Cryto! 9 May 2013

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14:00:09 <Cryto664> ciao
14:02:10 * Cryto664 slaps Hoax around a bit with a large fishbot
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15:32:33 <zxcvbnm> morning
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17:40:54 <joepie91>
17:42:50 <lady-3jane> beat it with your penis?
17:43:47 <lady-3jane> hmm crunchbang is debian with openbox?
17:43:51 <lady-3jane> seems legit
17:45:00 <lady-3jane> huh
17:45:11 <lady-3jane> openbox appears to be much nicer looking than blackbox I remember
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17:51:59 <mama> joepie91: how to know what IP skype is seeing when i connect?
17:55:38 <lady-3jane> wireshark?
18:02:18 <mama> lady-3jane: i am noob and what is this?
18:02:26 <mama> also hi :D
18:02:38 <lady-3jane> lmao
18:02:45 <mama> haha
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18:20:30 <crytoweb240> S
18:20:53 <crytoweb240> Where can i learn fundamentals of hacking??
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18:34:04 <lady-3jane> somewhere else
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18:41:30 <joepie91> lol
18:41:49 <joepie91> <mama>joepie91: how to know what IP skype is seeing when i connect?
18:41:55 <joepie91> ask someone with a 'skype resolver' set up
18:43:32 <mama> joepie91: i can ask some one to detect my IP by skype but i can't do it myself
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18:52:47 <zxcvbnm> mama: Are you on Windows or LInux?
18:55:15 <mama> zxcvbnm: windows
18:55:24 <mama> :s
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19:07:09 <zxcvbnm> mama: I personally don't like Wireshark that much, but it is necessary to become proficient in it (or something similar)
19:07:23 <zxcvbnm> I find to be a little less bulky
19:07:27 <zxcvbnm> and easier for first time users.
19:07:51 <zxcvbnm> Play around with capturing and see how the data changes when you load up Skype/web browser, etc
19:08:08 <mama> for what can i use it? to detect my IP on skype for example?
19:08:45 <zxcvbnm> Well, for example, yes. It is the communication between your ethernet/wireless device and the router/modem
19:09:00 <zxcvbnm> So whatever data is coming in to your computer from the internet can be captured through that in raw packet form
19:09:19 <zxcvbnm> And likewise, whatever is going outbound from your computer has to go through your network device
19:09:28 <lady-3jane> defcad just got wiped by us dept of defense trade controls
19:09:29 <mama> WOW! nice explanation!! THANKS!!
19:09:39 <zxcvbnm> np :)
19:10:25 <zxcvbnm> lady-3jane:  really ?
19:10:41 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) really relaly
19:10:47 <lady-3jane> big red bar at the top of their site
19:10:47 <zxcvbnm> how did you find this out
19:10:48 <lady-3jane> just went live now
19:10:53 <zxcvbnm> their site is not even accessible to me
19:10:58 <mama> zxcvbnm: my real problem is that i have 2 skype accounts, one for work so it should be with my real IP and the other is anon that i open after putting my vpn on
19:11:06 <zxcvbnm> Oh there it is
19:11:22 <lady-3jane> I saw that coming
19:11:59 <mama> link?
19:12:03 <zxcvbnm>
19:12:12 <mama> thanks
19:12:24 <zxcvbnm> I just watched a documentary on this like 2 days ago
19:12:50 <zxcvbnm> that guy is pretty smart :) I liked his attitude.
19:13:04 <mama> lol DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls.
19:13:05 <mama> Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.
19:13:57 <zxcvbnm> yeah That's not very surprising
19:17:53 <lady-3jane> I'm surprised it took this long
19:31:38 <zxcvbnm> cue the underground distribution of the same files
19:32:28 <lady-3jane> oh duh
19:32:32 <lady-3jane> barbra streisand effect
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19:38:00 <monod> hi everyone! :D
19:38:15 <zxcvbnm> hey :D
19:39:46 <monod> wey there!
19:39:55 <monod> I know has passed lots of time
19:39:56 <monod> but...
19:40:02 <monod> did you finished reading that code?
19:40:21 <zxcvbnm> In a way. I never did find what I was looking for there
19:40:27 <monod> oh..
19:40:32 <zxcvbnm> But our coders ended up removing that save password function
19:40:55 <monod> oh.. so the intended goal was achieved, fine.
19:41:05 <zxcvbnm> Yeah in a round about way
19:41:17 <zxcvbnm> Then I spent the next month and a half trying to get them to do more server side validation
19:41:31 <zxcvbnm> Entirely too much was client side..
19:42:01 <zxcvbnm> a monkey could "hack" it it was so easy
19:42:13 <monod> yup
19:42:14 <zxcvbnm> i can't even call it hacking, it was more like... a feature
19:42:35 <zxcvbnm> Oh you don't like the properties of this ? Feel free to change it! We won't check.
19:45:11 <MK_FG> joepie91, Wrt skype link above - do you have /etc/asound.conf? Simplier solution might be to set "type pulse" default pcm there, so that when skype will be using alsa, it'll actually go to pulse first (as with everything else non-pulse)
19:45:53 <MK_FG> joepie91, (or maybe not simplier, but just without installing 32-bit pulse for skype)
19:50:40 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) haha, was those features in the spec? because even fancy smart people can be silly if they're only supposed to write to a specification
19:55:09 <zxcvbnm> zxcvbnm: Ah yes, I was using it as a figure of speech :) I was suggesting it was so easy to hack the client that it was basically a feature
19:55:13 <zxcvbnm> err lady-3jane
19:55:15 <zxcvbnm> :P
19:55:39 <lady-3jane> Which is why I called it a feature :D
19:56:43 <zxcvbnm> ah, yeah. Well, we told them about it long before launch. So, it should've been in the specs to code against it.
20:02:20 <lady-3jane> mm
20:02:27 <lady-3jane> but if you didn't make sure the spec got revised, it won't be
20:02:29 <lady-3jane> :P
20:03:00 <zxcvbnm> Sure, but I'm not the devs boss, I just break their shit
20:03:11 <zxcvbnm> sometimes they care, sometimes they dont
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