Cryto! 18 September 2013

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14:08:08 <> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICALLY LOGGED CHANNEL. |, | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Now, with more dpk! | Cryto Research: | RIP Aaron Swartz
14:08:08 <> Users on #crytocc: loggy joepie91 Ari zxcvbnm landrone foolex Summerfag6532 norbert79 Ishaq tintin botpie91 Xeross d0wn_blog cayce staticsafe TheHackBox truetravesty mikaa @SpaghettiCode lysobit &MK_FG Asad dpk rirachi
14:27:41 <cayce> oh man
14:27:43 <cayce> best response
14:28:01 <cayce> "#confession 1672: I like this international student.I just don't know how to go about it!" "umm if internet explorer has the balls to ask to be your default browser you have the balls to ask em out"
14:28:24 <cayce> dying of laughter over here
14:38:25 <joepie91> lol
14:48:32 <MK_FG> That's awesome comparison indeed
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14:54:05 <cayce> I mean that page is mostly a huge waste of my time, but gems like that make it worth it
14:55:11 <cayce> ALRIGHT
14:55:22 <cayce> so now that cbc is okay I dunno what to do
14:56:06 <cayce> aes-gcm should still be top ranked, and probably ecdhe-ecdsa-aes128-gcm-sha256 since that's the gcm most things are specifically implementing
15:03:24 <MK_FG> Why gcm and not ccm?
15:11:33 <cayce> what's ccm
15:11:53 <cayce> tls has only gcm and cbc
15:12:35 <MK_FG> Hm, I thought I've seen ccm in there somewhere too...
15:12:47 <cayce> no o.o
15:13:01 <MK_FG> Oh,
15:13:03 <cayce> you saw
15:13:04 <cayce> yes
15:13:17 <cayce> proposed, not approved even
15:13:22 <cayce> but maybe soon?
15:14:39 <joepie91> MK_FG, seen my post?
15:15:18 <MK_FG> Hm, now I see the link here in the backlog, but I totally missed it at the time
15:15:47 * joepie91 also points lysobit at it:
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15:17:40 <cayce> seems better
15:17:52 <MK_FG> I think all posts should be about introduction of the ideas, never the end goal
15:18:14 <MK_FG> Because no matter how much you think of the end goal, it'll never work as you expect it to
15:18:23 <cayce> how zen
15:18:34 <MK_FG> And on a scale of whole humanity
15:19:01 <MK_FG> Well, it's just an issue I have with utopias (or whatever less slimy word) people imagine and argue for
15:19:54 <cayce> I always see it as a problem of ego, because if you tie yourself to one particular vision of the future and not a general direction, you're fucked
15:25:34 <MK_FG> Maybe I'm wrong though, and one should show end-goal and make others (assuming they agree) think of the rest on the way to it
15:26:10 <MK_FG> Honestly, I probably wouldn't have the balls to craft such thing, so thumbs-up for joepie91 ;)
15:26:25 <cayce> :P
15:32:11 <MK_FG> "An argument over the theories of 18th century philosopher Immanuel Kant ended in a man being shot in a grocery store in southern Russia." <-- see what I mean?
15:32:58 <MK_FG> You gotta have balls of steel to argue about philosophy
15:38:47 <cayce> damn, could have picked a better one to fight over
15:38:52 * cayce giggles
15:39:07 <cayce> Kant tell that joke in public
15:39:43 <cayce> SORRY WHAT
15:39:44 <cayce> NP: [Haiducii - Dragonstea Din Tei] [IndexTrance [Vol 01]] [320kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
15:40:58 <cayce> I love that I still have that song
15:41:03 <cayce> so much amazing
15:44:25 <cayce> mmm
15:44:26 <cayce> NP: [Live - Sparkle] [The Distance To Here] [1059kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
15:47:16 <MK_FG> Numa numa
15:49:20 <norbert79> Maria Heee, Maria Oooh!
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15:56:36 <joepie91>
16:00:07 <cayce> ugh why am I so hot e.e
16:00:27 <cayce> must keep dressing like shit so women stay away :D
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17:27:32 <joepie91> .tw
17:27:33 <botpie91> @Anon_Central @TehDarkLord Somebody lawyered up and went after the domain directly through swedish registry. ED will be back soon..ish (@FuxNet)
17:27:57 <joepie91> cayce: implying you'd prefer to be attracting men? :P
17:55:56 <zxcvbnm> sounds like thats what cayce is implying, excellent detective work joepie91
17:55:59 <zxcvbnm> and herro
17:56:54 <joepie91> ohai!
18:02:32 <MK_FG> Wat, are men attracted to "dressing like shit", really? ;)
18:02:46 <zxcvbnm> Probably the opposite, good point MK_FG
18:02:51 <zxcvbnm> All sorts of points flyin around
18:12:35 <lysobit> joepie91: maybe it would be more effective if you wrote it all out as one blog post rather than a series
18:12:46 <lysobit> also, openpgp.js is what cryptocat uses afaik
18:13:57 <joepie91> lysobit: that's quite likely to cause a "tl;dr" reflex
18:14:02 <joepie91> and I can't write everything in one go anyway
18:14:08 <joepie91> plus feedback during the process would be nice
18:14:22 <lysobit> joepie91: the "tl;dr" people are probably not your target audience anyway
18:14:35 <joepie91> lysobit: they are
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18:47:37 <Macbeth> Hello
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19:37:48 <Zoned> Well,
19:38:01 <Zoned> hope everyone is okay.
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19:59:48 <Zoned> icetwy
20:00:03 <Zoned> icetwy xmpp
20:00:11 <iceTwy> yeah
20:00:12 <iceTwy> sec
20:08:51 <mama> hi
20:10:09 <Zoned> someone should inform leb their let is down ;)
20:13:07 <schism> is joepie91 around
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21:01:11 <Zoned> crafy_d
21:01:24 <crafy_d> hey Zoned : )
21:01:31 <Zoned> whats up?
21:01:51 <crafy_d> all good thanks
21:01:54 <Zoned> nice
21:02:00 <crafy_d> how about you?
21:02:05 <crafy_d> : )
21:02:07 <Zoned> pretty good
21:02:10 <Zoned> just trolling let
21:02:31 <crafy_d> very good. : )
21:03:41 <Zoned> nice
21:10:10 <lysobit>
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21:11:43 <iceTwy> lysobit: coding that shit in Java is a flaw in itself
21:12:09 <lysobit> Java is very enterprise
21:12:37 <iceTwy> ah yeah, true
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21:32:00 <Zoned> +1 wrecking ball parody
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21:38:57 <Zoned> COMMON, who let the trolls on the news live?
21:38:58 <Zoned>
21:50:39 <zest> lol )))
21:51:01 <zest> so serious face )
21:51:05 <Zoned> :)
21:51:30 <zest> this is stack for printer I suppose )
21:53:55 <Zoned>
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22:10:14 <iceTwy> goin' to sleep
22:10:15 <iceTwy> good night!
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22:11:29 <zest> Zoned: Actually this Syrian guy another one mock "I have gun, I have gun". You take the gun, make a strike
22:12:39 <zest> *Took the gun - shoot
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22:32:44 <Zoned> loading fucknotgiven.jpg....
22:32:49 <Zoned> error: 404 fuck not given
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23:58:41 <Macbeth> Hi