Cryto! 28 February 2014

01:01:54 <dorotea> that's fucking perfect
01:02:14 <dorotea> I hope someday ioerror takes a sense of humor about all this
01:02:23 <dorotea> I really want to see him cracking really sharp jokes
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07:02:22 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update o.jsonAdded OpenBSD PF conf syntax highlighter.', '02Update o.jsonFixed alphabetical order.', '02Merge pull request #2882 from paukstis/masterUpdate o.json' (
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08:10:37 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add UnitJS package', '02Fix repo UnitJS', '02Merge pull request #2883 from unitjs/masterAdd UnitJS package' (
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09:23:00 <botpie91> 04musalbas made 1 commit(s) to 03jPhone on branch 10master: '02implement si4_rest' (
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10:47:02 <joepie91> dorotea: whoo, my ancient PS/2 barcode scanner still works
10:47:07 <joepie91> (using a PS/2 to USB cable)
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11:12:46 <joepie91> .bitcoin
11:12:47 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $570.24, 1 BTC = €415.40
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12:57:27 <iceTwy> joepie91: have you read
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13:01:47 <joepie91> iceTwy: not yet
13:01:50 <joepie91> will read later
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13:16:09 *** SpaghettiCode changed the topic to: "Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. |, | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: | RIP Aaron Swartz"
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13:49:59 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cphp on branch 10feature/formhandler: '02Templater and form handler updates' (
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14:01:26 <joepie91> fucking semicolons
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14:25:43 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 4 commit(s) to 03Feathur on branch 10feature/rewrite: '02Untangling spaghetti code, and proper server status dashboard styling', '02URL changes', '02URL change', '02CPHP update and refactoring for 'Add Server' form' (
14:43:33 <iceTwy> joepie91: spaghetti code
14:43:36 * iceTwy noms
14:44:14 <iceTwy> uh joepie91 though
14:44:19 <iceTwy> you'll get FOUC's with this
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14:48:37 <joepie91> iceTwy: what?
14:48:47 <joepie91> "FOUC"?
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14:49:17 <Philosoraptor> MtGox dies!
14:51:05 <joepie91> Philosoraptor: finally :)
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15:29:39 <iceTwy> joepie91: flashes of unstyled content
15:30:03 <iceTwy> i.e. when JS takes too long to load and the HTML loads beforehand
15:30:08 <iceTwy> your page looks horrible
15:32:01 <Xeross> iceTwy: CSS*
15:32:21 <iceTwy> woops, right
15:32:44 <iceTwy> though, I believe that if JS intervenes, it can also effect the page in a similar way
15:33:36 <Xeross> iceTwy: Hence, don't put it in the <head>
15:33:37 <iceTwy> and it's generally recommended to put JS scripts at the end of your page
15:33:41 <iceTwy> exactly
15:33:46 <iceTwy> that's what joepie91 seems to have done tho
15:34:27 <iceTwy> oh wait
15:34:29 <iceTwy> what
15:34:31 <iceTwy> Karpeles is French
15:34:33 <iceTwy> o.o
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15:52:16 <dorotea> lol
15:52:52 <dorotea> iceTwy:) don't give him bad optimization advice
15:54:40 <dorotea> the one useful thing in a php app is to put all the external css/js links in the head and flush(); the head before the body
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15:55:22 <dorotea> otherwise, if the code will often be used over https, it'll often be used over spdy and thus you should put all of the external resources (css, js) at the top
15:55:33 <dorotea> and you should async or defer the ones you can
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15:56:31 <dorotea> spdy detects sameorigins even on different subdomains and will multiplex subdomains if it thinks its the same server
16:15:23 <joepie91> iceTwy: FYI, I did not build that page template
16:15:25 <joepie91> I just untangled it
16:15:27 <joepie91> to make it workable
16:15:28 <joepie91> :P
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16:28:00 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Feathur on branch 10feature/rewrite: '02Refactoring of 'Add User' form, and some API/AJAX wizardry.' (
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16:36:11 <dorotea> EXCELLENT
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16:37:09 <dorotea> it can't be too early to create a new social norm in bitcoin around complete transparency can it? :D
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17:59:17 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add Broadcast Color Scheme.For more information visit', '02Reorder packages.', '02Merge pull request #2885 from vinkla/patch-1Add Broadcast Color Scheme.' (
18:03:27 <dorotea> NP: [The Lonely Island - I'm On A Boat] [Incredibad] [1111kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
18:03:43 <dorotea> which reminds me
18:03:55 <dorotea> I need to see why navigation timing works in chrome but not ff
18:04:07 <dorotea> I think they don't use an object, I think it's an array in ff
18:05:01 <dorotea> of course
18:05:16 <dorotea> chrome doesn't follow the spec and firefox doesn't implement any of the inherited methods
18:05:21 <dorotea> this couldn't be easy, could it
18:05:22 <dorotea> lol
18:06:47 <dorotea> well, at least firefox supports navigationtiming2
18:06:55 <dorotea> highres time ftw!
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18:17:17 <lysobit> .t
18:17:24 <lysobit> .title
18:17:25 <botpie91> lysobit: Fresh Tank Engine of Bel-Air - YouTube
18:21:14 <dorotea> pretty much
18:22:11 <dorotea> YES
18:22:20 <dorotea> FINALLY
18:22:30 <dorotea> I've put in like 7 recs for it :|
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18:29:37 <dorotea> NP: [Ry Cooder - Vigilante Man] [Into The Purple Valley] [667kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
18:37:02 <iceTwy> dorotea:
18:37:23 <iceTwy> I'm pretty much realizing that I wouldn't have been coding since last May if it wasn't for you and that god damn NP script lol
18:45:14 <dorotea> iceTwy:) :3
18:45:25 <dorotea> you code so I don't have to :3
18:45:43 <dorotea> and here I am doing the thing I said I never would -- dicking around in js
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18:47:15 <dorotea> hmm
18:47:19 <dorotea> I bet this is wrong somehow
18:53:52 <dorotea> seems like javascript in a browser is like walking across a field with only mines to step on
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19:11:17 <NSA> hi pzuraq
19:11:25 <NSA> sound like iraq
19:11:32 <pzuraq> lol
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19:17:15 <NSA> Zekka?
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19:41:50 <NSA> hi mama
19:42:09 <mama> hi NSA
19:43:32 <NSA> your from UK
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19:45:58 <mama> NSA: yes ;)
19:46:44 <NSA> we need to talk mama
19:47:03 <mama> ok NSA
19:47:11 <mama> talk talk ;)
19:47:41 <NSA> not here
19:49:20 <mama> NSA: go to cyberguerrilla or give me a place where we can talk
19:50:03 <NSA> ok
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20:05:16 <NSA> eggtimer?
20:05:19 <NSA> lol
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20:11:20 <iceTwy> dorotea: well, a fun fact is that I had to go through JS to really understand objects (and classes in Python, too)
20:11:29 <iceTwy> the JS approach is fairly simple after all
20:12:44 <NSA> anons are bad in programming
20:12:49 <NSA> good news
20:13:56 <iceTwy> fine, but we're not Anons
20:13:59 <iceTwy> so heh
20:14:36 <NSA> really?
20:19:01 <iceTwy> NSA: /topic
20:19:16 <NSA> ??
20:19:17 <iceTwy> "Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama". I guess that says enough
20:19:24 <iceTwy> does it not
20:19:29 <NSA> iceTwy: where are you from?
20:19:35 <iceTwy> somewhere over the rainbow
20:19:37 <iceTwy> o/
20:19:51 <NSA> are you gay?
20:20:18 <iceTwy> no, I'm not. though, what would lead you into believing that?
20:20:54 <NSA> rainbow...
20:21:06 <iceTwy> oh
20:21:27 <iceTwy> so that means that every time you look at a rainbow, you contemplate the idea of being gay, if I follow your reasoning ;)
20:22:14 <NSA> gays talk a lot about rainbow
20:22:34 <NSA> and they re not really good programmers
20:23:03 <iceTwy> er
20:23:16 <iceTwy> so Alan Turing was a bad programmer, yeah?
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20:23:34 <NSA> he was straigth
20:24:04 <MK_FG> Also, programmer in what, 1940s?
20:24:08 <iceTwy> no, he wasn't
20:24:18 <MK_FG> And yeah, he wasn't
20:24:39 <iceTwy> he suicided because he'd been publically shamed for being gay
20:24:48 <iceTwy> and actually jailed if I recall correctly
20:24:55 <NSA> because he wasnt
20:25:08 <NSA> he was dominant
20:25:15 <MK_FG> Forced to take anti-gay meds :P
20:25:20 <NSA> he was never a faggot
20:25:30 <MK_FG> NSA, Go away
20:25:59 <MK_FG> Jews, blacks, now gays...
20:26:14 <MK_FG> How dumb can you be?
20:26:30 <NSA> jews, blacks?
20:27:33 <iceTwy> NSA: I mean, anyway, that's cool, because you're wasting your own time by hating on people
20:27:42 <iceTwy> so
20:27:45 * iceTwy shrugs
20:28:24 <iceTwy> if you can't accept that people are different than your ideal vision of what they should be, then there's little hope for you
20:28:51 <NSA> what are you talking about?
20:29:12 <iceTwy> I'm talking about your remark on gay people.
20:29:14 <NSA> why are you attacking jews?
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21:10:19 <NSA> Zekka?
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21:14:24 <dorotea> such an adversarial spy
21:14:44 <NSA> a spy?
21:15:03 <dorotea> you
21:15:11 <dorotea> such an adversarial spy
21:16:36 <NSA> we are your friends
21:17:27 <NSA> we just need to know you better
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