Cryto! 6 June 2013

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02:38:12 <AnonForecast> crytocc-c, who?
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02:44:28 <x> o.o
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06:03:48 <iceTwy> hai
06:05:23 <pzuraq> hai
06:05:29 <pzuraq> what kind of music is this?
06:05:30 <pzuraq>
06:17:29 <MK_FG> I'd say it's close to something I'd call eurodance ;)
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07:45:24 <monod> morning
07:52:15 <pzuraq> morning monod
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09:28:12 <monod> Note: "ZOMG NONE!!!1" applies to moderators as well.
09:28:17 <monod> hahahha
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09:32:39 <anonO_o> hai
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11:26:32 <monod> time is money, time doesn't exist => money doesn't exist. Go tell my bank.
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12:04:02 <ShadowDemon> nom nom nom
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13:49:41 <zxcvbnm> o m0rning
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14:06:30 <mama> morning zxcvbnm :)
14:08:43 <mama> ebola: are you somewhere?
14:08:52 <mama> pm please :D
14:36:12 <joepie91>
14:36:43 <waflel> Old news.
14:36:48 <waflel> :-]
14:37:14 <joepie91> there's a typo in the typoed version of your nickname, waflel
14:37:39 <MK_FG> waffel?
14:37:43 <waflel> :P
14:37:47 <joepie91> :P
14:38:01 <waflel> i like this version :3
14:38:06 <waflel> joepei
14:38:08 <waflel> :D
14:38:36 <MK_FG> That'd be when he immigrates to Thai to avoid prosecution
14:38:45 <joepie91> hahaha
14:39:01 <MK_FG> (in a week or so)
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14:52:35 <waflel> wait MK_FG
14:52:53 <MK_FG> wait wat
14:52:54 <waflel> did u not know that joeπ is a chink?
14:53:10 <MK_FG> Say f-d word
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15:26:58 <monod> oh my god
15:27:07 <monod> we really need some kind of secure way of comunicating
15:27:27 <monod> I'm thinking of i2p for example
15:30:46 <waflel> jabotr
15:32:19 <joepie91> jabber + otr only works for person to person convos
15:32:29 <joepie91> i2p doesn't actually secure your communications other than between you and the server
15:32:32 <waflel> clearly you don't use jabber's groupchats
15:32:43 <joepie91> waflel: last time I checked, there was no OTR in groupchats
15:32:48 <waflel> orly?
15:32:55 <joepie91> quite rly, yes
15:33:04 * waflel disagrees
15:33:06 <joepie91> just opened up Pidgin
15:33:14 <joepie91> no OTR icon in the MUC I'm in
15:33:22 <waflel> hrm
15:33:36 <joepie91> also, groupchats are more or less deprecated
15:33:37 <waflel> joepie91, what group?
15:33:38 <joepie91> it's MUC now
15:33:38 <joepie91> :P
15:33:43 <waflel> idk what muc is
15:33:43 <joepie91>
15:33:47 <joepie91> MUC = multi user chat
15:33:55 <joepie91> it's the successor of the groupchat 1.0 protocol
15:34:02 <joepie91> nearly everything uses MUC now
15:34:07 <waflel> ...
15:34:10 <waflel> it's the same thing
15:34:13 <joepie91> no, it's not
15:34:19 <joepie91> they're different protocols
15:34:28 <joepie91> groupchat 1.0 is also much much simpler and more basic
15:34:39 <joepie91> MUC has proper affiliations etc
15:35:17 <waflel> tbh otr is useless
15:35:28 <waflel> since i can't ensure that u fegets rnt logging
15:36:11 <joepie91> waflel: it's not useless
15:36:18 <joepie91> you're just expecting something it wasn't designed for
15:36:18 <joepie91> :P
15:36:23 <joepie91> OTR is client to client encryption
15:36:25 <waflel> wat.
15:36:27 <waflel> no shit
15:36:32 <joepie91> client-to-client encryption means you're trusting the client
15:36:34 <joepie91> the other client
15:36:38 <waflel> no shit
15:36:40 <joepie91> that's part of the model
15:36:46 <waflel> but i don't trust any of u
15:36:48 <joepie91> so obviously you can't ensure the other side isn't logging
15:36:49 <waflel> that's the issue
15:36:50 <waflel> :)
15:36:50 <joepie91> then don't use OTR
15:36:50 <joepie91> lol
15:36:59 <waflel> exactly
15:37:29 <waflel> joepie91, stop being a prick
15:37:36 <waflel> and all high and mighty in your muc
15:37:41 <waflel> and stop fucking sighing
15:37:45 <MK_FG> Yeah, go fix otr while at it, too
15:37:52 <waflel> lol MK_FG
15:38:49 <MK_FG> There's bitmessage these days
15:39:00 <MK_FG> (I've only seen the hype of it tho)
15:39:24 <MK_FG> But it has bit- at the beginning, so I know it's legit
15:41:17 <joepie91> lol
15:41:35 <joepie91> can anyone recommend some good "physics for dummies" books, so to say?
15:42:01 <MK_FG> You're playing Kerbal Space Program, too? ;)
15:42:07 <joepie91> as in "interesting books that explain physics from the start, but don't assume you're stupid"
15:42:10 <joepie91> nah, it's actually for someone else
15:42:11 <joepie91> :)
15:42:17 <joepie91> also cc twitchyliquid64
15:42:34 <joepie91> I have a physical physics (ba dum tish!) book laying around
15:42:40 <joepie91> but it doesn't cover much of the basics
15:45:11 <monod> guys
15:45:21 <monod> it depends on what kind of basics do you want
15:45:28 <monod> I'll explain it better:
15:45:47 <monod> academic (universities') physics books start from scratch
15:45:54 <HiveResearch> teh basics: energy makes shit happen but torque fucks it all up
15:45:58 <monod> the only thing, is the language adoperated
15:46:59 <monod> if they have mature preparation in maths and they already know a little bit of physics (that might fit the "don't assume they're stupid" definition)
15:47:29 <monod> I think they may start with a common "Physics 1" book, or "First Course in Physics"
15:47:34 <monod> some title like this
15:47:55 <monod> they teach you what cinematic is
15:48:02 <monod> then go to the dynamic
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15:48:20 <monod> I gotta go
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16:17:00 <zxcvbnm> what
16:17:04 <zxcvbnm> was
16:17:05 <zxcvbnm> that
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21:29:50 <> Topic for #crytocc is: Cryto Coding Collective | THIS IS A PUBLICLY LOGGED CHANNEL. |, | Rules: no Anonymous, no cracking, no drama | Online Flash IDE: | Cryto Research: | RIP Aaron Swartz
21:29:50 <> Users on #crytocc: loggy flate pzuraq foolex kvasir mama scraepy speakeasy iceTwy zxcvbnm crytocc-c joepie91 crates &ebola @SpaghettiCode Ishaq AnonForecast ElectRo` AppleJack wh1t3r4bb1t raymii IR601 &MK_FG BigAnon waflel YW HiveResearch sznortie truetravesty Xeross vld twitchyliquid64
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21:30:07 <AnonForecast> everytime i need a quarter, i cant find one
21:30:08 <joepie91> asdfasdf
21:30:11 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
21:30:11 <loggy>
21:30:15 <AnonForecast> but i see them all the time when i dont need one
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21:30:53 <waflel> !hi
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21:30:55 <AnonForecast> Sometimes the Internet is like having ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife. amen
21:30:56 <waflel> aw
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21:31:01 <AnonForecast> dafuq
21:31:01 <waflel> SPEAK
21:31:02 <waflel> !help
21:31:08 <waflel> dafuk is going on
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21:31:17 <AnonForecast> ARMAGEDDON!!!!
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21:31:23 <AnonForecast> its the zerg!
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21:32:05 <HiveResearch> lulz
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21:32:13 <AnonForecast> HiveResearch, HALP!!!!
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21:32:52 <AnonForecast> someone cast a matrix magic spell and make it stop!!
21:32:53 <joepie91> dum dum dum
21:32:55 <iceTwy> huh
21:32:58 <joepie91> iceTwy: botflood
21:33:03 <MK_FG> Was it teh chinese?
21:33:04 <joepie91> happens
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21:33:09 <iceTwy> I'd guessed that out by now joepie91 ;)
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21:33:12 <AnonForecast> always blame china
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21:33:12 <dfwioswluw> always blame china
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21:33:16 <vybfmqcrwg> always blame china
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21:33:22 <pgryesrwzs> where's my +F, joepie91
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21:33:27 <comvazfixy> ACTION does the dougie:MK_FG!MK_FG@MKFG-91968.users.cryto PRIVMSG #crytocc :Oh noes, second wave!
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21:33:38 <AnonForecast> CYBER-PEARL HARBOR!
21:33:38 <iceTwy> creepy fucks
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21:33:48 <joepie91> as I said,
21:33:50 * joepie91 stare of death towards waflel
21:33:52 <waflel> o.O
21:33:53 <waflel> me?
21:33:56 <AnonForecast> you!
21:33:56 <joepie91> yes, you
21:33:58 <waflel> don't you point at me fgt
21:34:00 <AnonForecast> y u no ?!?
21:34:01 * waflel points at joepie91
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21:34:03 <waflel> IT WAS HIM!
21:34:03 <joepie91> dude, really, don't even try
21:34:07 <joepie91> I _know_ they're your bots
21:34:10 <waflel> ude
21:34:10 <joepie91> lol
21:34:13 <AnonForecast> uh oh
21:34:15 <waflel> i dont even know what ur talking about
21:34:16 <waflel> like srsly
21:34:20 <iceTwy> lawl
21:34:20 <waflel> i don't even into coding
21:34:22 <joepie91> you've done this "huh, who me?" spiel too often to have me still believe you
21:34:25 <AnonForecast> he underscored before AND after "know"
21:34:25 <joepie91> :P
21:34:28 <waflel> me?
21:34:29 <waflel> srsly
21:34:34 <waflel> i think waflel could write a botnet?
21:34:34 <AnonForecast> that means srs bsn
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21:34:39 <waflel> im waflel dude
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21:34:41 <waflel> im peace
21:34:45 <waflel> im like a hazelnut
21:34:45 <pzuraq> so
21:34:50 <kvasir> lol NOT ME GUYS, I DON'T EVEN CODE MAN WHAT THE FUCK *botspams*
21:34:55 <AnonForecast> is waflel latin for troll?
21:34:55 <waflel> hahahahahahaha
21:34:56 <pzuraq> I'm slightly above average at algorithms
21:34:59 <waflel> AnonForecast, it's a typo
21:34:59 <HiveResearch> yes you're a snowflake
21:35:02 <pzuraq> this has damaged my self esteem
21:35:02 <joepie91> next time you try to pretend not to be someone, fix your realname and ident
21:35:03 <joepie91> :)
21:35:06 <AnonForecast> typo of what?
21:35:13 <AnonForecast> OOO ZING!
21:35:14 <waflel> joepie91, huh? erry1 here knows who i am
21:35:15 <waflel> -.-
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21:35:16 <pzuraq> even though I really didn't spend nearly as much time working on the class as I could have
21:35:17 <AnonForecast> joepie got you
21:35:20 <joepie91> then why claim you don't code? :P
21:35:23 <waflel> if i wanted ppl to not know who iw as i/d /setall nox
21:35:26 <joepie91> because everyone also knows that nox codes
21:35:27 <waflel> joepie91, i can't
21:35:29 <waflel> pft
21:35:30 <joepie91> and that nox likes botfloods
21:35:31 <waflel> nobody knows that
21:35:37 <pzuraq> does this make me a bad computer scientist, or worse, a bad software engineer?
21:35:39 <AnonForecast> i knew that
21:35:39 <waflel> that's just a bunch of lies
21:35:40 <AnonForecast> tots.
21:35:45 <waflel> AnonForecast, liez!
21:35:49 <AnonForecast> NO Z
21:35:59 <AnonForecast> Real eyes realize Real Lies!!!
21:36:02 * kvasir giggles
21:36:17 <HiveResearch> i liek bot floods and i canna lie Capt!
21:36:17 <AnonForecast> that should bemy first tattoo
21:36:22 <AnonForecast> on my tramp stamp
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21:36:38 <HiveResearch> ^ him
21:36:40 <kvasir> do it in hebrew or japanese to be deep with girls in their teens
21:36:57 <AnonForecast> wait, what is waflel a typo of? "wutlol"?
21:37:06 <HiveResearch> nah do it in Chacaron
21:37:14 <waflel> joepie91, i think you're the one trying to flame me
21:37:15 <AnonForecast> or "watlel"
21:37:17 <waflel> *frame even
21:37:23 <waflel> no AnonForecast
21:37:26 <waflel> its a fucking typo of waffle
21:37:28 <waflel> you dipshit
21:37:29 <AnonForecast> You just got Sabu'd waflel
21:37:33 <joepie91> take the derpiness elsewhere :)
21:37:34 <AnonForecast> oh, i see.
21:37:37 <waflel> joepie91, :)
21:37:41 <waflel> n e thing u say bb
21:37:43 * waflel buttfucks joepie91
21:37:45 <AnonForecast> bring it to #AnonNews
21:40:38 * kvasir removes domains from rbl
21:43:04 <waflel> joepie91, so
21:43:16 <waflel> what's your latest programming project?
21:43:24 <joepie91> top sekrit
21:43:36 <waflel> omgomgomgomg
21:43:37 <waflel> tell me
21:43:53 * HiveResearch pours syrpu on waflel
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21:44:42 <joepie91> waflel, note: you're on clone watch
21:44:42 <waflel> o.O
21:44:44 <waflel> rued.
21:44:51 <waflel> joepie91, I am not sure what that means.
21:44:54 <waflel> but i'm all done for the day
21:45:00 <joepie91> good :)
21:45:12 <waflel> joepie91, unless you can find a network that would be fun to do this to
21:45:25 <HiveResearch> that was bad and you should feel bad
21:45:25 <waflel> in which case I am so down.
21:45:45 <waflel> joepie91, I noticed you authed and opered up :3
21:45:57 <joepie91> observation correct
21:46:02 <joepie91> network maintenance :)
21:46:06 <waflel> yeaaahhh
21:46:14 <waflel> imma go ahead and let you maintain in peace :)
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21:54:33 <kvasir> SO HOT
21:54:48 <kvasir> spdy/3 ssl connections only :3:3:3
21:59:08 <waflel> rofl
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22:36:22 <crytocc-c> lol
22:36:43 <crytocc-c> got some nice equiptment free
22:36:44 <crytocc-c> :D
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22:43:43 <crytocc-c2> time to build and configure raid systems
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22:59:21 * zxcvbnm zxcvbnmO_o
22:59:36 <zxcvbnm> there was a whole lot of tomfoolery in the last few hours.
22:59:45 <zxcvbnm> fortunately I was too busy playing games to notice.
23:01:09 <crytocc-c2> I needa upgrade my box here when I get more ram.
23:01:18 <crytocc-c2> its going to be dedicated to vms for personal use.
23:04:13 <kvasir> om nom nom
23:04:38 <kvasir> anybody have recommendations on what can be done to make cpanel setups suck less?
23:05:03 <kvasir> I'm tasked with setting up the sites… we
23:05:09 <kvasir> we'll see how enraged I get
23:05:33 <crytocc-c2> lol.
23:05:36 <crytocc-c2> don't use cpanel.
23:05:39 <crytocc-c2> thats the easist way
23:05:41 <kvasir> not an option
23:06:01 <kvasir> nontechnical user needs to be able to click buttons and spin up new sites
23:06:10 <kvasir> ==> cpanel
23:06:52 <kvasir> she's paying me for administrative shit, not hosting services
23:07:04 <kvasir> :P
23:11:47 <scraepy> ===> google cpanel alternatives, cause if choosing cpanel u see yourself in a fee cicle
23:11:59 <scraepy> else go take it...
23:14:32 <scraepy> *r
23:23:58 <crytocc-c2> sucks.
23:24:20 <crytocc-c2> I don't like cPanel, but I'm working on my own panel so I'm happy.
23:24:27 <scraepy> k suck iit
23:25:11 <scraepy> yep if you can hep an open api u r lucky too
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23:30:12 <anonO_o> hai
23:30:53 <kvasir> your suggestions are not helpful, as I already stated solutions other than cpanel are not acceptable
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23:50:00 <scraepy> well, its documented, they even have a forum, why not asking them to suck less
23:50:56 <scraepy> i also need a one click solution for the universe :)