Cryto! 28 January 2014
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03:39:13 <gesichtskirmes> morning
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04:27:47 <joepie91> ohai monod-who-isn't-here
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10:13:07 <lysobit> joepie91, god of VPS, what is the cheapest VPS evar that I can use to do a Linux server administration workshop?
10:13:54 <lysobit> to give a demonstration
10:14:47 <lysobit> oh ye,
10:14:53 <lysobit> http://vps-list.cryto.net/index.php?action=listhttp://vps-list.cryto.net/index.php?action=list
10:15:23 <lysobit> nvm
10:16:17 <joepie91> lysobit: does it need particular specs
10:17:15 <lysobit> well all I need to do is demonstrate how to setup a web server, use aptitude etc.
10:17:36 <lysobit> So specs don't really matter as long as it can run basic things
10:17:43 <joepie91> web server == ?
10:17:45 <joepie91> apache?
10:17:46 <lysobit> however a good CPU would be good so that aptitude executes quickly
10:17:48 <joepie91> or nginx/lighttpd?
10:17:53 <lysobit> probably, apache, yes
10:18:00 <joepie91> then you're going to need RAM
10:18:11 <joepie91> I'd recommend just picking a VPS from that list
10:18:12 <joepie91> :P
10:18:18 <joepie91> I would've recommended lowendspirit otherwise
10:18:24 <joepie91> 3 euro / yr, but only IPv4 NAT
10:18:30 <lysobit> I'm assuming more cores -> faster?
10:18:31 <joepie91> with dedicated IPv6
10:18:34 <joepie91> not necessarily
10:18:42 <joepie91> pretty much any VPS will have sufficient CPU
10:18:43 <lysobit> I need aptitude to run quickly
10:18:51 <joepie91> reasonably quickly or lightning fast?
10:18:53 <lysobit> otherwise we're going to be there all day
10:18:59 <lysobit> reasonably quickly i guess
10:19:05 <joepie91> then any VPS will do pretty muchj
10:19:05 <joepie91> :P
10:19:08 <joepie91> except urpad
10:19:10 <joepie91> avoid urpad
10:19:24 <lysobit> yeah, because it's very slow on my intel atom dedi :P
10:19:36 <joepie91> get something with shared CPU
10:19:39 <joepie91> (which is most)
10:20:08 <lysobit> and compiling things fast would be a nice plus, then I could give a quick demo on how to compile things
10:20:46 <lysobit> well thanks
10:34:13 <joepie91> lysobit: if you want really really REALLY fast, go for ramnode
10:34:16 <joepie91> but they're not the cheapest
10:34:16 <joepie91> :p
10:34:23 <joepie91> still cheap, but not THE cheapest
10:39:42 <lysobit> $2 is cheap :P
10:43:16 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adding "Easygit" plugin', '02Order fixed (easygit)', '02Update e.json', '02Merge pull request #2701 from Ivanca/patch-1Adding "Easygit" plugin' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/66d1827699...64872f10d5)
10:43:21 <joepie91> lysobit: yearly paid
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12:06:45 <xalfa> salve
12:06:51 <xalfa> c'รจ nessuno??
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12:14:32 <dragondaksh> hey can anyone tell me what is bearerbox??
12:14:50 <dragondaksh> smsbox/wapbox?
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12:19:37 <joepie91> .welcome xalfa
12:19:37 <botpie91> xalfa: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
12:21:09 <xalfa> hi, I'm a member of #Cipolla, you know why I can no longer get in?
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13:21:30 <monod> good morning people
13:23:12 <monod> *afk*
13:54:11 <joepie91> morning monod :)
13:56:45 <monod> hey there joepie91 :) *back to semi-afk*
13:57:01 <monod> oh, can't believe! MK is not online!
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14:10:18 * monod has to reboot this Win machine at uni...
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14:13:11 <joepie91> huh.
14:22:49 <joepie91> <joepie91>court has ruled that Dutch ISPs do not have to block TPB
14:22:50 <joepie91> :D
14:23:54 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Updated repository url for UIkit autocomplete', '02Merge pull request #2708 from florianletsch/masterUpdated repository url for UIkit autocomplete' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/64872f10d5...abda49dceb)
14:27:27 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Fixed Sublime Text 3 compatability issue with Fill CF Query', '02Merge pull request #2709 from adampresley/masterFixed Sublime Text 3 compatability issue with Fill CF Query' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/abda49dceb...83ae09ee2b)
14:27:51 <monod> oh LOL
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14:28:06 <monod> btw, it's all so strange the environment around TPB.
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15:19:06 <monod> joepie91, I would advise you to read some biographies of some of the most brilliant people lived in the past century, when you'll have some spare time {error at line 1: "spare time not defined/not allowed/unallocated" :) }. Here's a brief list: Carl Gauss(*), Henri Poincare(*), Pascal, Lorentz (chaos theory)(*). (*) are my favs and I can't come up with more atm.. You'll just find other interesting bios by reading those ones.. I used to read them while in
15:19:06 <monod> high school, so I thought you may want to give it a look in case you missed something
15:19:12 <monod> wb MK_FG!
15:19:16 <monod> *back afk*
15:19:40 <MK_FG> Hi
15:20:26 <MK_FG> My ISP decided that I needed a break from the internets for a day or two :P
15:22:51 <monod> haha
15:22:52 <monod> sad thing
15:22:55 <monod> oh guys
15:23:08 <MK_FG> Nah, I wasn't using it lately much anyway
15:23:20 <monod> I think I've found a goddamn bug at the end in my uni department's windows installation! *_*
15:23:28 <monod> oh, fine then MK
15:23:47 <monod> unlike joepie, who has laggy FIBER connection o_O
15:24:41 <MK_FG> Fibers sound nice, but iirc ISPs connect them in a weird ways...
15:25:32 <MK_FG> I.e. using one splitter for all the fibers to the whole building
15:25:44 <monod> fibers is nice indeed, he has some good up/down speeds atm :) but he can't stay online for 5 seconds, iirc
15:25:46 <MK_FG> So everyone's traffic goes to everyone else...
15:25:51 <monod> haha XD
15:25:57 <monod> cleverly.
15:26:32 <MK_FG> Also strange boxes with fiber port they install and contractually forbid to touch (makes sense - put your own there and sniff all the things!)
15:26:55 <monod> how do you know this? :O
15:27:12 <MK_FG> All second-hand info, no idea if true, and didn't research it myself ;)
15:27:28 <monod> haha, "second-hand information" xD
15:27:54 <MK_FG> Well, from people who are connected to fiber here and (mostly in nearby towns)
15:28:05 <MK_FG> s/to/by/
15:29:06 <MK_FG> Not sure why fiber isn't common in the fairly big city here, but common in smaller ones around it...
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15:29:28 <monod> true
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15:45:28 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added Hope Plugin', '02Merge pull request #2705 from Kikobeats/masteradded Hope Plugin' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/83ae09ee2b...4eec71511e)
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16:23:13 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03linux-dash on branch 10master: '02HTTPS links & update copyright year' (https://github.com/iceTwy/linux-dash/compare/19f90d608f...fdd5ba4003)
16:28:09 <joepie91> MK_FG: hai
16:32:20 <tumadre> o/
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16:36:04 <MK_FG> \o
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16:46:54 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03linux-dash on branch 10patch-1: '02Update issue.php' (https://github.com/iceTwy/linux-dash/compare/19f90d608f...4b9c01368e)
16:47:00 <monod> tumadre, you must be italiano!
16:47:16 <tumadre> why do you say that?
16:47:38 <monod> I know your nick, I speak Italian
16:48:55 <monod> *afk*
16:49:56 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03linux-dash on branch 10master: '02Better format for distro name & version' (https://github.com/iceTwy/linux-dash/compare/fdd5ba4003...e2a2aabd56)
16:53:27 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03linux-dash on branch 10master: '02Customize whereis' (https://github.com/iceTwy/linux-dash/compare/e2a2aabd56...f5cc2b921b)
17:01:57 <joepie91> beowulf: happens sometimes :)
17:02:00 <joepie91> .welcome tumadre
17:02:01 <botpie91> tumadre: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
17:02:39 <beowulf> :D
17:05:50 <tumadre> thanks
17:12:34 <monod> gottttta go, cya soon!
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17:13:10 <tumadre> ciao
17:21:07 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03vpslist on branch 10develop: '02Don't autosuggest items that are already in the list of selected items' (https://github.com/joepie91/vpslist/compare/92ee987760...09e7b98ed8)
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17:27:31 *** SpaghettiCode changed the topic to: "Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz"
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17:28:13 <joepie91> post-mortem: hub went down due to a node reboot; likely caused by a kernel panic as a result of the current attack going around towards Kloxo panels
17:28:25 <joepie91> (ircd restarts on a cronjob, that's why it came back :P)
17:30:31 <joepie91> okay
17:30:32 <joepie91> so
17:30:35 <joepie91> expect more potential outages
17:34:58 <ElectRo`> I WANT STABLE IRC
17:35:00 <beowulf> appreciate the update
17:35:01 <ElectRo`> I WANT REFUND
17:35:07 <ElectRo`> :P
17:36:40 <joepie91> ElectRo`: sure, I'll refund 100% of what you paid to use cryto
17:36:41 <joepie91> :)
17:36:46 * joepie91 gives ElectRo` $0.00
17:37:02 * beowulf wants some of that goodness!
17:37:16 <joepie91> but yeah, this kind of thing is why I have the ircd and services on the hub on a cronjob :)
17:37:24 <ElectRo`> FREE 0$ for all!!!!
17:37:28 <joepie91> 6 minute outage for a node reboot isn't bad
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17:58:37 <MK_FG> joepie91, $0 covers a refund, ok, but what about ginormous lost profit?
18:01:28 <joepie91> MK_FG: not covered by SLA, sorry
18:01:45 <joepie91> I suspect the RIAA might be willing to assist you in getting compensated for imaginary lost profits, though
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18:04:37 <MK_FG> Yeah, their math is the best (tm)
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18:05:42 <MK_FG> Also, there should be a proper name for such thing, like "digital murder" or something
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18:54:54 <monod> baaaack
18:55:02 <monod> loggy, pointer?
18:55:02 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-01-28#T18-55-02
18:57:18 <monod> ohhh, lovely linux sysadmin administrative tasks
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19:04:11 <tumadre2> woot woot
19:04:20 <tumadre2> got whonix setup so far
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19:21:55 <Riddler_> hey
19:22:12 <monod> hey
19:24:22 <Riddler_> I'm thinking about downloading Whonix, but I kinda like windows 7. Will I be able to transfer all my files from my windows 7 operating system to Whonix?
19:26:00 <beowulf> No Riddler...Whonix is Linux based
19:27:14 <Riddler_> Damn.
19:27:18 <Riddler_> Ow well.
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22:03:12 <monod> gottttta go!
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22:40:43 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 5 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add AutoSave package', '02Remove readme line', '02Remove name', '02Fix alphabetical ordering of packages', '02Merge pull request #2637 from jamesfzhang/masterAdd AutoSave package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/4eec71511e...0a73427207)
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