Cryto! 4 November 2013
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02:30:31 <living_on_your_wage> so: what are you waiting for ?
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02:30:46 <living_on_your_wage> is the S&P500 gonna crash tomorrow?
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02:30:54 <living_on_your_wage> now THAT's a big question
02:31:07 <living_on_your_wage> no reason for it to crash
02:31:42 <living_on_your_wage> thanks for telling me if I'm making too much noise here
02:33:36 <living_on_your_wage> echo
02:33:45 <living_on_your_wage> [echo]
02:34:01 <living_on_your_wage> say
02:34:08 <living_on_your_wage> nothing
02:37:23 <living_on_your_wage> what I like on this channel is that you can hear your own voice
02:38:05 <living_on_your_wage> BTW I'm glad I've bought a new bluetooth headset
02:38:31 <living_on_your_wage> shitty wealthy country that is
02:38:34 <living_on_your_wage> France
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02:39:33 <living_on_your_wage> shite sry I thought I was on anonnews
02:39:42 <living_on_your_wage> sry for the inconvenience
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02:41:31 <Anonymous> What is this channel for ?
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02:47:16 <Anonymous> anyone here?
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02:50:53 <living_on_your_wage> not me
02:51:12 <living_on_your_wage> go on anonnews if it's for talking about nothing in particular
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04:23:26 <cayce> YAY
04:23:31 <cayce> NIST AUDIT: STARTED
04:23:35 <cayce> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/to-restore-credibility-nist-will-audit-its-standards-development-process/
04:23:59 <cayce> key line
04:24:06 <cayce> ”Based on the public comments and independent review, we will update our process as necessary to make sure it meets our goals for openness and transparency, and leads to the most secure, trustworthy guidance practicable,” NIST stated. It also promised to reevaluate its current cryptographic standards in light of its audit of the standards development process.
04:24:41 <cayce> audit process -> audit things created under old process -> win
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04:43:51 <ShadowDemon> Interesting
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05:24:59 <IgnisInCaelum> Silly PizzaRack, fighting with peer again
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12:21:38 <haless.cryto.net> Users on #crytocc: loggy joepie93 Okapi GHOSTnew iceTwy Zekka LastOneStanding ElectRo` IgnisInCaelum foolex staticsafe tintin lysobit norbert79 nox &MK_FG truetravesty LapAnon connor exakto captaino1vious @SpaghettiCode cayce aHlTat zxcvbnm Asad vld d0wn|off IR601
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12:21:57 <iceTwy> joepie93: what does botpie91 run on
12:22:05 <iceTwy> phenni, jenny?
12:22:06 <joepie93> phenny
12:22:10 <iceTwy> phenny*
12:22:12 <iceTwy> hmph
12:22:14 <iceTwy> phenny is old
12:22:20 <joepie93> iceTwy: as is Linux
12:22:29 <iceTwy> why not use willie? it's a fork of jenny (which is itself a fork of phenny)
12:22:31 <iceTwy> it works wonders
12:22:35 <MK_FG> Linux panics all the time too :P
12:22:38 <iceTwy> lawl
12:22:44 <joepie93> iceTwy: why would I?
12:22:50 <iceTwy> joepie93: so that it stops breaking
12:23:04 <iceTwy> well at least if that's related to phenny
12:23:08 <joepie93> how does using a fork make it stop breaking?
12:23:17 <iceTwy> erm
12:23:21 <iceTwy> code improvements?
12:23:35 <joepie93> that's a bullshit blanket answer and you know it
12:23:42 <iceTwy> hell no, boy
12:23:46 <iceTwy> well maybe
12:23:51 <joepie93> unless you know what is making it break, and know that it is fixed in a fork, it's bullshit to say "hey run this fork instead"
12:24:03 <joepie93> because you don't actually KNOW whether the fork suffers from the same issues or not
12:24:17 <iceTwy> but you do get to know it quickly
12:24:23 <iceTwy> if you test the fork for a few days
12:24:25 <iceTwy> ;)
12:24:30 <MK_FG> I think you still have better chances with developed fork than few-year-old abandonware in general
12:24:33 <joepie93> sure, add more shit to my todo list
12:24:40 <joepie93> it's not as if I wasn't busy already
12:24:44 <joepie93> :|
12:24:57 <iceTwy> joepie93: hmm, willie is just a 'pip install willie'
12:24:57 <vld> who, piebusy?
12:24:57 <vld> nevvah!
12:24:59 <joepie93> "HEY GO SPEND TIME ON SWITCHING TO THIS FORK AND MAKING SURE ALL MODULES ARE COMPATIBLE, MAYBE IT'LL FIX YOUR PROBLEM"
12:25:04 <joepie93> iceTwy...
12:25:07 <joepie93> I have custom modules
12:25:10 <vld> !!!!!!!!!!!!
12:25:14 <vld> I feel spammy today
12:25:17 <iceTwy> joepie93: alright
12:25:29 <iceTwy> vld: 11!
12:25:33 <joepie93> iceTwy: "hey go try $alternative" is almost never a valid answer to something breaking
12:25:35 <joepie93> regardless of topic
12:25:41 <joepie93> especially not if you're talking to busypie
12:25:45 <joepie93> lol
12:26:01 <joepie93> goddamn, scraping this group is taking forever
12:26:05 <iceTwy> joepie93: that statement isn't exactly true
12:26:17 <iceTwy> go try Linux is an answer to Windows
12:26:23 <joepie93> iceTwy: read what I said again
12:26:24 * iceTwy fanboy
12:26:26 <joepie93> you didn't read it well enough
12:26:34 <iceTwy> my point stands, still
12:26:41 <joepie93> no, not really
12:26:41 <iceTwy> but that's my opinion heh
12:26:48 <joepie93> there are no points left that stand
12:27:00 <iceTwy> I wouldn't spend lightyears running a broken software
12:27:12 <joepie93> the "just install willie" was a silly suggestion given the circumstances, and my remark about valid answers explicitly said "almost never" so you didn't have a point there either
12:27:14 <joepie93> [/thread]
12:27:25 <iceTwy> ?
12:27:31 <joepie93> argh
12:27:31 <joepie93> iceTwy
12:27:32 <joepie93> READ
12:27:35 <joepie93> seriously
12:27:47 <iceTwy> erm
12:28:06 <iceTwy> well anyway
12:28:13 <iceTwy> doesn't phenny have logs? that'd be a good start
12:28:48 <joepie93> it does not have any error logs regarding this issue, and I'll investigate what is making it break after I'm done being so stupid busy
12:29:09 <joepie93> until then, I'll just SSH in and restart it when it breaks once every 2 weeks or so
12:29:17 <joepie93> which takes 5 seconds
12:31:48 <iceTwy> oh also joepie93
12:31:54 <iceTwy> do you have any feedback on Iniz
12:32:05 <iceTwy> apparently they've been voted top #3 by LEB
12:32:11 <iceTwy> and thier plans are cheap and amazing
12:32:25 <joepie93> yes, I avoid them because of their TOS and the non-caringness of the owner about interpreting/explaining/changing/clarifying them
12:32:47 <iceTwy> well, their TOS are rather common by the looks of it
12:32:52 <joepie93> not exactly
12:32:52 <iceTwy> as in, similar to a lot of other hosts'
12:32:54 <iceTwy> no?
12:33:35 <joepie93> - Torrents (Personal usage is fine if usage is low)
12:33:35 <joepie93> Our servers are located in the Netherlands & USA and therefore you must comply with the national laws applicable to online services as to where your service is based (we follow US jurisdiction for US services and EU/Netherlands for Amsterdam). As a result torrents, torrent trackers, warez linking/hosting, rapidleech and other such services is prohibited on our servers. Any accounts found hosting such content will be suspended or terminated
12:33:45 <joepie93> A. this doesn't make sense and is contradictory
12:33:57 <joepie93> B. this prohibits legal torrents and suggests that all torrents are illegal
12:34:01 <joepie93> (just one example)
12:34:14 <iceTwy> well yeah that bit looked weird
12:34:24 <joepie93> iceTwy: I've approached him about this
12:34:29 <joepie93> he basically didn't care
12:34:33 <joepie93> and refused to fix/clarify
12:34:33 <iceTwy> lawl
12:34:36 <joepie93> that was the end of it for me
12:34:39 <joepie93> so yeah
12:34:41 <iceTwy> alright
12:34:46 <joepie93> no idea about their actual services
12:36:10 <iceTwy> joepie93: their billing service is annoying though
12:36:19 <iceTwy> I'm trying to order and it's labelling my orders 'fraud'
12:36:24 <iceTwy> so I can't continue/pay
12:36:29 <iceTwy> >_>
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12:54:09 <joepie93> just ran across a very impressive throttling mechanism
12:54:10 <joepie93> on hyves
12:54:13 <joepie93> always get throttled every 60 requests, with a 0.25 sleep it shitcans me for 40 secs, with a 0.5 sleep it shitcans me for 20
12:54:36 <joepie93> it seems to base throttle duration on request rate
12:54:42 <joepie93> and it's extremely consistent
12:55:38 <iceTwy> 60 reqs? good luck with archiving that
12:57:06 <joepie93> iceTwy: eh, this is a piece of cake
12:57:08 <joepie93> compared to isohunt
12:57:08 <joepie93> lol
12:57:27 <joepie93> they shitcanned you for 20 MINUTES when you exceeded like 1 req/sec
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14:23:51 <iceTwy> what the actual
14:23:53 <iceTwy> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/
14:23:55 <iceTwy> .title
14:23:56 <botpie91> iceTwy: Meet “badBIOS,” the mysterious Mac and PC malware that jumps airgaps | Ars Technica
14:24:05 <iceTwy> "badBIOS," as Ruiu dubbed the malware, has the ability to use high-frequency transmissions passed between computer speakers and microphones to bridge airgaps.
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14:28:50 <MK_FG> It's been trending for like a week, yet no statements from AV firms or anyone else but that guy, fishy
14:29:23 <MK_FG> Other infosec people seem to trust him to not be a troll though ;)
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14:34:47 <iceTwy> MK_FG: yeah apparently
14:35:05 <iceTwy> MK_FG: well I mean, he's studying into it so at least he's not just throwing claims out there without proofs
14:35:18 <iceTwy> but his studies have to be peer-reviewed, so that's about it
14:35:28 <iceTwy> however if it happens to be true, heh, that's a heck of a virus
14:36:39 <MK_FG> Don't think it was stated anywhere that it replicates itself over any net exploit though
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14:36:55 <MK_FG> So should be kinda isolated to people who pass usb sticks around ;)
14:37:23 <cayce> MK_FG:) there have been teardowns of it already
14:37:34 <cayce> both of the premise of the post and everything else
14:37:38 <cayce> by infosec people
14:37:48 <MK_FG> You mean saying that it's untrue?
14:37:55 <cayce> roughly, yes
14:38:04 <MK_FG> Could be, too, I guess
14:38:05 <cayce> there's more nuance, but I didn't care to read
14:38:16 <cayce> $searchengine is your friend
14:38:31 <MK_FG> That's such a dick move :P
14:39:13 <cayce> http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/189036-nsa-chief-likely-to-be-stripped-of-cyber-war-powers?utm_content=buffer994b1&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
14:39:19 <cayce> oo oh oh ho
14:39:22 <cayce> the hammer falls
14:41:16 <cayce> hmm
14:41:23 <cayce> my teacher is trying to figure out how to "get on twitter"
14:41:27 <cayce> this will be exciting
14:41:57 <cayce> her reasoning involved "as a historian..."
14:42:55 <cayce> MK_FG:) hi yes hello, this is doge http://zachbruggeman.me/dogescript/
14:44:29 <iceTwy> doge script?!
14:44:35 <iceTwy> I HAVE TO SEE IT
14:44:48 <cayce> really really
14:45:06 <cayce> I have to say, that's one of the only memes in the last few years I enjoy
14:45:22 <cayce> aside from the "what my friends think I do, what my mother thinks I do, what I actually do" 6 box meme
14:45:49 <cayce> but I like that one because it applies in most languages
14:46:00 <cayce> which makes it awesome because I've found them in french and russian and shit
14:49:59 <MK_FG> Hm, don't think I encountered that meme before
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14:55:44 <cayce> I dunno what its name is, unfortunately (they do all have names, don't they?)
14:58:03 <cayce> MK_FG:) http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-people-think-i-do-what-i-really-do
14:58:23 <MK_FG> Oh, no, I meant dodgescript
14:58:43 <MK_FG> The latter one is quite common ;)
14:59:15 <cayce> oh >_>
15:01:37 <cayce> I love how we have googletagmanager and adobetagmanager now
15:01:52 <cayce> cause adobe bought an analytics firm
15:08:11 <cayce> so, did anybody hear about the girl who dressed up as a boston bombing victim for halloween
15:08:32 <cayce> I can't stop laughing when I say that
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15:08:50 <cayce> the internet is still having a conniption about it
15:08:57 <cayce> too soon, miss, too soon
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15:45:03 <cayce> NP: [Tape Five - Pantaloons (feat. Yuliet Topaz)] [Tonight Josephine!] [880kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
15:46:59 <cayce> soon: linux 3.12
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15:51:08 <iceTwy> cayce: watnew in 3.12?
15:51:37 <cayce> shittons of drivers and small fixes, but more importantly a patch landed for aggressive extent caching for ext4
15:51:52 <iceTwy> oo
15:51:55 <iceTwy> sweet
15:51:57 <iceTwy> link?
15:52:02 <cayce> whatever the fuck that is, it works around a bug that was baked into ext4's spec, and increases significantly the performance of read heavy loads
15:52:22 <cayce> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwMjg
15:52:23 <iceTwy> ooh
15:52:30 <iceTwy> faster archive reading maybe?
15:52:36 <cayce> faster anything reading
15:52:40 <cayce> faster reading
15:52:57 <cayce> this box already feels faster now that I'm not on ntfs
15:53:26 <cayce> when copying files the load is higher, but that's because it's actually copying the file not dribbling data from one disk to another
15:53:33 * cayce swears at ntfs
15:53:49 <iceTwy> NTFS IS GUD 4EVA
15:53:50 <iceTwy> !111
15:53:58 <iceTwy> cayce: have you compiled the kernel yourself?
15:54:07 <cayce> it's compiling as we speak
15:54:48 <cayce> and I've compiled the last 5 kernels I've used too
15:54:50 <cayce> so yeah
15:54:52 <cayce> it's dick easy
15:57:05 <cayce> this is a decent guide, but even they overcomplicate it
15:57:06 <cayce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
15:57:36 <cayce> but I've been making my own .config
15:57:51 <cayce> so complexity is relative I suppose
16:00:01 <cayce> I download, extract, copy my .config into the folder, "yes '' | make oldconfig", make -j2 deb-pkg
16:00:03 <cayce> done
16:00:31 <cayce> then dpkg -i each of the debs
16:00:33 <cayce> :)
16:01:44 <cayce> well that was fast, only 15m for a build
16:02:00 <cayce> damn thing's done
16:02:01 <cayce> heh
16:02:14 <cayce> now I just have to install it tonight and undo the fuckery that is my graphics drivers
16:02:53 <cayce> NP: [Brenda Boykin - Hard Swing Travellin' Man] [The Art Of Electro Swing] [919kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:07:27 <cayce> hmm
16:07:35 <cayce> seems maybe nvidia drivers don't work on 3.12?
16:08:23 <cayce> I suppose I'll find out tonight >_>
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16:15:16 <iceTwy> cayce: is it such a madness to run the mainline version of the kernel on a server
16:15:37 <cayce> no?
16:15:54 <cayce> I mean just be conservative about how you build it so you don't brick it
16:16:35 <cayce> a working server is probably not the place to do make localmodconfig without some sort of remote hands support or recovery console
16:16:50 <cayce> (that's how I first built this kernel)
16:17:10 <cayce> (it's why my kernels are 2-3mb instead of 10x that)
16:17:34 <iceTwy> hmm
16:17:37 <iceTwy> interestang
16:17:38 <iceTwy> oh
16:17:41 <iceTwy> lol
16:17:48 <iceTwy> the kernel provides drivers for wiimotes
16:18:11 <iceTwy> such development
16:18:13 <iceTwy> very torvalds
16:18:15 <iceTwy> wow
16:18:53 <cayce> :P
16:19:27 <ElectRo`> also provides drivers for 360 controller
16:20:04 <cayce> yup
16:20:21 <cayce> "If you build it, they will come"
16:22:29 <ElectRo`> it was nice having them in kernel instead of third party
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16:37:25 <cayce> NP: [Linkin Park - Bleed It Out] [Minutes To Midnight] [997kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
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16:42:29 <MK_FG> https://github.com/mk-fg/convergence/issues/1#issuecomment-27699547 Mozilla devs HAET windows :P
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17:12:31 <cayce> MK_FG:) has someone tried to make convergence work again? because it was broken for me for months
17:13:24 <MK_FG> Heh, well, it always worked for me...
17:13:46 <MK_FG> Because of https://github.com/mk-fg/convergence#changes-from-upstream
17:14:00 <MK_FG> Basically, it's me who "tried" :P
17:14:19 <cayce> ahh
17:14:20 <MK_FG> And it works fine on linux, but windows is apparently had bad luck
17:14:32 <MK_FG> *grammar
17:14:33 <cayce> it hasn't worked for me on any os
17:14:42 <cayce> I suspect it's because it doesn't actually support past ff17
17:14:48 <MK_FG> Yeah, original fork is abandoned
17:15:01 <cayce> :|
17:15:18 <MK_FG> But my fork should work fine
17:15:30 <cayce> on linux
17:15:31 <cayce> :D
17:15:55 <MK_FG> Right, mozilla shafted windows addon devs, it seems ;(
17:16:29 <cayce> excellent
17:16:45 <cayce> linux master race can begin takeover in 3.. 2.. 1..
17:17:04 * cayce makes inception noise
17:17:27 * cayce hires morgan freeman to narrate
17:17:30 <MK_FG> It's kinda total bullshit, I couldn't really believe that such mature thing as ff could go and say "herp derp, we don't give a fuck, we now ship one set of libs on linux and other on win"
17:17:52 <MK_FG> "...and yeah, we know you use them in addons, suck it"
17:18:19 <MK_FG> Who does that!?
17:18:41 <cayce> yeah it's mostly fucked from a cross platform standpoint
17:18:53 <cayce> I suspect it's much easier to maintain one copy versus two+
17:19:29 <MK_FG> Indeed, it should be!
17:19:44 <MK_FG> So why did they made two sets of different stuff...
17:23:49 <cayce> :/
17:24:56 <MK_FG> My conclusion is that they HAET windows :P
17:26:42 <cayce> I won't disagree with their haet
17:26:49 <cayce> but still, it's sort of silly :D
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17:44:55 <Macbeth> Hey
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18:01:53 <beowulf> Hello
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18:04:06 <joepie93> man, today is a shit day
18:04:24 <Macbeth> what's the matter?
18:05:31 <joepie93> everything
18:05:36 <joepie93> :|
18:06:17 <Macbeth> xD
18:06:19 <Macbeth> :(
18:07:56 <beowulf> No bueno
18:08:29 <Macbeth> Waiting for my DDG teeshirt to come
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18:43:30 <DrWhat> https://github.com/limetext/lime
18:53:32 <DrWhat> Anyoe need web ui resources
18:53:36 <DrWhat> I found this deal
18:53:37 <DrWhat> http://www.inkydeals.com/deal/inkys-free-web-design-bundle-471-premium-resources/
18:53:43 <DrWhat> 100% off
18:53:57 <joepie93> DrWhat: thanks for the lime thing, bookmarked
18:54:06 <joepie93> looks like people are finally starting to work on better IDEs/editors
18:54:07 <DrWhat> joepie93 no problem :)
18:54:14 <DrWhat> Also
18:54:20 <joepie93> first Brackets, now Lime...
18:54:23 <DrWhat> http://www.lighttable.com/
18:54:41 <joepie93> whoa, inky thing is nice also
18:54:50 <DrWhat> Ikr
18:55:04 <DrWhat> Im googling around for shit
18:55:11 <DrWhat> and finding lot of juicy stuff
18:56:26 <DrWhat> http://www.inkydeals.com/freebies/
18:56:33 <DrWhat> theres lots a nice looking UI's there
18:56:48 <DrWhat> flat UI (metro) Is what im downloading now
19:01:00 * joepie93 downloads ALL THE FREEBIES
19:01:26 <joepie93> bookmarked lighttable also
19:01:53 <joepie93> hm
19:01:56 <joepie93> lighttable is not FOSS?
19:02:25 <DrWhat> XD
19:02:39 <DrWhat> Now im useful
19:03:28 <DrWhat> Lime is accualy Trending today
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19:03:48 <DrWhat> watch and star it
19:03:52 <DrWhat> I did
19:04:51 <Macbeth> nice link to limetable
19:04:55 <Macbeth> looks nice some good stuff
19:05:05 eggtimer (eggtimer@cryto-B12FCBD3.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc
19:05:52 <Macbeth> http://vimeo.com/40281991
19:05:53 <Macbeth> .title
19:05:55 <botpie91> Macbeth: Light Table - a new IDE on Vimeo
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19:09:02 <joepie93> DrWhat: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/a-whole-new-world
19:09:21 <DrWhat> O_o
19:09:28 <DrWhat> I dont want to distroy my software :(
19:09:30 <DrWhat> thats mean
19:09:31 <joepie93> you will want to watch that
19:09:31 <joepie93> :)
19:09:42 <DrWhat> I love my software
19:10:00 <DrWhat> I would but
19:10:01 <DrWhat> you know
19:10:02 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/21ws1a
19:10:04 <DrWhat> ..>
19:10:20 <joepie93> just download it..
19:10:22 <complex> ehm, guys, i think i maybe came up with a.. cool encryption code :P
19:10:28 <DrWhat> Why
19:10:30 * joepie93 frowns
19:10:40 <joepie93> complex: incoming warnings and red flags
19:10:46 <DrWhat> complex I love cryptograhy :D
19:10:55 <joepie93> don't roll your own production encryption code unless you are an expert at crypto
19:11:01 <joepie93> hacking with it for personal projects is fine
19:11:05 <joepie93> but crypto is very hard to do right
19:11:19 <joepie93> and you should always use established and peer-reviewed libraries for production code
19:11:22 <DrWhat> Is it a hashsum?
19:11:23 <joepie93> end warnings and red flags
19:11:25 <joepie93> :)
19:11:53 <DrWhat> nist is paying $300,000 to who ever can come up with a secure SHA3
19:11:55 <Macbeth> complex: I'm interested
19:12:16 <complex> say you have 1 million different irrational numbers with x number of digits. you randomly pick one of them and you are putting two and two digits of that irrational number into an element of an vector. each chunk of two-digits are doing the caesar cipher on one letter
19:12:55 <complex> say you are going to encrypt a message containing a letters, then you need irrational numbers of length 2a
19:12:56 <joepie93> aren't caesar ciphers vulnerable to statistical analysis?
19:13:06 <Macbeth> Yes
19:13:19 <complex> i dont have a clue, caesar ciphers are itself very easy to decrypt
19:13:22 <DrWhat> I like encryptions what output numbers :D
19:13:45 <Macbeth> I'm just staying w/ PgP
19:14:00 <DrWhat> Im messing around with mcrypt
19:14:03 <complex> but there are no relation with the letters i mentioned
19:14:15 <complex> * in the encryption i mentioned
19:14:20 <DrWhat> https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/Stuff/blob/master/cryptest.php
19:14:40 <complex> it is really just an extension of the vigeneres cipher, where you are encrypting a text with a tiny vector
19:16:15 <Macbeth> DrWhat: Thanks for the inky link. Very useful.
19:16:22 <Macbeth> I'm extracting it.
19:16:25 <DrWhat> yup
19:17:48 <Macbeth> http://www.inkydeals.com/flat-user-interface-set-download/
19:17:49 <complex> encrypt "abcdefgh" using [1,2,3] gives [a+1,b+2,c+3,d+1,e+2,f+3,g+1,h+2] but with my method, for example with pi as a random irrational number, you get [a+31,b+41,c+59,d+26,e+53,f+58,g+97,h+93]
19:17:52 <Macbeth> I like this site
19:18:26 <complex> of course, you shouldnt use the same irrational number more than once, that will result in weak encryption :P
19:19:26 <complex> (and i btw havent learned much about statistical analysis so i cant reflect on that)
19:22:47 <DrWhat> Hmmm
19:22:56 <DrWhat> I need to learn how to PSD to html
19:23:48 <lysobit> It can still be analysed. If you were for example, encrypting a human-written message, you can statistically decode based on the number of occurrances of each number
19:24:41 <lysobit> (it's still a substitution cipher)
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19:34:56 <joepie93> ohai pzuraq
19:35:47 <pzuraq> ohai joepie93
19:35:55 <joepie93> .whois endernode.net
19:35:56 <botpie91> Domain 04endernode.net, registered on 042012-08-24T00:00:00 via 041 & 1 INTERNET AG, expires on 042013-08-24T00:00:00, nameservers are 04A.NS36.DE, B.NS36.DE, contact e-mails are 04not available
19:35:57 <pzuraq> You seem to have aged backwards
19:36:06 <joepie93> mmm, weird
19:36:28 <pzuraq> also I'm building an App with Meteor :D
19:36:42 <joepie93> pzuraq: aging backwards... happens
19:36:43 <joepie93> also, Meteor?
19:37:28 <pzuraq> http://meteor.com
19:38:05 <pzuraq> it is built on Node.js, philosophy is the same code runs on the client and server
19:38:25 <joepie93> hmm
19:38:26 <joepie93> notbad
19:38:53 <pzuraq> Best part about this is it keeps all clients in sync by default
19:39:01 <pzuraq> :D I'm building a project manager
19:39:21 <complex> lysobit: what
19:40:41 <complex> lysobit: my thought is that the amount of each number mod 26 will be approximately the same
19:41:31 <DrWhat> node.i-zed.net also runs on node
19:41:35 <lysobit> <complex> encrypt "abcdefgh" using [1,2,3] gives [a+1,b+2,c+3,d+1,e+2,f+3,g+1,h+2] but with my method, for example with pi as a random irrational number, you get [a+31,b+41,c+59,d+26,e+53,f+58,g+97,h+93]
19:41:50 <lysobit> you're replacing the characters with the same numbers?
19:42:08 <DrWhat> ^ more like an encoding then an ecryption
19:42:27 <complex> given that you have a text in 1000 letters, then you will need at least one irrational numbers with 2000 digits
19:43:14 <complex> a = 0, b = 1, ..., z = 25
19:44:16 <joepie93> DrWhat: it's not an encoding if you have a secret key
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19:44:31 <complex> if you have a text in say 500000 letters, i assume you will get approximately 1/26 on each character
19:44:32 <joepie93> and I'd imagine the secret key here would be the irrational number(s)
19:44:38 <complex> yup
19:44:52 <joepie93> thus it's encryption, but seems like very basic encryption
19:44:55 <joepie93> that wouldn't be hard to break
19:45:01 <complex> maybe not
19:45:18 <complex> but it is at least an extension of something that is very easy to break :P
19:45:32 <lysobit> What's the advantage of using irrational numbers, which aren't even random, for a encryption key, when you can use an actual cryptographically secure pseudo random number generator?
19:45:56 <complex> that will work as well
19:46:00 <complex> even better
19:46:15 <complex> irrational numbers was the first thing that came to my mind where the digits occuring are pretty random
19:46:42 <lysobit> not really. The very fact that it's an irrational number means that the next digits can easily be calculated using some sort of algorithm
19:47:40 <joepie93> iceTwy: your bin is broken
19:47:47 <joepie93> botpie91, tell iceTwy that his bin is broken
19:47:48 <botpie91> joepie93: I'll pass that on when iceTwy is around.
19:48:26 <complex> lysobit: yeah you can always do it by continuous fraction
19:49:43 <lysobit> it's still not random though and the sequence would be predetermined. it wouldn't be considered a cryptographically secure PRNG
19:50:26 <lysobit> you mean continued fraction?
19:50:57 <complex> the imporant thing was the idea, not my bad attempt to come up with a long digit-number that was random-looking
19:50:58 <complex> and yes
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19:53:05 <lysobit> if you're interested you should look into this ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator
19:54:53 <complex> you look good on russian today
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19:55:01 <lysobit> thx bb
19:55:40 <joepie93> lol
19:55:53 <joepie93> this turned from cryptography into dating in under a minute?
19:55:53 <joepie93> :D
19:55:58 <lysobit> hehe
19:56:04 <joepie93> cryptodating!
19:57:27 <complex> it was an merely an observation
19:59:06 <joepie93> that's what they all say! :P
19:59:23 <complex> what is entropy related to compsci?
19:59:54 <lysobit> btw the system you describe (called "one-time pad") is actually impossible to crack if used properly with a proper key. it was used as early in World War 2 by the British to encrypt messages
20:00:13 <complex> really?
20:00:25 <complex> col
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20:01:01 <Kulverstukas> oh hello
20:01:14 <complex> well, they didnt have proper computers under ww2, so it isnt that much of a big deal actually
20:01:20 <Kulverstukas> I was told by joepie93 that this is where the leets talk
20:01:22 <Kulverstukas> so, here I am.
20:01:26 <joepie93> ohai Kulverstukas, welcome to #crytocc, please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and please read the channel rules in the topic :)
20:01:27 <Kulverstukas> commence the leetness
20:01:48 <joepie93> [/boilerplate]
20:01:57 <Kulverstukas> lol ok, I need a script to add [off] to every line I write
20:01:58 <Kulverstukas> haha
20:02:02 <joepie93> rather not :)
20:02:03 <complex> okaaay, "more entropy" is synonym to "more certainy in a measurement" okay.
20:02:07 <joepie93> public logging is for a reason
20:02:15 <joepie93> automatic documentation, and helps to keep things civil
20:02:21 <Kulverstukas> whatever, like I give anyway...
20:02:29 <Kulverstukas> so what is this channel about?
20:02:31 <joepie93> but yeah, be sure to read the channel rules in the topic etc. etc.
20:02:47 <joepie93> Kulverstukas: officially developing, in practice it's a lot of general tech stuff and off-topic
20:03:07 <joepie93> s/developing/development/
20:03:27 <Kulverstukas> sounds cool
20:03:34 <lysobit> it's about CC
20:03:37 <Kulverstukas> hopefully I can make some friends here :)
20:04:24 <Kulverstukas> I hate public transport...
20:04:38 <Kulverstukas> bums with fleas all over :/
20:04:54 <Kulverstukas> once I saw a lice infested bum sitting just 1 seat infront of me
20:05:12 <Kulverstukas> once I saw his head which was filled with lice, I ran to the back of the bus
20:05:16 <Kulverstukas> like I never ran before
20:05:41 <joepie93> Kulverstukas: where do you live?
20:05:44 <Kulverstukas> that was some stuff straight from a horror movie
20:05:46 <joepie93> I can't say I recognize this
20:05:46 <joepie93> :P
20:05:48 <Kulverstukas> lithuania, bro
20:05:50 <complex> i will take cryptography next autumn btw. will be cool. going into abstract algebra upcomming spring :D
20:06:05 <iceTwy> joepie93: yes I know my pastebin is broken
20:06:05 <botpie91> iceTwy: 19:47Z <joepie93> tell iceTwy that his bin is broken
20:06:10 <iceTwy> it's not broken, actually
20:06:15 <iceTwy> it's just that I've switched VPS's
20:06:19 <iceTwy> gotta set it up on Iniz
20:06:33 <iceTwy> buuut I've got 2 assignments to hand in for tomorrow
20:06:35 <iceTwy> so
20:06:41 <iceTwy> icebin will have to wait I'm afraid
20:08:07 <iceTwy> oh wait
20:08:08 botpie91 has quit (Client exited)
20:08:09 <iceTwy> fuck
20:08:11 <iceTwy> noooooooo :(
20:08:14 <iceTwy> joepie93: ^^^
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20:08:20 <joepie93> yes
20:08:22 <joepie93> working on it
20:08:24 <iceTwy> okay
20:08:25 <joepie93> .welcome joepie91
20:08:25 <botpie91> NameError: global name 'sender' is not defined (file "/home/phenny/phenny/modules/crytocc.py", line 16, in welcome)
20:08:27 <joepie93> nice try
20:08:31 <iceTwy> I've just realized one thing
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20:08:37 <iceTwy> global vars in Python?
20:08:39 <iceTwy> hnng
20:08:41 <iceTwy> hnng
20:08:43 <iceTwy> very hnng
20:08:46 <iceTwy> but heh
20:08:54 <joepie93> .welcome joepie91
20:08:56 botpie91 (botpie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc
20:08:56 <joepie93> oops
20:08:57 <joepie93> too fast
20:08:57 <joepie93> lol
20:08:58 <joepie93> .welcome joepie91
20:08:58 <botpie91> welcome: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:09:02 <joepie93> uh..
20:09:10 <iceTwy> welcome welcome please
20:09:14 <iceTwy> be polite for welcome's sake!
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20:09:28 <joepie93> .welcome joepie91
20:09:28 <botpie91> joepie91: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:09:32 <iceTwy> .welcome iceTwy
20:09:32 <botpie91> iceTwy: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:09:39 <joepie93> alright then
20:09:41 <iceTwy> publicly?
20:09:50 <iceTwy> hm
20:09:51 <joepie93> oh god
20:09:53 <joepie93> not again
20:09:53 <joepie93> lol
20:10:01 <joepie93> publicly and publically are both valid spellings
20:10:17 <iceTwy> yeah it seems to
20:10:19 <joepie93> right
20:10:19 <joepie93> so
20:10:20 <iceTwy> so*
20:10:22 <joepie93> .welcome Kulverstukas
20:10:23 <botpie91> Kulverstukas: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:10:25 <joepie93> there we go :)
20:10:30 <joepie93> saves me a lot of typing
20:10:30 <iceTwy> let's try one thing joepie93
20:10:39 <iceTwy> .welcome non_existing_user
20:10:40 <botpie91> non_existing_user: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:11:03 <joepie93> okay
20:11:04 <iceTwy> ^ imo it shouldn't return anything for a non-existing user
20:11:04 <joepie93> spam over
20:11:05 <Kulverstukas> .welcome some_word_bad_word_list_up_for_kicking
20:11:05 <botpie91> some_word_bad_word_list_up_for_kicking: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:11:16 <joepie93> uh..
20:11:20 <joepie93> .welcome fed
20:11:21 <botpie91> fed: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:11:26 <joepie93> lol oops
20:11:26 <Kulverstukas> :D
20:11:28 <iceTwy> haha
20:11:38 <joepie93> perhaps I should make botpie have +o
20:11:43 <beowulf> lol
20:11:44 <iceTwy> perhaps yes
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20:11:48 <Kulverstukas> that'd be a good idea
20:11:57 <joepie93> need to recover my nickserv login first though
20:12:05 <joepie93> or have mk_fg do it
20:12:09 <joepie93> MK_FG!
20:12:12 <joepie93> halp!
20:12:28 <MK_FG> \o/
20:12:29 <joepie93> thank you
20:12:30 <joepie93> .welcome fed
20:12:30 <botpie91> fed: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:12:38 <joepie93> :(
20:12:42 <joepie93> I think it needs to be on axx list
20:12:44 <Kulverstukas> no one can go against chanserv
20:12:56 <joepie93> sec
20:12:59 <iceTwy> joepie93: it actually looks really weird to see your name prefixed with an @!
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20:14:31 <joepie91> MK_FG: can you add it to access list?
20:14:36 <joepie91> - NickServ: botpie91!botpie91@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP has just authenticated as you (botpie91)
20:14:37 <joepie91> err..
20:14:43 <joepie91> lol
20:15:01 <complex> how does boetpie work?
20:15:08 <MK_FG> I dunno how to do that ;)
20:15:13 <joepie91> complex: that's a very unclear question
20:15:14 <joepie91> MK_FG: boo!
20:15:25 <complex> like, do you have a server that is on 24/7?
20:15:31 <MK_FG> What, no one ever gives moe op!
20:15:36 <MK_FG> *me
20:15:39 <complex> (without having a clue how bots on IRC works)
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20:16:02 <joepie91> /msg ChanServ AOP #crytocc ADD botpie91
20:16:04 <MK_FG> I have znc, yeah
20:16:06 <joepie91> @ MK_FG
20:16:14 <joepie91> complex: I do
20:16:17 <joepie91> wha
20:16:19 <joepie91> oh
20:16:22 <joepie91> I'm still authed as botpie
20:16:23 <joepie91> lol
20:16:32 <joepie91> I'm a botpie!
20:16:38 <joepie91> complex: I have a bunch of VPSes
20:16:40 <joepie91> one of them runs botpie
20:16:43 <joepie91> fed
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20:16:44 <joepie91> hm
20:16:46 <joepie91> fed
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20:16:48 <joepie91> :|
20:16:57 <complex> oh
20:17:02 <joepie91> /msg ChanServ SOP #crytocc ADD botpie91
20:17:03 <joepie91> @ MK_FG
20:17:04 <joepie91> try that
20:17:19 <joepie91> oh, didn't expect that to actually work lol
20:17:21 <complex> right, now i get it
20:17:22 <joepie91> fed
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20:17:24 <joepie91> what
20:17:25 <joepie91> fed
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20:17:26 <joepie91> wtf
20:17:38 <MK_FG> I've no idea what's happening here :P
20:17:48 <beowulf> lol right
20:17:52 <complex> but would it not be better to just buy a shitbad server to store in your home? :P its not botpie has to be secret or something
20:18:00 <complex> *its not like
20:18:37 <complex> or dunno, maybe it is good to have the log encrypted when you are being raided or something lulz
20:19:00 <joepie91> /msg ChanServ SET #crytocc DONTKICKOPS ON
20:19:03 <joepie91> @ MK_FG
20:19:14 <joepie91> complex: why would I? a VPS is much cheaper
20:19:20 <MK_FG> Says "-ChanServ- Invalid command. Use /msg ChanServ help for a command listing."
20:19:21 <joepie91> plus more stable
20:19:23 <joepie91> what
20:19:30 <joepie91> oh
20:19:35 <joepie91> /msg BotServ SET #crytocc DONTKICKOPS ON
20:19:49 <MK_FG> "-BotServ- Invalid command. Use /msg BotServ help for a command listing." ;)
20:19:59 <iceTwy> TrollServ - always here to troll you
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20:20:20 <joepie91> wtf
20:20:29 <complex> joepie91: if you say so
20:20:29 <MK_FG> "The following subcommands are available: FANTASY Enable fantasy commands." o_O
20:20:29 <lay> oops
20:20:50 <joepie91> starting to suspect I don't have this module enabled...
20:20:53 <beowulf> 0_o
20:21:24 <MK_FG> Don't you have same caps after /op?
20:22:58 <lay> zzz
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20:25:13 <MK_FG> I'm also of to zZzzZZz land
20:25:16 <MK_FG> *off
20:25:50 <joepie91> MK_FG: wait!
20:25:55 <joepie91> actually nvm
20:25:57 <joepie91> I have SOP now
20:25:59 <joepie91> so I can fix things myself
20:26:02 <joepie91> MK_FG: goodnight :P
20:26:10 <MK_FG> ZzZzZ
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20:38:43 <lysobit> .welcome i is awesomes0,0
20:38:44 <botpie91> i is awesomes0,0: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:39:04 <lysobit> .welcome !op lysobit
20:39:05 <botpie91> !op lysobit : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:39:24 * joepie91 sighs at people trying to break the bot
20:39:31 <lysobit> Why?
20:39:37 <lysobit> you should be flattered
20:39:45 <joepie91> I would be if it were my bot :P
20:40:26 <joepie91> .welcome !kick lysobit
20:40:26 <botpie91> !kick lysobit: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:40:30 <joepie91> aw
20:40:34 <joepie91> .welcome !kick lysobit
20:40:34 <botpie91> !kick lysobit: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:40:36 <joepie91> no?
20:40:39 <complex> i wonder if the leader of the NSA thinks that people in a country should have the power and the possibility to revolt if a country is abusing the power
20:40:48 <lysobit> .welcome !kick joepie91
20:40:49 <botpie91> !kick joepie91 : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:41:10 <lysobit> .welcome !kick lysobit
20:41:10 <botpie91> !kick lysobit : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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20:41:24 <complex> a follow-up question would be if a possible revolt would be characterized as terrorism
20:41:25 <joepie91> damn you :P
20:41:47 <lysobit> also
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20:41:58 <lysobit> loggy doesn't even show /kicks
20:41:58 <lysobit> 20:41:10 <botpie91> !kick lysobit : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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20:42:09 <joepie91> it doesn't?
20:42:10 <joepie91> wat
20:42:13 <lysobit> loggy, pointer?
20:42:13 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-04#T20-42-13
20:42:36 <complex> i actually had one in my class that was VERY upset with the military. his primary goal in life was to become a wartactician
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20:42:39 <lysobit> .welcome s
20:42:39 <botpie91> s: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
20:42:41 <joepie91> wtf
20:42:42 <joepie91> it should be showing
20:43:05 <lysobit> .py "!kick lysobit"
20:43:06 <botpie91> !kick lysobit
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20:43:14 <joepie91> ...
20:43:16 <lysobit> heh
20:44:07 <joepie91> lysobit: try again
20:44:13 <lysobit> .py 1
20:44:13 <botpie91> 1
20:44:21 <lysobit> .py "!kick joepie91"
20:44:22 <botpie91> !kick joepie91
20:44:25 <joepie91> :)
20:44:30 <lysobit> .py "!kick lysobit"
20:44:31 <botpie91> !kick lysobit
20:44:54 <lysobit> .py "!deop"
20:44:54 <botpie91> !deop
20:44:59 <joepie91> <PRIVATE:joepie91>set #crytocc fantasy off
20:45:00 <joepie91> - BotServ: Fantasy mode is now OFF on channel #crytocc.
20:45:24 <joepie91> :P
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20:49:58 <joepie91> DrWhat: https://archive.org/details/StrangeLoop2012-AWholeNewWorld
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20:53:34 <iceTwy> HOLY CRAP
20:53:39 <iceTwy> cc cayce https://twitter.com/steam_games/status/397465166075269120
20:53:45 <iceTwy> .tw https://twitter.com/steam_games/status/397465166075269120
20:53:46 <botpie91> Now Available for Linux - Metro: Last Light: http://bit.ly/1cItBmD (@steam_games)
20:54:13 <beowulf> Nice find iceTwy
20:54:54 <iceTwy> haha yeah beowulf
20:57:23 <joepie91> !
20:59:55 <iceTwy> also, wtf! joepie91 http://www.coindesk.com/btc-china-beats-mt-gox-bitstamp-become-worlds-1-bitcoin-exchange/
21:00:00 <iceTwy> .title
21:00:01 <botpie91> iceTwy: BTC China beats Mt. Gox and Bitstamp to become the world's No. 1 bitcoin exchange
21:00:04 <joepie91> yes
21:00:08 <joepie91> that was to be expected
21:00:18 <iceTwy> dayum. Chinese people are using BTC then
21:00:19 <iceTwy> that's good
21:00:25 <joepie91> have been for some time :)
21:01:06 <joepie91> anyway
21:01:06 <joepie91> sleep
21:01:06 <iceTwy> what's an exchange that does not require personal info?
21:01:14 <joepie91> iceTwy: none, probably
21:01:17 <joepie91> use localbitcoins
21:01:25 <iceTwy> yeah
21:01:26 <joepie91> https://localbitcoins.com/
21:01:30 <iceTwy> ikr I know it
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21:10:56 <complex> i recommend people to play through Metal Gear Solid 4 btw :) that is the future of war
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22:55:56 <x> :3
22:55:59 <x> mama <33
22:56:05 <x> nox <33
22:56:12 * x licks lysobit
22:56:42 <mama> x <33333 also nox <33333
22:56:52 <x> :3
22:56:56 <mama> XD
22:57:02 <x> how r u doing?
22:58:01 <mama> fine, working, and you?
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22:59:47 <mama> x we have two new videos to watch and spread, check them at #freeanons
23:00:03 <x> okay :3
23:00:11 <x> and I'm well here :)
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23:00:26 <x> still waiting on my proto's to come in
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23:00:57 <mama> exiting moments!! hahah
23:01:18 <mama> send me one proto ;)
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23:47:59 <Macbeth> =VTU/
23:48:01 <Macbeth> Did i just paste tht in main chat?
23:48:07 <Macbeth> I'm sorry, i honestly meant it to be a pm
23:48:27 <nox> mama,
23:48:28 <nox> mama,
23:48:29 <nox> mama,
23:48:29 <nox> mama,
23:48:29 <nox> mama,
23:48:37 <nox> lol mama
23:48:41 <nox> err Macbeth
23:48:44 <Macbeth> i know
23:48:45 <mama> nox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:48:48 <nox> hey <3
23:48:58 <mama> hello <3
23:49:09 <nox> missed you
23:49:24 <mama> me too, how are you?
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