Cryto! 9 April 2013
00:16:14 <Angelina> The command “MSG” is not known to the server.
00:29:35 <lady-3jane> .
00:43:03 <lady-3jane> <art> hello
00:43:04 <lady-3jane> <art> is anybody here, or are all of you bots ?
00:43:04 <lady-3jane> <pettter> define "bot"
00:43:04 <lady-3jane> <pettter> I am an electrochemical contraption interacting with you via a text interface
00:43:04 <lady-3jane> <art> i am still trying to define bot
00:43:08 <lady-3jane> my favorite thing today
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01:07:34 <joepie91> lol
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01:27:49 <DrWhat> nexus still down
01:27:53 <DrWhat> \whois DrWhat
01:28:06 <DrWhat> derpy
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01:41:24 <joepie91> no it's not?
01:41:29 <joepie91> huh
01:41:30 <joepie91> maybe it is
01:41:31 <joepie91> sec
01:42:02 <DrWhat> lol
01:42:12 <DrWhat> silly moo
01:42:30 <DrWhat> arnt you glad im around :)
01:42:39 <DrWhat> always spotting the server that are down
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01:42:47 <joepie91> weird stuff
01:42:49 <joepie91> services disconnected
01:42:51 <joepie91> and didn't reconnect
01:42:57 <joepie91> oh well
01:43:04 <joepie91> DrWhat: yes, thanks :P
01:43:14 <DrWhat> :P
01:46:50 <AnonyOps> OKAY
01:46:56 <AnonyOps> Who is bout to do some more testing with me?
01:47:21 <AnonyOps> Think I got this going good now
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01:49:16 <DrWhat> testing what?
01:49:26 <AnonyOps> web app I'm working on...
01:49:29 <AnonyOps> sec though...
01:51:06 <AnonyOps> wtf m8
01:51:15 <AnonyOps> Why does shit work on my local server then not on my live one?
01:51:17 <AnonyOps> God damnit lol
01:51:46 <DrWhat> ?
01:51:58 <DrWhat> ill test it
01:52:00 <DrWhat> :P
01:52:06 <DrWhat> let see the source
01:52:08 <AnonyOps> http://anonyops.com/testing/
01:52:21 <AnonyOps> I'm testing the chat box
01:52:43 <AnonyOps> using .append() in jquery to append any new "comments"
01:52:56 <AnonyOps> to the chat-viewer box
01:53:05 <DrWhat> Ooooooh jquery
01:53:07 <AnonyOps> but it appends it fine, then it dissapears
01:53:08 <DrWhat> fun :D
01:53:20 <AnonyOps> Type something in the chat box... I want to see if I can see it.
01:53:32 <AnonyOps> Yeah I saw that
01:53:36 <AnonyOps> but see what it did?
01:53:39 <AnonyOps> It just went away!
01:53:40 <AnonyOps> WTF
01:53:47 <DrWhat> Im testing xxs
01:53:53 <AnonyOps> Aint gonna work
01:53:58 <AnonyOps> htmlspecialchars();
01:54:02 <AnonyOps> I got this shit
01:54:06 <DrWhat> Still worth a try :P
01:54:25 <AnonyOps> I have no idea why it's disappearing though...
01:54:36 <AnonyOps> I mean... maybe it has something to do with the query being empty
01:54:50 <AnonyOps> and it appending empty space??
01:55:08 <AnonyOps> And furthermore... WHY DOES THIS WORK ON MY LOCAL SERVER AND NOT ON THE LIVE ONE?!
01:55:09 <DrWhat> its blank for mw
01:55:11 <AnonyOps> bwah
01:55:14 <DrWhat> me*
01:55:24 <AnonyOps> did you see that?
01:55:27 <DrWhat> i cant see what i put in
01:55:49 <DrWhat> ahh now what i type is coming up
01:55:50 <DrWhat> Lag
01:55:50 <AnonyOps> sec...
01:56:33 <AnonyOps> yeah idk what this things doing here o.O
01:56:34 <DrWhat> lol invalid nick XD
01:56:52 <AnonyOps> yeah :p
01:58:07 <DrWhat> Its not working
01:58:13 <DrWhat> non of the messages are going through
01:58:15 <AnonyOps> I see what you're saying
01:58:25 <DrWhat> i dont
01:58:38 <AnonyOps> Gotta be quick though cuz it's derping for some reason...
01:58:56 <AnonyOps> I didn't expect it to fail like this, since it works on my local server.
01:59:26 <AnonyOps> I think it has something to do with blank space...
01:59:39 <AnonyOps> Maybe it's just filling it up with spaces or something
02:01:16 <DrWhat> i dunno
02:04:22 <DrWhat> why does it say my nick is invalid
02:04:25 <DrWhat> what ever i choose
02:04:45 <AnonyOps> /^[^<>"&]+$/i
02:04:54 <AnonyOps> <>"& ??
02:04:57 <AnonyOps> any of those?
02:05:14 <lady-3jane> lol
02:05:23 <lady-3jane> your nick is invalid_nick
02:05:25 <lady-3jane> I lol'd
02:05:49 <lady-3jane> and nothing shows up local
02:06:07 <AnonyOps> Yeah it's bugged for some reason. It should show up real quick and disappear though
02:06:10 <AnonyOps> That's what it is doing for me
02:06:16 <lady-3jane> It's not showing up at all for me
02:07:44 <AnonyOps> Yeah now it's doing the same for me...
02:08:25 <AnonyOps> lolwut now I see invalid_nick <textarea>
02:09:01 <AnonyOps> DONGS DONGS DONGS
02:09:04 <AnonyOps> Now I see that
02:09:23 <lady-3jane> I refreshed and now it's gone
02:09:52 <AnonyOps> Yes, you only see what is there when you join the chat room.
02:10:09 <AnonyOps> From when you joined the chat onward
02:10:12 <AnonyOps> like IRC
02:10:15 <lady-3jane> problem: it only works half the time
02:10:23 <AnonyOps> I'm aware haha
02:10:26 <lady-3jane> like I said a couple more things and they aren't there
02:10:48 <AnonyOps> I see, are you go?
02:11:07 <lady-3jane> no
02:11:38 <AnonyOps> hm....
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02:11:48 <AnonyOps> What you guys say is getting put into the db
02:11:55 <lady-3jane> huh
02:12:00 <lady-3jane> it ain't showing up here
02:12:01 <AnonyOps> It's just only sometimes coming out o.O
02:12:07 <lady-3jane> or only half the time
02:12:14 <lady-3jane> yeah, bout half the time
02:12:22 <lady-3jane> do you have some sort of faggy limiter on it?
02:12:29 <lady-3jane> 1 message, wait 15s before another
02:12:31 <lady-3jane> or something
02:12:34 <AnonyOps> nope
02:12:45 <lady-3jane> cause that's the behavior it is exhibiting
02:12:57 <AnonyOps> I know. There is no limits like that though.
02:13:00 <lady-3jane> aaaaaand now it won't post at all
02:13:02 <lady-3jane> :|
02:13:22 <lady-3jane> annnnd it worked
02:13:23 <lady-3jane> what the fuck man
02:13:30 <AnonyOps> IDK LOL
02:13:38 <AnonyOps> Like I said, this works fine on my local server.
02:14:32 <lady-3jane> are you doing any sort of message accounting?
02:14:39 <lady-3jane> or certification or anything
02:14:42 <AnonyOps> What do you mean?
02:15:02 <lady-3jane> client knows it sent messages 1,2,3, server replies to say yes received 1,2,3
02:15:36 <lady-3jane> or are you relying on the server to accept the messages and THEN put them back onto my screen?
02:15:38 <lady-3jane> because that's dumb
02:15:46 <AnonyOps> sec
02:15:55 <lady-3jane> you should display the local message instantly and ajax the message on over to the server
02:16:15 <lady-3jane> then it can send the message to everyone but me
02:16:20 <DrWhat> ITS TO BUGGY TO TEST
02:16:30 <lady-3jane> or mark it with the same message ID and the client can discard messages it already has
02:16:34 <lady-3jane> some shit like that
02:16:44 <DrWhat> and stop sapmming HEADERS!!!!
02:16:44 <AnonyOps> Yeah it needs more work
02:17:04 <DrWhat> i cant saee the replies or what i send becuase i cant select the packet
02:17:08 <lady-3jane> there's probably some less-retarded way to do it, what with me not really coding and all, but that's a better start I think
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02:24:09 <DrWhat> ITS NOT WORKING
02:24:11 <DrWhat> FUCK
02:24:25 <AnonyOps> lol I see that Drwhat... working on it now
02:24:48 <AnonyOps> This is pretty much what happens...
02:25:14 <AnonyOps> 1. Takes your comment, puts it into table (ajax)
02:26:01 <AnonyOps> 2. ajax does a query for all comments with field IsDisplayed = 0; and used jquery .append() to add them to the chatbox
02:26:33 <AnonyOps> The comment is also updated to be IsDisplayed = 1l
02:26:34 <AnonyOps> *1
02:27:05 <AnonyOps> so then next time it queries, it doesn't select it, cuz it's already been outputted
02:27:17 <DrWhat> HA
02:27:24 <DrWhat> Param polution
02:27:34 <AnonyOps> ?
02:29:01 <DrWhat> Oh wait never mind
02:34:46 <DrWhat> i got bored waiting
02:34:53 <AnonyOps> That's fine
02:45:32 <AnonyOps> How do you not spam the headers on a page like that?
02:45:58 <AnonyOps> It is constantly checking for new comments, and for number of people on the page
02:48:19 <DrWhat> have the server send the replies to them
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03:02:06 <lady-3jane> "server push"
03:02:22 <AnonyOps> hm?
03:02:29 <lady-3jane> his q
03:02:37 <lady-3jane> your q, sorry
03:02:44 <AnonyOps> Yes, what do you mean?
03:03:03 <lady-3jane> instead of asking for the shit, the server sends the info
03:03:13 <lady-3jane> hence the quotes
03:03:17 <lady-3jane> the term is server push
03:03:24 <lady-3jane> ajax is pull
03:03:27 <lady-3jane> usually
03:03:44 <joepie91> longpolling/websockets!
03:03:50 <lady-3jane> ^
03:04:10 <lady-3jane> basic shit like that has really good support in websockets too
03:04:22 <lady-3jane> like most modern browsers will easily do it
03:05:35 <lady-3jane> NP: [Purity Ring - Lofticries] [Shrines] [2665kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
03:05:56 <lady-3jane> pulseaudio can deal with 2665kbps, but not the other one
03:06:30 <lady-3jane> alsa, that's the other one
03:06:57 <lady-3jane> and oss, cause I have that shit too
03:06:59 <lady-3jane> :|
03:07:13 <lady-3jane> someday I will make my own linux
03:07:14 <lady-3jane> :>
03:10:10 <lady-3jane> maybe hlfs or something
03:10:14 <lady-3jane> that'd be the shit
03:10:39 <lady-3jane> If I was enough of an asshole, I could crossconvert ubuntu to lfs
03:11:03 <ElectRo`> apt as the pkg manager?
03:11:12 <lady-3jane> fuck no
03:11:22 <lady-3jane> no package manager at all
03:11:32 <ElectRo`> updates how do they work
03:11:44 <lady-3jane> they don't
03:11:56 <lady-3jane> that's the idea
03:12:05 <ElectRo`> lol vuln
03:12:13 <lady-3jane> updates: ain't nobody got time fo dat
03:12:15 <ElectRo`> ive been using slack builds for my lfs
03:12:27 <lady-3jane> not vuln enough to matter
03:13:16 <lady-3jane> openbsd doesn't do updates :P
03:13:28 <ElectRo`> chattr and ro partitions
03:13:41 <ElectRo`> and other obsurities if you dont want to update
03:13:47 <lady-3jane> slax is a good concept for it
03:14:03 <lady-3jane> save personal data to a partition/file
03:14:14 <lady-3jane> everything else is ro
03:14:33 <ElectRo`> havent played with slax :(
03:15:08 <lady-3jane> it's mostly what I just said
03:15:22 <lady-3jane> livedisk, but any "user data" is kept on a crypted flashdrive or partition sort of thing
03:16:05 <lady-3jane> but eh
03:16:11 <lady-3jane> idgaf
03:16:14 <lady-3jane> I want linux with ports
03:16:22 <lady-3jane> that's what I really want
03:16:47 <lady-3jane> cause freebsd is bad fucking ass, but I haven't tried using it for a desktop PC and I'm not sure I want to
03:17:27 <ElectRo`> im crazy and run portage on my freebsd
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03:18:16 <ElectRo`> just wish open was a little more up to speed with things
03:18:29 <lady-3jane> :>
03:18:50 <lady-3jane> we only moved to 9.1 cause they announced official support end for 9.0
03:18:54 <lady-3jane> we were still on -p3
03:18:55 <lady-3jane> lulz
03:19:13 <lady-3jane> NEVER REBOOT
03:19:15 <lady-3jane> EVER
03:19:23 <ElectRo`> 7.4 for life
03:19:30 <ElectRo`> never gunna reboot that boxen
03:20:37 <lady-3jane> oh god no
03:20:46 <lady-3jane> 7.x was when I got into freebsd, it was just so nice
03:20:58 <lady-3jane> I felt sexy just /using/ it
03:22:27 <lady-3jane> NP: [RJD2 - Final Frontier (feat. Blueprint)] [Deadringer] [945kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
03:22:48 <lady-3jane> oh fuck I keep forgetting to turn that into an action
03:22:54 <lady-3jane> lulz
03:23:27 <lady-3jane> oh man, i3 ftmfw
03:23:52 <lady-3jane> clicked a link, went oh shit chrome's closed, moved to an empty workspace where chrome then appeared
03:24:25 <ElectRo`> im *box'er
03:24:27 <ElectRo`> hot keys
03:24:31 <ElectRo`> hot keys everywhere
03:25:12 <lady-3jane> I've never used things other than gnome or unity, so this is fun :>
03:25:26 <lady-3jane> or plain old cli
03:26:06 <ElectRo`> ttyin like a boss
03:26:19 <ElectRo`> chromatic colors
03:26:45 <lady-3jane> I'm waiting for terminology (e17) to become more stable
03:26:49 <lady-3jane> It's so gorgeous
03:27:06 <lady-3jane> 0.3 and it still fucks up on my daily shit, so not yet ready for prime time
03:28:16 <lady-3jane> oh shit, I should work on my "why bitcoin is the same as gold" writeup
03:28:21 <lady-3jane> instead of drinking
03:28:25 <lady-3jane> or maybe in addition to drinking
03:28:30 <lady-3jane> I like that latter idea better
03:29:09 <ElectRo`> why btc = gold segwayed to the ballmer affect
03:29:52 <lady-3jane> well I need to read what I wrote already because the first time I had downed two cups of coffee in the same hour
03:29:58 <lady-3jane> so my head was like puff the magic dragon
03:31:08 <lady-3jane> hahaha writing -> win+8
03:31:50 <lady-3jane> oh and another thing that needs much more research to support
03:32:08 <lady-3jane> but boils down to "I see Anonymous as part of Terrance Mckenna's archaic revival."
03:32:43 <lady-3jane> and I'm writing a thing about free will...
03:32:56 <lady-3jane> and yeah, I met this girl, so basically shit's getting real re:creativity
03:32:57 <lady-3jane> :P
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04:03:40 <Angelina> lady-3jane I've never used things other than gnome or unity, so this is fun :>
04:04:00 <Angelina> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager
04:04:19 <lady-3jane> hi yes thank you for pasting what I said and then linking to what I'm using
04:04:38 <Angelina> i3, smonad, wmii
04:04:47 <Angelina> xmonad *
04:04:52 <lady-3jane> hi yes thank you for listing i3, which I'm currently using
04:04:58 <lady-3jane> >_>
04:05:55 <Angelina> You are welcome.
04:07:03 <Angelina> I didn't see indication of what specific wm you were using so I figured I might introduce you to the more esoteric types.
04:22:13 <lady-3jane> oh, you must be remi
04:42:41 <lady-3jane> someday I'll try to give half a fuck about your gender, and until that day you're safe
04:42:51 <lady-3jane> :3
04:50:00 <MK_FG> Indeed, who cares, it's well-known that "people" of the internets reproduce by forking
04:52:03 <lady-3jane> :3
04:52:13 <lady-3jane> I reproduced by forking, and I'll do it again this spring
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10:58:36 <Cryto096> heey
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14:53:03 <zxcvbnm> good morning crytoers
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17:21:54 <MK_FG> \\o
17:23:27 <joepie91> hai
17:24:46 <lady-3jane> I have a compose key again :D
17:24:54 * lady-3jane rit
17:25:05 <joepie91> compose key?
17:25:07 <joepie91> also, was that french?
17:25:09 <lady-3jane> yeeees
17:25:12 <lady-3jane> to both :D
17:25:25 <lady-3jane> rire, to laugh
17:25:51 <lady-3jane> key for making accénts!
17:25:59 <MK_FG> Heheh
17:26:14 <lady-3jane> I had forgotten it, and then i tried to type french
17:26:16 <lady-3jane> didn't go over so well
17:26:24 <MK_FG> Now you can haxxxxor broken ascii-only things with teh keyboard only!
17:26:31 <lady-3jane> yesssss
17:26:46 <lady-3jane> ma favorite est Ö
17:26:57 <lady-3jane> too much shift
17:27:01 <lady-3jane> "o
17:27:07 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:27:31 <lady-3jane> ö
17:27:33 <lady-3jane> there we go
17:27:38 <lady-3jane> I kept fuckin up the keys
17:27:46 <MK_FG> Have you seen http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/545741/2a4a558691dc88e0/ ?
17:27:47 <lady-3jane> or ç
17:27:49 <lady-3jane> <3
17:28:24 <lady-3jane> oh dear
17:28:36 <MK_FG> Big unicode - big problems ;)
17:28:42 <lady-3jane> ce n'est pas bien :D
17:29:01 <lady-3jane> I hated the US alternative keyboard layout
17:29:09 <lady-3jane> was awsm for accents and such, but it defaults to accents
17:29:27 <lady-3jane> which means I have to "escape" normal letters that just merely follow an apostrophe and such
17:29:30 <joepie91> lady-3jane: I just use US international with alt gr
17:29:36 <joepie91> I don't see the problem :|
17:29:40 <joepie91> äåéëþüíúö
17:29:49 <lady-3jane> It's an extra spacebar every time I type a word?
17:29:56 <lady-3jane> slowed the fuck out of my typing
17:29:57 <joepie91> knackebröd
17:29:58 <joepie91> no it isn't
17:30:01 <joepie91> that's the point
17:30:03 <lady-3jane> it was, yeah
17:30:23 <joepie91> with alt gr = by default a ' or " will show instantly
17:30:27 <joepie91> as will all other characters
17:30:35 <joepie91> and to type an é you'd do altgr+e
17:30:43 <joepie91> ë = altgr+r
17:30:51 <lady-3jane> I do not know what altgr is
17:30:53 <joepie91> altgr being right alt
17:31:01 <joepie91> most keyboards show it as altgr
17:31:03 <lady-3jane> that's what I bound my compose key to
17:31:12 <lady-3jane> lol
17:31:15 <joepie91> right, isn't that like default for US International keyboard layout?
17:31:23 <lady-3jane> it didn't work that way
17:31:28 <joepie91> æ©®bñµ
17:31:30 <joepie91> ñ
17:31:31 <lady-3jane> it defaulted to making me type a space
17:31:31 <joepie91> ñññññ
17:31:35 <joepie91> ñññ :D!
17:31:37 <lady-3jane> which was fucking DUMB
17:31:45 <joepie91> lol
17:31:51 <joepie91> that's US International with special characters
17:31:53 <joepie91> or some shit
17:32:04 <joepie91> standard US International doesn't do that
17:32:20 <joepie91> by the way, the keyboard layout you're describing is the default keyboard layout on Dutch Windows machines
17:32:27 <joepie91> and it's near fucking impossible to permanently change it
17:32:32 <joepie91> giant annoyance, as a programmer
17:32:40 <lady-3jane> what is standard us international
17:32:48 <joepie91> you set a diff layout as default, you reboot twice, and it sets it back to shitty layout
17:33:08 <joepie91> afaik the altgr/compose thing is standard US international
17:33:14 <joepie91> and the extra space thing is called "dead keys"
17:33:20 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:33:33 <joepie91> yup
17:33:34 <joepie91> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_key
17:33:40 <lady-3jane> us alternative international
17:33:40 <joepie91> A dead key is a special kind of a modifier key on a typewriter or computer keyboard that is typically used to attach a specific diacritic to a base letter. The dead key does not generate a (complete) character by itself but modifies the character generated by the key struck immediately after.
17:33:49 <DrAway> [18:32:05] HaCkER: [1:31:11 PM] The Noob: your friend DrWhat has been indiscreet lol
17:33:49 <DrAway> [1:31:21 PM] The Noob: word has gotten around about his rez glitch
17:33:49 <DrAway> [1:31:34 PM] The Noob: i hope he is more sensible ahead
17:33:49 <DrAway> [18:32:17] HaCkER: be back n a bit, 85 outside so to nice to be on pc
17:34:01 <joepie91> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key
17:34:25 <lady-3jane> I have never seen an altgr key labeled like that
17:34:29 <lady-3jane> huh
17:35:12 <joepie91> nearly every keyboard here has it
17:35:15 <joepie91> might be a regional thing lol
17:35:39 <lady-3jane> or it's just that I've used the same keyboard since I started with pc's
17:35:49 <lady-3jane> :D
17:36:20 <joepie91> lol
17:38:38 <lady-3jane> sooo
17:38:42 <lady-3jane> BAH
17:38:44 <lady-3jane> see!?
17:38:53 <lady-3jane> us international makes me do spaces
17:39:50 <lady-3jane> letś
17:39:50 <lady-3jane> grr
17:39:56 * lady-3jane beats with stick
17:41:53 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:42:08 <lady-3jane> see if you do lalt+apostrophe+s it gives normal
17:42:13 <lady-3jane> but it defaults to ś
17:42:33 <lady-3jane> doesn't matter us alt intl or us intl with dead keys
17:42:36 <lady-3jane> both have same behavior
17:44:02 <joepie91> ß?
17:44:26 <MK_FG> Б?
17:44:53 <lady-3jane> :/
17:45:18 <MK_FG> Who needs non-ascii anyway
17:45:33 <lady-3jane> I just want accents :D
17:45:48 <lady-3jane> j'aime mes accénts
17:46:28 <MK_FG> You won't be able to encrypt that with rot-13 then
17:48:19 <lady-3jane> is that supposed to be something I should want to do?
17:48:20 <Matrix> joepie91: :D:D:D:D:D?
17:48:23 <Matrix> pm :3?
17:48:39 <lady-3jane> Because I beat people up who encode with rot13
17:48:41 <lady-3jane> :D
17:48:41 <Matrix> inb4 i-never-delivered-the-patch-i-was-suppose-to-do
17:49:21 <MK_FG> Yeah, it's weak nowadays, double-rot13 is the military-grade
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17:49:39 <lady-3jane> that's like saying 3des is still relevant
17:49:39 <joepie91> hai Matrix
17:49:39 <joepie91> sure
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17:56:02 <zxcvbnm> I am rot-13.
17:56:26 <ElectRo`> i am the egg man
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17:57:29 <MK_FG> Me be a potato then
17:58:04 <zxcvbnm> Rot-13 beats eggs, eggs beat potatos, potato beats rot-13
17:58:33 <MK_FG> I don't like to beat anyone!
17:59:11 <zxcvbnm> Well, these are inanimate things we're talking about here
17:59:18 <zxcvbnm> Except potatoes, I suspect potatoes could be classified as animate
17:59:46 <MK_FG> Animated potatoes!
18:00:51 <MK_FG> What's the right way to hijack/break random tcp connection? FIN or RST?
18:02:22 <MK_FG> Preferrably so that recv() (blocking) on one end would be interrupted/return as well
18:02:30 <MK_FG> (at least on linux)
18:03:50 <joepie91> RST I think
18:03:57 <joepie91> but not sure
18:07:17 <MK_FG> Hm, damn, guess there's no way around sending that to both endpoints
18:08:35 <MK_FG> Both FA and R cause instant death on remote, but local machine gets the response with invalid seq and ignores it, blissfully hanging
18:09:31 <MK_FG> Why linux doesn't have some interface to just cut established tcp connections?
18:09:42 <joepie91> pretty sure it does?
18:09:58 <MK_FG> Hmm? It does?
18:10:12 <MK_FG> I'd be very interested to see one!
18:10:58 <MK_FG> Any details would be helpful
18:11:42 <MK_FG> I know of one way - inject shellcode into pid via ptrace to run close() on socket or break it in some other way
18:11:53 * joepie91 is not sure how, but is pretty sure he's seen it somewhere once
18:11:55 <MK_FG> But it's damn fragile and kinda hard...
18:15:25 <lady-3jane> I love that efnet banned all of hetzner
18:16:00 <MK_FG> No one but spammers there, eh?
18:16:28 <lady-3jane> It mostly has to do with hetzner's response to abuse complains
18:16:55 <lady-3jane> which was to forward all the contact info for one of efnet's server admins to the abuser
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18:17:46 <joepie91> .license bla
18:17:52 <MK_FG> I'd think efnet admins are hardly anywhere near anonymous
18:17:57 * joepie91 frowns
18:18:00 <joepie91> .ping
18:18:01 <botpie91> Ping failed. Are you sure you specified a valid hostname or IP?
18:18:05 <joepie91> .license wtfpl
18:18:08 <joepie91> ??
18:18:18 botpie91 has quit (Client exited)
18:18:47 <MK_FG> "I cannot allow you to do that, joepie91"
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18:19:38 <joepie91> .license bla
18:19:39 <botpie91> Sorry, could not find any licenses for that search term.
18:19:44 <joepie91> that is satisfactory behaviour
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19:45:15 <lady-3jane> I really should learn how to stack windows
19:45:28 <lady-3jane> cause having 10 workspaces is unacceptable
19:45:48 <lady-3jane> I've got some split shit, but this thing can stack
19:45:57 <lady-3jane> maybe I can tab some stuff too?
19:46:03 <lady-3jane> STACKED TABS BWAHAHAHA
19:48:57 <lady-3jane> man, tiling window managers just make me want to scream DICKS DICKS DICKS LOOOOOOOL IIIIIIINTERNEEEEEET while using them
19:49:26 <lady-3jane> Here, let me carve my windows
19:49:31 <lady-3jane> no, fuck YOU!
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20:00:23 <joepie91> .bitcoin
20:00:23 <botpie92> $1 = 233.000 BTC, €1 = 178.837 BTC
20:00:37 botpie92 has quit (Client exited)
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20:00:46 <joepie91> .bitcoin
20:00:46 <botpie92> $1 = 233.00 BTC, €1 = 178.84 BTC
20:00:49 <joepie91> there we go
20:00:51 botpie92 has quit (Client exited)
20:01:09 <DrAway> ?
20:01:18 <DrAway> 233 bitcoins for $1?
20:01:29 <joepie91> oops
20:01:29 <joepie91> lol
20:01:33 <DrAway> i just yestursay is was $160 for 1
20:01:35 <zxcvbnm> that doesn't look right :P
20:01:52 <zxcvbnm> wow it's balooned up to $160? Wasn't it just $100 a week ago
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20:02:08 <DrAway> i went up to $190 peek
20:02:10 <joepie91> .bitcoin
20:02:10 <botpie92> 1 BTC = $233.00, 1 BTC = €178.84
20:02:12 <joepie91> there
20:02:18 <DrAway> THATS BETTER
20:02:21 <joepie91> how the fuck did I confuse those lol
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20:02:21 <DrAway> see
20:02:27 <DrAway> its £233 now
20:02:33 <DrAway> $233*
20:02:35 <zxcvbnm> .bitcoin arg0 arg1 arg2
20:02:41 <DrAway> ?
20:02:48 <joepie91> DrAway: yes
20:02:51 <zxcvbnm> .bitcoin
20:02:55 <joepie91> http://realtimebitcoin.info
20:02:58 <zxcvbnm> Doesn't listen to anyone but you
20:02:59 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: patience lol
20:03:02 <zxcvbnm> :P
20:03:02 <joepie91> it just quit
20:03:06 <zxcvbnm> Oh.
20:03:06 <joepie91> it was the dev instance
20:03:11 <zxcvbnm> Thought I saw 2 in here
20:03:16 <joepie91> pushing to production instance now
20:03:34 <joepie91> .admin restart
20:03:39 <joepie91> ?
20:03:39 <DrAway> are people accualy buying a selling?
20:03:40 <joepie91> .restart
20:03:42 <joepie91> .reload
20:03:44 <joepie91> grrr
20:03:46 <joepie91> .helpo
20:03:48 <joepie91> er
20:03:48 <joepie91> .help
20:03:53 <zest> ))
20:03:53 <joepie91> goddamnit phenny
20:04:07 <zxcvbnm> .dance ?
20:04:10 <DrAway> wow somone just bought $3500
20:04:11 <zest> ))
20:04:16 <joepie91> DrAway
20:04:19 <joepie91> these are transactions
20:04:20 <joepie91> not exchanges
20:04:27 <DrAway> WHY AM I AWAY
20:04:33 <DrAway> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
20:04:34 * DrAway is b a ck [17h 10m 57s]
20:04:34 *** DrAway is now known as DrWhat
20:04:45 <joepie91> .quit
20:04:50 <joepie91> okay fuck it
20:04:51 DrWhat has quit (User quit: Anac ø nÐa · "In order to get a loan you must first prove you don't need it")
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20:05:04 <ElectRo`> i wish mtgoxlive would work :<
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20:05:05 <joepie91> .bitcoin
20:05:06 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $232.62, 1 BTC = €176.40
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20:05:14 <DrWhat> You bastard
20:05:16 <zxcvbnm> .bitcoin
20:05:16 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $232.62, 1 BTC = €176.40
20:05:18 <DrWhat> You quit my client
20:05:22 <zxcvbnm> .bitcoin arg0 arg1
20:05:22 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $232.62, 1 BTC = €176.40
20:05:39 <zxcvbnm> .b i t c o i n
20:05:47 <zxcvbnm> :P
20:05:51 <DrWhat> .bitcoin op drwhat
20:05:52 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $232.67, 1 BTC = €177.30
20:06:09 <DrWhat> :3
20:06:22 <DrWhat> somone just bought $100000
20:06:29 <DrWhat> $10,000
20:06:46 <DrWhat> wow
20:06:50 <joepie91> no
20:06:53 <DrWhat> 2 billion coins in circulation
20:06:57 <joepie91> <joepie91>DrAway
20:06:58 <joepie91> <joepie91>these are transactions
20:06:58 <joepie91> <joepie91>not exchanges
20:07:03 <joepie91> read that again
20:07:07 <DrWhat> in dollar*
20:07:47 <joepie91> there's no way to tell whether a transaction is a purchase, an exchange, or just moving it to a differnet address
20:08:28 <DrWhat> sooooo?
20:08:34 <DrWhat> its inaccurate?
20:09:51 <DrWhat> we are running special promotions for the 1 and 2 years license, this is why, if you consider the daily cost, 3 years is most expensive.
20:10:04 <DrWhat> has everyone go awoll?
20:10:16 <joepie91> no, it's not inaccurate
20:10:21 <DrWhat> Or just me?
20:10:24 <joepie91> it just doesn't give you enough information to say what those transactions are
20:11:44 <DrWhat> Lack of possible infomation bores me >.>
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20:13:06 <zxcvbnm> lol @ developers developers developers
20:15:21 <joepie91> okay thank you gmail, you can let me click and actually open my emails now, thanks
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20:20:59 <DrWhat> Thank you evony
20:21:05 <DrWhat> You singled me out once again :P
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22:11:54 <AnonyOps> http://rt.com/news/lulzsec-hackers-plead-guilty-578/
22:33:36 <DrWhat> ryan is in there
22:33:41 <DrWhat> why does ryan need to be in ther
22:33:55 <DrWhat> why not add nerdo while you at it
22:34:01 <DrWhat> you get alot more view and google hit
22:34:08 <DrWhat> fucking retards
22:34:12 <DrWhat> i ort to
22:34:15 <DrWhat> well i ort to
22:34:18 <DrWhat> GRRRRRR
22:34:33 <DrWhat> I simply must masterbait
22:40:44 <joepie91> .bitcoin
22:40:45 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $235.40, 1 BTC = €179.20
22:59:07 <DrWhat> YAY
22:59:11 <DrWhat> FUN
22:59:16 <DrWhat> FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN
22:59:39 * DrWhat BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUCE BONUCE BPOUBE OBCE
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