Cryto! 6 September 2013
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15:21:11 <haless.cryto.net> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz
15:21:11 <haless.cryto.net> Users on #crytocc: loggy joepie91 iceTwy GHOSTnew dpk Asad d0wn_blog truetravesty twitchyl1quid64 norbert79 lysobit &MK_FG @SpaghettiCode tintin staticsafe terye Summerfag6532 landrone IR601 mama cayce Ishaq wh1t3r4bb1t &ebola
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15:21:38 <dpk> back on the air?
15:21:47 <dpk> welcome back :-)
15:23:11 <joepie91> yes
15:23:14 <joepie91> so
15:23:15 <tintin> joepie91: pm?
15:23:16 <joepie91> fixed haless
15:23:17 <joepie91> fixed loggy
15:23:19 <joepie91> fixed botpie
15:23:23 <joepie91> what else broke while I was away?
15:23:33 <joepie91> tintin: preferably just send me a PM instead of asking :)
15:23:38 <dpk> everything, joepie91
15:23:44 <dpk> EVERYTHING GOT BROKEN
15:23:49 <dpk> and it's up to you to fix it
15:24:01 <dpk> we're giving you this spanner and a hard hat
15:24:13 <dpk> and we expect it done in about 3–4 hours
15:27:35 <joepie91> lol
15:27:42 <joepie91> seriously though, anything that broke that I ovelooked?
15:30:53 <cayce> haless was the only thing I noticed
15:31:01 <cayce> because I timed out of it for 3 days before I realized
15:31:02 <cayce> lol
15:31:32 <joepie91> lol
15:31:50 <joepie91> I apparently overlooked an invoice
15:32:02 <joepie91> in my quick-before-holiday-invoice-payment-flurry
15:32:57 <cayce> :P
15:33:08 <cayce> It's cool, I was in school all week
15:33:14 <cayce> I probably didn't miss much
15:35:31 <joepie91> ah
15:36:57 <cayce> I read... 90 textbook pages wednesday alone
15:37:00 <cayce> >_>
15:37:05 <cayce> and another 45 before class thursday
15:37:06 <cayce> :D
15:38:25 <joepie91> I've been reading Cryptonomicon on holiday
15:38:29 <joepie91> done the first 250 pages or so
15:38:38 <joepie91> interesting book
15:39:03 <joepie91> pretty tough to read though
15:39:17 <cayce> that's the one assange wrote?
15:39:21 <cayce> back in the day
15:39:30 <cayce> or am I thinking of something else
15:40:16 * cayce searches mirror
15:40:35 <joepie91> no
15:40:37 <joepie91> neal stephenson
15:40:39 <joepie91> from memory
15:40:41 <cayce> ohhhh
15:40:46 <cayce> cyphernomicon
15:40:49 <cayce> haha
15:41:01 <joepie91> it's a 1200-or-so-page book about war and crypto
15:41:14 <joepie91> seemingly somewhere inbetween fiction, non-fiction novel, and educational
15:41:24 * cayce nods
15:41:26 <joepie91> with some very funky wordsmithing
15:41:32 <cayce> :D
15:43:01 <cayce> I finished pattern recognition last week
15:50:19 <joepie91> ?
16:01:45 <iceTwy> ohai joepie91!
16:04:12 <joepie91> ohai iceTwy
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16:10:02 <iceTwy> how was your time out, joepie91
16:10:10 <iceTwy> (no pun intended :P)
16:10:16 <joepie91> lol
16:10:17 <joepie91> quite nice
16:10:31 <joepie91> return back home was a bit less nice
16:10:31 <joepie91> spent the first hour putting out various fires
16:10:40 <joepie91> apparently I can't go away for a week without everything exploding
16:10:46 <joepie91> or rather, imploding
16:10:53 <joepie91> nice, area-contained clusterfucks
16:10:57 <joepie91> >.>
16:11:35 <iceTwy> hahaha
16:11:43 <iceTwy> looks like your house needs a safety revision
16:11:45 <iceTwy> check
16:11:53 <joepie91> metaphorical fires
16:12:12 <joepie91> broken servers, bots, unpaid invoices that I overlooked, missing transactions, etc.
16:12:17 <joepie91> also, jabber!
16:21:20 <joepie91> mmm
16:21:27 <joepie91> I think it's about time to learn crypto implementation
16:21:39 <joepie91> and/or crypto design
16:22:41 <joepie91> rather than just use
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16:34:16 <cayce> joepie91:) yes!
16:34:30 <cayce> joepie91:) also, pattern recognition is a book, and I like it
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16:34:50 <cayce> joepie91:) my nickname is not the main character of said book at all, noooo that isn't true
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17:43:20 <iceTwy> joepie91: jabber a bit later, sorry!
17:43:26 <iceTwy> I'm busy atm with some rather important stuff
17:48:33 <lysobit> joepie91: I swear, half of your server problems would be solved if you utilized /etc/rc.local!
17:48:49 <joepie91> lysobit: in fact, most of my server problems are due to missed invoices
17:48:50 <joepie91> well
17:48:57 <joepie91> that, and network breakage and unrealircd's shitty auto-relink
17:49:05 <joepie91> rc.local solves neither of those
17:49:10 <joepie91> that said
17:49:13 <joepie91> there may be a solution
17:49:14 <joepie91> I just realized
17:49:19 <lysobit> just going by how last time you had to restart services on wire reboot
17:49:26 <joepie91> yes, that's a one-off occurrency
17:49:29 <joepie91> occurrence *
17:49:29 <joepie91> :P
17:49:32 <lysobit> orly
17:49:35 <lysobit> ok
17:49:40 <lysobit> how was your holiday?
17:49:42 <joepie91> anyway, I recently started relinking leafs by doing ./unreal rehash on the hub
17:49:46 <joepie91> perhaps I should cron that
17:49:56 <joepie91> it's not documented anywhere, but it works
17:50:42 <lysobit> also, congratulations on going on holiday without logging into your internet stuff
17:51:04 <joepie91> not like I had much of a choice
17:51:11 <joepie91> was on an uninhabited island
17:51:21 <joepie91> only wifi there was was on the other side of the water
17:51:24 <joepie91> very sporadic and slow
17:51:32 <joepie91> and I only had my e-book reader
17:51:37 <joepie91> so I checked up on news once and that was it
17:51:50 <joepie91> we also only had one electricity point
17:51:53 <joepie91> so my portable charging pack came in handy
17:51:57 <joepie91> (for ereader)
17:52:12 <lysobit> how can it be uninhabited and have an electricity point?
17:52:42 <joepie91> there's a campsite on there
17:52:45 <joepie91> a tiny one
17:52:47 <joepie91> with a generator
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17:53:01 <joepie91> 'uninhabited' as in noone living there
17:53:03 <joepie91> permanently
17:53:07 <joepie91> detail may be lost in translation
17:53:22 <joepie91> 'onbewoond' is the Dutch word, which implies no permanent residents but doesn't exclude a campsite
17:53:22 <joepie91> :P
17:53:43 <joepie91> http://www.campspirit.nl/index.php?page=home-2
17:54:55 <joepie91> we were basically the only ones on the entire campsite
17:55:02 <joepie91> (it's after holiday season)
17:55:22 <joepie91> though the last day or two there were a few friends of the owners (?) camping there also
17:58:51 <lysobit> I guess I was expecting you to sleep in the woods whilst fending off attacks from wildlife
17:59:13 <lysobit> per uninhabited
17:59:36 <lysobit> :P
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18:25:37 <joepie91> http://anonnews.org/static/future
18:47:16 <x> <3
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18:50:24 <joepie91> mama:
18:50:31 <joepie91> http://anonnews.org/static/future
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19:24:30 <x> mama <33
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20:00:36 <FtpIt_Radi> hi
20:00:52 <FtpIt_Radi> joepie91?
20:05:31 <joepie91> FtpIt_Radi: hai
20:05:39 <FtpIt_Radi> how are you my friend
20:06:49 <cayce> dicks, mostly. You?
20:07:23 <FtpIt_Radi> same
20:07:35 <FtpIt_Radi> i got to ask you something
20:07:43 <FtpIt_Radi> as you are kinda a security expert
20:08:06 <joepie91> I'm not great, but alive
20:08:15 <joepie91> and well, not exactly a security -expert-, but fairly knowledgeable on the topic
20:08:17 <joepie91> but, ask away
20:08:24 <joepie91> (perhaps others in the channel will have some input on it also)
20:08:29 <cayce> Ha! I'm a security expert now. Damn, things are looking up!
20:08:33 <joepie91> also, I assume you know that this channel is publicly logged etc.?
20:08:45 <joepie91> (when loggy isn't disconnected for unclear reasons, that is :P)
20:08:50 <FtpIt_Radi> yeah i know
20:08:58 <FtpIt_Radi> it aint big stuff
20:09:10 <FtpIt_Radi> just : what you can say about zPanel
20:09:12 <FtpIt_Radi> the newest one
20:09:24 * joepie91 has a quick look
20:09:27 <cayce> isn't zpanel always broken?
20:09:42 <cayce> that's like the short version, but maybe they magically fixed it all?
20:09:43 <FtpIt_Radi> joepie proved it hackable
20:09:47 <FtpIt_Radi> but idk for the new version
20:09:48 <cayce> ye
20:10:24 <FtpIt_Radi> i am gonna use it for production
20:10:26 <FtpIt_Radi> temporarily
20:10:45 <cayce> scary :D
20:10:51 <joepie91> sigh
20:10:58 <joepie91> FtpIt_Radi: https://github.com/bobsta63/zpanelx/blob/master/dryden/ui/templateparser.class.php
20:11:03 <FtpIt_Radi> thats why i came to ask the bad boy
20:11:06 <joepie91> they seem to have duct-taped some restrictions around it
20:11:11 <joepie91> but it still uses eval
20:11:24 <joepie91> without seriously looking at the code, I'd wager that it still isn't secure
20:11:31 <FtpIt_Radi> crap
20:11:49 <FtpIt_Radi> kloxo fails to download, zpanel is stupid get-server-hacked code
20:11:54 <joepie91> consider webmin
20:11:57 <joepie91> or ispconfig
20:11:59 <joepie91> both are a bit clunky
20:12:00 <joepie91> but they work
20:12:02 <joepie91> and are reasonably secure
20:12:06 <FtpIt_Radi> sure
20:12:15 <FtpIt_Radi> it;s gonna be for cheap hosting
20:12:16 <joepie91> kloxo is also a giant pile of "my god why would you DO that"
20:12:30 <FtpIt_Radi> thats why i am not investing in cPanel
20:12:31 <joepie91> mm
20:12:39 <joepie91> directadmin might also be worth a look
20:12:41 <joepie91> DA licenses are cheap afaik
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20:15:04 <FtpIt_Radi> ok thanks
20:15:09 <FtpIt_Radi> i got to be going now, as its 11 PM
20:15:20 <FtpIt_Radi> probably ispconfig
20:16:31 <joepie91> alright
20:16:32 <joepie91> good luck :P
20:16:55 <FtpIt_Radi> thanks
20:16:56 <FtpIt_Radi> good night
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20:36:12 <Zoned> ftpit_radi.....
20:36:26 <Zoned> joepie91 you around?
20:40:18 <joepie91> Zoned: yes
20:40:30 <Zoned> xmpp?
20:42:58 <joepie91> sure
20:44:30 <lysobit> joepie91: internet.bs' web system is just horribly designed and coded, isn't it? it scares me.
20:45:06 <joepie91> haha
20:45:08 <joepie91> it's a mess, yeah
20:45:13 <joepie91> though, afaik they changed their interface
20:45:16 <joepie91> haven't used it yet
20:45:41 <lysobit> they had an XSS vulnerability in 2011 in their login page that someone tried to send a customer service rep to hijack my domain
20:45:45 <lysobit> which they haven't bothered fixing
20:45:53 <joepie91> that seems odd
20:45:56 <lysobit> hadn't* could be fixed now with their new interface
20:46:06 <joepie91> idk
20:46:14 <joepie91> not fixing vulns doesn't seem in line with the rest of their policies
20:46:37 <joepie91> heard of a few people unsuccessfully trying to social engineer customer support
20:47:36 <lysobit> I'm suprised considering how easy it is to do so with other registrars, and internet.bs seems particularly sloppy at least technically
20:47:49 <lysobit> https://internetbs.net/en/domain-name-registrations/controller.html?action=UserAccountAction&own=yes
20:48:00 <lysobit> just looking at the URL is a sign of sloppy coding with the "own=yes"
20:49:19 <joepie91> in what sense?
20:49:42 <joepie91> that would set a "needs further investigation" flag for me, but alarm bells aren't exactly ringing yet
20:50:07 <wh1t3r4bb1t> joepie91: could you help me with mod_rewrite?
20:50:19 <joepie91> that said, "log in with $social_network" is a TERRIBLE idea for a registrar
20:50:26 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: for what httpd?
20:50:41 <lysobit> I'm probably nitpicking but I'd feel safer if it say "own=1" or "own=true" rather than "own=yes" so the at least the programmer understands the concept of datatypes :P
20:51:34 <joepie91> lysobit: honestly, in HTTP form data it's all just strings anyway
20:51:40 <wh1t3r4bb1t> yes for httpd the .htaccess file
20:51:45 <joepie91> it doesn't exactly matter much
20:51:52 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: that is not an answer to the question I asked
20:51:54 <joepie91> read the question again
20:52:21 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: and assume correct punctuation in my question
20:52:47 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Ohh... for apache2
20:53:28 <joepie91> right
20:53:33 <joepie91> I can only help with generic regex thing
20:53:37 <joepie91> I don't really speak apache config
20:53:51 <joepie91> but mod_rewrite uses regex
20:53:55 <joepie91> so depending on your question I might have an answer
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20:54:41 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Well, I'm trying to get all /directories to be evaluated by /index.php
20:54:59 <wh1t3r4bb1t> So I can write a router
20:55:16 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t; then avoid regex entirely
20:55:19 <joepie91> and just use FallbackResource
20:55:39 <joepie91> if your version of apache doesn't support FallbackResource, upgrade your apache because it's antique
20:55:55 <joepie91> er, then avoid mod_rewrite entirely*
20:56:11 <joepie91> FallbackResource /router.php
20:56:19 <joepie91> will route all requests for non-existent URLs to /router.php
20:56:28 <joepie91> you'll want to send it to something that is not /index.php because of a bug in apache
20:56:42 <joepie91> in index.php, just require("router.php"); or whatever
20:57:37 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Hmm ok brb, researching
20:58:34 <joepie91> bonus: much lighter than mod_rewrite, resource-wise
21:02:06 <wh1t3r4bb1t> No article tells how he get the value of the resource the user is trying to access! i.e.; /rabbit how do I evaluate "rabbit"?
21:03:47 <lysobit> A few years ago I accidently prevented a site I owned from getting owned post-hack by using mod_rewrite instead of fallbackresource
21:04:09 <lysobit> the attacker was confused as to why he couldn't access his uploaded shell via the httpd that he uploaded via FTP
21:04:58 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: it's in a PHP $_SERVER var
21:05:11 <joepie91> forgot which one
21:05:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t> The apache doc is like reading about apples like this; apples are different colors. apples are food. apples are not oranges. Fuck the apache doc! Without lube
21:06:43 <lysobit> Why use Apache anyway? Is there a reason not to use the lighter nginx/lighttpd these days for typical websites?
21:09:09 <wh1t3r4bb1t> This is not a typical website
21:09:40 <lysobit> That sounds interesting. What kind of website is it?
21:10:13 <wh1t3r4bb1t> It is 100% dynamic social engine to replace the WP/BP combo horror.
21:10:28 <lysobit> oh right
21:10:45 * joepie91 vaguely recalls having advised against using WP in the past
21:10:57 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: still sounds like a typical website
21:11:04 <lysobit> :P
21:12:12 <lysobit> btw wordpress.com actually switched from Apache to nginx a while back and it improved performance tremendously iirc
21:12:17 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I'm writing it to be scalable also. Yes, joepie91, you did and I agree that WP sucks for use with anything aside from easy content editing for laymen.
21:12:47 <joepie91> lysobit: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/nginx/
21:12:49 <joepie91> delivered
21:13:12 <lysobit> :)
21:13:57 <joepie91> cc wh1t3r4bb1t
21:14:09 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: Apache is the opposite of scalable; nginx was designed because Apache was unscalable
21:14:28 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I might end up using lighttpd but it also needs to run on apache because that is what most people who know nothing of their server run and that's what most hosting providers run by default.
21:15:25 <x> joepie91 hope I didn't upset you earlier?
21:15:33 <x> I was just foolin around
21:16:23 <joepie91> x: huh, how would you have upset me?
21:16:41 <x> about the site being gray
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21:16:55 <x> it is easy on the eyes
21:16:55 <lysobit> mm yeah, most shared hosting providers using Apache... though these days VPSes seem to have dwarfed shared hosting for small site hosting
21:17:00 <joepie91> oh
21:17:05 <joepie91> wait
21:17:06 <joepie91> confused
21:17:12 <joepie91> x: did you say that under another nick?
21:17:17 <x> yus
21:17:30 <x> as CharlieWong
21:18:08 <joepie91> ahh
21:18:09 <joepie91> I see
21:18:13 <x> :3
21:18:23 <joepie91> anything said by such a nick is automatically classified as "not assuming to be serious"
21:18:23 <joepie91> :)
21:18:28 <joepie91> for obvious reasons
21:18:42 <x> alright
21:18:44 <x> <3
21:18:45 <Zoned> It's fair to say I lost all faith in humanity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6ffRfhWp4
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21:18:52 <joepie91> welcome back, wh1t3r4bb1t
21:18:55 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
21:18:55 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-09-06#T21-18-55
21:19:03 <joepie91> you might have missed some stuff
21:19:21 <wh1t3r4bb1t> storm just knocked out the satellite temporarily. may happen again.
21:19:49 <joepie91> well, that's what logs are for :)
21:20:42 <x> that and for keeping ppl from lying :D
21:21:03 <joepie91> perhaps
21:21:47 <x> but yus, good to see you're productive as always
21:21:50 <x> <3
21:25:46 <wh1t3r4bb1t> so here is my mod rewrite...
21:25:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
21:25:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> RewriteEngine On
21:25:52 <wh1t3r4bb1t> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
21:25:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
21:25:55 <wh1t3r4bb1t> RewriteRule ^/(\w+)/?$ /?username=$1
21:25:57 <wh1t3r4bb1t> RewriteRule ^/post/(\w+)/?$ /?post_id=$1
21:25:59 <wh1t3r4bb1t> </IfModule>
21:26:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Needless to say it it's not working.
21:27:03 <joepie91> use FallbackResource
21:27:07 <joepie91> :P
21:28:20 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I want to but there is no doc on getting the resource requested. Looks like maybe I should do something else today like hurl midgets down a hill screaming fuck you apache
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21:28:50 <mama> x <333
21:29:00 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I already explained it to you
21:29:05 <joepie91> it's in a $_SERVER var
21:29:11 <joepie91> you could also just look at the CPHP code
21:29:13 <joepie91> which does all of this
21:29:35 <joepie91> https://github.com/joepie91/cphp/blob/develop/components/component.router.php
21:29:52 <joepie91> add FallbackResource /router.php or whatever to your config
21:30:00 <joepie91> read out REQUEST_URI in router.php
21:30:03 <joepie91> that is all the documentation you need
21:38:18 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Well FallbackResource isn't doing anything. Well it
21:38:31 <wh1t3r4bb1t> 's 404ing like it was before
21:39:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t> When shit that is supposed to work as advertised doesn't I get a little bit pissed off.
21:40:33 <wh1t3r4bb1t> <Directory />
21:40:33 <wh1t3r4bb1t> FallbackResource /index.php
21:40:33 <wh1t3r4bb1t> </Directory>
21:41:17 <wh1t3r4bb1t> wtf am I doing wrong because obviously i'm doing it completely wrong
21:41:32 <wh1t3r4bb1t> or it would work
21:46:07 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: as I said
21:46:10 <joepie91> do not do /index.php
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21:46:20 <joepie91> do something else and require that 'something else' from index.php
21:46:21 <joepie91> because apache bug
21:47:45 <mama> ebola: :)
21:47:55 <mama> Hi joepie91 :)
21:52:20 <Zoned> joepie91 if you got a few mins of freetime, mind checking xmpp?
21:53:09 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Nope, still 404ing.
21:58:45 <lysobit> does router.php exist at domain.com/router.php or domain.com/a/b/c/router.php?
21:59:00 <lysobit> iirc / is relative to the domain
21:59:08 <lysobit> but haven't used Apache for 4 years
21:59:28 <joepie91> /router.php is relative to docroot
21:59:35 <joepie91> when used for FallbackResource
21:59:53 <lysobit> oh right
22:00:01 <lysobit> then does docroot/router.php exist?
22:00:22 <lysobit> anyway [22:30:04] <joepie91> that is all the documentation you need
22:00:22 <lysobit> [22:56:22] * Disconnected
22:00:27 <joepie91> also, wh1t3r4bb1t, you'll want to check your error log
22:00:29 <lysobit> so may have missed something
22:00:32 <joepie91> lysobit: hmm?
22:00:33 <joepie91> oh
22:00:35 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
22:00:35 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-09-06#T22-00-35
22:00:37 <joepie91> lysobit ^
22:00:51 <lysobit> right
22:00:56 <lysobit> how does it take 30 minutes to ping out
22:01:12 <lysobit> znc is screwed
22:01:35 <lysobit> you have to do a clean disconnect for it to log messages
22:08:30 <x> mama: <333333
22:08:39 <x> sorry delay3d reaction
22:08:56 <mama> how are you x?
22:09:05 <mama> np
22:09:20 <x> been better lol but things are moving right along here
22:09:47 <mama> good :)
22:09:54 <x> you?
22:10:46 <wh1t3r4bb1t> ONly error in the log is the 404 error. so fuck apache, fuck mod_rewrite and fuck FallbackResource. They all fail.
22:11:05 <mama> I am good, not very active in IRC, more irl work :s
22:11:20 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: pastebin/zerobin your apache config
22:11:24 <joepie91> you can PM if you want
22:12:25 <x> I know the feeling mama :)
22:12:37 <mama> :D
22:12:42 * x has been toolin around with some IC's again
22:12:44 <x> :3
22:13:08 <mama> haha :3
22:14:11 <x> I'll share some stuffs when I got a working proto
22:14:35 <mama> wow thanks! <3
22:14:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> MAybe in a little bit joepie91. Right now I'mm gonna go eat. This bullshit is pissing me off. Stupid fucking shit apache doc sucks wooden dicks. brb
22:15:30 <x> sorry it's been rather slow with any dev but I think you'll be pleased
22:15:53 <mama> i am sure x :D
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22:16:29 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: what is the 404 error?
22:16:35 <lysobit> that index.php cannot be found?
22:16:47 <lysobit> or that /<anything inserted here> cannot be found?
22:17:31 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I am about to go sleep
22:17:45 <joepie91> lysobit: apache is very unhelpful when either fallbackresource or mod rewrite rules fail
22:17:58 <joepie91> it will just give you HTTP errors for the requested URL without any elaboration as to where/why exactly it failed
22:18:48 <lysobit> still think the most likely plausible explanation is that index.php isn't correctly referenced in htaccess
22:19:23 <lysobit> I mean, I don't see what else it could possibly be
22:19:47 <Macbeth> Maybe the NSA finally broke the internet, and it killed itself
22:20:06 <Macbeth> If I was the internet, I would have either killed the NSA by now, or killed myself
22:20:30 <lysobit> If I was the internet, I would kill myself anyway
22:20:49 <Macbeth> HA HA
22:21:02 <Macbeth> The interwebz is porn hidden by news
22:23:12 <lysobit> porn on the interweb is hardly hidden
22:23:53 <lysobit> well, unless you're into cheese pizza.
22:24:17 <Macbeth> LOL!!
22:24:35 <Macbeth> Google search "Moby Dick Hard Cover"
22:24:40 <Macbeth> :P
22:24:49 <wh1t3r4bb1t> the 404 is that the /username url cannot be found
22:25:41 <wh1t3r4bb1t> It's not even acting like it knows FallbackResouce exists
22:26:21 <wh1t3r4bb1t> im using .htaccess still because shared users will not have access to the httpd.conf file
22:26:24 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: try breaking something.
22:26:40 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: put random crap in htaccess to break the syntax and see if the htaccess is actually being read
22:26:55 <lysobit> if you get a 500 internal server error: success.
22:27:10 <wh1t3r4bb1t> good idea
22:27:13 <wh1t3r4bb1t> brb
22:28:55 <wh1t3r4bb1t> ok not breaking... wrote "fuck apache in the butthole" at the eof and it liked it i guess
22:29:19 <wh1t3r4bb1t> that was in .htaccess
22:29:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t> so aparently i need to enable .htaccess reading?
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22:32:32 <lysobit> Check the AllowOverride parameter in the <dictory> tag in your Apache config
22:32:49 <lysobit> If its set to None, Apache won't read htaccess
22:33:03 Macbeth has parted #crytocc (The NSA finally got me...)
22:33:36 <lysobit> "
22:33:36 <lysobit> Shit, it worked!
22:33:36 <lysobit> Shit, it failed!
22:33:36 <lysobit> Yay, it worked!
22:33:36 <lysobit> Yay, it failed!
22:33:36 <lysobit> "
22:33:57 <lysobit> these are the 4 cases when debugged :)
22:34:01 <lysobit> debugging*
22:39:58 <joepie91> lysobit: you're missing one
22:40:07 <joepie91> "Err... it worked, but I have no idea why"
22:40:17 <joepie91> :)
22:40:19 <lysobit> That's "Shit, it worked!"
22:40:26 <joepie91> not necessarily
22:40:27 <joepie91> working is a good thing
22:40:32 <joepie91> not knowing why is a bad thing
22:40:32 <joepie91> :p
22:40:37 <lysobit> It's when you spend an hour writing some complex function, and you're suspicious when it works the first time
22:40:49 <lysobit> without errors
22:40:59 <joepie91> haha
22:41:01 <lysobit> that is BAD
22:41:03 <joepie91> yes, I recognize that
22:41:10 <joepie91> "okay, so where's the bug hiding?"
22:42:14 <lysobit> www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1lpuvu/it_people_will_understand/
22:44:30 <lysobit> basically this http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCh-v51CAAA9HuT.jpg:large
22:48:39 <joepie91> lysobit: the developer tools bug thing is nasty
22:48:45 <joepie91> I've had that a few times
22:48:50 <joepie91> bugs vanishing the moment you opened dev tools
22:49:02 <joepie91> was usually because a resize event somewhere made the bug go away
22:49:03 <joepie91> lol
22:49:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t> ok I researched into not reading the .htassecc file and made changes as advised on stackoverflow and restarted apache and still not breaking with my deliberate attempt to break it in .htaccess. MFW I want to kill apache right now.
22:50:10 <wh1t3r4bb1t> .htaccess*
22:54:04 <joepie91> that looks like a case of "Shit, it worked!"
22:56:37 <lysobit> Is AllowOverride set to All?
22:58:57 <lysobit> this is awesome, instagram for code: http://instacod.es/
22:59:26 <wh1t3r4bb1t> AllowOverride IS set to all. Fuck.
23:00:16 <lysobit> This is deep. http://instacod.es/64632
23:00:46 <lysobit> wh1t3r4bb1t: in the right <directory> tag?
23:03:52 <joepie91> Code uploader requires a WebGL-compatible browser\
23:03:53 <joepie91> I don't even what
23:04:30 <lysobit> Chrome should be WebGL-compatible
23:04:47 <joepie91> lysobit: my driver is blacklisted
23:04:48 <lysobit> I'm using FireFox and it works, though
23:04:49 <joepie91> in chrome
23:04:54 <joepie91> (and for good reason)
23:05:03 <joepie91> (nouveau)
23:05:19 <joepie91> I tried running chrome with ignoring of blacklists turned on
23:05:22 <joepie91> half the pages didn't render
23:05:25 <joepie91> or didn't render properly
23:05:26 <lysobit> lol
23:05:34 <joepie91> and webgl stuff didn't actually work
23:05:36 <joepie91> so, yeah
23:05:36 <joepie91> :P
23:05:50 <lysobit> Sucks to be you and missing out on all the FUN
23:06:03 <lysobit> and GPU-rendered WEB PAGES
23:08:15 <lysobit> but yeah, it uses WebGL because the code is rendered in the 3D
23:08:28 <lysobit> hence you can rotate it etc
23:16:54 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Wow still not breaking after double checking that the <Directory > was correct path.
23:17:46 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I'm ready to give up and say Fuck mac os x mountain lion server too.
23:23:47 <lysobit> YOLO!!!
23:24:09 <lysobit> YOLO config
23:24:11 <lysobit> YOLO httpd
23:49:54 <lysobit> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23869955
23:50:03 <lysobit> In Manchester, around 40% of the push buttons don't need to be pressed during busy pedestrian times. "This is made up of those pedestrian green men that are 'walk-with-traffic', and those set remotely on a timer from our central computer,"
23:50:13 <lysobit> That sounds... dangerous. Fire sale anyone?
23:50:58 <lysobit> I can't imagine traffic lights being connected to the internet/a network
23:56:34 <lysobit> http://yolophp.com/