Cryto! 28 October 2013

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03:30:40 <haless.cryto.net> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz
03:30:40 <haless.cryto.net> Users on #crytocc: loggy fr0z3n Zekka lelelel ack zxcvbnm joepie91 Baklava GHOSTnew tintin IR601 mikaa lisizki &MK_FG captainobvious ElectRo` norbert79 botpie91 brenden foolex vld staticsafe d0wn_blog Asad aHlTat
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04:27:00 <Macbeth> PGP is working like a charm!
04:44:28 <Zekka> Congrats. I haven't actually ever used pgp
04:44:45 <Macbeth> Hey, thanks!
04:44:59 <Macbeth> If you want some help, I newbed my way through it and I know it now :P
04:51:36 <Zekka> Thanks, I might take you up on that sometime
04:51:43 <Macbeth> awesome :D
04:51:46 <Zekka> haven't ever actually needed to use it but who knows what the future holds
04:51:52 <Macbeth> yea
04:52:00 <Macbeth> I have anonymous email and personal email
04:52:07 <Macbeth> pgp is for Anon email.
04:53:24 <Zekka> It's the sort of software I'm pretty sure I'll end up using eventually
04:53:39 <Macbeth> yeah
04:53:52 <Macbeth> with the nsa, our grand mothers will end up using it eventually
04:53:53 <Macbeth> :P
04:54:38 <joepie91> okay, hub will be coming back in a few minutes
04:54:49 <Macbeth> gr8
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04:55:35 <joepie91> theeeeere we go
04:55:38 <joepie91> welcome back everybody
04:55:45 <joepie91> including lysobit who was bitching at me to fix cryto
04:55:47 <joepie91> :P
04:56:13 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
04:56:20 <Macbeth> and nickserv just asked for a password
04:56:56 <Macbeth> and chanserv is back
04:57:15 <joepie91> well yes of course
04:57:16 <joepie91> hub is back
04:57:16 <joepie91> :)
04:57:31 <Macbeth> mhmm
04:57:34 <Macbeth> just sayin
04:57:46 <Macbeth> joe, do you have PGP?
05:00:01 <joepie91> Macbeth: I *had* a GPG key
05:00:10 <joepie91> but like days to weeks after I made one, i got raided
05:00:13 <joepie91> so that's compromised
05:00:19 <joepie91> haven't gotten around to making a new one yet
05:01:33 <Macbeth> ha ha ha, alright
05:01:33 <nox> hai der cayce
05:01:39 <cayce> sup nox :D
05:01:52 <Macbeth> are you going to complain to the gov't that you don't have your shit back yet?
05:02:40 <joepie91> Macbeth: the only answer to that is "maybe", but to be perfectly honest I don't really feel like rehashing that same topic over and over and over again
05:02:44 <joepie91> unless there is an update
05:02:45 <joepie91> :P
05:02:57 <nox> nm
05:03:00 <nox> you cayce?
05:03:01 <nox> hey joepie91
05:03:03 <nox> ily bbgrl
05:03:16 <joepie91> ohai nox
05:03:17 <cayce> nox:) not much :D bout to sleep :)
05:03:23 <nox> ltns joepie91
05:03:27 <nox> cayce, no sleeps!
05:03:37 <joepie91> cayce: sleep is bad okay
05:03:40 <cayce> nox:) I am not android, must sleeps!
05:03:40 <joepie91> more code, less sleep
05:03:43 <nox> more code
05:03:44 <joepie91> :D
05:03:45 <nox> less sleep
05:03:50 <nox> im going to be up all night
05:03:54 <nox> joepie91, i finished my last freelancing job <3
05:03:55 <joepie91> speaking of which
05:03:56 <cayce> I have a test at 10am
05:03:57 <joepie91> I need to learn boto
05:04:02 <cayce> wtb sleep
05:04:04 <joepie91> nox: ?
05:04:06 <cayce> sleep > studying
05:04:11 <joepie91> cayce: true
05:04:12 <Macbeth> trying to get TOR system wide.
05:04:26 <nox> joepie91, the one ive been working on for two months
05:04:27 <Macbeth> there is so many ways on Ubuntu and Linux, but not Windows
05:04:28 <nox> just got paid :3
05:04:29 <Macbeth> ugh
05:04:33 <joepie91> Macbeth: https://code.google.com/p/badvpn/wiki/tun2socks
05:04:33 <joepie91> oh
05:04:35 <joepie91> Windows
05:04:38 <joepie91> yeah then you're probably screwed
05:04:48 <joepie91> nox: ahhh
05:04:48 <Macbeth> mhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
05:04:49 <cayce> nox:) Hot :D
05:04:50 <joepie91> :)
05:04:52 <nox> :)
05:04:57 <joepie91> Macbeth: I think there is technically a way to do it
05:05:00 <Macbeth> I could configure another network and have the tor ip and port in there
05:05:03 <joepie91> but I wouldn't trust my life or safety with it
05:05:04 <joepie91> so to sauy
05:05:05 <joepie91> say *
05:05:09 <Macbeth> I could configure another network and have the tor ip and port in there
05:05:12 <joepie91> then I again, I wouldn't trust my life or safety with Windows at all
05:05:16 <joepie91> then again *
05:05:17 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
05:05:43 <joepie91> black boxes are generally not very good for putting trust into
05:05:52 <cayce> tails is a good black box
05:05:57 <nox> joepie91, https://code.google.com/p/dpkt/
05:06:00 <joepie91> tails isn't a black box
05:06:04 <joepie91> just one with curtains
05:06:05 <joepie91> :)
05:06:27 <joepie91> nox: mmm?
05:06:43 <nox> i wanna use raw pakets
05:06:50 <nox> with an ircbot
05:06:51 <nox> :D
05:06:52 <joepie91> Macbeth: OH!
05:06:52 <Macbeth> Ich frage mich, wer wird gehen und übersetzen diese.
05:06:52 <Macbeth> Vielleicht sprechen die Sprache, obwohl zweifelhaft. Du bist wahrscheinlich auf Google Translate ... HA
05:06:56 <Macbeth> ?
05:06:58 <joepie91> Macbeth: badvpn seems to work on Windows!
05:07:28 <joepie91> or well
05:07:32 <joepie91> it has instructions for it anyway
05:07:35 <Macbeth> 4AWESOME
05:07:37 <joepie91> nox: sounds vaguely suspicious
05:08:06 <Macbeth> "If you're on Windows, simply grab the Windows build of BadVPN. "
05:08:55 <nox> joepie91, i wanna learn
05:09:07 <nox> and i want to find new ways to screw with people
05:09:24 <Macbeth> what do ya'll think of OpenVPN?
05:11:00 <Macbeth> no thoughts?
05:12:15 <Zekka> I haven't ever used oepenvpn
05:12:23 <Macbeth> hmm
05:12:27 <Macbeth> it looks good
05:12:28 <Zekka> I think last time I mentioned it joepie91 had some thoughts
05:12:34 <Zekka> but I don't remember what they were
05:12:36 <Macbeth> oh
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05:14:14 <nox> x omg
05:14:16 <nox> ive missed you
05:14:20 <nox> pm up my asshole
05:14:20 <nox> now
05:15:39 <Macbeth> joepie91: thoughts on openvpn.net
05:16:49 <joepie91> Macbeth: perhaps you meant http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html
05:17:07 <joepie91> and my thoughts are "it's VPN software, afaik it's fine"
05:17:24 <Macbeth> alright
05:17:37 <Macbeth> i mean, there are so many i wanted to see what you thought of this one
05:18:32 <joepie91> Macbeth: not really
05:18:40 <joepie91> there's only a few different VPN protocols/clients
05:18:47 <joepie91> openvpn is one of the most common ones
05:19:03 <nox> x :(
05:19:19 <x> nox <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
05:26:14 <Macbeth> is that you, x?
05:26:22 <joepie91> Macbeth: no, it's y
05:26:22 <joepie91> lol
05:26:27 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
05:26:31 <Macbeth> im on another network
05:26:33 <Macbeth> x is there
05:26:39 <joepie91> there's a few x'es
05:26:42 <joepie91> anyway brb dishes
05:26:48 <x> but we are the same x
05:26:50 <x> :p
05:26:50 <Macbeth> no, tht's him :p
05:26:53 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
05:27:21 * x is on many
05:27:24 <x> :3
05:27:32 <Macbeth> what ntws?
05:27:45 <x> also brb making noms :D
05:28:03 <Macbeth> omnomnomnomnomnom
05:28:11 <Macbeth> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
05:37:24 <Macbeth> brb. im restarting
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06:24:24 <Macbeth> Hai
06:34:52 <joepie91> hai
06:35:21 <Macbeth> oi
06:39:24 <Macbeth> joe, what anonymous email should u use?
06:40:54 <Macbeth> damn they treat ppl like shit at the anonops.com irc
06:42:31 <joepie91> Macbeth: anonymous email? wut?
06:43:42 <Macbeth> email tht doesnt track
06:44:54 <Macbeth> wut do you think??
06:55:56 <joepie91> Macbeth: "email that doesn't track"?
06:55:59 <joepie91> track what? for what purpose?
06:56:05 <joepie91> and how are you going to know whether they do?
06:56:13 <joepie91> self-host, use GPG, or assume everything is being tracked
06:56:21 <Macbeth> yeah, thx
06:56:34 <joepie91> Macbeth: do you have a VPS?
06:56:38 <Macbeth> i do not
06:56:45 <joepie91> I think you should really consider getting one :P
06:56:58 <Macbeth> you think i should host my own email?
06:57:07 <joepie91> eh, not saying thatt
06:57:11 <joepie91> hosting your own e-mail is a pain in the ass
06:57:13 <joepie91> generally
06:57:16 <Macbeth> mhmm
06:57:23 <joepie91> it's advisable if you want privacy
06:57:24 <Macbeth> so why ask?
06:57:26 <joepie91> but it will be a lot of work
06:57:31 <Macbeth> im sayin
06:57:33 <Macbeth> so why ask?
06:57:39 <joepie91> Macbeth: I just get the impression that you're relying on third parties too much
06:57:43 <Macbeth> oh, disregard that question
06:57:49 <joepie91> and I think it'd be beneficial if you learned how to set up your own infrastructure
06:57:49 <joepie91> :)
06:57:57 <Macbeth> oh, it totally would
06:58:12 <Macbeth> but i just trust other people more then myself to set up secure email
06:58:25 <joepie91> Macbeth: you shouldn't
06:58:30 <Macbeth> btw, you should have an email @anonnews.org
06:58:35 <joepie91> eh, I used to
06:58:42 <joepie91> only got crap I wasn't interested in really
06:58:47 <joepie91> if people really need me they can hop onto IRC
06:58:51 <Macbeth> spam?
06:58:55 <joepie91> no
06:59:01 <joepie91> either reporters thinking I was the leader of anon
06:59:07 <joepie91> or people asking me for help for $whateverthing
06:59:07 <Macbeth> LOL
06:59:13 <joepie91> none of which should be addressed at me
06:59:19 <Macbeth> mhmm
06:59:35 <Macbeth> i love stupid reporters
06:59:38 <Macbeth> do some homework...
07:00:19 <joepie91> anyway, Macbeth, there's things like http://annualkvm.com/ or http://lowendspirit.com/ or even https://eduvps.net/
07:01:00 <joepie91> oh
07:01:05 <joepie91> tinyvz has stock again too: http://tinyvz.com/
07:01:55 <Macbeth> oh, cool
07:02:10 <joepie91> and if you want to use bitcoin: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/bitcoinvps.html
07:02:15 <joepie91> (for paying the bills, that is)
07:03:26 <Macbeth> ahh, awesome
07:04:40 <joepie91> oh
07:04:42 <joepie91> need to update that page
07:04:47 <joepie91> bluevm has zurich now
07:10:40 <nox> ping
07:10:43 <nox> joepie91,
07:11:44 <joepie91> nox, pong?
07:11:55 <nox> https://securedragon.net/openvz_p.php
07:11:57 <nox> holy shit
07:12:38 <Macbeth> .title
07:12:39 <botpie91> Macbeth: Secure your data with a dragon. - Secure Dragon LLC.
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07:15:16 <joepie91> nox: what?
07:15:58 <nox> joepie91, uhoh man i just made an impulse buy
07:16:12 <joepie91> nox: lol
07:16:15 <joepie91> securedragon?
07:16:28 <joepie91> fwiw, I think it's CNServers
07:16:31 <Macbeth> tormail isn't there anymoar...
07:16:33 <nox> no
07:16:33 <Macbeth> D:
07:16:37 <nox> hosthatch
07:16:40 <nox> 10gbps server
07:16:46 <joepie91> hosthatch?
07:16:48 <Macbeth> ( )_( )
07:16:48 <joepie91> never heard of them
07:16:49 <joepie91> lol
07:16:50 <joepie91> 10gbps
07:16:50 <nox> lel
07:16:51 <joepie91> one moment
07:17:03 <joepie91> I can guess where they are hosted
07:17:04 <joepie91> but let me check
07:17:05 <nox> if its not 10
07:17:08 <nox> ill get a refund
07:17:47 <joepie91> "These servers are located in our Netherlands datacenter, which is a Tier 3+ facility using green power from renewable resources!"
07:17:48 <nox> https://hosthatch.com/10gbps-vps
07:17:50 <joepie91> sketchy
07:17:53 <joepie91> doesn't name the datacenter
07:17:58 <nox> refund
07:18:07 <joepie91> my guess would be Ecatel
07:18:17 <nox> :(
07:18:17 <joepie91> (my initial guess was either FDC or Ecatel)
07:18:36 <Macbeth> did u give them your credit card?
07:18:40 <nox> lol
07:18:43 <nox> obviously
07:18:48 <Macbeth> lol
07:18:51 <nox> :)
07:18:55 <Macbeth> you're fucked
07:18:56 <Macbeth> lol
07:19:04 <nox> if only you knew
07:19:09 <Macbeth> <joepie91> sketchy
07:19:17 <Macbeth> joepie91> doesn't name the datacenter
07:19:24 <joepie91> oh wow
07:19:25 <joepie91> it's i3d
07:19:29 <joepie91> not even ecatel
07:19:33 <nox> ??
07:19:35 <joepie91> that said, I'm really not sure i3d can deliver 10gbps
07:19:39 <Macbeth> xD
07:19:44 <Macbeth> Dude, you were taken
07:19:48 <joepie91> or well
07:19:49 <joepie91> was* i3d
07:19:54 <nox> Macbeth, im not going to get fucked
07:19:54 <joepie91> doesn't seem to be hosthatch ranges anymore
07:19:58 <joepie91> nox: what's your IP
07:20:00 <joepie91> like
07:20:02 <joepie91> the server IP
07:20:02 <nox> joepie91, we'll see
07:20:05 <joepie91> oh, not instant?
07:20:10 <nox> its pending
07:20:11 <nox> yeah :\
07:20:13 <joepie91> mm
07:20:15 <Macbeth> p
07:20:16 <Macbeth> f
07:20:17 <Macbeth> t
07:20:18 <joepie91> interesting: http://bgp.he.net/search?search%5Bsearch%5D=hosthatch&commit=Search
07:20:24 <Macbeth> .title
07:20:24 <botpie91> Macbeth: hosthatch - bgp.he.net
07:20:31 <Macbeth> waste of .title cmd
07:20:31 <nox> joepie91, does Macbeth know what he's talking about or is he just being obnoxious.
07:21:07 <Macbeth> it doesnt take much to know that you shouldnt give your credit card to sites u just stumble upon
07:21:09 <Macbeth> so, both
07:21:09 <joepie91> nox: keep the atmosphere here nice, thank you
07:21:30 <nox> lol okay then
07:21:36 <joepie91> serverius
07:21:41 <joepie91> is where they are now
07:21:47 <joepie91> traceroute 31.220.42.0
07:21:48 <Macbeth> dude, get a refund
07:21:53 <nox> Macbeth, there are these things around where I live where I can put cash in an ATM and be given a credit card :-)
07:21:54 <joepie91> serverius isn't bad
07:22:00 <joepie91> I'm unsure about their network capacity
07:22:06 <nox> we'll see :D
07:22:10 <nox> if it is it's wrth it
07:22:12 <Macbeth> nox: so it's not linked to your bank accnt?
07:22:16 <joepie91> they're definitely at serverius
07:22:19 <nox> of course not
07:22:23 <Macbeth> oh, alright
07:22:30 <Macbeth> ha ha
07:23:02 <Macbeth> http://www.sendanonymoussms.com/
07:23:03 <Macbeth> .title
07:23:04 <botpie91> Macbeth: Send Free Anonymous SMS Text Messages Via the Web
07:23:15 <Macbeth> i shall play with this!
07:23:22 <Macbeth> (with tor)
07:25:09 <Macbeth> i just cant find anonymous email
07:25:28 <Macbeth> hushmail is good, but i dont like having to log in commonly so it's not killed
07:25:30 <joepie91> still curious why their IP ranges say germany
07:25:38 <Macbeth> hidemyass is a tracker
07:27:02 <Macbeth> getting frustraited
07:31:44 <Macbeth> onLoad = window.location.reload;
07:31:45 <Macbeth> HAHAHAHHA
07:33:59 <joepie91> Macbeth: there IS no anonymous e-mail provider
07:34:33 <Macbeth> macbethanon@anoninbox.com
07:34:34 <Macbeth> HA
07:34:54 * joepie91 sighs
07:35:16 * Macbeth knows. but is going to use it anyway and just access w/ tor and use pgp
07:41:20 <MK_FG> Spotted a link on seagate eth drives above, went to see the "open platform" code, link from seagate.com leads straight to github. Wow, times do change ;)
07:44:08 <MK_FG> Except they distribute whole py lib there as one .egg with only .pyc's inside... open, my ass ;)
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07:45:33 <MK_FG> What the hell is wrong with you?
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07:45:38 <Macbeth> K7Sfr6ZJC+Xld5TGwsOKOeDv+JLpUtXi0RXQtc+6wKn0aM9wBQe0xJCvu76Yly6q
07:45:40 <Macbeth> 6Ow3LAkmpWojYjDqYbf7pqS0YEdTDMu8vayQ6rEIzWAJjFQ+DOnq1TlTuS6deIHL
07:45:42 <Macbeth> cWll2e9qMb9xDS3YJyjdZ0z1s+OBe2hecfhwNQARAQABiQEfBBgBAgAJBQJSbhWF
07:45:44 <Macbeth> AhsMAAoJEF4ZkZLheY+iGesIALoZcpBJRBR/fZ5Y+UXFBgH4BreXogmStN9lOUuI
07:45:46 <Macbeth> ywQdrw3ukANWZ1sZDBG1B64w+MYCHmFP8ZNxZ/WERBTePBSufhBvGdoCgn1WVMA3
07:45:48 <Macbeth> vkutzWJSjG3F7mkXF2qBazP0w7kLZzPcEF2C9jmTyWI8B3KT989DYOA/liWB5h1M
07:45:50 <Macbeth> 0r9MeSPKFNsv0pvMvELGTH7NI24BSO/pd87uBHnzf6IE7yXg65qhBpVbyuT1BLCl
07:45:52 <Macbeth> nlDhp13tnS1MaS1oZbkxn8kUfgF/ahEoY+FvUOYiEknnIboSmSnDWLyEmlYl9I+m
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07:48:09 <Macbeth> loggy, pointer?
07:48:09 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-10-28#T07-48-09
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07:55:34 <joepie91> Macbeth
07:55:39 <joepie91> #crytocc is not your keyserver
07:55:52 <joepie91> <MK_FG>Spotted a link on seagate eth drives above, went to see the "open platform" code, link from seagate.com leads straight to github. Wow, times do change ;)
07:55:53 <joepie91> wait wut
07:56:04 <joepie91> link?
07:56:06 <Macbeth> thts not what im doing
07:56:10 <Macbeth> it was just a mistake
07:56:27 <Macbeth> i meant to click notepad, which is next to the irc client
07:56:37 <MK_FG> http://www.seagate.com/solutions/cloud/data-center-cloud/platforms/ - "Get the drive simulator and developer tools >" link
07:56:39 <Macbeth> i ctrl+v'd in here, and it posted
07:56:59 <Macbeth> my key server is pgp.mit.edu i wouldnt use the irc for tht
07:57:05 <MK_FG> joepie91, But major caveat - it's repo where they commit .zip with .pyc files - FAIL ;)
07:57:22 <MK_FG> Still, github, at least they pose :P
07:57:47 <joepie91> MK_FG: that seems like a really good way to get terminated by github for non-compliance with TOS
07:57:48 <joepie91> lol
07:58:02 <MK_FG> Oh, they don't allow binary files by TOS?
07:58:13 <joepie91> not that
07:58:19 * nox touches joepie91
07:58:21 <joepie91> but afaik their TOS are "for public repos it must be open-sauce"
07:58:22 <joepie91> also
07:58:23 <joepie91> 3.  Restrictions. You are not licensed to do any of the following:
07:58:23 <joepie91>     a. Create derivative works based on the Product or any part or component thereof, including,but not
07:58:23 <joepie91>     limited to, the Software;
07:58:29 <joepie91> so much for 'open'
07:58:45 <MK_FG> Yeah yeah, they still suck butt
07:58:47 * Macbeth hits nox
07:58:50 <nox> o.o
07:58:53 <Macbeth> HA
07:58:54 <MK_FG> And security page there is fun
07:59:06 * Macbeth moves in for a second hit
07:59:17 * Macbeth draws hand
07:59:21 <MK_FG> They use aes-xts (no mention of iv, but ok, maybe they got it right) for data on disk, so it looks nice...
07:59:34 * Macbeth is wondering is nox is gonna do anything...
07:59:40 <MK_FG> ...but then they say "and key never leaves the drive" :P
07:59:40 * Macbeth moves hand forward
07:59:49 * joepie91 kicks Macbeth
07:59:50 <joepie91> be nice
07:59:53 <nox> :-)
07:59:56 <nox> that's right Macbeth
07:59:59 <joepie91> cc nox
08:00:01 <MK_FG> So yeah, right, def. secure :P
08:00:14 <joepie91> MK_FG: unless their crypto code is open
08:00:15 <joepie91> it's not secure
08:00:32 <MK_FG> Well, my point is that it isn't even according to docs
08:00:52 <MK_FG> Key is stored right alongside encrypted data on the media, as they say themselves
08:02:25 <MK_FG> They do make kinda good point about secure erase feature due to key rotation though
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08:02:46 <MK_FG> ...if they do erase and generate it randomly and securely, of course, which isn't given
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10:10:59 <joepie91> public service announcement
10:11:05 <joepie91> arvel.cryto.net should be coming back up in a bit
10:11:19 <joepie91> but haless.cryto.net will be going down for a bit
10:11:20 <joepie91> for maintenance
10:11:25 <joepie91> (yes, it's maintenance time, I know)
10:11:38 <joepie91> in approximately... 30 minutes
10:27:30 <norbert79> thanks for the info joepie91
10:32:14 <lysobit> Well, when wire.cryto.net was split for about a year you didn't notice :P
10:35:17 <joepie91> lysobit: uh, it split all the time
11:03:21 <joepie91> slight delay
11:03:24 <joepie91> still working on it :P
11:04:06 loggy (loggy@5C4B2CE4.B8E60B3B.FD9B6484.IP) has joined #crytocc
11:04:06 <box.cryto.net> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz
11:04:06 <box.cryto.net> Users on #crytocc: loggy Gooch aHlTat Asad d0wn_blog staticsafe vld foolex brenden botpie91 norbert79 ElectRo` captainobvious &MK_FG lisizki mikaa IR601 tintin GHOSTnew Baklava joepie91 zxcvbnm ack lelelel Zekka fr0z3n lysobit @SpaghettiCode truetravesty cayce stanone nox connor
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11:09:55 <iceTwy> botpie91: tell Macbeth that's nice :P
11:09:55 <botpie91> iceTwy: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
11:09:59 <joepie91> http://mycatlivestreeaam.biz/
11:10:09 <joepie91> iceTwy: botpie91 will be gone in a bit
11:10:13 <iceTwy> aw
11:10:15 <joepie91> cba to make it reconnect to box
11:10:21 <joepie91> it's set to connect to haless
11:10:24 <joepie91> which will be going down in a bit
11:10:28 <joepie91> for maintenance
11:10:47 <MK_FG> Violating cats' privacy all around
11:11:13 <iceTwy> mad MK_FG? :D
11:11:25 <MK_FG> It's outrageous!
11:15:03 <joepie91> in theeeeeeory
11:15:17 <joepie91> arvel should connect
11:15:20 <joepie91> in a sec
11:15:33 <joepie91> of course I probably fucked something up
11:17:27 <joepie91> yup
11:17:29 <joepie91> colliding numeric
11:17:31 <joepie91> but it should work now
11:18:17 <joepie91> okay
11:18:19 <joepie91> arvel is back
11:18:20 <joepie91> !
11:18:34 <joepie91> shutdown if haless imminent
11:18:39 <joepie91> see you guys on the other side :)
11:18:41 <joepie91> of *
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11:19:32 <joepie91> there we go
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11:26:48 <vld> yay!
11:27:51 <joepie91> wb vld
11:35:04 <vld> thank you
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11:46:53 * joepie91 watches upgrade lines scroll by
11:47:00 <joepie91> I wonder if haless will still boot when I'm done
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12:12:23 * joepie91 frowns
12:12:29 <joepie91> where'd my botserv go
12:14:49 <vld> I havne't seen him
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12:38:32 <joepie91> looks like a healthy upgrade!
12:38:34 <joepie91> Removing klogd ...
12:38:34 <joepie91> Stopping kernel log daemon....
12:38:34 <joepie91> Removing sysklogd ...
12:38:34 <joepie91> Stopping system log daemon....
12:41:18 <norbert79> heh
12:41:24 <norbert79> where?
12:43:30 <joepie91> norbert79: haless
12:43:39 <joepie91> I'm updating from Debian 5 to Debian 7
12:43:42 <joepie91> (what could possibly go wrong!)
12:43:49 <joepie91> well, technically I updated to 6 inbetween
12:43:53 <joepie91> but yeah
12:43:57 <joepie91> I'm surprised shit hasn't broken yet
12:44:15 <norbert79> amazing I must say
12:44:27 <joepie91> I'm still looking at a scrolling upgrade process!
12:44:36 <norbert79> although Debian Sid with Apache 2.4 fucked up some of my virtual-server settings
12:44:43 <joepie91> and it's on openvz too!
12:44:46 <norbert79> I can't do any virtual hosts anymore
12:44:48 <norbert79> ah, nice
12:44:53 <joepie91> heh
12:45:16 <joepie91> also
12:45:17 <norbert79> Now I need to do some vodoo magic to the same which used to work perfectly
12:45:21 <joepie91> turns out my tor relay node has been dead
12:45:23 <joepie91> for a long time
12:45:24 <norbert79> and I failed doing so so far
12:45:28 <joepie91> because tor was too old
12:45:28 <norbert79> hah
12:45:31 <joepie91> because the distro went EOL
12:45:31 <joepie91> rofl
12:45:39 <norbert79> wtf
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12:45:55 <joepie91> security issues
12:45:56 <norbert79> That is stupid
12:46:05 <joepie91> nah
12:46:08 <joepie91> makes sense
12:46:25 <norbert79> Not really, what if I use an older distro but compile the things for myself?
12:46:31 <norbert79> depends on the validty check of course
12:47:19 <joepie91> norbert79: it was the package from Debian
12:47:24 <joepie91> that's why it was outdated
12:47:28 <norbert79> ok
12:47:29 <joepie91> Debian 5 has been EOL for a while now
12:47:35 <joepie91> so there were no package updates -at all- anymore
12:47:36 <norbert79> that makes sense then indeed
12:48:35 <joepie91> I should set up a few more relays
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12:49:16 <iceTwy> aloha
12:49:42 <Ablazerainbowhedge> hello! using sucky wifi :)
12:49:57 <norbert79> good for you, no need for paying for hoes
12:50:18 <Ablazerainbowhedge> mmmm
12:50:48 <norbert79> I only have a good Wifi, which refuses to sucj
12:50:49 <norbert79> suck
12:51:31 <Ablazerainbowhedge> it likes u
12:51:44 <norbert79> I wish it would hate me sometimes :D
12:52:16 <joepie91> isn't wifi sucky by definition?
12:52:37 <Ablazerainbowhedge> nah
12:52:46 <norbert79> joepie91: Surprisngly mine doesn't... Maybe I will replace the antennas with some longer one
12:52:57 <Ablazerainbowhedge> ur life was and still is a lie joepie91
12:53:26 * joepie91 is happily connected via a cable
12:54:46 <norbert79> joepie91: Google made me thinking and swear at the same time... if ISP's start spreading Internet at above, than 100 Mbit I am fucked
12:54:55 <norbert79> I need to replace all my cables with Cat-6
12:55:06 <norbert79> I am on cat-5 for now
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12:55:51 <joepie91> :P
12:55:57 <joepie91> my cable is probably cat5
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13:04:01 <MK_FG> cat-6? pfft, fiber! ;)
13:04:38 * Ablazerainbowhedge doesnt get any of this chimology
13:04:56 <norbert79> MK_FG: It's a bit problematic to have that inside a flat, where tight edges surprise you :)
13:05:52 <MK_FG> I bet its turn radius can fit anywhere cat-5 does as well
13:06:16 <MK_FG> Because you just dan't bend cat-5 that hard either, unless you hate it or something ;)
13:06:34 <MK_FG> But dunno, never worked as a cable guy
13:06:44 <norbert79> different materials used
13:07:13 <MK_FG> True, but I mean you don't need that much space to make non-tight turn
13:07:34 <MK_FG> And given that fiber is much thinner, if cat-5 turns there, I'd say that's def. enuff for fiber
13:07:53 <norbert79> my flat makes cabling damn complicated... And some walls can't be bored, so you need to hide the cable in door frames
13:08:11 <iceTwy> MK_FG: if only.. fiber..
13:08:13 <iceTwy> fiber..
13:08:14 <MK_FG> That'd be a bliss with non-cat-5 :P
13:08:15 * iceTwy dreams of fiber
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13:08:42 <iceTwy> my ISP uses shitty arguments, like
13:08:59 <iceTwy> "French people are satisfied with the good ADSL2+ connections we provide"
13:09:03 <MK_FG> What, you ISP even considers fiber to every door?
13:09:04 <iceTwy> not even v fucking DSL
13:09:07 <iceTwy> lol
13:09:13 <iceTwy> they considered it back in '09 or '10
13:09:33 <iceTwy> they've actually implemented fiber in a few districts of Paris
13:09:38 <iceTwy> but other than that, nada.
13:09:43 <MK_FG> I think it's actually done here for some biz customers on first floors
13:09:53 <iceTwy> then again we were supposed to have fiber in '09/'10
13:09:56 <iceTwy> but our ISP fucked us
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13:10:23 <joepie91> so
13:10:24 <joepie91> options:
13:10:31 <iceTwy> and they're pretty fucking horrible - they even /advertise/ about their fiber
13:10:33 <joepie91> 1. start IRCd again
13:10:39 <joepie91> 2. reboot first to see if dist-upgrade fucked boot process
13:10:42 <iceTwy> when they've got fiber on less than 1% of France
13:10:56 <MK_FG> Iirc fiber is made from glass, which you'd think should be cheaper than tons of copper cables
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13:11:15 <MK_FG> But guess hw for it and production process can make up for it
13:11:21 <iceTwy> MK_FG: yeah, but I believe they use specific materials there
13:11:27 <iceTwy> special types of glass or w/e
13:11:29 <joepie91> GUYS VOTES PLEASE
13:11:33 <MK_FG> Yeah, could be too
13:11:34 <joepie91> <joepie91>1. start IRCd again
13:11:34 <joepie91> <joepie91>2. reboot first to see if dist-upgrade fucked boot process
13:11:37 <iceTwy> hmm
13:11:44 <MK_FG> 2
13:11:46 <iceTwy> 2
13:11:55 <MK_FG> Fcuk later surprises
13:12:00 <iceTwy> ^
13:12:13 <iceTwy> ermahgerd
13:12:16 <iceTwy> cuteness overload
13:12:18 <iceTwy> http://imgur.com/gallery/6G0JhxF
13:12:20 <iceTwy> .title
13:13:10 <MK_FG> On wifi note I wonder if replacing card in my laptop with 5GHz one would work with same antenna...
13:13:28 <joepie91> okay
13:13:40 <joepie91> welll
13:13:41 <joepie91> there we go then
13:13:52 <joepie91> de1:/var/log/tor# uptime
13:13:52 <joepie91> 17:13:44 up 51 days, 22:34,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.20, 0.35
13:13:56 <joepie91> it was nice to have known you, 51 days uptime
13:13:57 <joepie91> lol
13:14:21 <MK_FG> Means you don't update kernel often enough :P
13:14:31 <joepie91> MK_FG: openvz
13:14:33 <joepie91> openvz *
13:14:36 <MK_FG> Oh, right
13:14:40 <joepie91> :P
13:14:43 <joepie91> well
13:14:44 <joepie91> it pings
13:14:49 <joepie91> whoa
13:14:51 <joepie91> and I SShed in
13:14:52 <joepie91> !
13:15:07 <joepie91> and shit is not horribly broken!
13:15:07 <joepie91> lol
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13:15:18 <MK_FG> That's surprising
13:15:19 <iceTwy> 14:15:10 up 7 days, 12:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
13:15:22 <iceTwy> ^ that's my SSH
13:15:25 <iceTwy> uh
13:15:27 <iceTwy> VPS
13:15:32 <joepie91> okay so now to get rid of apache2
13:15:34 <joepie91> why the fuck is it even on there
13:15:37 <joepie91> really
13:15:38 <joepie91> :|
13:15:38 <iceTwy> hahahahahahaha
13:15:40 <iceTwy> hahahahaha
13:15:42 <iceTwy> apache2
13:15:44 <iceTwy> haha
13:15:45 <MK_FG> Though I never liked how obscure "shit's not broken" in debian due to their crappy sysvinit
13:15:54 <joepie91> it was fighting with lighttpd over port 80 like an hour ago
13:15:55 <joepie91> lol
13:16:08 <iceTwy> joepie91: nginx mehbee? :3
13:16:15 <joepie91> YEAH SURE LET'S MAKE IT A THREEWAY FIGHT
13:16:16 <joepie91> .. no
13:16:29 <MK_FG> Both upstart and systemd give proper picture that "everything that you configured to runs, was started, all output if these per-service files (or journal)"
13:16:30 <joepie91> inb4
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13:16:34 <joepie91> there we go!
13:16:37 <joepie91> haless is back!
13:16:56 <iceTwy> YAY
13:16:59 <iceTwy> time for haless
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13:17:10 <joepie91> lol
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13:17:12 <joepie91> haha
13:17:19 <iceTwy> haless uber alles :D
13:17:19 <norbert79> root??
13:17:19 <joepie91> haless is still my favourite leaf
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13:17:32 <joepie91> time to redirect loggy
13:17:50 <joepie91> also, I wonder if I qualify for a TOR t-shirt yet..
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13:18:13 <haless.cryto.net> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. http://wire.cryto.net/logs | http://cryto.net/, http://forums.cryto.net/ | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: http://research.cryto.net/ | RIP Aaron Swartz
13:18:13 <haless.cryto.net> Users on #crytocc: loggy Asad d0wn_blog IR601 iceTwy botpie91 truetravesty cayce stanone nox connor lysobit Zekka tintin &MK_FG staticsafe ElectRo` fr0z3n joepie91 GHOSTnew captainobvious norbert79 vld HiveResearch foolex juedif
13:18:14 <MK_FG> It's an exit node?
13:18:15 <iceTwy> haha joepie91
13:18:30 <joepie91> MK_FG: no, relay; you can (could?) also get a t-shirt for relay, just had to run it longer with more bw
13:18:46 <joepie91> problem is that it has been offline without me noticing for some time
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13:18:53 <joepie91> due to tor in debian 5 repo being too outdated
13:18:54 <MK_FG> Hm, I thought these were only for exit nodes, but not sure either ;)
13:19:00 <joepie91> so the rest of the network rejected it
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13:19:19 <joepie91> mm
13:19:19 <joepie91> Operate a fast Tor relay that's been running for the past two months: you are eligible if you allow exits to port 80 and you average 100 KBytes/s traffic, or if you're not an exit but you average 500 KBytes/s traffic.
13:19:27 <joepie91> I think my average is far too low
13:19:27 <joepie91> :P
13:19:48 <joepie91> I should set up a better relay anyway
13:19:55 <joepie91> I have like 50KB/sec now
13:19:58 <joepie91> which really isn't much
13:20:06 <joepie91> but, traffic limit
13:20:22 <MK_FG> It especially made sense given late events in tor land
13:20:36 <joepie91> MK_FG: mhmm
13:20:46 <MK_FG> That botnet bumped cpu to 100% on all my relays
13:20:56 <mama> joepie91: what happened to anonnews.org?
13:21:00 <MK_FG> So limiting traffic quite hard was kinda good option
13:21:21 <joepie91> mama: I don't know, is something not working?
13:21:31 <MK_FG> (and pretty much the only one, while ecc handshakes were not there yet)
13:21:34 <mama> seems defaced
13:21:39 <joepie91> mama: wat
13:21:58 <mama> http://www.anonnews.org/press/item/2571/comments/
13:22:23 <joepie91> mama: what is "defaced" about that?
13:22:26 <joepie91> it's just a spam comment
13:22:37 <mama> ok
13:22:44 * iceTwy defaces joepie91
13:22:46 <iceTwy> aw
13:22:48 <iceTwy> :(
13:22:50 <joepie91> you should really not use words like "deface" unless the site is actually gone/fucked
13:22:54 <joepie91> bad for my blood pressure
13:22:55 <joepie91> lol
13:23:04 <mama> i thought all the website is like that
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13:23:26 <mama> i was just checking it :P
13:24:02 <mama> cryto was down yesterday so i started having some worries
13:24:09 <joepie91> mama: it wasn't
13:24:24 <joepie91> the hub was down for maintenance as I announced
13:24:29 <joepie91> it's useful to read IRC logs :)
13:24:45 <mama> ok LOL
13:24:57 <mama> i was afk for 2 days
13:26:44 <iceTwy> also.. this is interesting
13:26:51 <iceTwy> KiwiIRC devs are busy fixing FoUC's
13:27:05 <iceTwy> rather than improving the core of their code
13:27:23 <joepie91> FoUC's?
13:27:30 <iceTwy> Flash of Unstyled Content
13:27:38 <joepie91> ah
13:27:38 <iceTwy> basically, when a page loads completely but the CSS isn't loaded yet
13:27:59 <iceTwy> (well, the HTML is loaded completely, but the CSS isn't)
13:35:01 <joepie91> iceTwy, pm!
13:35:07 <iceTwy> yessir
13:43:15 <cayce> haet fouc
13:43:43 <cayce> but it's cool, that's why my css is fucking tiny and in one file
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14:05:19 <joepie91> timeright
14:05:22 <joepie91> right *
14:05:25 <joepie91> hub maintenance is over
14:05:35 <joepie91> haless is upgraded to debian stable
14:05:47 <joepie91> can't do anything on my ahdjs recording pipeline because of boto bug
14:05:50 <joepie91> I think it's time to sleep
14:10:56 <cayce> YES
14:11:09 <cayce> joepie91:) sleep well
14:11:30 <joepie91> cayce: before I go
14:11:31 <joepie91> https://github.com/boto/boto/issues/1819
14:11:48 <cayce> Sorry too busy dancing because it stopped raining
14:11:59 <cayce> maybe I will get a window, so I can ride to school
14:12:02 <joepie91> "hey let's implement diff backends for different naming conventions and restrictions... and then hardcode a lowercase check into a core function!"
14:12:04 <cayce> fuck the bus, takes >2x longer
14:12:07 <joepie91> THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BACKENDS WAS TO NOT DO THAT
14:12:14 <cayce> yeah derp
14:12:14 * joepie91 sighs
14:12:19 <cayce> boto is aws lib?
14:12:22 <joepie91> yes
14:12:25 <joepie91> trying to use with IA
14:12:26 <joepie91> can't
14:12:26 <cayce> mm
14:12:29 <joepie91> because they dun retard
14:12:31 <cayce> I wrote some things in that
14:12:32 <cayce> heh
14:12:34 <joepie91> so i can't create a mixed-case item
14:12:37 <joepie91> because of their fucking lowercase check
14:12:43 <cayce> dorp
14:12:48 <joepie91> which BLATANTLY ignores my settings
14:12:56 <joepie91> it literally breaks my application
14:12:57 <vld> umad?
14:13:00 <cayce> ^
14:13:09 <joepie91> shush vld
14:13:10 * cayce thinks "yes"
14:13:15 <vld> umad
14:13:22 * cayce grins
14:13:27 * vld smiles
14:13:30 * cayce gives joepie a pie and a cat
14:13:37 <vld> piecat!
14:14:49 <joepie91> catpie
14:15:03 <joepie91> sleepie
14:15:16 <vld> botpie91, tell joepie91 good night
14:15:16 <botpie91> vld: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
14:15:29 <joepie91> vld, I'm going to make it .startgh you
14:15:30 <botpie91> joepie91: 14:15Z <vld> tell joepie91 good night
14:15:40 <vld> .startgh
14:15:41 <joepie91> lol
14:15:42 <botpie91> Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny.
14:16:00 <vld> now you can't :p
14:16:10 <joepie91> I run the damn bot
14:16:11 <joepie91> of course I can
14:16:17 <vld> nope
14:16:20 <joepie91> k
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14:17:43 <joepie91> there
14:17:46 <joepie91> .startgh
14:17:46 *** vld is now known as vlad
14:17:48 <botpie91> Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny.
14:17:49 <vlad> there what
14:17:50 <joepie91> it now sends to both you and the channel
14:17:54 <vlad> to who
14:17:59 <joepie91> to you :)
14:18:02 <vlad> to me?
14:18:04 <vlad> okay :p
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14:18:15 <joepie91> as if I didn't expect you to /nick
14:18:15 <joepie91> :p
14:18:21 <vlad> you didn't
14:18:22 <vlad> :p
14:18:33 <joepie91> I.. kind of did
14:18:36 <joepie91> anyway
14:18:43 <joepie91> it doesn't matter, I've changed the target nick
14:18:47 <joepie91> goodnight :P
14:18:52 <vlad> night
14:18:57 *** vlad is now known as vld
14:19:05 <joepie91> and changed it again
14:19:10 <vld> fuuuuuu
14:19:13 <joepie91> :D
14:19:14 <joepie91> sec
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14:20:20 <joepie91> there we go
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14:20:27 <joepie91> it tracks nick changes now
14:20:41 <vld> really?
14:20:45 <joepie91> yes :P
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14:20:58 * joepie91 lol
14:21:00 <vlad> :p
14:21:01 <joepie91> lols *
14:21:17 <joepie91> you've been trying to evade non-existent messages for like 5 mins no
14:21:18 <joepie91> now *
14:21:19 <joepie91> lol
14:21:28 <vlad> I haven't been trying
14:21:30 <vlad> I've been evading!
14:21:39 <joepie91> except not really
14:21:44 <joepie91> because I never changed the code to begin with
14:21:45 <joepie91> lol
14:21:51 <vlad> fuuuuuuu
14:23:04 <vlad> trickypie
14:23:29 <joepie91> :D
14:23:41 <joepie91> k
14:23:42 <joepie91> sleep
14:23:44 <joepie91> night
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14:24:08 <vld> ;(
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14:56:43 <nox> joepie...
15:04:45 <zxcvbnm> herro
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16:07:47 <cayce> riding to school in the rain, ugh
16:07:49 * cayce zooms
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16:39:55 <complex> anyone here tried applying RSA to a chat?
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16:45:24 <MK_FG> Encrypted chat?
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17:06:19 <dpk> does anyone have contact details for joepie91?
17:06:32 <dpk> like, phone number
17:06:35 <dpk> it's fairly urgent
17:06:40 <MK_FG> http://cryto.net/~joepie91/
17:06:53 <dpk> yeah, i need him kinda right away
17:06:56 <dpk> nsh has been arrested
17:07:07 <MK_FG> ;(
17:07:12 <dpk> http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/28/us-usa-crime-hacking-idUSBRE99R0LP20131028
17:07:40 <dpk> indictment: http://www.scribd.com/doc/179595899/Love-Lauri-Indictment
17:13:30 <complex> &MK_FG well, with your own encryption, yes
17:13:51 <complex> who is nsh?
17:13:59 <nox> joepieeeee
17:14:00 <nox> where is he
17:14:24 <admire> Seems to be the question of the day.
17:14:28 <nox> mmm
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17:15:42 <crafy_d> http://books.cryto.net what is user and password? hoe can download books?
17:16:20 <vld> there is no username/password required
17:16:26 <MK_FG> "[20:23:42]<joepie91> sleep" "[20:23:44]<joepie91> night"
17:16:31 <MK_FG> (3h ago)
17:16:38 <vld> search for a book and then click on epub or pdf
17:16:56 <vld> or whatever format it is available in
17:17:21 <MK_FG> complex, There's OTR for encrypted chats, generally
17:17:48 <crafy_d> thank you
17:18:40 <vld> nsh aka route?
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17:21:06 <dpk> oh, no point making it [off]. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/us-briton-hacking-charges-nasa-lauri-love
17:21:28 <vld> "/
17:21:31 <vld> :(
17:21:43 <complex> who is this guy?
17:24:28 <dpk> affable chap, goes by the name of Smedley
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17:54:56 <macbeth> is the hub down again?
17:55:05 <macbeth> cos i cant identify w/ nickserv
17:55:14 <macbeth> chanserv is around but not nickserv
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17:57:57 <admire> I've been having troubles with nickserv as well
17:58:24 <macbeth> the main sever is down for maintence, and will be back up shortly.
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18:17:05 <macbeth> wb
18:17:23 <macbeth> Zekka, you;re not secure
18:17:36 <macbeth> use tor, its visable whut your state is
18:18:56 <admire> lol Someone in arizona at a school is getting a little zealous
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18:43:38 <crytocc128> joepie91
18:43:39 <crytocc128> vld
18:43:39 <crytocc128> x
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18:43:48 <vld> ?
18:43:48 <z3r0> anyone here?
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18:46:37 <admire> yes
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18:54:11 <crafy_d> o/
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18:57:20 <x> o/
18:57:33 <vld> \o
18:57:37 <crafy_d> : )
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19:43:16 <Useless_> any idea on when services will be back?
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20:02:21 <dpk> .seen joepie91
20:02:22 <botpie91> dpk: I last saw joepie91 at 2013-10-28 14:23:44 UTC on #crytocc
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20:05:37 <iceTwy> ping
20:05:44 <dpk> hey iceTwy
20:05:50 <iceTwy> ohai dpk!
20:06:04 <dpk> iceTwy: nsh has been arrested http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/us-briton-hacking-charges-nasa-lauri-love
20:06:09 <iceTwy> what
20:06:11 <iceTwy> o.o
20:06:44 <iceTwy> wtf dpk
20:08:09 <iceTwy> loggy, pointer
20:08:09 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-10-28#T20-08-09
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20:19:13 <iceTwy> cc cayce lysobit: https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.txt
20:19:17 <iceTwy> .title
20:19:17 <botpie91> iceTwy: manifesto/manifesto.txt at master · stpeter/manifesto · GitHub
20:19:49 <iceTwy> botpie91: tell joepie91 to read https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.txt
20:19:49 <botpie91> iceTwy: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
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20:33:38 <iceTwy> http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/28/nsa-files-decoded-hops
20:33:41 <iceTwy> .title
20:33:42 <botpie91> iceTwy: Three degrees of separation: breaking down the NSA's 'hops' surveillance method | World news | theguardian.com
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20:40:53 <Crypto> Hello.
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20:47:58 <iceTwy> Hey there, Crypto
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20:50:50 <Crypto> Hello. iceTwy.
20:51:01 <Crypto> ,*
20:51:39 <iceTwy> What's up?
20:52:01 <Crypto> Being busy.
20:52:45 <Crypto> Other than the ceiling.
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21:08:40 <iceTwy> cayce: thanks for offline.js
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21:29:49 <ShadowDemon> YO DOG WASSUP
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22:04:04 <YuKy_> sorry guys, does anyone know when Nickserv comes back ??
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22:04:37 <zxcvbnm> nope
22:04:50 <iceTwy> zxcvbnm: yep
22:04:51 <YuKy_> the situation is no longer manageable in our channel :(
22:04:59 <iceTwy> loggy, pointer
22:04:59 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-10-28#T22-04-59
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22:30:20 <ShadowDemon> Lame
22:39:40 <iceTwy> what is lame, ShadowDemon
22:43:15 <ShadowDemon> Our lack of Nickserv :/
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23:31:27 <DrWhat> Whats been going on
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23:31:59 <DrWhat> I havnt been able to connect in the last 2 days
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