Cryto! 22 February 2013
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00:25:03 <lady-3jane> I am generally entertained that synaptic works better inside e17
00:25:08 <joepie91> http://awesomescreenshot.com/073ylgvad
00:25:10 <lady-3jane> must be gnome/unity
00:25:10 <twitchyliquid64> e17?
00:25:21 <lady-3jane> enlightenment, it's a desktop environ
00:25:34 <lady-3jane> quite light, based on libraries for a physics engine
00:25:34 <twitchyliquid64> cool
00:25:35 <lady-3jane> :P
00:25:44 <twitchyliquid64> I started writing a 3d rendering engine last night
00:25:56 <joepie91> pzuraq: see above screenie
00:25:56 <twitchyliquid64> entirely in software (no GPU)
00:26:05 <lady-3jane> lol joepie91 dat button
00:26:55 <twitchyliquid64> Im having trouble limiting the view to a camera though
00:27:03 <twitchyliquid64> I think I need to redo my calculations
00:29:21 <DrAway> lady-3jane Be that a lady?
00:29:36 <lady-3jane> Huh?
00:29:55 <lady-3jane> NP: [Beastie Boys - She's Crafty] [Licensed To Ill] [280kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
00:30:03 <DrAway> ehhH?
00:31:07 <twitchyliquid64> http://codeincodeblock.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/projecting-3d-world-co-ordinates-into.html
00:31:10 <twitchyliquid64> beast article
00:31:18 <twitchyliquid64> this will take me hours to read and implement
00:31:20 <lady-3jane> woot woot
00:31:34 <lady-3jane> NP: [Ducksauce - Barbra Streisand] [Mega House Top 100 2012] [301kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
00:31:37 <twitchyliquid64> My little rendering algorithm i was using yesterday was only a few lines
00:31:54 <lady-3jane> BARBRA STREISAND WOOoooOooOOOOOOOOooOOoOOOo0000~
00:31:56 <twitchyliquid64> lady-3jane: Barbra Streisand. Do do do do, do do do, do do do, do do
00:32:21 <DrAway> 3d coordenate What
00:32:23 <lady-3jane> hahaha reminds me of a few days ago
00:32:35 <lady-3jane> I was telling someone that I technically co-own a hosting company
00:32:38 <twitchyliquid64> Im making a 3d rendering engine
00:32:40 <lady-3jane> and they're like "oh?"
00:33:07 <lady-3jane> "Yeah, we mostly draw penises together in the sand. Sometimes we even deploy new servers!"
00:33:23 * lady-3jane giggles
00:33:46 <DrAway> :/
00:33:54 <DrAway> Why am i away
00:34:00 * DrAway is b a ck [2h 47m 18s]
00:34:00 *** DrAway is now known as DrWhat
00:34:04 <DrWhat> :/
00:34:13 <lady-3jane> because you have a script that can fuck straight the hell off
00:34:52 *** DrWhat is now known as DrAway
00:35:05 *** DrAway is now known as DrWhat
00:35:09 <DrWhat> There we go
00:35:14 <DrWhat> [Personal Notice] NickServ: Nick DrAway is now registered to your account.
00:35:47 <DrWhat> :/
00:36:00 <lady-3jane> NP: [Beck - Loser] [Mellow Gold] [225kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
00:36:17 <DrWhat> I just releised why i wondered why i was away
00:36:30 <joepie91> http://awesomescreenshot.com/0e5yli020
00:36:31 <joepie91> there we go
00:36:32 <DrWhat> I wanted to go away
00:36:35 <joepie91> less obtrusive version of button
00:36:39 <joepie91> for non-signup forms
00:36:41 <lady-3jane> hot
00:37:02 <joepie91> but still has that ridiculous urge to PRESS ALL THE BUTTONS
00:37:03 <joepie91> :p
00:37:09 <DrWhat> use lightshot
00:37:15 <joepie91> interestingly, the original button evoked the same response in most people
00:37:19 <lady-3jane> wait wait wait
00:37:21 <lady-3jane> NP: [Backstreet Boys - Larger Than Life] [Millennium] [275kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
00:37:24 <joepie91> read: obsessively clicking it
00:37:29 <joepie91> even if it didn't do anything
00:37:33 <joepie91> just because it seemed physically pressable
00:37:40 * lady-3jane pops and locks
00:37:43 <joepie91> which is an... interesting effect
00:37:44 <joepie91> lol
00:38:12 <joepie91> DrWhat
00:38:24 <DrWhat> Also
00:38:28 <joepie91> aside from you suggesting something that doesn't work on Linux as an alternative for something that DOES work on Linux
00:38:36 <joepie91> why would I use lightshot as opposed to awesomescreenshot?
00:38:39 <DrWhat> "free Proformance sollusion for java"
00:38:52 <DrWhat> Performance and java should not be in the same sentance
00:39:03 <joepie91> that sentence shouldn't be written in the first place
00:39:05 <lady-3jane> java was quite fast when I used it
00:39:06 <joepie91> the spelling is atrocious
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00:39:07 <joepie91> :|
00:39:18 * DrWhat slap joepie91
00:39:20 <lady-3jane> Not quite as fast as C, but quite competitive
00:39:54 <lady-3jane> (We processed the same dataset with apps written in both languages)
00:40:08 <DrWhat> whos we?
00:41:42 <lady-3jane> I'm quite sure that's not relevant
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00:42:27 <lady-3jane> admittedly, I was essentially using java in a procedural manner
00:42:48 <lady-3jane> it was suggested, but not required, that we use objects, so I didn't
00:42:50 <lady-3jane> fuck objects
00:43:24 <lady-3jane> haaaaaaa
00:43:25 <lady-3jane> NP: [Incubus - Warning] [Morning View] [246kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
00:43:48 <lady-3jane> loggy, pointer?
00:43:48 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-02-22#T00-43-48
00:44:26 <lady-3jane> mmm, toast with jam
00:49:36 <joepie91> grrrr, geany crashed
00:49:56 <lady-3jane> awh
00:50:10 <lady-3jane> my geany is stable, but I disabled everything in it haha
00:50:25 <joepie91> issue doesn't seem to be with geany
00:50:31 <lady-3jane> oh good
00:50:36 <joepie91> happened in open file dialog
00:50:36 <joepie91> so probably gtk fuckup
00:51:19 <lady-3jane> YAY
00:51:24 <lady-3jane> CHROME 25!
00:51:38 <lady-3jane> HAHAHAHA
00:51:43 <lady-3jane> and the second java update in a week
00:52:08 <lady-3jane> 7u7->7u13->7u15
00:52:20 <lady-3jane> I think I'm close to up-to-date now
00:58:31 * lady-3jane wonders if turning on content security policy would kill twitter pages
00:58:53 <lady-3jane> obvious solution: try it
01:04:59 <lady-3jane> oh motherfuckers
01:05:09 <lady-3jane> you have to quote it when a header has multiple arguments
01:05:16 * lady-3jane facepalms
01:09:46 <lady-3jane> okay, is enabled
01:10:27 <lady-3jane> only thing I haven't done is disable shitty tls and handshake ciphers
01:10:46 <lady-3jane> I want to see if I can get away with only ecc stuff
01:10:48 <lady-3jane> that would be ultra legit
02:57:54 <joepie91> foreach(Campaign::CreateFromQuery("SELECT * FROM campaigns WHERE `OwnerId` = :UserId", array(":UserId" => $sCurrentUser->sId)) as $sCampaign)
02:57:56 <joepie91> CPHP is fun :D
02:59:07 <lady-3jane> I just did ab to my static-shit server
02:59:22 <lady-3jane> concurrency 100, 10k requests, total time 9.58 seconds
02:59:32 <joepie91> what's max reqs/sec?
03:00:15 <lady-3jane> Requests per second: 18.37 [#/sec] (mean)
03:00:25 <lady-3jane> times... 100 I think?
03:00:29 <joepie91> hm
03:00:32 <lady-3jane> since it was running 100 of em
03:00:35 <joepie91> ah
03:00:38 <joepie91> just run one
03:00:40 <joepie91> and see how high it gets
03:00:40 <joepie91> :p
03:00:43 <lady-3jane> haha alright
03:00:48 <lady-3jane> 100k requests maybe?
03:01:01 * lady-3jane reruns
03:02:44 <lady-3jane> oh here we go
03:02:48 <lady-3jane> I need to not set a timeout
03:05:19 <lady-3jane> and then I guess the other one I can hit is a non https page
03:05:22 <lady-3jane> I want to see the difference
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04:08:30 <lady-3jane> okay joepie91 I did some less retarded tests... without https I get around 135 requests per second
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04:11:46 <lady-3jane> actually, looking at the summary it's uploading at 500kbytes/s which means it's 135/s cause it's linemaxing
04:12:03 <lady-3jane> that's pretty sweet
04:12:16 <lady-3jane> line runs out before my shitty 1.8ghz does. epic.
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06:47:23 <Divinite> beeeeeewwww
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10:29:46 <wh1t3r4bb1t> good morning?
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12:23:56 <DrWhat> Good moaning
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12:48:22 <DrWhat> :/
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14:01:42 <DrWhat> News tiday
14:01:55 <DrWhat> Sony release a new peice of fucking shit box thing
14:02:01 <DrWhat> that doesnt fucking work
14:02:16 <DrWhat> Time status : [Up time: 1w 21h 31m 17s] × [mIRC up time: 4d 13h 40m 54s] × [On-line time: 21h 32m 14s] × [Idle time: 13s] × [Local time: 14:02:20] × [Date: 22/02/2013]
15:18:36 <DrWhat> update `update` from `evomap`.`servers` where `servers_id` = `$SID` value ($update)
15:18:41 <DrWhat> Is that correct ?
15:22:54 <wh1t3r4bb1t> yep
15:43:20 <lady-3jane> tee heee
15:54:06 <DrWhat> I used
15:54:07 <DrWhat> UPDATE `evomap`.`servers` SET `update` = '1' WHERE `servers`.`servers_id` = $SID;
15:56:11 <DrWhat> Its done :)
15:59:51 <DrWhat> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '' (T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE), expecting identifier (T_STRING) or variable (T_VARIABLE) or number (T_NUM_STRING) in C:\xampp\htdocs\mapsql\sql.php on line 11
15:59:54 <DrWhat> Ehhh???
16:01:08 <DrWhat> that line
16:01:09 <DrWhat> $server_id = "<option value=\"$result['servers_id']\">Server ";
16:02:02 <DrWhat> whats wrong?
16:08:20 <DrWhat> nvm fixxed it
16:08:24 <DrWhat> And made it tight
16:08:25 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/tq05y
16:08:25 <DrWhat> :)
16:12:45 <lady-3jane> oh?
16:13:09 <lady-3jane> you should be able to get liberation serif or bitstream charter, both are linux standard fonts
16:13:19 <lady-3jane> georgia and cambria are ms fonts
16:13:31 <lady-3jane> (and can be installed via the microsoft ttf package)
16:13:39 <joepie91> pretty sure I have liberation serif
16:13:44 <lady-3jane> hmm
16:14:16 <lady-3jane> oof
16:14:22 <lady-3jane> that font looks like shit
16:14:28 <lady-3jane> wiiierd
16:14:35 <joepie91> <DrWhat>Sony release a new peice of fucking shit box thing
16:14:35 <joepie91> <DrWhat>that doesnt fucking work
16:14:41 <joepie91> yes, they do this every once in a few years
16:14:44 <joepie91> lady-3jane: exactly
16:14:45 <joepie91> :P
16:14:48 <lady-3jane> hmm
16:14:52 <joepie91> it's pretty painful to read
16:15:06 <lady-3jane> I may have to remove some of those then... I know linux serif is usually really nice
16:15:11 <lady-3jane> the fallbacks on linux are wonderful
16:15:31 <joepie91> yes
16:15:33 <joepie91> also
16:15:38 <joepie91> I fucking love Open Sans
16:15:39 <joepie91> like seriously
16:15:44 <joepie91> most awesome Sans font ever
16:15:45 <lady-3jane> mmk
16:15:47 <joepie91> for general readability
16:15:55 <joepie91> and aesthetic pleasing
16:16:09 <lady-3jane> I'll consider it in headers, but I won't use a sans font in body text
16:16:21 <joepie91> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
16:16:32 <joepie91> ^ Open Sans
16:17:48 <lady-3jane> I'll have to see if I can conditionally load it... I hate webfonts because they fuck up page loading (because browsers are shit)
16:17:54 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/tq05y
16:17:55 <DrWhat> :)
16:18:22 <DrWhat> anythingto compain abiyt thtere joepie
16:18:24 <DrWhat> not much
16:19:21 <lady-3jane> anyway I have class, I'll be back later
16:19:30 <lady-3jane> thanks for pointing shit fonts out, joepie91 :)
16:19:42 * lady-3jane sees everything in georgia
16:19:55 <DrWhat> comic sans :)
16:20:00 <DrWhat> best font in the worlsd
16:20:02 <DrWhat> best font in the world
16:20:17 <DrWhat> inb4 rage in
16:20:19 <DrWhat> 3...
16:20:20 <DrWhat> 2...
16:20:22 <DrWhat> 1...
16:44:32 <joepie91> DrWhat: you're using mysql_* and not using htmlspecialchars
16:45:39 <DrWhat> Joe do you ever use is_numrical
16:46:15 <DrWhat> is_numericl()
16:46:23 <DrWhat> It kind of explans it self
16:46:37 <DrWhat> Unless the value is a number it will not be passed
16:47:10 <DrWhat> Plus `update` is int(1)
16:47:19 <DrWhat> there no room for any tags
17:30:22 <wh1t3r4bb1t> It says change the main.js OR change the form action... but to what? UploadHandler.php's path or the index in server/php??? I wish all coders left as good of comments as I do.
17:37:20 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: eh?
17:37:36 <joepie91> DrWhat: I don't care if there is 'room' for any tags
17:37:47 <joepie91> you escape special chars for any variable that EVER touches output
17:37:49 <joepie91> period
17:37:49 <joepie91> no exceptions
17:37:57 <joepie91> and you escape it on OUTPUT, not on input
17:38:26 <joepie91> (most people understand it but some people still store htmlspecialchars'd data in their db)
17:38:52 <joepie91> unrelated, DrWhat, what editor are you using?
17:39:00 <wh1t3r4bb1t> joepie91, for this http://blueimp.github.com/jQuery-File-Upload/
17:39:32 <joepie91> uh, https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload/wiki/Setup ?
17:39:33 <Matrix> lol
17:39:39 <Matrix> joepie91, sitting at beer and programming
17:39:46 <Matrix> suddenly, they mention your blog post
17:40:01 <joepie91> Matrix: beer and programming? and, the python one you mean? :P
17:40:14 <Matrix> bunch of people sit down and drink beer and talk programming
17:40:15 <Matrix> irl
17:40:21 <Matrix> and yes, the python one
17:40:26 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Yes joepie91 that
17:40:30 <Matrix> i am the youngest D:
17:41:33 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I'm not quite sure where your issue is?
17:41:33 <joepie91> "Edit main.js and adjust the url option to the URL of your custom file upload handler. "
17:41:57 <joepie91> Matrix: heh
17:42:00 <wh1t3r4bb1t> works on my server when it's standalone... soon as I include it in any other project it breaks.
17:42:23 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I'm more and more getting the feeling that you do not have a sane development environment
17:42:34 <joepie91> I hear you complain that something works on X but not on Y, like once every 3 days
17:42:36 <joepie91> that's not good
17:42:55 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Fixed all the breakage accept it won't upload because it won't use it's own upload handler even though I specify the location of the file
17:42:58 <joepie91> if you have a good dev environment set up, you have this problem maybe 1, 2 times a month at the *very* most?
17:43:03 <Matrix> joepie91: it was just fun hearing it tbh ^^
17:43:19 <joepie91> Matrix: yes, I'm a bit surprised at how far it spread
17:43:26 <Matrix> indeed
17:43:30 <Matrix> but some of them did agree with you :)
17:43:38 <joepie91> well yes, that's part of the problem
17:43:45 <joepie91> "some of them agree" is actually the problem
17:43:52 <Matrix> haha
17:44:01 <Matrix> not everyone did python
17:44:02 <Matrix> thats why "some"
17:44:02 <joepie91> either noone should be agreeing (because the problem doesn't exist) or everyone should be agreeing (because the problem DOES exist and everyone acknowledges it)
17:44:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Just like HE said to fucking do and on top of that nobody posted any fucking code that WORKED in any of the reports on this issue but it allegedly was "fixed" somehow.
17:44:18 <Matrix> only me and one guy does python on a regular basis
17:44:30 <joepie91> if only part of the people are agreeing, which is what is currently the case, that means that half the people are experiencing it as a serious problem, while the other half pretends there's nothing wrong
17:44:37 <joepie91> because it doesn't apply to their personal perspective
17:44:42 <joepie91> that is a Very Bad Thing
17:45:01 <joepie91> Matrix: I'm seeing this everywhere, though
17:45:09 <Matrix> joepie91: i know
17:45:11 <joepie91> there's an absolutely ridiculous amount of people that have said they agree with the article in private
17:45:19 <joepie91> but don't want to speak out in public about it
17:45:25 <joepie91> because of backlash from 'the python community;'
17:45:31 <joepie91> this also happened before the article
17:45:37 <joepie91> like, really? this makes the problem even clearer..
17:45:48 <Matrix> i speake out
17:45:48 <Matrix> because really
17:45:59 <Matrix> if they kick me for saying "hey, ya are hostile!11!"
17:46:03 <Matrix> i get my point proven
17:46:09 <Matrix> and i think they keep it in the back of their head
17:46:16 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I really recommend you try to have your development environment reflect your production environment exactly... invest a day or so into setting things up properly and over the long haul you'll save weeks
17:46:29 <joepie91> I know that setting things up "takes time"
17:46:38 <joepie91> but all the bits of being stuck over the coming months together, take far more time
17:46:54 <joepie91> so just put a bit of effort into creating a proper development environment
17:46:58 <joepie91> before you go on
17:47:02 <joepie91> Matrix: yes
17:47:11 <joepie91> honestly, 'back of the head' is what I'm aiming for here
17:47:25 <joepie91> I'm not under the illusion that writing this blogpost will magically make people jump up
17:47:29 <joepie91> and fix the docs
17:47:33 <wh1t3r4bb1t> joepie91 uhm it workd in the dev environment and the sevrer when it's standalone
17:47:35 <joepie91> nor do I believe people are psychic
17:47:56 <joepie91> reason for doing it like this, is giving it maximal exposure, creating some discussion and even controversy around it
17:48:02 <wh1t3r4bb1t> lol add my custom upload handler... uhm im using THER FUCKING HANDLER>
17:48:03 <joepie91> and it'll stick in peoples minds
17:48:14 <wh1t3r4bb1t> So I point to it and uhm nooooo not working
17:48:23 <joepie91> and hopefully, over time, people will start going "hey, this guy on IRC is complaining about the docs... maybe that post.."
17:48:33 <joepie91> and maaaaybe actually try to deal with it in a more sane manner
17:49:23 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I don't have any more responses to give until you respond to what I said
17:49:25 <joepie91> as in, literally
17:49:31 <joepie91> I don't have anything to say
17:49:37 <Matrix> joepie91: one thing tho
17:49:39 <joepie91> no idea what to respond with
17:49:42 <Matrix> one thing is complaining about it
17:49:43 <Matrix> but if you don't do anything yourself
17:49:45 <Matrix> nobody else will do anything
17:49:53 <joepie91> Matrix: that in itself is a problem
17:49:58 <joepie91> am I supposed to be running the world?
17:50:04 <Matrix> example
17:50:17 <joepie91> or should I be able to turn around and focus my attention on something else, and *for once* have someone make an effort THEMSELVES to fix shit?
17:50:20 <joepie91> when being pointed at it?
17:50:23 <wh1t3r4bb1t> The development invironment IS the production environment
17:50:25 <joepie91> instead of me having to coordinate the whole thing again
17:51:00 <joepie91> you can say "but you're not doing anything yourself!" if you're talking to someone that never makes an effort to fix shit himself, and just spends his time sitting around and watching TV
17:51:18 <Matrix> where i atm live we are 5 people
17:51:19 <Matrix> 4 of them dislike me becasue of x stuff
17:51:20 <Matrix> but they never tell me
17:51:20 <Matrix> they always keep it too themself
17:51:20 <Matrix> and that does not solve the problem
17:51:32 <joepie91> but eh, saying that to someone that simply does not have the time or energy to coordinate yet ANOTHER thing because he's already coordinating a million other things that people conveniently ignore?
17:51:36 <joepie91> sorry, but that's just unrealistic to expect
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17:51:51 <joepie91> oh goddamnit, not colocrossing again
17:52:15 <wh1t3r4bb1t> burp
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17:53:36 <joepie91> sigh, not this shit again
17:53:48 <joepie91> why do hub and colocrossing always start losing packets at the same time
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17:55:45 <joepie91> sigh
17:55:48 <Matrix> merp
17:55:49 <joepie91> welcome back Matrix
17:55:52 <joepie91> stupid packet loss
17:55:52 <Matrix> sap with the servers?
17:55:59 <joepie91> both colocrossing and hub started losing packets again
17:56:01 <joepie91> very annoying
17:56:01 <joepie91> anyway
17:56:06 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> joepie91: one thing tho
17:56:07 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> one thing is complaining about it
17:56:08 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> but if you don't do anything yourself
17:56:08 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> nobody else will do anything
17:56:08 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> example
17:56:08 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> where i atm live we are 5 people
17:56:11 <Matrix> 17:49 < Matrix> 4 of them dislike me becasue of x stuff
17:56:13 <Matrix> 17:50 < Matrix> but they never tell me
17:56:16 <Matrix> 17:50 < Matrix> they always keep it too themself
17:56:18 <Matrix> 17:50 < Matrix> and that does not solve the problem
17:56:21 <Matrix> there
17:56:24 <Matrix> my rant when, BOOK netsplit
17:56:26 <Matrix> BOOM*
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>Matrix: that in itself is a problem
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>am I supposed to be running the world?
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>or should I be able to turn around and focus my attention on something else, and *for once* have someone make an effort THEMSELVES to fix shit?
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>when being pointed at it?
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>instead of me having to coordinate the whole thing again
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>you can say "but you're not doing anything yourself!" if you're talking to someone that never makes an effort to fix shit himself, and just spends his time sitting around and watching TV
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>but eh, saying that to someone that simply does not have the time or energy to coordinate yet ANOTHER thing because he's already coordinating a million other things that people conveniently ignore?
17:56:28 <joepie91> <joepie91>sorry, but that's just unrealistic to expect
17:56:51 <joepie91> I've pointed out the problem
17:56:56 <joepie91> I've explained where it lies
17:57:00 <joepie91> I've implied how to fix it
17:57:16 <joepie91> is it really too much to expect to have *one* fucking Python developer out of thousands and probably millions
17:57:22 <joepie91> make an attempt to get a project running
17:57:23 <joepie91> to fix it?
17:57:27 <joepie91> *really?*
17:57:36 <joepie91> I have enough shit to be busy with as is
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17:59:55 <joepie91> anyway, Matrix, did you get it?
18:00:22 <Matrix> sorry, was chatting :P
18:00:24 <Matrix> 2 sec
18:00:31 <joepie91> k
18:01:25 <Matrix> yeah i get it
18:01:33 <Matrix> but people think like that
18:01:40 <joepie91> so?
18:02:09 <Matrix> i am just poinint it out m8 :3
18:02:15 <Matrix> pointing*
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18:02:21 <joepie91> I know, but "but people [...]" is typically a (not necessarily conscious) attempt at defending an existing situation
18:02:27 <joepie91> in order not to have to do anything against it
18:02:31 <Matrix> btw
18:02:32 <joepie91> most people do this unconsciously
18:02:37 <Matrix> joepie91: get on vox, nox wanna chat
18:02:51 <joepie91> because if it's not an attempt to deflect the issue, why would you mention it if the other person is clearly already aware?
18:03:09 <joepie91> I am on vox..
18:03:17 <Matrix> strange
18:03:27 <Matrix> he said he was waiting...hmmmmm
18:03:41 <joepie91> I probably didn't respond to a HL
18:03:45 <joepie91> I've clicked away quite a few highlights
18:04:22 <joepie91> (this is why I always tell people to just leave me a PM instead of asking me to PM first)
18:05:09 <Matrix> i didn't know that O.o
18:05:16 <Matrix> now i know then
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18:07:18 <DrWhat> [5:38:57pm] (~joepie91) unrelated, DrWhat, what editor are you using?
18:07:22 <DrWhat> Notepad++
18:07:28 <joepie91> with what color scheme?
18:07:29 <DrWhat> sometimes Dreamweaver
18:07:45 <DrWhat> ermm let me look
18:08:00 <DrWhat> dark board
18:08:05 <Matrix> ...
18:08:09 <Matrix> DrWhat: try Sublime Text
18:08:11 <Matrix> its awsome
18:08:19 <Matrix> and looks awsome
18:08:32 <DrWhat> :/
18:08:43 <Matrix> unlimited evaluation time
18:09:48 <DrWhat> Cool looking at the gif
18:10:50 <Matrix> I know.
18:10:52 <Matrix> It is awsome
18:11:29 <DrWhat> But fancy Doohiccies and all that
18:11:31 <joepie91> DrWhat: k, thanks
18:11:39 <joepie91> seems like first dark color scheme that isn't retarded
18:11:39 <joepie91> that I've seen so far
18:11:39 <DrWhat> How will it really help
18:11:40 <joepie91> lol
18:11:56 <DrWhat> joepie91 thats why i use it :)
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18:12:08 <Matrix> DrWhat: sublime you thinking?
18:12:20 <DrWhat> Huhh?
18:12:23 <joepie91> also, giant mindfuck:
18:12:26 <joepie91> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuMont_Television_Network
18:12:43 <joepie91> vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont
18:12:53 <DrWhat> Matrix How will it help me...
18:12:59 <joepie91> I.. what?
18:14:27 <DrWhat> joepie91 where to get more colour schemes
18:14:33 <DrWhat> for npp
18:14:40 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I submitted a ticket
18:14:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> It's error after error with that uploader
18:14:58 <joepie91> DrWhat: no idea
18:15:08 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Fix one and another one is born
18:15:26 <DrWhat> you would thing there would be a commuinity or somthing with a collection of npp colour schemes
18:15:57 <DrWhat> its not in resources
18:16:24 <Matrix> DrWhat: Well, multicursor support. You got snippets. a fucking large plugin ecosystem with tons made for web development
18:17:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t> BlueImp should've fucking not used relative links for one thing and for another he should write out a fucking paragraph explanation on how to implement into another project. I hate sparse documentation. It's fucking laziness pure and simple.
18:17:40 <DrWhat> where are these plguins
18:17:45 <DrWhat> I want to see one
18:17:48 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I'm going to cuss now to relieve stress
18:17:55 <Matrix> DrWhat: http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/community
18:18:50 <wh1t3r4bb1t> nigger cunt fuckwad slut ball faggot ass toe jam licking fromunda cheese lapping son of baby jesus' whore mother.
18:19:19 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I still have no idea what your problem is
18:19:29 <joepie91> I hope you gave blueimp more information than you gave us
18:19:43 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Now I will enjoy some ice cold water and await my tickets response. :D
18:20:18 <DrWhat> Matrix Ill try it....
18:20:25 <Matrix> DrWhat: :)
18:20:30 <Matrix> Just yell if you got questions
18:20:33 <Matrix> used it tons
18:20:35 <wh1t3r4bb1t> If you want to see it my ticket is here... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jquery-fileupload/j-7RLFl1jME
18:20:39 <DrWhat> But you enthuseame for me to download is disterbing
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18:22:33 <Matrix> DrWhat: :D:D:D:D:D::D:D
18:22:39 <Matrix> Nah but really
18:22:51 <Matrix> people using NotePad++ instead of SUblime...hnnggg
18:22:55 <Matrix> Its just ugly
18:23:02 <DrWhat> Excuse me
18:23:08 <Matrix> Sublime is clean, and pretty :3
18:23:12 <DrWhat> Notepad++ has given me 4 years og good service
18:23:14 <Matrix> not to mention the awsome command apllette
18:23:16 <Matrix> pallette*
18:23:28 <Matrix> http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/
18:23:32 <Matrix> ^Awsome blog
18:25:16 <DrWhat> Where do i put themes?
18:26:14 <DrWhat> Similar to TextMate, we can use Sublime’s command palette by accessing the Tools menu, or by pressing Shift + Command + P, on the Mac. Whether you need to visit a Preferences page, or paste in a snippet, all of that can be accomplished here.
18:26:19 <DrWhat> Yeah
18:26:21 <DrWhat> That mac
18:26:37 <DrWhat> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 95% OF THE POPULATION
18:27:48 <Matrix> DrWhat: ummmm
18:27:53 <Matrix> change cmd with ctrl?
18:28:07 <DrWhat> THEY COULD OF TOLD ME THAT
18:28:11 <Matrix> so ctrl+shift+p
18:28:30 <DrWhat> Cool
18:28:33 <DrWhat> Now what
18:29:19 <Matrix> DrWhat: start developing :D
18:29:28 <Matrix> If you like VIM, you can get the vim keybinds in sublime
18:29:33 <Matrix> you can go throught the plugins
18:29:36 <Matrix> gets the package manager
18:29:40 <Matrix> maybe find a different theme?
18:29:57 <Matrix> it got autocompletion for HTML and PHP.
18:30:03 <Matrix> and plugins cover mostly the other languages
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18:33:57 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/tqk61
18:33:58 <DrWhat> Welll
18:34:05 <DrWhat> I kinda like the php theme
18:34:39 <DrWhat> ohhh :)
18:34:44 <DrWhat> joepie91 Check this out
18:34:52 <DrWhat> Blackboard is even better in subline :)
18:35:08 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/tqkce
18:35:11 * DrWhat claps
18:36:46 <joepie91> idk, I think I liked the np++ one better\
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18:40:22 <DrWhat> sunburst looks now
18:40:25 <DrWhat> nice*
18:42:33 <joepie91> interestingly, I also have a Blackboard theme for Geany I thinjk
18:43:27 <joepie91> hm, or maybe not
18:43:39 <joepie91> I'm sure I recognize these theme names though
18:44:40 <DrWhat> ehh
18:44:45 <DrWhat> Im hungry
18:45:24 <DrWhat> FYI Matrix sublime isnt in rightlcik menu so the chances of me using it over npp are greatly lessened
18:45:51 <DrWhat> Having "Edit with Notepad++" there and then helps if i want to edit a file
18:51:20 <Matrix> DrWhat: you can add it
18:51:35 <Matrix> DrWhat: I don't think Windows recognize it as a text editor
18:55:04 <joepie91> actually windows doesn't have to recognize anything
18:55:08 <joepie91> you can add custom shell commands
18:55:15 <joepie91> that's what "edit with notepad++" is
18:55:19 <Matrix> hmmm
18:55:31 <Matrix> should be added by default D:
18:55:40 * Matrix uses Linux so dosnt have the need for it
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19:11:05 <DrWhat> Matrix does subline have a command structer?
19:11:13 <DrWhat> like notepad++
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19:18:44 <Matrix> DrWhat: wut?
19:19:51 <Matrix> DrWhat: maybe check out build systems
19:22:34 <DrWhat> joepie91 easypdo.robpoyntz.com/
19:30:26 <joepie91> DrWhat: right
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21:31:28 <joepie91> lol
21:31:34 <joepie91> having fun tracking these bots, are you>?
21:31:50 <DrWhat> Maybe
21:31:57 <joepie91> :P
21:32:41 <DrWhat> I just dislike them is all
21:33:48 <DrWhat> Imm adding that host to my seen menu
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21:37:11 <DrWhat> hi
21:41:04 <zxcvbnm> herro
21:43:02 <wh1t3r4bb1t> fuck shit bitch nigger asshole cum-dumpster slut whore
21:43:07 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Yeah
21:43:32 <zxcvbnm> ya know.. man
21:43:35 <zxcvbnm> just, love, bro
21:43:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Still cant get this piece of shit uploader to work.
21:45:14 <zxcvbnm> Well I can't get this piece of shit python thing to work
21:45:48 <Art> That's what killed my family
21:45:59 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I can't believe this error I'm getting has no solid answer. Every fix is different and I exhausted all of them.
21:47:14 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I want to interrogate the author with questionable methods. Torture!
21:49:55 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: what are you saying!
21:50:04 <joepie91> that wouldn't make you any better than the code that's torturing you!
21:50:14 <wh1t3r4bb1t> :P
21:50:20 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Shush it
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21:52:24 <DrWhat> If you've become fond of your PlayStation 3 games and you are planning on purchasing a PlayStation 4, you will want to hold on to your PS3 console for a while. Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida explained to reporters today that PS3 discs will not run in the PlayStation 4, nor will any of the games that you downloaded on the PlayStation Network be carried over to Sony's next-gen
21:52:24 <DrWhat> console.
21:52:24 <DrWhat> So the only way you will be enjoying any of the vast number of PS3 games on the PlayStation 4 is through Gaikai's cloud service or potentially via emulation. Bummer.
21:52:41 <DrWhat> More fucking shit from sony
21:53:06 <zxcvbnm> Doesn't sound shitty
21:53:18 <zxcvbnm> Sounds completely reasonable to me
21:53:21 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I'm gonna guess that theres a 99.9999999999999999999999999999999% chance that blueimp's php upload handler is fail and he needs to fucking reup a new one to the git.
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21:54:04 <Art> just duel wield consoles
21:54:40 <zxcvbnm> "oh yeah let me play this deprecated game in this new console"
21:54:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Mother fucking titty sucking two balled bitch!
21:55:05 <zxcvbnm> better than a one balled bitch I always say
21:55:15 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I want an umpa lumpa NOW DADDY!
21:55:20 <zxcvbnm> oompa
21:55:29 <zxcvbnm> that'd be more like a Humpa Lumpa
22:06:11 <wh1t3r4bb1t> look at how completely nigger the help is here... https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload/issues/1583
22:07:25 <wh1t3r4bb1t> This fucking faggot blueimp closes EVERY post with this error in it. and every cock knocker that "fixes" it won't post how they fucking fixed it.
22:10:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Pfffft "I fixed it by uploading the .htaccess phpini limits" You don't upload the limits you upload a file containing the limits. And whet the fuck is a php folder? Is that different from an html folder? Or an asp folder. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fcufk cufjflcifdsoigeclsguy! I hate everything right now. Everything but vagina. vagina is good.
22:12:01 <DrWhat> Oh shit
22:12:04 <DrWhat> Im in trouble
22:12:37 * zxcvbnm also <3s vagina
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22:15:08 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) ^ <3
22:15:33 <joepie91> grrrrr
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22:17:27 <DrWhat> yup
22:17:30 <DrWhat> that
22:17:45 <DrWhat> totaly ment to happen
22:19:43 <zxcvbnm> What is the best way to echo out info in Python to a .log file for debugging purposes?
22:22:01 <zxcvbnm> Most lightweight
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22:26:13 <wh1t3r4bb1t> lol this is funny
22:26:13 <wh1t3r4bb1t> https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload/issues/1583
22:27:51 <wh1t3r4bb1t> im in super debug mode right now which means echo EVERYTHING!
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22:44:28 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: there's a logging module
22:45:10 <noone> joepie91: there's a sexy module
22:45:11 <noone> right here
22:45:14 <noone> <--
22:47:36 <joepie91> lol
22:53:51 <DrWhat> :|
22:53:58 <DrWhat> Noone is sexy
22:54:04 <DrWhat> Get it :)
22:55:13 <DrWhat> You're gay
22:56:24 <noone> oh no he didn't >:U
23:03:00 <DrWhat> [23:02:23] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: Daer maria
23:03:00 <DrWhat> [23:02:29 | Edited 23:02:59] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: Today i made a desk
23:03:00 <DrWhat> [23:02:34] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: With a pillow on it
23:03:00 <DrWhat> [23:02:40] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: So i can sleeps on my desk
23:03:00 <DrWhat> [23:02:42] ╒╣DrWhat╠╕: WIN
23:04:15 <DrWhat> [23:03:53] Maria Mazza: lol
23:04:16 <DrWhat> [23:03:56] Maria Mazza: poor DR
23:04:16 <DrWhat> [23:04:03] Maria Mazza: that evomap took your life lol
23:04:17 <DrWhat> :(
23:05:20 <joepie91> lol
23:07:09 <DrWhat> i think shes talking in a riddle
23:33:49 <zxcvbnm> I don't. Get it.
23:33:56 <zxcvbnm> Not the riddle
23:33:58 <zxcvbnm> my python
23:33:59 <zxcvbnm> why
23:33:59 <zxcvbnm> god
23:34:00 <zxcvbnm> why
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23:45:10 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) I was asking myself the same thing when I was writing things in python
23:46:08 <lady-3jane> It took me hours to find the right thing haha due to... joepie's docs complaints
23:46:33 <lady-3jane> and I had to ask how to access a file... my friend humored me
23:48:29 <lady-3jane> it wasn't necessary to access a file... but it makes it so I can give out the program without my credentials anywhere in it
23:48:40 <lady-3jane> :3
23:57:05 <lady-3jane> hey joepie91 I have no idea what font you're using that looks so badly, when you're not busy can you try to figure out? I went through the whole font stack and none of them look half as bad as the ss you sent me
23:58:10 <lady-3jane> inspector -> edit css for article>p -> remove fonts from the front of the list to see what each looks like