Cryto! 22 October 2013
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00:13:17 <DrWhat> joepie92 tonight
00:13:20 <DrWhat> We will have sex
00:16:53 <joepie92> DrWhat: that is going to be logistically troublesome
00:18:21 <DrWhat> Eleberate?
00:19:16 <joepie92> DrWhat: well, aside from your atrocious spelling tonight, there's this thing called water
00:19:17 <joepie92> :P
00:20:43 <DrWhat> O_O
00:22:04 <DrWhat> and?
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00:34:01 <Macbeth> Hei
00:34:10 <arpunk> hi everyone
00:34:17 <Macbeth> Hey
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00:39:02 <Macbeth> Ubunfu: Ubuntu sucks dick
00:39:06 <Macbeth> Everyone else:
00:39:06 <Macbeth> http://www.reddit.com/tb/1ox63d
00:39:41 <Macbeth> .title
00:39:56 <Macbeth> WHERE IS BOTPIE91?! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
00:41:45 <Macbeth> Here is something that we can all like: http://i.imgur.com/qfUUjtt.jpg
00:41:58 <Macbeth> reddit is always the place to be
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00:42:16 <DrWhat> joepie92
00:42:23 <DrWhat> botpie has pinged out
00:42:30 <DrWhat> and macbeth is getting upset
00:42:53 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
00:43:05 <joepie92> wtf
00:43:08 <joepie92> WHERE IS BOTPIE
00:43:10 <Macbeth> ikr
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00:43:39 <joepie92> theres botpie
00:44:08 <Macbeth> YAY!
00:44:09 <botpie91> Macbeth: 21 Oct 11:43Z <iceTwy> tell Macbeth that Archiso needs to be revamped due to syslinux handling bios/uefi now - so I'm running into an error during the generation of the live CD
00:44:09 <Macbeth> .title
00:44:10 <botpie91> Macbeth: 21 Oct 12:09Z <iceTwy> tell Macbeth nevermind! I managed to get a fixed version of Archiso
00:44:10 <botpie91> I need a URI to give the title of...
00:44:32 <Macbeth> http://i.imgur.com/qfUUjtt.jpg
00:44:33 <Macbeth> .title
00:44:34 <botpie91> Macbeth: Document isn't HTML
00:44:37 <Macbeth> ugh
00:44:41 <Macbeth> Just go to the images...
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00:50:32 <Macbeth> So many people today
00:52:29 <joepie92> TIL: botpie remembers messages across restarts
00:53:09 <DrWhat> botpie91, tell Macbeth hes a jew, now
00:53:10 <botpie91> DrWhat: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
00:53:30 <DrWhat> :)
00:54:19 <Macbeth> I'm gonna let that one go because your a fuck tard :)
00:54:20 <botpie91> Macbeth: 00:53Z <DrWhat> tell Macbeth hes a jew, now
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00:54:43 <IanCurtis> lysobit, Saw you on news night just now. Only a minute long? Was there anything else or is that it?
00:55:02 <DrWhat> Macbeth dont be soo mean :(
00:56:16 <Macbeth> I'm dealing with newbs in #anonnews and im getting these messages while im trying to help them
00:56:22 <Macbeth> knock it off
00:57:02 <Macbeth> botpie91, tell macbeth: Anyone can send messages through botpie91, so pay no attention to what it says. its a bot
00:57:03 <botpie91> You can tell yourself that.
00:58:15 <DrWhat> Macbeth you fool
00:58:16 <DrWhat> XD
01:01:06 <Macbeth> DrWhat: Sven is gay, so I don't think that he's going to love you using your bot to send anti-gay shit
01:01:07 <botpie91> Macbeth: 01:00Z <DrWhat> tell Macbeth Nothing
01:01:25 <DrWhat> botpie91 !!!!
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01:07:31 * Macbeth is away:
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01:20:37 <DrWhat> joepie92 I was reading over my source
01:20:40 <DrWhat> and i was wondering
01:20:46 <DrWhat> I did this right didnt i?
01:20:46 <DrWhat> https://github.com/DrWhatNoName/cryptbin/blob/master/src/class/paste.class.php#L21-L31
01:20:54 <DrWhat> Get the ID of the paste just submited
01:21:15 <joepie92> er, sec
01:21:54 <joepie92> you need lastInsertId()
01:22:07 <DrWhat> is that a part od PDO?
01:22:09 <DrWhat> so
01:22:10 <joepie92> yes
01:22:17 <DrWhat> $query->lastinsertid();
01:22:52 <joepie92> $database->lastInsertId();
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01:24:14 <R0y4lty> cc joepie92 drwhat macbeth icetwy
01:24:25 <joepie92> R0y4lty
01:24:29 <joepie92> seriously
01:24:30 <joepie92> last time
01:24:32 <joepie92> CHANNEL RULES
01:24:38 <joepie92> I am getting tired of having to tell people this all the time
01:24:42 <DrWhat> well yeah, I have to add the function to the $database class
01:24:52 <joepie92> go discuss this in your own channel if you really want to
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01:30:16 <DrWhat> I joined his channel hes not in
01:30:37 <DrWhat> speaking of hich
01:30:40 <DrWhat> im not in my channel
01:30:51 <joepie92> ...
01:30:58 * joepie92 mumbles something incomprehensible
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01:32:59 <wh1t3r4bb1t> seriously
01:33:11 <wh1t3r4bb1t> stupid script kiddies
01:33:35 * joepie92 raises an eyebrow
01:39:04 <IanCurtis> lol herpity derp guiz lez hax0r in a publicly logged channel lelsec
01:42:58 <R0y4lty> imma take a nap, cya
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02:18:56 <R0y4lty> vld
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02:31:35 <tommykaine> joepie91
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02:57:32 <Art> Hai
02:58:20 <Topiary> hello Art
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03:02:01 <tommykaine> topiary
03:02:06 <tommykaine> hello*
03:02:30 <Topiary> hello tommykaine
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03:18:13 <joepie92> Art!
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03:20:50 <Macbeth> Where the hell is botpie
03:20:59 <Macbeth> He's been on and off allday
03:22:27 <joepie92> Macbeth: botpie is here...
03:22:40 <Macbeth> Oh, alright
03:22:52 <Macbeth> He's not opped so i didnt see him derp
03:23:01 <Macbeth> Can u get him on opnewblood?
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04:07:16 <IanCurtis> just downloaded a book to learn mysql
04:07:26 <IanCurtis> ugh concentration will be needed ol
04:07:32 <joepie92> mysql :(
04:07:35 <joepie92> well, sql in general :(
04:07:46 <IanCurtis> good to know things by hand and so forth
04:07:50 <joepie92> it's not a very friendly language to learn
04:07:57 <IanCurtis> hm really?
04:08:01 <IanCurtis> never learned it
04:08:06 <IanCurtis> so this is my first crack
04:08:14 * wh1t3r4bb1t luls
04:08:24 <joepie92> IanCurtis: I do recommend learning it
04:08:30 <joepie92> but it's still going to be unfriendly :)
04:08:44 <IanCurtis> I'll keep a pistol nearby incase I need to ragequit life. :P
04:09:58 * wh1t3r4bb1t luls even harder
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04:21:35 <joepie92> IanCurtis: don't, you'll end up shooting the book
04:21:51 <IanCurtis> lolol
04:21:54 <IanCurtis> i tpb'd it
04:22:00 <IanCurtis> so it would be my monitor :P
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04:33:28 <joepie92> IanCurtis: worse :(
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05:09:16 <ElectRo`> ssl over tor hasnt been working for me past couple of days
05:09:45 <ElectRo`> it usually takes a couple of tries but nil
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06:04:59 <Dwaan> n e joepie91
06:05:09 <Macbeth> EH?
06:05:37 <Dwaan> EH?
06:05:47 <Macbeth> What are you asking?
06:05:50 <Macbeth> <Dwaan> n e joepie91
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06:13:28 <Dwaan> do you english
06:13:30 <Dwaan> n e = any
06:14:00 <Macbeth> Well, I do. I'm not sure that you do.
06:17:35 <Dwaan> oh got
06:17:36 <Dwaan> *god
06:17:38 <Dwaan> the autism
06:17:54 <Macbeth> Are you to lasy to type "any"?
06:18:08 <Macbeth> And I don't know what "Do you endlish" means...
06:18:14 <Macbeth> Here's what it should be?
06:18:19 <Macbeth> "Do you speak english?"
06:19:15 <Dwaan> i should ddos you
06:19:25 <Macbeth> Please do
06:19:33 <Macbeth> I await your attack
06:24:35 <Dwaan> DrWhat,
06:35:07 <Macbeth> Yeah... DrWhat knows that there is no way that you can get my ip address through all the layers of security that I have, Dwaan.
06:35:32 <Macbeth> Good luck with your shit language abilities and your disability to understand how IRC and DDoS works
06:39:16 <Dwaan> LOL
06:51:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Is this where all the summerfags ended up?
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06:51:34 <Macbeth> ha ha ha
06:52:01 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Both of you are acting like 9 year olds.
06:54:30 <wh1t3r4bb1t> That's what I thought.
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07:08:16 <Dwaan> NOBODY CARES
07:08:42 <Topiary> nobodycares, someones looking for u
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07:09:04 <Dwaan> fake Topiary
07:09:05 <Dwaan> get out
07:09:49 <blackcyber> don't worry he just a die hard fan of topiary
07:12:20 <Topiary> yes blackcyber
07:12:36 <Topiary> and Dwaan whats ur problem hating on fans of jake?
07:12:48 <Dwaan> impersonation
07:12:48 <Dwaan> is low
07:13:47 <Topiary> im not impersonating him. mind u, the use of nicks of any kind is free for everyone to choose.
07:15:02 <Dwaan> are you too fucking retarded
07:15:06 <Dwaan> to come up with your own
07:15:13 <Dwaan> rather than try get noticed by using someone elses
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07:16:33 <Topiary> Dwaan, i cld come up with my own but its not because im lazy. besides,did u know that topiary wasnt first used by jake? in fact, topiary just means "carved hedge".
07:16:56 <IanCurtis> Topiary, Are you a troll?
07:17:00 <IanCurtis> honestly... please just sotp
07:17:01 <IanCurtis> stop*
07:17:06 <Dwaan> ^
07:17:11 <Dwaan> i like this guy
07:17:46 <Dwaan> Topiary, how severe is your autism
07:17:47 <IanCurtis> Thanks dwaan. I hate to ask a favor of you in like the first three seconds of knowing you.... lol but me and some guys are working on something for opsyria. Can you help out?
07:17:58 <Topiary> IanCurtis, srsly r u on his side dude?
07:18:02 <IanCurtis> Topiary, yes
07:18:12 <IanCurtis> because using the nick "Topiary" is retarded
07:18:18 <Dwaan> >dont be autistic
07:18:20 <Dwaan> >make friends
07:18:22 <Dwaan> +1
07:18:27 <Dwaan> whats the plan IanCurtis
07:18:41 <IanCurtis> Dwaan, Gonna keep that talk out of this chan. May I PM?
07:18:50 <Dwaan> ya
07:18:52 <Dwaan> brb smoke but
07:19:01 <IanCurtis> Okay.
07:19:07 <Dwaan> kill yourself while im gone Topiary
07:19:19 <Topiary> IanCurtis, whatever suits u. just saying u shouldnt judge anyone by their nick and the use of any type is permitted
07:19:49 <Topiary> Dwaan, gfy (both meanings)
07:20:02 <IanCurtis> sigh
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08:02:33 <Dwaan> i lold
08:06:47 <Dwaan> Topiary:
08:06:47 <Dwaan> Topiary:
08:06:50 <Topiary> sayonara dwaan u antisec dude
08:07:36 <Dwaan> do you even VPN?
08:08:04 <Topiary> nope
08:09:02 <Dwaan> oh
08:09:09 <Dwaan> can i ddos you
08:09:41 <Topiary> wld advise u not to
08:09:46 <Topiary> its risky :)
08:09:52 <Dwaan> oh
08:12:13 <Dwaan> Topiary: i use this one
08:12:22 <Dwaan> http://order.deniablevpn.net/plans-pricing.php
08:12:24 <Dwaan> its p good
08:12:51 <Topiary> okay...
08:13:29 <Dwaan> dat pricing
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08:22:57 <IanCurtis> lysobit, if you don't stop idling I'm going to rage. Sorry.
08:28:21 <LastOneStanding> hi
08:30:14 <norbert79> IanCurtis: There, there, it will be alright, I am not idling, if that makes you happy... :)
08:30:40 <IanCurtis> I think lysobit is not Mustafa but actually a federal log bot
08:30:51 <IanCurtis> designed to suck the contents of our minds from our heads and sell it to the CIA
08:31:16 <LastOneStanding> i thought the nsa was already doing that
08:31:20 <IanCurtis> Yes that makes far more sense than him simply being busy...
08:31:38 <IanCurtis> haha. Joke's on the NSA. I'm wearing a tinfoil hat to stop their evil brain waves
08:31:46 <LastOneStanding> me tooo
08:32:37 <LastOneStanding> oka y ima tryto sleep
08:32:39 <wh1t3r4bb1t> loggy, get me a pizza.
08:32:41 <LastOneStanding> goodnigh
08:33:03 <IanCurtis> alright LastOneStanding
08:33:06 <IanCurtis> have a good sleep, mate.
08:33:10 <norbert79> :)
08:33:27 <wh1t3r4bb1t> loggy, google IanCurtis
08:33:27 <norbert79> I hope the NSA has some nice chicks, because they can suck moe, than my brains
08:33:38 <IanCurtis> .google iancurtis
08:33:43 <IanCurtis> aww that doesn't work here
08:33:48 <norbert79> .g Test
08:33:49 <botpie91> norbert79: http://www.test.com/
08:33:50 <IanCurtis> norbert79, toplel
08:33:54 <IanCurtis> .g iancurtis
08:33:55 <botpie91> IanCurtis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Curtis
08:33:58 <IanCurtis> there
08:34:06 <wh1t3r4bb1t> loggy, you suck.
08:34:28 <wh1t3r4bb1t> botpie is way cooler
08:35:03 <norbert79> "... resulting in the band's dissolution and the subsequent formation of New Order."
08:35:06 <norbert79> Errr
08:35:19 <norbert79> so I can thank the death of Ian for New Order to be born?
08:35:22 <wh1t3r4bb1t> botpie91, stop picking your nose it's gross
08:35:24 <IanCurtis> Yeah basically
08:35:24 <norbert79> That seems a bit weird
08:35:30 <IanCurtis> but Joy Division was far better tbh
08:35:31 <norbert79> because I love New Order
08:35:45 <IanCurtis> I think Ian Curtis really WAS Joy Division
08:35:47 <norbert79> Might need to listen to Joy Division too
08:35:51 <IanCurtis> you should
08:36:01 <IanCurtis> Listen to full albums... "Unknown Pleasures" and "Closer"
08:36:13 <IanCurtis> guy was a lyrical genius and the story is tragic as hell
08:36:36 <norbert79> Those arty types are always depressed, I could never understand why
08:36:58 <norbert79> I mean they are great expressing feelings, emotions, lyrics but all escape into suicide
08:37:07 <wh1t3r4bb1t> .g Drovac Project
08:37:08 <botpie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/anthony-scolpino/40/b25/406
08:37:16 <IanCurtis> yeah it's very interesting
08:37:30 <IanCurtis> I think much of that skill and way with words comes from strong feelings
08:37:31 <norbert79> IanCurtis: Ironic more like, imo
08:37:31 <wh1t3r4bb1t> .g Scuttle Butt
08:37:32 <botpie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/
08:37:42 <IanCurtis> and I think there's a link between depression and emotional content
08:37:56 <norbert79> IanCurtis: It's like how Blues was born... It sure made a lot of people go suicidal
08:38:04 <norbert79> but also inspired many
08:38:33 <IanCurtis> Yeah. I like music that depresses me, despite not being a depressed person by nature
08:38:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t> .g fiddlesticks
08:38:42 <botpie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fiddlesticks
08:38:45 <IanCurtis> no intentions to commit suicide or anything, but depressing music is just the best
08:39:00 <norbert79> Which reminds me of Lili Marleen, which was banned by the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht in the war, because it made soldiers wanting to fight less
08:39:37 <IanCurtis> ha. funny isn't it? Give us music and we stop killing each other
08:39:55 <norbert79> IanCurtis: Yeah, or colour your room pink.. It calms you
08:40:05 <norbert79> IanCurtis: Weird.
08:40:07 <IanCurtis> all my friends: "faggot"
08:40:10 <IanCurtis> XD
08:40:23 <norbert79> IanCurtis: 15 minutes later: "Would you like to have your tea with sugar or milk?"
08:40:27 <IanCurtis> hahaha
08:41:03 <norbert79> And a day later "Does this make my bumm look big?"
08:41:20 <IanCurtis> it just gets worse and worse
08:41:31 <norbert79> Crazy... But seriously, colours have indeed emotional effects
08:41:39 <norbert79> want to see something frightening?
08:41:43 <IanCurtis> sure
08:41:49 <norbert79> So talking about colours
08:42:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t> .g DeVorac
08:42:04 <botpie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
08:42:10 <norbert79> the Hungarian gov. decided, that they re-state the selling of tobacco and those are only being allowed to be sold in dedicated stores
08:42:16 <norbert79> let me show you one of those stores
08:42:22 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Ah close enough
08:42:54 <norbert79> IanCurtis: http://www.origo.hu/i/1305/20130515-nemzeti-dohanybolt-arculat-kep-a-kezikonyvbol1.jpg - Inside
08:43:02 <norbert79> IanCurtis: http://www.origo.hu/i/1305/20130515-nemzeti-dohanybolt-arculat-kep-a-kezikonyvbol.jpg - Outside...
08:43:15 <IanCurtis> looks mighty presidential
08:43:19 <IanCurtis> fancy
08:43:25 <norbert79> Fucking depressing
08:43:31 <norbert79> One of the real places http://mork.vagy.hu/Scopes/vagy/var//improxy/VagyBigPicture/27649.jpg
08:43:48 <norbert79> sellers complain about constant depression
08:43:53 <norbert79> you are not allowed opening any windows
08:43:57 <norbert79> you must use AC
08:44:09 <norbert79> also you cannot see what's going on outside
08:44:29 <IanCurtis> is it to related tobacco to depression and thus cut down on smoking?
08:44:32 <norbert79> around 5-10 have been already robbed, despite precautional steps
08:44:40 <norbert79> No
08:44:42 <norbert79> it's the colour
08:44:54 <norbert79> You are alone in the store, sometimes 12 hours a day
08:45:06 <norbert79> You don't see what's going on in the outside
08:45:11 <norbert79> it's quite as hell inside
08:45:17 <norbert79> and you are legally not allowed to open windows
08:45:35 <IanCurtis> sounds awful
08:45:42 <norbert79> Like a regular day at one of the multi-national companies :)
08:45:52 <IanCurtis> bet a lot of hackers from networks like these live lifes like that though
08:45:53 <IanCurtis> :P
08:46:03 <IanCurtis> lives
08:46:05 <norbert79> Sure, but they don't sell tobacco
08:46:09 <norbert79> :)
08:46:12 <IanCurtis> SILK ROAD BRO
08:46:13 <norbert79> and they have Internet
08:46:18 <IanCurtis> THAT SHIT IS REAAAAAALLL
08:46:19 <norbert79> Right, true
08:46:24 <IanCurtis> nah just kidding
08:46:26 <IanCurtis> feds closed that shit down
08:46:27 <norbert79> :)
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08:46:37 <IanCurtis> okay I can see what that word can't be said
08:46:45 <norbert79> feds
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08:46:53 <norbert79> haha
08:47:09 <IanCurtis> joepie has a sensitive spot for three letter agencies XD
08:47:14 <norbert79> shit fuck cunt bloody hell bollocks
08:47:18 <norbert79> yep :)
08:47:31 <norbert79> ibm?
08:47:32 <norbert79> nope
08:47:34 <norbert79> cia
08:47:37 <norbert79> fbi
08:47:40 <norbert79> huh?
08:47:42 <norbert79> COme on
08:47:45 <norbert79> ban those too
08:47:58 <norbert79> federal reserve
08:48:03 <IanCurtis> LOL
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08:48:07 <IanCurtis> hahah
08:48:12 <norbert79> that is stupid :)
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08:49:13 <norbert79> I wonder if there is an English word, which has f e d in it, but not starts with an F
08:49:42 <norbert79> cuffed
08:49:43 <IanCurtis> hmm
08:49:45 <norbert79> ahha
08:49:46 <IanCurtis> yeah ther eyou go
08:50:07 <norbert79> so if it starts with fed, then it's banned
08:50:08 <wh1t3r4bb1t> definitely
08:50:17 <norbert79> haha, now I wasn't kicked
08:50:24 <IanCurtis> odd
08:50:31 <norbert79> I wonder if I just say Fed...
08:50:37 <norbert79> fed up with this?
08:50:37 <IanCurtis> hmmm
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08:50:44 <IanCurtis> LOL
08:50:51 <IanCurtis> joepie pls fix networkkthx
08:51:25 <norbert79> Ok, now I know how I can make people kicked
08:51:37 <norbert79> By asking them why they are so fed up by
08:51:42 <norbert79> their problems
08:51:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t> How?
08:51:46 <norbert79> :)
08:52:03 <norbert79> Aren't you fed up? -> Fed up? Why?
08:52:08 <norbert79> BAM
08:52:19 <wh1t3r4bb1t> But what if they are not fed up?
08:52:30 <norbert79> then you could still say, that you have tried
08:52:34 <norbert79> :)
08:53:04 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I dare you to say illuminati
08:53:12 <norbert79> The BBS?
08:53:16 <wh1t3r4bb1t> in the mirror
08:53:32 <wh1t3r4bb1t> three times with the lights off
08:53:36 <norbert79> lol
08:53:50 <norbert79> I have no Skype built into my mirror yet
08:54:01 <norbert79> to have it voice-dialed
08:54:16 <IanCurtis> that's why they call light refracting objects "PRISMs"...
08:54:27 <norbert79> Hmm, that gives me an idea: Home mirrors should act as terminals
08:54:36 <norbert79> as touch screen... Mirror when not used
08:55:17 <norbert79> Maybe it has already been done
08:56:05 <IanCurtis> this song pumps me up for leaking data so much
08:56:05 <IanCurtis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UljyYkQqMe8
08:56:59 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I'll be AFK till further notice.
08:57:17 <norbert79> I thought you were listening to some good old British rock... But no, as being an Ian Curtis fan you have just disappointed me a bit for now ;-)
08:57:23 <norbert79> wh1t3r4bb1t: Have fun! :)
08:57:35 <IanCurtis> norbert79, but AntiSec... :((
08:57:38 <IanCurtis> i miss.
08:57:45 <norbert79> IanCurtis: Alright, acceptable... :)
08:58:10 <IanCurtis> alright -- mark my words. Next major thing I do is totally going under the antisec banner :P
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08:58:22 <IanCurtis> that picture is so awesome
08:58:25 <norbert79> Just be careful :)
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08:59:17 <IanCurtis> 'course. as always. ;)
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08:59:44 <norbert79> Damn, I really need to fix my issues with my host
08:59:53 <IanCurtis> what's wrong with it?
09:00:18 <norbert79> Asked one to do a nice scan of my device, he came back with a huge long list of Webapp issues and some other minor things
09:00:29 <norbert79> I just need to find time for fixing all
09:00:42 <norbert79> and some money for a proper SSL cert...
09:00:46 <norbert79> to please generic viewers
09:00:56 <IanCurtis> ahh for a site
09:00:59 <IanCurtis> thought you meant for IRC
09:01:01 <norbert79> Yes, partly
09:01:05 <norbert79> Nah, I don't host IRC
09:01:13 <norbert79> rest of the services cause me enough headaches :)
09:01:37 <IanCurtis> I wonder if NSA have their own IRC server
09:01:43 <IanCurtis> would love to go there and troll
09:01:45 <norbert79> Highly doubtful
09:01:48 <norbert79> but some companies do
09:02:07 <norbert79> I know one, with also three letters in their name, they host their own IRC network
09:02:14 <IanCurtis> rly?
09:02:16 <norbert79> not a huge one, but there are a handful
09:02:23 <IanCurtis> would love to troll them
09:02:30 <norbert79> nah, they are fine guys
09:02:38 <IanCurtis> not LEA?
09:02:42 <norbert79> mostly British and Australian
09:02:43 <norbert79> No
09:02:45 <IanCurtis> ah
09:03:04 <norbert79> you can't online from the outside
09:03:09 <norbert79> can't get online
09:03:16 <norbert79> You must be able to access their network first
09:03:22 <IanCurtis> ohh
09:03:31 <norbert79> I used to work for them actually :)
09:03:32 <IanCurtis> brb opening PuTTy
09:03:32 <IanCurtis> jk lol
09:04:06 <norbert79> putty reminds me: I shall really measure how many visited my mirror of the telnet nyan cat
09:04:34 <IanCurtis> LOL
09:04:35 <IanCurtis> awesome
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09:08:27 <iceTwy> aloha
09:08:39 <IanCurtis> oh fuck
09:08:41 <IanCurtis> Topiary is back
09:08:49 <Topiary> hello there iceTwy!
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09:09:08 <iceTwy> damn
09:09:17 <iceTwy> I didn't sleep this night, couldn't close my eyes
09:09:44 <iceTwy> because I'd gone to sleep much earlier that I should have, due to the fact that I had to wake up early this morning
09:09:49 <iceTwy> but anyway
09:09:53 <iceTwy> feels weird to be up at 8.45AM
09:10:00 <iceTwy> (when not at school)
09:11:24 <norbert79> 11:11 am over here
09:12:07 <norbert79> feels weird being up at 8:45? :)) I woke up 5:30 AM yesterday :)
09:15:47 <iceTwy> norbert79: I wake up at 7.20AM usually, but I'm on holidays atm
09:15:58 <iceTwy> and I can't manage to go to sleep any earlier than 4-*5AM
09:16:01 <iceTwy> 4-5AM*
09:16:10 <iceTwy> so I end up waking at noon/12.30PM
09:16:21 <Topiary> haha on schooddays i wake up at 5+
09:16:28 <norbert79> iceTwy: Nice :)
09:16:54 <Topiary> early huh :(
09:18:38 <iceTwy> also
09:18:44 <iceTwy> fuck the NSA, once again
09:18:51 <iceTwy> the last thing you want is pissed off French people
09:18:52 <iceTwy> believe me
09:18:54 <iceTwy> http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2013/10/22/the-nsa-wiretapped-french-diplomats-in-the-us_3500733_651865.html
09:20:51 <Topiary> that sucks
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09:26:07 <iceTwy> ~omfg
09:26:15 <iceTwy> I got retweeted by @_cypherpunks_
09:26:16 <iceTwy> :D:D
09:29:35 <norbert79> An interesting add here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfgoDDh4kE0 - This video is no longer available: The Day One Garry's Incident...
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10:55:18 <Dwaan> h
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11:01:41 <norbert79> :)
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11:07:06 <Dwaan> what is this [off] shit
11:07:08 <Dwaan> get out of here
11:07:31 <norbert79> Dwaan: You must be new :)
11:07:44 <Dwaan> no
11:07:45 <iceTwy> Dwaan: this channel is publically logged. [off] keeps messages off the records
11:07:50 <Dwaan> i see
11:07:59 <iceTwy> then I have my own reasons for using [off]
11:08:00 <Dwaan> publicly logged
11:08:00 <Dwaan> why
11:08:01 <iceTwy> ;)
11:08:04 <Dwaan> that is stupid
11:08:12 <iceTwy> for the sake of referring to logs if there's something interesting
11:08:17 <iceTwy> and keeping up with usually long discussions
11:08:23 <norbert79> also, it is announced
11:08:26 <iceTwy> yup
11:08:28 <iceTwy> in /topic
11:09:13 <norbert79> besides I find this kind of logging more fair, than some automated account/user to be online here and logging all
11:09:19 <norbert79> this way at elast everyone's aware
11:09:24 <norbert79> least
11:09:49 <iceTwy> yeah
11:10:06 <iceTwy> IRC clients log everything by default, and since most people don't disable logging on their IRC clients
11:10:08 <iceTwy> yeah
11:10:30 <norbert79> Well, most clients, XCHat and irssi don't by default
11:10:35 <iceTwy> but anyway. do you get what I'm feeling norbert79?
11:10:46 <iceTwy> I just /hate/ the feeling
11:10:53 <norbert79> Sure, but seriously it's a fight against a windmill
11:11:22 <norbert79> You can do some on your part
11:11:26 <norbert79> but not all
11:12:24 <norbert79> As we say: Slow shores wash bricks... If I got that right, hang on
11:12:53 <norbert79> Anyway, you get the idea... You can shape and form with time and with patience
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11:17:57 <iceTwy> here's the thing. if you post something on any social network or wherever, even
11:18:23 <iceTwy> that feds/whatever gov doesn't like, they'll get back to your address in no time, and knock at your door
11:18:37 <iceTwy> and don't tell me that they don't do it in 'democratic' countries
11:20:47 <DrWhat> [7:24:35am] (Dwaan) DrWhat,
11:20:47 <DrWhat> [7:35:07am] (Macbeth) Yeah... DrWhat knows that there is no way that you can get my ip address through all the layers of security that I have, Dwaan.
11:20:55 <DrWhat> dont doubt me
11:21:00 <Dwaan> rofl
11:21:06 <Dwaan> yo
11:21:19 <iceTwy> there is a way, DrWhat
11:21:24 <iceTwy> let me quote myself
11:21:43 <iceTwy> "It would be unlikely for those softwares to fail you. Errors will nearly always come from your side - you ought to have a perfect operations security if you do not want your data to be leaked. Remember to use your common sense."
11:22:05 <iceTwy> the softwares I was refering to: Tor, GPG, OTR, TrueCrypt
11:22:07 <DrWhat> macbeth
11:22:18 <DrWhat> Do you want to try out my crytpbin
11:22:27 <iceTwy> macbeth ain't here
11:22:31 <DrWhat> Ohh
11:22:34 <DrWhat> Fucker
11:22:56 <DrWhat> No such nickname joepie92
11:22:57 <DrWhat> >.>
11:23:03 <iceTwy> neither is joepie
11:23:08 <DrWhat> botpie91, tell joepie92 pong.
11:23:09 <botpie91> DrWhat: I'll pass that on when joepie92 is around.
11:23:15 <iceTwy> lol
11:23:16 <DrWhat> botpie91, tell joepie91 pong.
11:23:17 <botpie91> DrWhat: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
11:23:24 <Dwaan> botpie91, tell joepie92 im gay
11:23:25 <botpie91> Dwaan: I'll pass that on when joepie92 is around.
11:23:30 <Dwaan> botpie91, tell joepie91 im gay
11:23:31 <botpie91> Dwaan: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
11:23:35 <Dwaan> ok
11:23:55 <DrWhat> your going baneed
11:23:57 <DrWhat> b&
11:24:05 <DrWhat> B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&B&
11:24:20 <iceTwy> DrWhat: v&v&v&v&v&v&v&v&
11:24:27 <Dwaan> lol joepie will never ban me
11:24:28 <botpie91> Dwaan: 11:23Z <DrWhat> tell Dwaan nothing
11:25:02 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
11:25:03 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $193.27, 1 BTC = €145.98
11:25:09 <DrWhat> WOHOOO IM RICH
11:25:27 <iceTwy> no you're not
11:25:34 <DrWhat> Yes i am
11:25:51 <iceTwy> gief le BTC to me then
11:25:53 <iceTwy> ;o
11:25:58 <DrWhat> I have about $4000 worth of btc worth of btc right now
11:26:11 <iceTwy> noice
11:26:57 <DrWhat> who want secks theb#
11:27:07 <Dwaan> i just stole your wallet.dat
11:27:23 <norbert79> the only issue is: who are you going to sell those BTC? :)))
11:28:01 <norbert79> yep...
11:28:06 <DrWhat> good luck with it
11:28:14 <DrWhat> its encrypted
11:29:26 <Dwaan> i broke AES
11:29:32 <Dwaan> already
11:30:09 <norbert79> ePenis fight! :)
11:33:16 <Dwaan> lelel
11:35:18 <DrWhat> You know i had a dream a while ago on a method of how to steal btc
11:35:25 <DrWhat> I havnt tested it
11:35:30 <DrWhat> but in theroy is works
11:35:42 <DrWhat> on encrypted and unecrytped wallets
11:36:53 <Dwaan> lol
11:36:57 <Dwaan> your weird ideas never work
11:39:35 <DrWhat> im installing wget on windows XD
11:40:26 <Dwaan> big hecker
11:44:04 <norbert79> installing??
11:44:07 <norbert79> :)
11:44:16 <norbert79> Copy wget.exe into Windows\system and voila
11:46:56 <DrWhat> system32 will get messy then
11:47:13 <DrWhat> I have my own folder for 3rd party commands
11:47:45 <DrWhat> I has 1 question
11:48:01 <DrWhat> How the fuck do i installed these python extentions
11:48:10 <DrWhat> when all of them say i dont have python installed....
11:48:57 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1yykda
11:50:41 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1yykni
11:50:45 <DrWhat> twisted works
11:50:53 <DrWhat> But all these other stuff that twisted needs to work
11:51:00 <DrWhat> says i dont have python installed....
11:54:33 <iceTwy> DrWhat: lol Windows
11:54:34 * iceTwy laughs
11:54:38 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1yylak
11:54:46 <DrWhat> pyOpenSSL hasd no problems
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12:06:25 <Dwaan> lol windows
12:28:43 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
12:28:44 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $194.00, 1 BTC = €145.11
12:32:53 <DrWhat> https://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin
12:33:08 <DrWhat> thats why i stoped mining mining :)
12:33:13 <DrWhat> 500% loss
12:57:18 <R0y4lty> .bitcoin
12:57:19 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $192.50, 1 BTC = €146.90
12:57:25 <R0y4lty> damnit its dropping
12:57:42 <R0y4lty> good thing I sold out about $800 worth of btc when it reached $194/coin
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13:02:59 <cayce> oh it's still at 192, where it was most of yesterday
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13:03:11 <cayce> exciting
13:18:40 <cayce> NP: [Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger [feat. Christina Aguilera]] [Hands All Over [2011 Reissue]] [1008kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
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13:43:38 <DrWhat> ehhh joepie92
13:46:27 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1yz5na
13:46:31 <DrWhat> Array base LFI
13:46:34 <DrWhat> Possible?
13:46:38 <DrWhat> or not
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13:48:58 <joepie92> DrWhat
13:48:59 <botpie91> joepie92: 11:23Z <DrWhat> tell joepie92 pong.
13:48:59 <botpie91> joepie92: 11:23Z <Dwaan> tell joepie92 im gay
13:49:08 <joepie92> -why- do you have [] in your get vars
13:49:12 <joepie92> or rather
13:49:13 <joepie92> [thing]
13:49:45 <Dwaan> h
13:49:50 <DrWhat> Im testing
13:49:52 <joepie92> ohai.
13:50:03 <joepie92> also, Dwaan, I already knew you were gay
13:50:07 <Dwaan> joepie92:
13:50:11 <joepie92> :P
13:50:22 <Dwaan> open source/free web hosting control panel
13:50:23 <Dwaan> discuss
13:50:35 <joepie92> DrWhat: don't put [thing] in your GET vars, at the very most put [] in it but only if really appropriate
13:50:37 <DrWhat> CVM
13:50:42 <joepie92> Dwaan: good idea, but don't pull a zpanel
13:50:52 <Dwaan> lol exactly my thoughts
13:50:55 <joepie92> DrWhat: CVM is a VPS panel
13:50:57 <Dwaan> i need to set one up at work
13:51:07 <joepie92> there's webmin
13:51:09 <joepie92> er
13:51:11 <joepie92> yes
13:51:12 <joepie92> webmin
13:51:14 <Dwaan> zpanel looks nice but didnt want to use because of the security shit
13:51:15 <joepie92> also ispconfig
13:51:21 <joepie92> webmin and ispconfig are both reasonably secure afaik
13:51:29 <DrWhat> I like RouterOS
13:51:32 <joepie92> zpanel is a security disaster
13:51:32 <DrWhat> ^_6
13:51:36 <joepie92> Kloxo... yeah, let's not even start about that
13:51:47 <Dwaan> lolol
13:51:54 <Dwaan> ok thanks
13:51:55 <joepie92> it shares codebase with hypervm
13:51:58 <Dwaan> any others?
13:51:58 <joepie92> that should tell you enough
13:51:58 <joepie92> :P
13:52:06 <joepie92> um
13:52:07 <joepie92> yes
13:52:07 <joepie92> sec
13:52:11 <DrWhat> joepie92 i dont think you understand
13:52:18 <DrWhat> Im test Array base LFI
13:52:34 <DrWhat> Since that script loads file names from an array
13:52:43 <joepie92> Dwaan: if I am not mistaken, Ajenti is suitable for web hosting management
13:52:45 <joepie92> but the site seems down
13:53:10 <joepie92> http://openriau.com/news_images/314985537ajenti.png
13:53:29 <Dwaan> thanks ^_^
13:53:48 <joepie92> Dwaan: anyway, Ajenti is pretty new afaik
13:54:01 <joepie92> the 'proven panels' are ispconfig and webmin... but neither of them have a particularly pleasant interface
13:54:03 <joepie92> I mean, it works
13:54:05 <joepie92> and it's not terrible
13:54:07 <joepie92> just a little clunky
13:54:11 <Dwaan> yeah
13:54:20 <joepie92> basically what the norm for panels was 10 years ago
13:54:20 <Dwaan> i set up a zpanel today
13:54:26 <Dwaan> took one look at it running
13:54:27 <Dwaan> was like
13:54:47 <Dwaan> nooo way am i hosting clients stuff on this
13:54:50 <joepie92> lol
13:54:58 <joepie92> well, tbh, UI-wise it isn't bad
13:55:02 <joepie92> it's not fancy either
13:55:07 <joepie92> but most people will find their way around
13:55:09 <joepie92> a bit like cpanel
13:55:14 <joepie92> but reliability-wise... yeah
13:55:23 <joepie92> Dwaan: zsudo!
13:55:40 <Dwaan> yeah it looks really nice
13:55:42 <joepie92> because letting people execute arbitrary commands through a binary with setuid bit is an awesome idea!
13:55:45 <Dwaan> but the perms
13:55:56 <Dwaan> and levels shit runs as
13:56:03 <joepie92> Dwaan: zsudo
13:56:03 <joepie92> lol
13:56:03 <Dwaan> lol indeed
13:56:05 <joepie92> seriously
13:56:07 <joepie92> have you seen the code
13:56:08 <joepie92> for zsudo
13:56:11 <Dwaan> nope
13:56:14 <Dwaan> tell me more
13:56:16 <joepie92> you'll cry
13:56:16 <joepie92> sec
13:56:29 <joepie92> Dwaan: https://github.com/bobsta63/zpanelx/blob/master/etc/build/config_packs/centos_6_3/bin/zsudo.c
13:56:33 <joepie92> not kidding
13:56:38 <joepie92> this is actual current zsudo
13:57:19 <joepie92> I mean, when a panel tells you to make a config directory world-writable when you have permission problems, that's bad
13:57:22 <joepie92> but zsudo is just.. yeah
13:57:28 <joepie92> wrong in more than one way
13:57:39 <Dwaan> ........
13:57:42 <Dwaan> wow
13:57:42 <Dwaan> lol
14:00:10 <joepie92> Dwaan: genuinely wondering what the writer of this code was thinking
14:00:53 <Dwaan> drugs
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14:01:10 <joepie92> also, dwaan
14:01:15 <joepie92> did you see the isohunt archiving project?
14:03:42 <norbert79> joepie92: ZPanel drama again? :)
14:04:22 <norbert79> I almost forgat about ZPanel by now
14:05:02 <norbert79> btw that zsudo is just ridicolous :D
14:06:14 <joepie92> norbert79: nah, it's just still crap
14:06:15 <joepie92> :P
14:07:35 <norbert79> :)
14:10:50 <cayce> drugs... not enough I think
14:11:05 <cayce> I can't imagine enough drugs to make that a good idea
14:11:14 <cayce> so they must've been sober
14:11:28 <Dwaan> joepie92: yep
14:11:39 <Dwaan> i was working on joining a bunch of boxes right as it closed :(
14:14:00 <joepie92> Dwaan: :(
14:14:15 <Dwaan> how much did you end up getting
14:14:16 <joepie92> though, the estimate is that we managed to grab some 750k - 1 million torrents with metadata
14:14:22 <joepie92> but that's a rough preliminary estimate
14:14:30 <joepie92> unrelated, https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcx71eH8TG1rugeyto1_500.jpg
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14:15:17 <joepie92> related, http://25.media.tumblr.com/b4e742a1da3b7c4b2a14b2c3e156a2ea/tumblr_muu0gpHQGY1r3gb3zo1_400.gif
14:18:10 <cayce> stopcat
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14:20:26 <Dwaan> lol
14:20:27 <joepie92> lol
14:22:01 <norbert79> Hunting for the Red Cat
14:23:31 <cayce> j'y vais! au revoir! :)
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14:33:31 <norbert79> Can I read something about Topiary and why he is treated as bad omen?
14:34:03 <Dwaan> you mean real topiary or the idiot from in here
14:34:27 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
14:34:27 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $185.00, 1 BTC = €145.00
14:34:30 <norbert79> well, both actually... I don't know who is who
14:34:37 <DrWhat> :( its gone down $8
14:34:40 <Dwaan> the one in here
14:34:49 <Dwaan> is an autistic idiot
14:34:51 <Dwaan> the real one
14:34:52 <Dwaan> now gone
14:34:56 <Dwaan> is a good guy
14:35:19 <norbert79> how is he gone? What did he do? I know something about jail, but not much
14:35:53 <norbert79> Meanwhile I am googling too
14:36:25 <norbert79> ah, ok, found
14:39:33 <norbert79> joepie92: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/jun/24/lulzsec-irc-leak-the-full-record - :) I can see your name there
14:39:42 <Dwaan> lulzsec
14:39:48 <joepie92> oh no, not again...
14:39:50 <Dwaan> yes joepie92 is well known lulzsec leader
14:39:55 <joepie92> norbert79: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/hacker.html
14:39:55 <norbert79> S
14:40:07 <norbert79> joepie92: That's the full log?
14:40:24 <joepie92> norbert79: it's a copypaste from a pastebin
14:40:29 <joepie92> with some extra colors added
14:40:34 <joepie92> nothing 'exclusive' about it
14:40:37 <norbert79> ahh... :)
14:40:39 <joepie92> it'd been around on pastebin publicly for a month
14:40:43 <norbert79> FAQ so to tell
14:40:44 <joepie92> before the guardian decided to run with it
14:41:08 <joepie92> norbert79: anyway, be sure to read hacker.html
14:41:23 <norbert79> I am aware of your activities btw, I sometimes google around, but I am really not that fangirlish, it's just weird someone's name somewhere
14:41:38 <norbert79> whom you chat with
14:41:46 <norbert79> occasionally
14:41:56 <norbert79> It's like seeing my name in some other place
14:41:57 <joepie92> :P
14:42:09 <joepie92> used to be the same
14:42:12 <joepie92> but I've kinda gotten used to it
14:42:16 <joepie92> however strange it may sound
14:42:23 <norbert79> Nah, I understand
14:42:38 <norbert79> It's like when you need to sign your first official document about whatever
14:42:51 <norbert79> after the 100th time it starts becoming boring
14:43:12 <norbert79> I started to write my full name as signature
14:43:19 <norbert79> Now I am almost limiting it to three letters :D
14:43:41 <norbert79> too many paperwork for your faily needs
14:43:43 <norbert79> daily
14:43:51 <joepie92> lol
14:44:20 <norbert79> luckily my credit card now works with a PIN code too, no need to sign that anymore
14:44:43 <norbert79> not that luck cashiers ever check what do you write there
14:45:00 <norbert79> errr, wtf... how did that "luck" get there
14:45:18 <joepie92> norbert79; archaic US banking system!
14:45:24 <joepie92> we've had PIN codes for, what, 15 years now?
14:45:52 <norbert79> It was just recently, that Banks aroun d my place started replacing cards with magnetic strips to chip based
14:45:52 <Dwaan> lol same here
14:46:06 <joepie92> that happened some 4 years ago her
14:46:07 <norbert79> so now when you buy something you need to use your PIN
14:46:08 <joepie92> here *
14:46:12 <joepie92> but even with magnet strips we had PINs?
14:46:12 <Dwaan> lots here have strips still
14:46:21 <norbert79> well, it might be a bit earlier too, I just don't remmeber
14:46:25 <norbert79> We have both
14:46:26 <norbert79> for now
14:46:26 <Dwaan> mine does chip
14:46:29 <Dwaan> norbert79: US?
14:46:31 <norbert79> chip+strip
14:46:34 <norbert79> Dwaan: Nope
14:46:50 <norbert79> Dwaan: Not even the American continent :)
14:46:58 <joepie92> sadly the archaic US banking system doesn't extend to just the US...
14:46:59 <Dwaan> o
14:47:16 <joepie92> anyway, we currently have chip+strip cards with PINs
14:47:21 <norbert79> same
14:47:27 <joepie92> as does most of western europe now
14:47:27 <norbert79> even for those cheap accounts too
14:48:35 <joepie92> http://hackaday.com/2013/10/22/usb-implementers-forum-says-no-to-open-source/
14:48:48 <Dwaan> joepie92:
14:48:56 <Dwaan> is paypass/paywave a standard there?
14:49:25 <joepie92> Dwaan: never heard of it
14:49:33 <Dwaan> on bank cards
14:49:34 <joepie92> Maestro is what's commonly used here
14:49:36 <norbert79> joepie92: Add this to your FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/hacker.html
14:49:39 <Dwaan> lets you just tap it on the machine
14:49:44 <Dwaan> no swipe or insert
14:49:48 <Dwaan> RF chip
14:49:50 <joepie92> Dwaan: I don't think we have that
14:49:54 <Dwaan> wow
14:49:58 <joepie92> possibly for the better
14:50:06 <Dwaan> +1 australia
14:50:09 <Dwaan> lol youre right
14:50:14 <Dwaan> my phone can read the cards
14:50:20 <Dwaan> from ~4cm away
14:50:29 <Dwaan> so i can grab peoples card numbers from their pocket
14:50:34 <joepie92> Dwaan: pretty much the point
14:50:35 <joepie92> lol
14:50:43 <joepie92> I'm not a fan of RFID as it is currently implemented
14:50:45 <Dwaan> and copy them onto a blank one
14:50:47 <Dwaan> ya
14:50:59 <joepie92> we do have RFID public transport cards
14:51:01 <joepie92> mifare classic
14:51:06 <joepie92> which of course turned out to be a fucking disaster
14:51:07 <Dwaan> same
14:51:13 <joepie92> as basically the entire Dutch population had already predicted
14:51:18 <joepie92> it's kinda weird
14:51:25 <Dwaan> how was it a disaster
14:51:27 <joepie92> we have an incredibly IT-competent government
14:51:31 <joepie92> always
14:51:45 <joepie92> but 'the population at large' has been able to collectively predict basically every single IT govt failure
14:51:54 <joepie92> usually down to the point of "this is how it'll go wrong"
14:52:04 <joepie92> you'd expect some of that knowledge to transfer to govt...
14:52:10 <joepie92> Dwaan: uh...
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14:52:14 <joepie92> well, for starters, the chip got pwnt
14:52:23 <joepie92> and cards could be easily cloned and spoofed
14:52:46 <joepie92> then it turned out that the 'anonymous' cards had a really short expiration date
14:52:53 <norbert79> btw afaik bank cards offer RFID chipped cards and regular chipped cards... I have a regular one
14:52:56 <joepie92> and that to transfer over balance you had to give up your ID (!)
14:53:08 <joepie92> then it turned out that every single trip you made was recorded permanently
14:53:13 <joepie92> basically
14:53:26 <joepie92> then it turned out that anonymous cards weren't actually anonymous
14:53:35 <joepie92> because they were linked to your bank account if you topped them up using a bank card
14:53:43 <joepie92> and there's less and less places where you can top up with cash
14:53:52 <joepie92> tl;dr it's a security disaster and a privacy disaster
14:54:32 <joepie92> "ov chipkaart" is the google term for some lulz
14:54:53 <MK_FG> Huh, it's weird that that lulzsec logs also have joepie92, not 91
14:54:58 <joepie92> oh and half the stuff related to that card, like the poles you use for checking in/out
14:55:03 <joepie92> doesn't actually work properly yet
14:55:08 <joepie92> randomly breaks or doesn't scan your card properly
14:55:09 <joepie92> etc.
14:55:16 <joepie92> so add "technological disaster" to that list
14:55:18 <MK_FG> Guess they updated them to mention your new nick until you recover the old one ;)
14:55:58 <norbert79> MK_FG: joepie got promoted.. ssh... then demoted, then promoted again... He is like James T Kirk
14:56:35 <MK_FG> Heh
14:56:43 *** joepie92 is now known as joepie91
14:56:48 <joepie91> :P
14:56:49 <botpie91> joepie91: 11:23Z <DrWhat> tell joepie91 pong.
14:56:49 <botpie91> joepie91: 11:23Z <Dwaan> tell joepie91 im gay
14:56:55 <joepie91> really?
14:57:00 <norbert79> hahaha
14:57:03 <joepie91> -really-?
14:57:08 * joepie91 sighs
14:57:09 <MK_FG> Late trek has JTK as "The Most Incompetent Starship Captain in Teh Galaxy" :P
14:57:14 <joepie91> also
14:57:17 <joepie91> brb supermarket
14:57:25 <norbert79> MK_FG: Those last two movies do not exist, ok?
14:57:30 <norbert79> MK_FG: Never did
14:57:35 <norbert79> MK_FG: Like Matrix
14:57:41 <norbert79> MK_FG: It only had one episode
14:57:45 <MK_FG> There's just no way back now ;(
14:57:49 <norbert79> MK_FG: Are we clear on that?
14:57:51 <MK_FG> IT CANNOT BE UNSEEN
14:57:57 <MK_FG> OH GOD MY BRAIN
14:58:06 <DrWhat> joepie91 i didnt know what username you would come on with
14:58:13 <DrWhat> So i had to choose both
14:58:14 <DrWhat> :P
14:58:15 <MK_FG> Actually, I saw funny review on Matrix 3...
14:58:30 <joepie91> errrrr
14:58:32 <MK_FG> ...which ignored plot about Neo and crap entirely
14:58:33 <norbert79> Matrix 3 didn't happen... it was named as Matrix by mistake
14:58:34 <joepie91> remember when I said brb supermarket?
14:58:39 <norbert79> joepie91: Yes
14:58:42 <joepie91> I... forgot what I wanted to get.
14:58:46 * joepie91 confused
14:58:46 <norbert79> joepie91: AAHAHAH
14:58:52 <joepie91> like
14:58:54 <norbert79> joepie91: Get some Schultenbräu :)
14:58:56 <MK_FG> And focused solely on action and characters involved in robot fight
14:58:58 <joepie91> I was about to walk out the door
14:59:00 <joepie91> and realized
14:59:05 <joepie91> "wtf am I actually going to the supermarket for"
14:59:11 <joepie91> :|
14:59:12 <MK_FG> And movie mad so much sense then ;)
14:59:15 <MK_FG> *made
14:59:19 <MK_FG> *so much more
14:59:23 <joepie91> norbert79: nop, don't drink alcohol still :)
14:59:30 <joepie91> but good job on guessing the correct supermarket
14:59:40 <joepie91> seriously though, wtf was I going to get
14:59:45 <joepie91> I'm confused lol
14:59:47 <MK_FG> Food?
14:59:55 <norbert79> joepie91: Who said it was meant for you? :)) But this is new to me.. I used to not drink alcohol until 23 either
14:59:56 <joepie91> I have food
14:59:57 <joepie91> so does the cat
15:00:12 <joepie91> Aldi doesn't carry much besides food
15:00:18 <joepie91> so, :|
15:00:22 <norbert79> Veggies?
15:00:23 <norbert79> Soup?
15:00:28 <norbert79> Household things?
15:00:32 <norbert79> Handkerschiefs?
15:00:32 <joepie91> I don't really ever eat soup
15:00:40 <joepie91> only household things I need aren't at the Aldi
15:00:42 <norbert79> paper towels
15:00:49 <norbert79> Btw wer have Aldi too
15:00:50 <MK_FG> Spine of the checkout guy as a trophy!
15:00:55 <joepie91> lol
15:00:58 <norbert79> but they don't sell Schultenbräu around my place
15:01:02 <norbert79> bastards
15:01:05 <joepie91> norbert79: it's quite popular here
15:01:08 <joepie91> it is supposedly very good
15:01:15 <norbert79> I know... One word: Maaskantje
15:01:29 <joepie91> LOL
15:01:30 <norbert79> And now you are aware
15:01:32 <joepie91> no
15:01:32 <norbert79> :)
15:01:33 <joepie91> don't do that
15:01:33 <joepie91> lol
15:01:36 <norbert79> Ahahahaha
15:01:51 <norbert79> But at least you get the idea :)
15:01:51 <norbert79> now
15:02:04 <norbert79> Hey, it got famous outside the borders too
15:02:08 <norbert79> blame Scooter
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15:03:09 <norbert79> I shall not mention then, that Broodje Bakpao is my ringtone
15:03:51 <norbert79> Fuck, forgat to replace the batteries for my office lappy
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15:05:13 <MK_FG> On the topic of batteries - can UPS catch fire?
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15:06:22 <MK_FG> I woke up from a weird nightmare about an hour ago, in which apparently it did, so now I wonder...
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15:06:33 <joepie91> lolol
15:07:06 <norbert79> back
15:07:22 <norbert79> hah, this was amazing... Took me two minutes to get back, didn't lose connection
15:07:57 <norbert79> MK_FG: If manufactured in China by chimps, then yes... In general UPS's are safe from overheating or short-circuit, but you can never know
15:08:05 <norbert79> MK_FG: In general it mustn't
15:09:04 <MK_FG> That's good to know
15:09:39 <norbert79> I saw LCD displays catch fire
15:09:47 <norbert79> but no idea on the brand
15:10:27 <MK_FG> LEDs there can heat that much, huh?
15:10:30 <norbert79> normally factory default things, if untouched are normally safe, but there is always a minimal risk
15:11:00 <norbert79> sometimes people fiddle with the fuse
15:11:06 <norbert79> which then can cause issues
15:11:08 <joepie91> urgh, I guess I won't be going to the store
15:11:13 <joepie91> wtf brain.
15:11:15 <norbert79> joepie91: Raining?
15:11:21 <norbert79> ah, BRAINing
15:11:25 <norbert79> sorry
15:11:27 <norbert79> :)
15:11:28 <joepie91> norbert79: no, I just can't recall what I needed to go to the store for
15:11:28 <joepie91> :|
15:11:29 <MK_FG> Actually, if it's not short-circuit, shouldn't they dim real fast due to poor heat dissapation on LEDs?
15:11:54 <norbert79> MK_FG: No idea, I only saw images of a fire where my father was also working on, he used to be a fire-fighter
15:13:17 <MK_FG> Let's hope I won't dream about displays sending flames at me next time ;)
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15:25:54 <norbert79> I woke up to my doorbell monday morning... At least i thought someone was using it... I am still not sure if it really was
15:25:59 <norbert79> it was 5:30 am
15:27:19 <norbert79> reading that backlog joepie91 ...: Jun 04 18:38:58 joepie91 that IE will thus be integrated deeply into the system - Windows already integrated the IE into their code since Windows 98... Windows 8 was nothing new regarding this... Sadly :(
15:27:41 <norbert79> Although it's amazing how easy they leave codes behind, like how they dropped Silverlight...
15:31:33 <MK_FG> Doorbell is so annoying
15:32:27 <MK_FG> Not only anyone can demand your immediate attention via it, but also physical presence!
15:33:19 <norbert79> I live in a blockhouse/condo, but the issue is, that hall lights can be only used from the hall (so the area between the flats)
15:33:46 <norbert79> I am thinking about leading that wire into my flat too and add a switch for myself so i can turn on the hall lights from inside my flat too
15:34:07 <norbert79> people sometimes knock on your door while the lights are off and it's pitch dark
15:35:34 <MK_FG> Maybe just disable the doorbell and make sure door is sound-proof enough so they won't bother knocking
15:35:37 <norbert79> It's similar to those what you have, old soviet licensed
15:35:43 <norbert79> http://pctrs.network.hu/clubblogpicture/1/5/3/_/153521_172640043_big.jpg
15:35:52 <norbert79> Nah, doorbell is easy to disable
15:36:06 <norbert79> it's basically the door-bell phone at the main entrance
15:36:13 <norbert79> it is using the same circuit for the doorbell too
15:36:16 <norbert79> it serves as both
15:36:27 <MK_FG> And instead a) authenticate themselves by knowing ur number b) by voice c) state their business d) will start calling in advance, since its same channel ;)
15:36:32 <joepie91> <MK_FG>Doorbell is so annoying
15:36:33 <joepie91> yes
15:36:37 <norbert79> so if I pick up that "phone" and set it aisde the doorbell gets disabled too
15:37:04 <joepie91> I've learned that doorbell means either "raid", "I need one of your housemates and he isn't home", or "I want to talk to you even though you don't have time"
15:37:31 <norbert79> joepie91: In my case it's different... besides, in the case of a raid police doesn't use it, they just enter :))
15:37:45 <norbert79> they yell forst of course :)
15:37:47 <norbert79> first
15:38:04 <MK_FG> That block looks kinda similar to local soviet designs, but fairly sure I won't mistake it for local architecture ;)
15:38:18 <norbert79> all of those have been renovated
15:38:22 <MK_FG> It's like same thing, but... different
15:38:23 <norbert79> that's why the different look
15:38:39 <norbert79> they added a plastic foam layer to the outside
15:38:42 <norbert79> and painted it
15:38:55 <norbert79> let me find a picture of pre 2006 era
15:39:08 <MK_FG> The balconies are all wrong, size of the thing seem off, different windows, ...
15:39:18 <norbert79> we have many different types
15:39:27 <norbert79> Soviet license, Swedish and French
15:39:34 <norbert79> mostly old Soviet
15:39:46 <joepie91> damnit
15:39:50 <joepie91> I hate it when I see a nickname
15:39:54 <joepie91> and I know I recognize it from IRC
15:39:55 <joepie91> but I forgot where
15:39:57 <MK_FG> Also, 9-story building never built as towers here (or I never seen one)
15:40:12 <MK_FG> And that things on top look way off
15:40:12 <norbert79> MK_FG: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Budapest-%C3%9Ajpalota_2.JPG - one of those types of houses
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15:41:17 <MK_FG> Type, yeah, but it's funny how they're all different from any house here ;)
15:41:40 <norbert79> Yeah, I am aware how Russian block houses look :)
15:41:49 <norbert79> It's different, but the technology was the same
15:43:48 <joepie91> MK_FG, norbert79, want a laugh?
15:43:48 <joepie91> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=8882541&postcount=2
15:44:00 <norbert79> let me see... :)
15:44:10 <norbert79> MK_FG: Just one historical forum entry from me about these houses: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=49910&start=20 :)
15:44:13 <MK_FG> joepie91, Build bot to do "swipe client logs and build 'nick: (last msg, where)' db"!
15:44:17 <joepie91> be sure to also read the rest of the thread
15:44:26 <joepie91> this guy is hilariously misguided
15:44:29 <joepie91> MK_FG: nah
15:44:42 <joepie91> it already has .seen for that
15:44:46 <joepie91> .seen MK_FG
15:44:47 <botpie91> joepie91: I last saw mk_fg at 2013-10-22 15:44:13 UTC on #crytocc
15:44:57 <MK_FG> That's for just one chan though
15:45:05 <joepie91> .seen Macbeth
15:45:05 <botpie91> joepie91: I last saw macbeth at 2013-10-22 07:08:42 UTC on #anonnews
15:45:08 <joepie91> :)
15:45:17 <MK_FG> I wanted to add something like that to my znc, but never got around to
15:45:57 <MK_FG> Heh, TTD \o/
15:46:21 <MK_FG> "TTD - Soviet Russia edition" :P
15:46:48 <norbert79> OpenTTD
15:46:49 <MK_FG> Trains vanish suddenly, never go on time, railways get dismantled and stolen... ;)
15:46:53 <norbert79> Not TTD only :)
15:46:55 <norbert79> hahaha
15:46:58 <norbert79> nice
15:47:00 <joepie91> hahahaha
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15:47:21 <norbert79> Btw: twhiting9275 - Let me give you the medal of idiocracy for 2013 for you... Congrats
15:47:58 <joepie91> isn't it amazing? :P
15:48:01 <MK_FG> He's probably just a troll
15:48:09 <norbert79> "compiled binaries, which DO use encryption (ioncube ,etc)" - Wut??? :D
15:48:19 <joepie91> MK_FG: sadly, he probably isn't
15:48:21 <joepie91> it's WHT...
15:48:27 <MK_FG> It's apparently a lot of lulz to see OSS advocates rage at statements like that
15:48:35 <joepie91> on WHT, the idiot:troll ratio is tipping the scale far towards the former
15:48:44 <MK_FG> And there's a lot of fun to be had comparing GPL to communism and such ;)
15:48:46 <norbert79> "YOU build the system, give EVERYONE access to it, store access info for thousands of servers on it, thousands of credit cards on it, , tell people EXACTLY how to access the servers, credit cards, etc, and see how long you stay in business. You won't." - Dude, what you call as something stupid are called STANDARDS!!
15:48:54 <MK_FG> Heh
15:48:54 <joepie91> MK_FG: you must be socialist then
15:48:55 <norbert79> Jesus Christ
15:49:29 <MK_FG> I don't think I know what people call socialist these days
15:49:30 <norbert79> Never mind, this just blew my mind
15:49:38 <norbert79> MK_FG: Tell ME about it :))
15:49:51 <norbert79> MK_FG: It got weird for the past 20 years
15:50:15 <norbert79> "There's a difference between Linux, and the software it uses, and placing every bit of server and credit card information behind an open source system that is going to do nothing but lead to issues." - LOL?
15:50:17 <DrWhat> Idezender v8 :D
15:50:21 <MK_FG> Yeah, I guess it's probably same with all things political
15:50:32 <norbert79> "programmer, server admin, support tech for hire. Full time, part time, one off jobs, all welcome. PM for references" - JESUS
15:50:39 <DrWhat> and cky2k vb source:D
15:50:43 <MK_FG> Capitalism can also mean two totally opposite things
15:50:50 <MK_FG> ...apparently
15:53:11 <norbert79> joepie91: What is amazing though, that almost none of the commenters had the right idea how and why open source works, although their reactions were still way better, than twhiting9275s comments.
15:53:36 <norbert79> joepie91: Lack of knowledge amazes me
15:53:59 <norbert79> joepie91: Well, I mean if it comes with idealism and pre-judical attitude
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15:54:53 <norbert79> "I wouldnt recommend open source billing to be good, Many people could change it, re upload it on another site, and it have many security problems, ie sending details to unknown partys. thats my 2pence" - ok, this is amazing too... What? :))
15:54:57 <norbert79> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=941943
15:55:46 <MK_FG> Well, there's a hint of a real issue of oss name rights and reproducible/verifyable builds ;)
15:56:26 <MK_FG> (e.g. googling for vlc can easily give malwared vlc in the top link)
15:57:21 <norbert79> ah, in that perspective you are right
15:57:43 <norbert79> like when one of my former managers wondered why he got malware when downloading "mozzila" firefox
15:58:25 <iceTwy> botpie91: tell joepie91 hai
15:58:26 <botpie91> iceTwy: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
15:58:44 <MK_FG> Hahah
15:58:58 <iceTwy> abusing botpie91 like anyone should
15:59:00 <iceTwy> :D
15:59:02 <MK_FG> "mozzila - cheap chinese mozilla knockoff" :P
15:59:14 <norbert79> nah, was a site full with adverts
15:59:21 <norbert79> and a malwared Firefox
15:59:39 <norbert79> it didn't even rang a bell at him, that one of the ads was about some erotic content
15:59:52 <norbert79> he made a remark, but he said: "They must be desperate getting downloads"
16:00:21 <norbert79> I disagreed
16:01:35 <MK_FG> "mozzila - free as in porn on the internet!"
16:02:27 <iceTwy> what are we talking about norbert79?
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16:02:45 <MK_FG> loggy, pointer?
16:02:45 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-10-22#T16-02-45
16:02:53 <MK_FG> There's an app for that
16:03:16 <iceTwy> look,
16:03:18 <iceTwy> MK_FG.
16:03:23 <iceTwy> I'm French and I'm a lazy fag
16:03:30 <iceTwy> did you really think I was going to click on a link?
16:03:32 <iceTwy> DID YOU?!?
16:04:21 <MK_FG> I think on the internet, you're "lazy" exactly because you click on links all day instead of whatever
16:09:33 <joepie91> awesome longreads: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Posterous/Story
16:09:34 <botpie91> joepie91: 15:58Z <iceTwy> tell joepie91 hai
16:09:37 <joepie91> hai
16:10:03 <joepie91> <norbert79>joepie91: What is amazing though, that almost none of the commenters had the right idea how and why open source works, although their reactions were still way better, than twhiting9275s comments.
16:10:10 <joepie91> remember my remark about idiot:troll ratio on WHT? :D
16:13:10 <joepie91> iceTwy: your frontpage is broken
16:13:31 <joepie91> http://owely.com/6D6aSO
16:13:33 <iceTwy> aw
16:13:33 <joepie91> and can't scroll
16:13:36 <iceTwy> aw
16:13:55 <iceTwy> joepie91: I can't get the spacing right for all screen sizes
16:13:58 <iceTwy> resolutions rather
16:14:01 <iceTwy> it's annoying
16:15:09 <joepie91> iceTwy: it's not hard
16:15:56 <iceTwy> joepie91: I was thinking of using percentages instead of a fixed value in pixels
16:17:50 <joepie91> iceTwy: http://jsfiddle.net/4BW9L/1/
16:18:45 <joepie91> iceTwy: http://jsfiddle.net/4BW9L/3/
16:25:55 <iceTwy> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/10/google-earth-narcs-on-an-oregonian-marijuana-grower/
16:25:58 <iceTwy> lol.
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16:28:59 <anonimo123> ciao a tutti
16:29:16 <anonimo123> scusate sono nuovo
16:29:37 <anonimo123> di cosa si parla qui?
16:30:01 <anonimo123> ce nessuno?
16:34:24 <joepie91> anonimo123: hi, this is #crytocc, a publicly logged English-speaking channel primarily about development
16:34:27 <joepie91> please make sure you read the channel rules
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16:40:56 <pzuraq> Hey people
16:41:18 <pzuraq> Go vs Node for a site that needs to be up and running in 3 months
16:41:25 <pzuraq> what do you think?
16:47:36 <joepie91> pzuraq: I personally would have no idea, but I'd like to point out that Go originates from Google, and Google doesn't have a terribly great track record of keeping stuff afloat :)
16:47:40 <joepie91> re: project shutdowns and such
16:47:50 <joepie91> so that's probably something to take into account
16:48:02 <pzuraq> true, and this is a big worry for me
16:48:19 <pzuraq> not to mention Go doesn't have a huge community yet
16:48:24 <joepie91> exactly
16:48:37 <joepie91> from what I've seen, it's a pretty nice language... but I wouldn't trust my projects with it -yet-
16:48:40 <joepie91> personally
16:49:14 <pzuraq> but I do feel that it is fast on its way to becoming a legitimate language, it's being used it plenty of projects as it stands
16:49:35 <pzuraq> I feel if Google dropped it now, it would possibly die
16:49:42 <joepie91> yes, that's my fear also
16:49:45 <pzuraq> but in another year, probably not
16:49:53 <joepie91> that said, I'm pretty sure that Go is a lot less resource hungry than node js
16:49:56 <joepie91> so yeah
16:49:57 <joepie91> it depends
16:50:20 <joepie91> that said
16:50:29 <joepie91> we has - or well, should has - a node.js dev around here
16:50:30 * joepie91 looks in userlist
16:50:38 <pzuraq> benchmarks I've seen put go around twice as fast as node
16:50:49 <joepie91> don't just look at fast
16:50:50 <joepie91> :)
16:51:11 <pzuraq> http://jaxbot.me/articles/benchmarks_nodejs_vs_go_vs_php_3_14_2013
16:53:19 <joepie91> lol
16:53:24 <joepie91> pzuraq: read the comments
16:53:32 <joepie91> he doesn\'t seem to have a very sound testing methodology
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16:54:25 <joepie91> also breaks a bunch of basic rules on what not to do when writing benchmarking code
16:54:55 <pzuraq> unfortunately it's pretty much the only benchmark I could find that compares the two :/
16:55:07 <joepie91> pzuraq: do your own
16:55:07 <joepie91> :)
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16:57:40 <iceTwy> bored
16:57:42 <iceTwy> watdo
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17:09:09 <joepie91> iceTwy: fix site
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17:17:22 <iceTwy> joepie91: busy atm
17:17:27 <iceTwy> joepie91: site is not exactly a priority ;)
17:17:33 <iceTwy> but yeah will do ASAP, like in 20 mins or so
17:22:36 <joepie91> <iceTwy>bored
17:22:37 <joepie91> <iceTwy>joepie91: busy atm
17:22:38 <joepie91> WHICH IS IT
17:22:38 <joepie91> lol
17:26:30 <iceTwy> LOL
17:45:05 <DrWhat> A PHP is a very secretive creature. It scurries around on the server side of the website and never makes an appearance to the client (Your browser)
17:45:16 <DrWhat> I lol'd when i saw that quote
17:45:30 <iceTwy> PHP is broken :/
17:45:46 <DrWhat> Your broken
17:45:50 <iceTwy> no
17:46:03 <iceTwy> I'm not saying this because I don't like PHP (I have no preference at all)
17:46:07 <iceTwy> just pointing out a true fact
17:49:00 <joepie91> >true fact
17:49:08 <joepie91> iceTwy: you've watched too much Fox News
17:49:08 <joepie91> :p
17:49:12 <DrWhat> >>> Its works
17:49:58 <joepie91> php *is* broken, design-wise
17:50:44 <iceTwy> haha Fox News
17:50:51 <iceTwy> yeah, you got the point ;)
18:03:21 <iceTwy> I think that Wikipedia are asking for their bandwidth to be used and abused
18:03:34 <iceTwy> Featuring La Joconde as the picture of the day, when the said picture is 90Mb
18:07:45 <pzuraq> joepie91: Go's concurrency code looks rather nice..
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18:12:13 <DrWhat> I just remember what i was ment to be doing today
18:12:29 <iceTwy> and that was, DrWhat?
18:12:38 <DrWhat> getlastid()
18:12:43 <DrWhat> for the PDO class
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18:18:35 <joepie91> TIL: TOR now uses a build process that was (partially) designed by Bitcoin devs to ensure integrity https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/deterministic-builds
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18:20:00 <paladini> hi guys
18:20:33 <iceTwy> hey there paladini
18:20:41 <iceTwy> yup joepie91, deterministic builds
18:20:44 <iceTwy> that's excellent news
18:20:45 <iceTwy> and it works!
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18:23:10 <paladini> Joepie, are you online?
18:23:43 <DrWhat> Okay
18:23:50 <joepie91> paladini: yes, but working on stuff
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18:32:06 <paladini> Joooeee! Do you remember me?
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18:36:05 <DrWhat> Fatal error: Call to undefined method PDOStatement::commit() in C:\xampp\htdocs\crypt\class\database.class.php on line 35
18:36:07 <DrWhat> :/4
18:36:49 <joepie91> paladini: ofc
18:36:53 <joepie91> :P
18:36:57 <joepie91> welcome back
18:38:58 <DrWhat> Ohhhh
18:39:20 <DrWhat> Commit and lastinsertid have to go on the pdo object varable
18:39:27 <DrWhat> not the statement variable
18:39:39 <DrWhat> that explains it
18:39:39 <DrWhat> :)
18:39:52 <DrWhat> Only problem now
18:39:53 <paladini> Hahahaha, really nice you remember me :)
18:39:58 <DrWhat> it reterns 0
18:40:20 <paladini> Some times I come here to say Hello
18:40:33 <paladini> now I'm learning Python and Ruby on Rails :P
18:42:12 <vld> .bitcoin
18:42:13 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $193.08, 1 BTC = €146.00
18:42:19 <vld> $200 almost there
18:42:32 <DrWhat> its been up and down all day
18:42:40 <DrWhat> joepie91 what am i doing wrong
18:42:50 <vld> R0y4lty: yes?
18:42:56 <DrWhat> Dont say becuas i have it twice becuase im trying to figure out why is not working
18:42:57 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1z14sv
18:43:05 <DrWhat> both return 0
18:43:50 <paladini> Guys, are you doing something involving bitcoin?
18:43:57 <DrWhat> nope
18:44:17 <vld> what do you mean?
18:44:19 <DrWhat> our last aim was to archive isohunt before it shutdown
18:44:30 <DrWhat> but isohunt kinda, stoped us
18:44:55 <DrWhat> vld you can help me :D
18:45:00 <vld> I can't
18:45:05 <DrWhat> I always open toyour help
18:45:07 <DrWhat> ohh:/
18:45:18 <vld> you don't listen
18:45:27 <DrWhat> i do...
18:45:33 <vld> okay
18:45:35 <vld> what's the problem
18:45:38 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/1z14sv
18:45:48 <vld> why are you screenshoting code
18:45:50 <DrWhat> Both return 0
18:45:58 <paladini> Do you need help guys?
18:46:42 <DrWhat> pastebin takes too long :3
18:47:04 <vld> what returns 0?
18:47:13 <joepie91> paladini: DrWhat is a little of a messy coder, and vld is a little sarcastic
18:47:17 <joepie91> the end result is what you see now :)
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18:47:28 <DrWhat> lastInsertId()
18:47:57 <vld> what is this $statement
18:48:14 <DrWhat> the prepared statement
18:48:23 <DrWhat> risrs
18:48:27 <vld> you're not supposed to run it on that
18:48:34 <DrWhat> why not?
18:48:40 <vld> cause it doesn't work
18:48:41 <vld> lol
18:48:44 <DrWhat> it does too
18:48:51 <vld> then what's the problem
18:49:04 <DrWhat> Wait
18:49:08 <DrWhat> What are you refering to?
18:49:16 <vld> 43
18:49:27 <paladini> joepie91: hahahahhaha
18:49:35 <DrWhat> $result = $this->statement->rowCount();
18:49:37 <paladini> Fuck, what're you doing?
18:49:50 <DrWhat> Whats wrong with that?
18:49:59 <vld> it should be $this->pdo
18:50:13 <vld> again, you're giving incomplete code (IN A SCREENSHOT)
18:50:13 * DrWhat shakes head
18:50:19 <vld> and little details about the problem
18:51:08 <DrWhat> https://gist.github.com/DrWhatNoName/7106035
18:52:10 <paladini> Shit, I don't understand what's happening here hahahahhaha
18:52:19 <vld> which line of that is returning 0
18:53:02 <DrWhat> 37, and the function i made which i plan on using on line 47 ....7
18:53:04 <DrWhat> 37, and the function i made which i plan on using on line 47 ....
18:54:13 <paladini> 37, and the function i made which i plan on using on line 48 ....8
18:54:57 <paladini> Well, I'm at course, going now guys
18:54:58 <DrWhat> What he said
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18:59:00 <vld> DrWhat: you're doing a commit
18:59:08 <vld> do your lastInsertId() before the commit
18:59:19 <vld> why are you even doing a commit()?
18:59:33 <DrWhat> the book said so?
18:59:47 <DrWhat> http://www.php.net/manual/en/pdo.lastinsertid.php
19:00:14 <vld> read the latest comment
19:00:33 <vld> you don't really need transactions
19:00:35 <DrWhat> ahhh
19:00:59 <vld> http://php.net/manual/en/pdo.begintransaction.php
19:01:03 <vld> do you need this?
19:03:07 <DrWhat> hmmm
19:03:31 <vld> I haven't seen the need for such features in any of my projects
19:03:35 <vld> joepie91: care to comment?
19:03:40 <DrWhat> yeah I havnt used it
19:03:48 <DrWhat> since today
19:04:04 <DrWhat> i think commit() closes the connection?
19:04:09 <DrWhat> doe sit not?
19:04:12 <vld> it commits the changes
19:04:28 <vld> however you could say that in this case it "closes" the "connection"
19:04:36 <vld> ie session
19:04:52 <DrWhat> yeah
19:04:55 <vld> so, from what I understand, lastinsertid() returns 0 because no inserts took place
19:04:59 <vld> in the session
19:05:09 <vld> so get rid of those transaction stuff
19:05:12 <DrWhat> i heard that Pdo will keep the connection open for as long as PHP is executed
19:05:31 <DrWhat> you can use commit() to close the connection once what you want to do is done
19:05:46 <vld> well that sounds nice and stuff
19:05:50 <vld> but it will complicate your code
19:05:51 <vld> a lot
19:06:47 <vld> usually I like to have a function inside the DB class for each query
19:07:16 <vld> some people don't like that idea, but it works for me
19:16:58 <DrWhat> I like the class ihave :
19:16:59 <DrWhat> I like the class ihave :S
19:17:03 <DrWhat> afucking keyboards
19:17:17 <joepie91> DrWhat: don't bother with transactional queries unless you have a reason for using them
19:17:50 <vld> that's exactly what I said
19:18:01 <vld> couldn't you just say "I agree with vld"
19:18:13 <vld> botpie91, tell joepie91 to pie!
19:18:14 <joepie91> I never agree with vld
19:18:14 <botpie91> vld: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
19:18:14 <botpie91> joepie91: 19:18Z <vld> tell joepie91 to pie!
19:18:16 <joepie91> you know that
19:18:29 <DrWhat> lol
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19:40:57 <MK_FG> I don't quite get how hidden volume in TrueCrypt'ed dev can be mistaken for just encrypted one
19:42:05 <DrWhat> wut?
19:43:03 <DrWhat> lol
19:43:05 <DrWhat> Hey
19:43:23 <DrWhat> Whos heard a stupid javascript thing called kendo UI
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19:43:46 <DrWhat> you basicly write the code in php and it converts it to Javascript
19:44:04 <DrWhat> Adding execution and proccessing time to your webapp
19:44:12 <DrWhat> Stupid shit...
19:44:19 <DrWhat> joepie91 Comment?
19:44:33 <DrWhat> http://www.kendoui.com/
19:45:39 <DrWhat> its a nice idea
19:46:12 <DrWhat> But i dont like the part where the javascript is dynamicly built in php...
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19:47:31 <joepie91> DrWhat: proprietary, nty
19:47:32 <botpie91> joepie91: 19:35Z <DrWhat> tell joepie91 to fabricate cryptbin Please! :D
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20:39:46 <joepie91> really, wtf is with all these javascript graphing libraries being CC-NC
20:41:53 <MK_FG> Authors hate money?
20:43:28 <MK_FG> Or rather love money, so you can ping them and ask special license for modest buck
20:44:01 <iceTwy> SUCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS
20:46:11 <iceTwy> MK_FG:
20:46:15 <iceTwy> what do you eat in Russia
20:46:21 <iceTwy> typically that is
20:46:27 <MK_FG> Human flesh!
20:46:53 <iceTwy> post-apocalyptic soviet russia
20:46:53 <MK_FG> As it happens, I'm chewing piece of bread with cheese
20:46:55 <iceTwy> ftw
20:47:01 <iceTwy> stop being French would you
20:47:03 <iceTwy> :D
20:47:28 <MK_FG> Will probably need to boil some rice in steam thing for tomorrow
20:48:01 <iceTwy> you're reminding me that I should go to the jap restaurant during my fall break
20:48:03 <MK_FG> Also like buckwheat, spaghetti, porrige and generally simple-to-make easy-to-eat food
20:48:16 <MK_FG> Nah, it's not that fancy
20:49:25 <MK_FG> Don't usually eat meat at home since I've no idea how to cook it :/
20:49:32 <iceTwy> cooking meat?
20:49:37 <iceTwy> it's really simple, lol
20:49:46 <iceTwy> what kinda meat?
20:49:47 <MK_FG> (or how to pick the right pieces, so it won't be garbage)
20:50:04 <MK_FG> No idea!
20:50:13 <iceTwy> Well you could look up on Internet the best bits of each animal
20:50:34 <iceTwy> What you want to see on a piece of meat is as much red as possible
20:50:38 <MK_FG> Nah, food is food
20:50:41 <iceTwy> and practically no white
20:50:54 <iceTwy> white's just fat and gets thrown away in the process of preparing the meat
20:50:55 <iceTwy> prior to cooking it
20:51:25 <MK_FG> Sounds like way too much work
20:51:26 <iceTwy> MK_FG: 'food is food'. food is what you live off so please respect food
20:51:48 <iceTwy> way too much work? then you may just as well buy garbage processed food and let your body face the consequences
20:52:12 <iceTwy> I'm harsh there, but food is seriously a core element of your life
20:52:18 <MK_FG> Processed garbage is generally way more expensive than simple stuff
20:52:22 <iceTwy> Yeah
20:52:27 <iceTwy> So get to cook simple stuff
20:52:29 <vld> you are what you eat
20:52:30 <vld> lol
20:52:30 <iceTwy> It ain't hard, really
20:52:36 <MK_FG> That's what I do!
20:52:46 <iceTwy> but meat is simple stuff! D:
20:53:04 <MK_FG> Doesn't sound like it, at least not for me ;)
20:53:19 <MK_FG> Besides, I'm not using these muscles anyway
20:55:55 <iceTwy> pmlarplzlpmrzlmp:r
20:55:57 <iceTwy> still!
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20:58:42 <joepie91> iceTwy
20:58:51 <joepie91> you forgot xmpp
20:58:52 <slap[incognito]> j
20:58:57 <slap[incognito]> hi joe
20:59:34 <iceTwy> oh yes joepie91
20:59:41 <iceTwy> I really need to get i3 to launch my stuff at launch
21:01:30 <slap[incognito]> hi iceTwy
21:01:37 <iceTwy> hey there slap[incognito]
21:02:52 <slap[incognito]> wanna add me on xmpp
21:02:52 <slap[incognito]> ?
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21:03:41 <iceTwy> yeah sure
21:03:57 <minion> joepie91, i was wondering :is there a seen command
21:04:56 <minion> pm me it iceTwy
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21:24:03 <joepie91> minion: yes
21:24:05 <joepie91> .seen
21:24:06 <botpie91> joepie91: Need a nickname to search for...
21:28:20 <R0y4lty> joepie91
21:28:24 <R0y4lty> where did chanserv escape to?
21:28:49 * joepie91 blinks
21:28:54 <joepie91> wtf?
21:29:09 <joepie91> uh..
21:29:12 <joepie91> one sec...
21:29:23 <joepie91> oh
21:29:25 <joepie91> hub died
21:29:26 <joepie91> wtf
21:29:32 <joepie91> how is this network not a giant split mess
21:29:39 <R0y4lty> lol
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21:29:43 <R0y4lty> it died hours ago
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21:29:45 <joepie91> we only lost 2 users ._.
21:29:51 <joepie91> I.. whatt
21:29:53 <joepie91> what *
21:30:22 <R0y4lty> joepie91
21:30:22 <R0y4lty> * joepie92 is now known as joepie91
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21:32:30 <joepie91> k, no more complain now
21:32:30 <joepie91> :P
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22:13:34 <vld> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP_YJX6Tc1o
22:13:42 <vld> they don't make music like they used to
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22:44:09 <minion> joepie91 i need to talk
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23:04:28 <joepie91> ahhh
23:04:34 <joepie91> hub crash was due to a kernel panic
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23:55:05 <joepie91> public service announcement
23:55:15 <joepie91> current humble bundle has worms reloaded for Linux