Cryto! 11 April 2013
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01:22:23 <crytocc100> joepie?
01:23:26 <joepie91> hmm?
01:24:27 <crytocc100> its me (c----s)
01:24:44 <crytocc100> finally found your damn irc channel lol
01:25:17 <joepie91> it's not that hard to find :P
01:25:30 * joepie91 points at PM tab at top of the page
01:27:40 <joepie91> crytocc100: also, for the sake of completeness: be aware that this channel (not the rest of the network and not PMs, just this channel) is publicly logged
01:27:45 <joepie91> see topic :P
01:28:46 <crytocc100> lol ok
01:39:50 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: are you awake?
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01:47:22 <crytocc-c> joepie
01:47:46 <DrWhat> Oh joepie :)_
01:47:51 * DrWhat flutters wings
01:48:06 * crytocc-c whipsers to joepie
01:49:01 <DrWhat> [on] Pie Pie I love Chicken a muchrom pie :D
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02:01:26 <crytocc-c> lol
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04:12:14 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91: yes
04:16:21 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91: Im going to be shutting down and recreating the research server soon
04:22:56 <joepie91> backup stuffs
04:22:59 <joepie91> also
04:22:59 <joepie91> pm
04:23:08 <twitchyliquid64> there is nothing to backup
04:23:15 <twitchyliquid64> all projects are stored locally
04:23:17 <twitchyliquid64> on my netowrk
04:23:23 <twitchyliquid64> and the MIRRORED on research
04:23:24 <twitchyliquid64> site
04:23:28 <joepie91> mmk
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04:34:31 <lady-3jane> you never did put my css in
04:34:34 * lady-3jane cries
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04:35:34 <twitchyliquid64> lady-3jane: I still have it
04:35:36 <twitchyliquid64> Im sorry :(
04:35:49 <lady-3jane> It's still on my server somewhere
04:35:49 <lady-3jane> haha
04:36:03 <lady-3jane> yes! https://mirror.explodie.org/crytoresearch.css
04:36:08 <lady-3jane> >:D
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04:44:42 <twitchyliquid64> I will now go offline while I rebuild my server and setup my blog
04:44:48 <twitchyliquid64> goodbye for a bit.
04:44:53 <twitchyliquid64> lady-3jane: I still love you.
04:44:57 <twitchyliquid64> :D
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04:45:09 <lady-3jane> :D <3
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05:16:35 <twitchyliquid64> hai
05:16:38 <twitchyliquid64> servers back
05:16:43 <twitchyliquid64> with a blog engine on it now
05:20:21 <lady-3jane> haha globlog
05:20:23 <lady-3jane> goblog
05:21:33 <twitchyliquid64> I still need to make some modifications
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06:21:36 <devslashrnd> .bitcoin
06:21:37 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $179.62, 1 BTC = €137.00
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07:10:18 <ElectRo`> .bitcoin
07:10:19 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $180.29, 1 BTC = €137.77
07:10:33 <ElectRo`> hmmmm
07:15:05 <ElectRo`> i need to smell RL
07:15:20 <ElectRo`> bitcoin has been a problem lately
07:17:25 <devslashrnd> for me it looks like an opportunity
07:32:28 <ElectRo`> ive already made a decent amount from the ddos swings
07:32:41 <ElectRo`> pro ddos Dx
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07:55:18 <devslashrnd> .bitcoin
07:55:19 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $182.30, 1 BTC = €139.74
07:56:52 <MK_FG> So mob loan turned out to be not such a great idea after all...
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08:02:13 <devslashrnd> dunno, howlong does it take before they begin to break ur bones? maybe the world looks brighter tomorrow or so
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08:03:30 <MK_FG> Yeah, world is always brighter if you have no bones!
08:04:39 <devslashrnd> its brighter after the pain began to fade
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08:15:18 <burn0ut> hi
08:15:21 <burn0ut> joepie91:
08:15:24 <burn0ut> u here?=
08:15:55 <DrAway> he alseep
08:15:59 <DrAway> afiak
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08:16:07 <burn0ut> hrm
08:16:09 <burn0ut> cryto serv
08:16:12 <burn0ut> is displayin logs
08:16:15 <burn0ut> from this chan
08:16:19 <burn0ut> open to the interwebz
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08:16:30 <DrWhat> Im pretty sure thats true
08:16:34 <DrWhat> yeah thats true
08:16:36 <DrWhat> !topic
08:16:42 <DrWhat> !topic #crytocc
08:16:54 <burn0ut> i know its true
08:16:55 <burn0ut> i see the logs
08:16:57 <burn0ut> in front of me
08:17:00 <burn0ut> for the last weeks
08:17:07 <burn0ut> not sure its supposed to be like that
08:17:11 <DrWhat> 14Topic is: 'Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: http://wonderfl.net/about/ | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz05'
08:17:23 <burn0ut> oll
08:17:24 <burn0ut> omfg
08:17:26 <burn0ut> wayne than
08:17:29 <burn0ut> just was confused
08:17:32 <DrWhat> ready the topic like we always say when you join
08:17:38 <burn0ut> dude
08:17:43 <burn0ut> im inactive since >half ayear
08:17:50 <burn0ut> i just randomly spotted dat
08:18:03 <burn0ut> i could gief a fuck but thought betta hit in and check if its right
08:19:21 <burn0ut> whatever. cyas
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08:33:05 <DrWhat> Well you do geif a fuck obvious your soo steamed up about it.
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10:40:13 <devslashrnd> .bitcoin
10:40:14 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $150.49, 1 BTC = €118.04
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13:11:24 <devslashrnd> .bitcoin
13:11:25 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $144.00, 1 BTC = €108.42
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13:56:04 <joepie91> bitcoin economics: http://owely.com/7DcTLU
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14:03:34 <DrAway> Joe
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14:03:51 <DrWhat> What would you say the best to seup a VPN with
14:04:02 <DrWhat> I was looking into routeros
14:15:57 <MK_FG> openvpn
14:16:57 <In> ^that
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14:18:17 <MK_FG> With udp only
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14:26:09 <DrWhat> I cant get openvpn working
14:26:13 <DrWhat> I triy it
14:26:20 <DrWhat> it wante dme to paid for a vpn service....
14:26:34 <DrWhat> I couldnt find the server download
14:27:26 <MK_FG> DrWhat, http://swupdate.openvpn.net/community/releases/
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14:46:01 <DrWhat> seeming that security kiss accept bitcoin :)
14:46:07 <DrWhat> Imma buy a vpn
14:46:15 <DrWhat> 1 year for less then 1 btc :D
14:46:18 <DrWhat> Utimate
14:46:21 <DrWhat> SEXY
14:47:50 <DrWhat> Confirm order and pay
14:47:50 <DrWhat> You are ordering SecurityKISS Tunnel
14:47:50 <DrWhat> package EMERALD
14:47:50 <DrWhat> with limit Unlimited per month
14:47:50 <DrWhat> and price 89.90 EUR (0.64 BTC)
14:47:50 <DrWhat> for 1 Year
14:47:50 <DrWhat> for Client ID: client02268397
14:47:51 <DrWhat> :d
14:47:54 <DrWhat> :d
14:47:55 <DrWhat> :d
14:47:57 <DrWhat> :D
14:48:30 <zxcvbnm> I used to have 1 BTC :(
14:49:22 <DrWhat> I have 5 :0
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14:49:32 <DrWhat> IMMA BUY BU Y BUY
14:50:18 <zxcvbnm> I'll buy if it drops below $50
14:51:42 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
14:51:43 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $120.00, 1 BTC = €92.00
14:51:49 <DrWhat> damn it going down
14:54:00 <DrWhat> gotta sync my client
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14:55:26 <DrWhat> I never really had a use for my bitcoins untill now :)
14:55:35 <DrWhat> Now its worth it :d
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15:03:41 <ryan> zxcvbnm: there's been lots of trades at 70
15:05:10 <zxcvbnm> ryan: do you trade ? I would probably use mtgox if I had to pick one just cause they *seem* the most professional
15:05:17 <zxcvbnm> ryan: even tho they got owned last year
15:06:12 <joepie91> "seem" is the operative word in that sentence
15:06:25 <joepie91> :P
15:06:36 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
15:06:37 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $120.00, 1 BTC = €92.00
15:06:44 <DrWhat> Jo
15:06:45 <DrWhat> e
15:06:46 <DrWhat> pi
15:06:47 <DrWhat> e
15:06:48 <zxcvbnm> aye, that's I was insinuating
15:06:49 <DrWhat> 91
15:07:08 <DrWhat> 1 year vps for 0.8 btc :D
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15:07:12 <DrWhat> 1gb ram
15:07:24 <DrWhat> 500 gn bandwidth
15:08:28 <zxcvbnm> Any other bitcoin trading platforms recommended
15:09:20 <joepie91> DrWhat: that's really not that cheap...
15:09:25 <joepie91> $8 a month at current rate
15:09:35 <joepie91> sure, it's not expensive, but it's not terribly cheap either
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15:09:50 <joepie91> unless it's KVM or XEN-HVM in which case it IS cheap
15:09:51 <DrWhat> Would you buy a "cheap" vps
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15:10:26 <DrWhat> you know what happened last time
15:11:02 <joepie91> DrWhat: I have quite a few cheap VPSes
15:11:10 <joepie91> cheap doesn't really matter when you're looking at quality
15:11:13 <joepie91> have a look at the hosts instead
15:11:24 <joepie91> anyway, zxcvbnm, I typically trade in person
15:11:27 <joepie91> and don't really use exchanges
15:11:32 <joepie91> so I can't really recommend any one exchange
15:11:39 <zxcvbnm> Hm.
15:12:05 <zxcvbnm> Well that wouldn't be very effective for buying at the right price
15:12:16 <zxcvbnm> At least, not right now, given the volatility
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15:13:40 <joepie91> I don't use Bitcoin as an investment :)
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15:13:59 <zxcvbnm> I haven't yet to this point, considering it, if the price gets right
15:14:14 <zxcvbnm> Swinging +/- 200% is pretty wild.
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15:18:01 <ElectRo`> jesus trading halted and no fees for 48 hrs when trading starts
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15:25:13 <joepie91> ElectRo`: lol really?
15:25:21 <joepie91> that explains why charts are so quiet and trading lag is 4 seconds
15:25:29 <joepie91> I was wondering about that
15:27:00 <ElectRo`> ~100 should be the fair corrected price
15:27:25 <ElectRo`> high double digits on other exchanges
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15:44:15 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) :D So I'm not the only one who noticed that wobble
15:46:46 <devslashrnd> .bitcoin
15:46:47 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $120.00, 1 BTC = €92.00
15:46:54 <devslashrnd> frozen
15:47:52 <lady-3jane> yes
15:47:57 <lady-3jane> mtgox froze it
15:48:39 <lady-3jane> I only read the first page of comments on the forums but it was either "wow, someone finally did something" or "dude this is not good"
15:49:04 <joepie91> the one missing comment: "LOLOLOL THIS REALLY DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE BITCOIN IS DECENTRALIZED AND TRADING CONTINUE ELSEWHERE"
15:49:09 <joepie91> which it is basically doing
15:50:12 <lady-3jane> it'll be a great excuse to try out all the other wonderful exchanges
15:50:39 <joepie91> exactly
15:50:51 <ryan> accidentally mtgox
15:51:03 <lady-3jane> I dunno what others to use, but eh
15:51:09 <ryan> they gave up after pretty much all of their ips got nulled
15:51:17 <lady-3jane> probably just make an account on coinbase
15:51:18 <ryan> o why is bitstamp down
15:51:53 <lady-3jane> I'm waiting for coinbase to get their whole us-accounts thing set up
15:52:05 <lady-3jane> that'll be nice
15:52:18 <joepie91> ryan: "but it wasn't ddos, we were just so successful that we went down!"
15:52:37 <ryan> yeah
15:52:43 <lady-3jane> it horrifies me that it could be true
15:53:00 <lady-3jane> if, this far in, he has so little hardware that that is possible?
15:53:02 <lady-3jane> holy fuck
15:53:04 <lady-3jane> like
15:53:06 <lady-3jane> yeah no
15:53:12 <joepie91> lady-3jane: that being true would require a quite twisted definition of "success"
15:53:41 <joepie91> if you want to call half the bitcoin userbase panic-selling their BTC on your exchange because you have the largest trading volume a "success"
15:53:42 <ryan> mtgox is on one server
15:53:42 <joepie91> then sure
15:54:12 <lady-3jane> I think mtgox could be one server, but shouldn't be
15:54:19 <lady-3jane> but mostly his code is made of lies and bullshit
15:54:31 <lady-3jane> any decent quadcore should be able to run this shit
15:54:42 <lady-3jane> 64g of ram or so
15:54:44 <lady-3jane> you'd be fine
15:55:11 <ryan> I think Tibanne has all of their stuff on one server
15:55:18 <lady-3jane> I wish I didn't hate coding
15:55:21 <ryan> because coincidentally, when mtgox gets packeted all of their other stuff dies
15:55:29 <lady-3jane> I'd just write a faster exchange or something
15:55:33 <lady-3jane> and open source the bitch on github
15:55:56 <lady-3jane> here, you want real distributed system? free sourcecode for an exchange
15:56:16 <lady-3jane> write modules for all the financial system connections
15:56:18 <lady-3jane> heh
15:56:22 <ryan> Nobody wants to support their competition
15:56:31 <lady-3jane> I do
15:56:53 <devslashrnd> when i remember right, some us trading-guru, forgot the name, said yesterday he will also start another exchange
15:57:12 <lady-3jane> If an exchange source was released, and it was decent, it'd give anyone who wanted to do it a solid base. differentiation would be massive and swift and great for the ecosystem
15:57:48 <lady-3jane> also, I'm not a capitalist
15:57:53 <lady-3jane> perhaps you've figured that out by now
15:57:54 <lady-3jane> :P
15:58:10 <ryan> I wonder
15:58:13 <ryan> what would happen
15:58:19 <ryan> if most of btc network speed disappeared
15:58:19 <lady-3jane> dicks, mostly
15:58:32 <lady-3jane> difficulty would still be high until it readjusted
15:59:02 <lady-3jane> that would be interesting though
15:59:06 <lady-3jane> that would be a real panic
15:59:07 <lady-3jane> :D
15:59:16 <ryan> well then
15:59:18 <ryan> lets do that
15:59:20 <lady-3jane> not a "I'm a pussy because I'm trying to day trade a virtual currency"
15:59:23 <lady-3jane> panic
16:00:03 <lady-3jane> man
16:00:13 <lady-3jane> every time the trading price goes way above my graph, it crashes
16:00:16 <lady-3jane> I like this graph
16:00:29 <lady-3jane> http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90ztgSzbgEzm1g10za2gWMAzm2g25zvzps
16:01:28 <zxcvbnm> I was under the impression that almost all bitcoins have been mined, is this false?
16:01:44 <joepie91> that is most certainly false..
16:01:47 <lady-3jane> ^
16:01:54 <lady-3jane> only half?
16:02:13 <joepie91> something like that
16:02:27 <lady-3jane> at the next reward halfing, we'll be at like 75% of total to be ever made
16:02:33 <lady-3jane> so after that it's a trickle of new ones
16:02:42 <devslashrnd> but the other half will last to 2140 or so
16:02:45 <ryan> I guess hashrate is gonna collapse
16:02:50 <lady-3jane> yeah, with a really long tail
16:02:55 <zxcvbnm> Am I correct that it is taking exponentially longer to mine though?
16:02:55 <lady-3jane> really!
16:03:03 <lady-3jane> now?
16:03:13 <lady-3jane> no
16:03:14 <ryan> soonish
16:03:15 <joepie91> lady-3jane: there's already an open-source exchange platform
16:03:18 <lady-3jane> it still takes 5-10m
16:03:23 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) whar
16:03:33 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: over time, every X blocks, the block reward is halved
16:03:42 <joepie91> it's a somewhat exponential thing
16:03:50 <joepie91> if you look at rate of BTC/time
16:03:51 <lady-3jane> inverse exponential
16:03:57 <lady-3jane> half every 4 years
16:04:08 <lady-3jane> approaches zero :D
16:04:09 <zxcvbnm> Oh, interesting
16:04:11 <joepie91> lady-3jane: https://github.com/dooglus/intersango
16:04:18 <lady-3jane> they opensourced/
16:04:20 <lady-3jane> ha!
16:04:30 <lady-3jane> intersango was oooooold
16:05:03 <joepie91> there's also the leaked bitcoinica source code: http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/talk-bitcoin/bitcoinica-source-code-available/
16:05:32 <joepie91> but it's kinda insecure
16:05:33 <joepie91> lol
16:05:39 <lady-3jane> oooh
16:05:42 <lady-3jane> asian beauties on the download page
16:05:46 * lady-3jane laughs
16:06:11 <lady-3jane> Y U FLARE HER HAIR AND COVER HER LEGS
16:06:19 <lady-3jane> THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
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16:16:13 <ElectRo`> ahhh bitcoinica
16:16:30 <ElectRo`> 17 yr old in it for the money
16:21:48 <crytocc-c> .bitcoin
16:21:49 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $120.00, 1 BTC = €92.00
16:22:46 <ElectRo`> seems to be floating 75-100 across all xchanges
16:23:17 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:00:50 <MK_FG> So the crazy fellow on the street was right? It is THE END?
17:05:26 <devslashrnd> global financial crisis, in 20 years we will say "do u remember bitcoin thursday? the day armageddon began? what have u done that day?"
17:06:22 <devslashrnd> we should all do something interresting today, just in case
17:10:06 <joepie91> An even more fundamental problem with bitcoins, and indeed any private currency, is that there is no way to limit its supply. True, bitcoins cannot be manufactured beyond the limits set by Nakamoto. But there is no way to prevent future Nakamotos from creating bitcoin substitutes - say, bytecoin, or botcoin. If merchants are willing to accept bitcoins, they will be willing to accept the substitutes, especially
17:10:06 <joepie91> as bitcoins become scarce and consumers scramble for substitutes. Nakamoto must have realized this because there are not enough bitcoins to substitute for the currencies around the world.
17:10:09 <joepie91> The currency can only succeed if it is expanded or supplemented. But if there are no constraints on substitute digital currencies - and there aren't - then the value of bitcoins will plummet as the subs begin to circulate. And once it becomes clear that there is no limit, people will realize that their holdings could become worthless at any moment, and demand for bitcoins and the other currencies will collapse, ending the experiment.
17:10:14 <joepie91> congratulations Slate
17:10:30 <joepie91> you just earned the title for "most outrageously incorrect and unfounded claim about Bitcoin that I have seen"
17:11:13 <joepie91> apparently he can see in the future or something
17:13:00 <MK_FG> What a stoooo-o-o-ooopid people there are, buying anything with "coin" in it's name for dollars with no way in hell to spend or exchange it back!
17:13:32 <MK_FG> And this brilliant journalist has seen through this obscure phenomenon and brought us TEH TRUTH!
17:13:44 <MK_FG> I say we shoot it
17:14:21 <joepie91> infuckingcredible
17:14:42 <joepie91> I'm having issues finding words to describe the stupidity of whoever wrote this
17:14:46 <MK_FG> Why are you wasting your time reading such crap, anyway? ;)
17:14:50 <joepie91> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2013/04/bitcoin_is_a_ponzi_scheme_the_internet_currency_will_collapse.html
17:14:51 <devslashrnd> source? wanna rage as well
17:16:48 <devslashrnd> u need a lot of "ponzi" in it to scare the people as hell
17:18:19 <MK_FG> Looking at how you all are baited to that, I think it's actually clever article
17:18:39 <MK_FG> Trolling the whole internet Slate-style ;)
17:18:59 <MK_FG> If it gets the ad views and visitors and links, hey, why the hell not ;)
17:19:33 <devslashrnd> are there people out there without adblocker?
17:20:02 <MK_FG> Why'd that Slate thing exist otherwise?
17:20:27 <MK_FG> Maybe it's a ponzi scamming ad-buyers though...
17:20:36 <devslashrnd> i accidently saw the webz with ads few days ago, my eyes still bleedin
17:20:38 <MK_FG> ponzi ponzi ponzi
17:20:56 <MK_FG> Hehe
17:21:07 <MK_FG> Yeah, it's tough out there
17:21:26 <joepie91> devslashrnd: my adblockplus stopped blocking ads
17:21:30 <joepie91> somehow, it forgot about its blocklist
17:21:32 <joepie91> had to re-add it
17:21:37 <joepie91> I didn't like it :(
17:21:50 <joepie91> ads are evil.
17:21:55 <MK_FG> And I think there are two groups of people - the ones who can't focus in presence of ads and go insane
17:22:21 <MK_FG> And the others who are filtering them on subconscious level and don't really see them w/o blocking
17:22:39 <joepie91> also, I have to give credit to the Verge - they correctly said "largest Bitcoin exchange has shut down trading", rather than implying that Bitcoin trading had been halted altogether
17:22:45 <joepie91> their article was completely unambiguous
17:22:49 <joepie91> MK_FG: mm..
17:23:00 <joepie91> 'filtering them on a subconscious level' doesn't remove the effect, though
17:23:00 <joepie91> :)
17:23:37 <MK_FG> Dunno, maybe, but every time I see browser of, say, my parents, I go "WTF!?!?!111oneone"
17:23:46 <MK_FG> And they're like "what? what ads?" ;)
17:23:58 <MK_FG> It's just incredible!
17:24:24 <joepie91> lol
17:25:39 <devslashrnd> its not only ads, worst enough. what about exploited ad-nets servin drive-by trojans. happens every day
17:27:16 <devslashrnd> "why is my pc so lame, i didnt do anything" - get that question once a week^^
17:27:42 <MK_FG> At least maybe now they'll stop mining bitcoin on it!
17:28:14 <MK_FG> Always seeing the bright side, I am! ;)
17:28:24 <devslashrnd> yep, litecoin is more cpu-friendly ;) gpu and fpga doesnt work with their hashes
17:31:25 <joepie91> devslashrnd: at least malware is typically recognizable
17:31:27 <joepie91> and known to be dangerous
17:31:35 <joepie91> people still think they are immune to marketing
17:31:39 <joepie91> just because they "don't notice it"
17:33:06 <MK_FG> Hence the ever-going fight for targeted ads, so they'd blend into page as much as possible, leaking through faulty human filtering systems...
17:33:26 <joepie91> ^
17:33:47 <MK_FG> Though come to think of it, why ads are still so poorly targeted wrt the sites they're on?
17:34:12 <zxcvbnm> I get ads for "Christian" singles all the time because my name is Christian
17:35:29 <MK_FG> Guess the logic is "people visit same group of sites anyway, so we'll just focus on peeps' prefs and get the sites right for free!"
17:36:23 <MK_FG> zxcvbnm, Careful, if your nick here leaks to google, they'll be offering you keyboards
17:36:42 <zxcvbnm> lol
17:37:13 <MK_FG> Or maybe password-generation software...
17:37:25 <devslashrnd> but only qwerty-ones
17:37:41 <zxcvbnm> I assume Google already connects every persona I have.. even though I go through VPNs/VIPs and segregate my work/private use
17:37:55 <zxcvbnm> That's why I just don't do anything illegal
17:38:14 <devslashrnd> yeah, me too ;)
17:38:37 <MK_FG> No worries, one day they'll make all your today's activities illegal and put you behind bars anyway!
17:38:37 <zxcvbnm> bunch of god damn upstanding citizens! :D
17:38:46 <zxcvbnm> ha. :P
17:39:03 <devslashrnd> im a whitehat google, remember that
17:39:16 <zxcvbnm> I'm bleach-whitehat. beat that.
17:39:40 <MK_FG> Hats are only for criminals
17:39:54 <MK_FG> You should be ashamed of yourselves!
17:39:55 <zxcvbnm> Debatable.
17:40:16 <zxcvbnm> http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium/good-guys-wear-white-hats-kenneth-kelsoe.jpg
17:41:15 <MK_FG> Apparently, they're some kind of masochists, too
17:41:31 <MK_FG> It must be insane amount of work to keep hats that white
17:41:37 <MK_FG> All the time, too!
17:41:47 <MK_FG> Even in rain?!
17:44:10 <devslashrnd> u dont wear ur whitehat in rain
17:44:32 <MK_FG> I knew it! A doppleganger! Werewolf! GET HIM!!!!
17:46:42 <devslashrnd> when it rains i wear my white shower cap
17:47:16 <MK_FG> I wear my hair at all times
17:48:14 <MK_FG> Given fairly cold winter here, I'm glad I haven't been cutting it for more than a year now
17:48:39 <MK_FG> I'm a "brown hat"!
17:50:55 <lady-3jane> you shit on stuff?
17:51:18 <MK_FG> Occasionally, yes ;)
17:54:04 <devslashrnd> lady-3jane whats ur hats color? hope it isnt pink
17:54:37 <lady-3jane> orange n.n
17:54:56 <joepie91> ^ predictable answer
17:55:01 <joepie91> :P
17:55:01 <lady-3jane> ^
17:55:04 <lady-3jane> :P
17:55:17 <devslashrnd> joepie likes oranje
17:56:09 <lady-3jane> j'aime naranja :>
17:57:08 <MK_FG> Can someone explain why openssl does this - http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.openssl.user/48464 ?
17:57:21 <lady-3jane> >openssl
17:57:24 <lady-3jane> there's your problem
17:57:27 <lady-3jane> :D
17:58:00 <MK_FG> Yeah, only using gnutls is actually even more painful!
17:58:09 <MK_FG> They break ABI every other version
17:58:48 <lady-3jane> I meant something like polarssl
18:00:18 <MK_FG> Never heard about it, actually
18:00:42 <lady-3jane> I've seen it recommended a few places
18:01:19 <lady-3jane> I need to see if it's supported as an alternate ssl system in nginx
18:01:21 <lady-3jane> cause that's what I want
18:02:00 <lady-3jane> their shit looks very very nice and clean
18:02:32 <lady-3jane> most of the functions seem to be... self contained? so you just pull the couple functions you need rather than the whole behemoth
18:02:58 <lady-3jane> oooh fuck yeah
18:03:03 <lady-3jane> ecdhe is coming soon
18:03:12 <lady-3jane> it's in their dev branch now
18:03:13 <lady-3jane> yes yes yes
18:03:19 <lady-3jane> respect the hotness
18:07:19 * zxcvbnm refuses
18:07:57 <devslashrnd> gettin bored in the kittchen, i need a cook... and a waitress... and a dish washer
18:08:12 <lady-3jane> :>
18:08:20 <devslashrnd> so were do i get to the christian singles?
18:08:28 <lady-3jane> lol
18:13:00 <joepie91> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E81h69tx5w&feature=youtu.be
18:17:34 <zxcvbnm> :P
18:17:37 <lady-3jane> bad fucking ass
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19:27:30 <ElectRo`> http://watchmycoins.com/
19:27:35 <ElectRo`> countdown to chaos
19:39:40 <DrWhat> lady-3jane: lady be that?
19:40:01 * lady-3jane slaps DrWhat
19:40:43 <DrWhat> Why has mtgox suspended payments?
19:40:50 <DrWhat> did it get hacked again?
19:42:14 <lady-3jane> they either got ddos'd or dos'd due to volume so they took their exchange offline
19:42:19 <lady-3jane> tl;dr: cocks
19:42:49 <DrWhat> Damn
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19:57:11 <crytocc-c2> hm
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22:16:19 <DrWhat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0s2MQ-jHPQ
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23:23:06 <scaepy> is there a .manifest over #crytocc ?
23:27:43 <joepie91> well, there's http://cryto.net/
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23:32:28 <DrWhat> (facepalm
23:32:47 <scaepy> oh yes, but some day i read it and i felt like i need to read it again
23:33:27 <zest> )
23:35:25 <joepie91> http://dataliberation.blogspot.nl/2013/04/plan-your-digital-afterlife-with.html
23:35:27 <joepie91> Not many of us like thinking about death â?? especially our own. But making plans for what happens after youâ??re gone is really important for the people you leave behind. So today, weâ??re launching a new feature that makes it easy to tell Google what you want done with your digital assets when you die or can no longer use your account.
23:35:48 <lady-3jane> yep
23:36:18 <lady-3jane> I'm stoked about it
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