Cryto! 10 March 2014
00:07:51 iceTwy has quit (User quit: WeeChat 0.4.3)
00:34:03 mama has quit (Ping timeout)
01:43:52 AnonO_o (AnonO_o@cryto-6D08483.compute.is-1.greenqloud.com) has joined #crytocc
01:44:09 <AnonO_o> hai
01:49:28 Thor (numz@cryto-636D277F.junet.se) has joined #crytocc
02:15:19 <joepie91> urgh
02:15:20 <botpie91> joepie91: 09 Mar 21:09Z <DrWhat> tell joepie91 please kick GCHQ
02:15:27 <joepie91> yeah, that's a bit late now
02:15:32 <joepie91> >.>
02:15:53 <AnonO_o> lol
02:17:10 <joepie91> my god
02:17:16 <joepie91> can't tell if stupid or poor troll
02:17:19 <joepie91> (reading backlog of that guy)
02:19:31 <DrWhat> I CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BALL
02:19:55 <AnonO_o> now you have aids
02:22:03 <DrWhat> Joepie91 search light pack and tell me what you think
02:23:01 <joepie91> DrWhat: what?
02:23:08 <joepie91> also I am about to sleep
02:23:42 <DrWhat> Thought you just got up
02:44:25 <dorotea> nope
02:44:30 <dorotea> he's been working all day :P
02:55:08 AnonO_o has quit (User quit: jIRCii - http://www.oldschoolirc.com)
03:27:03 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added "GoToAnchor" package', '02Merge pull request #2931 from eecolella/masteradded "GoToAnchor" package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/7736fec3ad...a33adef276)
03:29:35 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 1 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Fix erroneous details url from #2927How ironic that I merged the tests to test exactly this right afterwards ...' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/a33adef276...ed1ea35305)
04:06:01 foolex has quit (Client exited)
04:12:05 foolex (foolex@5D6B0912.EC145393.9A74EEF1.IP) has joined #crytocc
04:37:50 pzuraq has quit (Input/output error)
04:41:55 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
04:45:07 Thor has quit (User quit: Quitte)
04:59:01 Philosoraptor (user@cryto-666EB3B4.torproject.afo-tm.org) has joined #crytocc
05:05:03 T0rT1ller (T0rT1ller@cryto-C1680827.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc
05:06:24 T0rT1ller has quit (User quit: Connection closed)
05:42:10 pzuraq (pzuraq@cryto-8D4BA9A4.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #crytocc
05:48:20 <dorotea> NP: [PSY - 강남스타일] [PSY 6甲 (Six Rules), Pt. 1] [1031kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.1
05:48:45 <dorotea> (yes, that's the correctly titled gangnam style)
06:01:34 pzuraq has quit (User quit: Leaving...)
06:32:08 LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer)
06:33:03 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
06:35:13 Sonic has parted #crytocc (None)
08:28:31 LastOneStanding has quit (No route to host)
08:29:07 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
08:42:48 LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer)
08:43:20 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
08:53:37 jwa (jwa@jwa.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
08:53:44 <jwa> there there
08:56:37 <jwa> lets see if i'll shoot myself in the foot with this
09:05:03 <jwa> ugh
09:05:05 <jwa> okay
09:05:10 <jwa> so dnssec on rage4 is just a checkbox
09:05:26 <jwa> nfi how I get the DS records now to enter them at my registrar
09:12:54 eliasd2853 (eliasd2853@DD8840DB.924007BD.A1E71E95.IP) has joined #crytocc
09:17:56 Cryto934 (Cryto934@62ED2B78.781881EF.49FEE48F.IP) has joined #crytocc
09:18:26 Cryto934 has quit (User quit: Page closed)
09:41:10 <jwa> ooooh it's supposed to send you an email
09:41:16 <jwa> nowhere is that written
09:41:17 <jwa> hmpf
09:45:59 <jwa> and no email yet
09:55:52 An0nEnd3r (An0nEnd3r@E0907BDE.98F90333.C1B68972.IP) has joined #crytocc
10:54:04 LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer)
10:54:32 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
11:12:54 eliasd2853 has quit (User quit: )
11:43:16 <jwa> huh
11:44:21 <jwa> god why is this so hard
11:44:47 <jwa> I now have keytag, algo, type and digest for my DS record but nic.io won't tell me how to format it...
11:48:06 <joepie91> jwa; hai
11:48:19 <joepie91> you are very present for somebody who can't connect
11:48:20 <joepie91> :P
11:48:30 <jwa> yes yes that was hours ago
11:48:33 <jwa> hnnng
11:48:40 <jwa> you know your stuff round dnssec? :(
11:50:04 <joepie91> no idea :/
11:50:07 <joepie91> vld: you there?
11:50:21 <joepie91> I suspect both vld and MK_FG might be able to help you there
11:50:32 <joepie91> and maybe staticsafe
11:50:41 <jwa> “You have an invalid characters in you DS data”
11:50:43 <jwa> hhnnng
11:50:46 <joepie91> and veeeeery maybe Xeross
11:51:17 <jwa> okay I think I'm neeearly there
11:51:38 <jwa> keytag algo-number ???? digest
11:51:42 <Xeross> joepie91: I don't do DNSSEC
11:51:47 <jwa> that's the format they want I guess
11:53:20 <jwa> YISH
11:53:22 <jwa> found it
11:53:25 <jwa> digest type
11:53:36 <jwa> sha-1 is 1. sha256 is 2
11:53:53 <jwa> Update of Domain Successful
11:53:54 <jwa> wooo
11:54:41 <jwa> that only took half a day
12:02:44 <jwa> aaaand apparently it's invalid
12:04:56 <DrWhat> ?
12:05:11 <jwa> dnssec for ju.io
12:05:13 lockur has quit (User quit: Konversation terminated!)
12:06:48 <jwa> lmao
12:07:02 <jwa> dnsviz says I now have bogus DS records
12:13:29 <DrWhat> you do
12:13:38 <DrWhat> there ugly
12:13:46 <DrWhat> and full of typos
12:17:42 otiszka (otiszka@otiszka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
12:18:44 <jwa> what?
12:24:33 <jwa> DrWhat: what?
12:27:31 <DrWhat> What
12:27:35 <DrWhat> OMG
12:32:18 <jwa> what are you talking about?
12:33:45 <DrWhat> Are you looking for a good tinme
13:05:04 twitteregg (twitteregg@cryto-3FCF3CAF.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc
13:06:26 twitteregg has quit (User quit: Connection closed)
13:06:33 LastOneStanding has quit (No route to host)
13:07:49 LastOneStanding (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
13:19:47 mama (me@cryto-29895259.torproxy.org) has joined #crytocc
13:55:38 An0nEnd3r has quit (Connection reset by peer)
13:56:35 An0nEnd3r (An0nEnd3r@3A1A8B43.98F90333.C1B68972.IP) has joined #crytocc
14:00:44 * joepie91 sighs
14:00:45 <joepie91> DrWhat...
14:02:20 <DrWhat> wut
14:02:28 <DrWhat> You want a GOOD time
14:03:36 <jwa> the fuck is up with that dude
14:05:07 <joepie91> DrWhat: it would be nice if you could behave a bit more maturely when other people are doing something serious...
14:06:17 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added nRepeat to plugins in n.json.', '02Merge pull request #2932 from bfrascher/masterAdded nRepeat to plugins in n.json.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ed1ea35305...ee7bb79a0f)
14:12:56 <Xeross> joepie91: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2014/03/doodenge_drone.html
14:35:41 <dorotea> ha ha!
14:35:48 <dorotea> people on HN are being dweebs!
14:36:16 <dorotea> front page article about `is jquery too big for mobile`
14:36:25 <dorotea> article wrongly answers question `no`
14:36:59 <dorotea> HN goes wooo it's probably okay wait we don't really think about this because we almost assume everyone's in SF on iphone 7 and 4g-lte-advanced
14:37:26 <dorotea> when in reality, 3g is optimistic if you're serving outside that market
14:37:45 <jwa> dorotea: https://twitter.com/hackernewsonion
14:37:47 <dorotea> is jquery too big? yes. and any javascript that isn't hand written and optimized
14:38:37 <dorotea> jwa:) I don't want it
14:39:46 <dorotea> anybody who writes for mobile and uses jquery puts the gun to their own head
14:39:48 <dorotea> :|
14:40:52 * dorotea rages on down to neoliberalism avenue
14:41:27 mama has quit (Ping timeout)
14:42:26 <jwa> coworker of mine previously head-desk'd several times a day having to port some website backend to a frontend prototype of a contractor made with jquery mobile
14:43:41 <dorotea> sounds more like factory production line for Headdesk 2.0!
14:47:59 LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer)
14:48:00 AnonLOS (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
14:52:51 <jwa> well. I hate my current job just as much
14:56:03 mama (me@cryto-CF95923E.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc
15:08:08 Zekka has quit (Ping timeout)
15:10:18 Stassi (Stassi__@cryto-CE7FD08D.ighost.se) has joined #crytocc
15:19:41 jwa has quit (User quit: Lost terminal)
15:40:28 <joepie91> lol'd
15:40:33 <joepie91> walked back home from supermarket
15:40:42 <joepie91> walked past a villa with a Porsche on the driveway
15:41:03 <joepie91> and what did I see through the window? two plastic bags of the "Action", the rock bottom discount store chain in NL lol
15:48:51 <DrWhat> How are AMD stocks DROPPING
15:49:01 <dorotea> joepie91:) heh. It's a common understanding here that you cannot have one without the other
15:49:12 <DrWhat> Im confused
15:49:23 <DrWhat> XBOX and PS4 are built on AMD chip sets
15:49:36 <dorotea> yep
15:49:36 <DrWhat> stocks should be going up :(
15:49:42 <DrWhat> but they are dropping
15:49:54 <dorotea> what did amd fuck up?
15:50:08 <joepie91> dorotea: hmm?
15:50:12 <dorotea> gotta remember, stocks aren't actually tied to market fundamentals anymore
15:50:24 <dorotea> joepie91:) the porsche cannot exist without "action" stuffs
15:50:38 <joepie91> well yeah, that's why I laughed
15:50:53 <joepie91> the people who have a Porsche in the driveway, usually don't visit the Action
15:50:54 <joepie91> lol
15:51:00 <dorotea> monterey, our tourist town and very expensive place to visit, does not exist without seaside and marina (the poor cities where the workers who keep monterey running live)
15:51:18 <joepie91> then again, I've seen virtually everybody (including rich people) buy rock-bottom brand-less stuff at supermarkets as well
15:51:20 <joepie91> lately
15:51:30 <dorotea> excellent
15:51:40 <dorotea> ahh
15:51:44 <dorotea> I present a paper in 1h10m
15:51:46 <dorotea> >_>
15:51:56 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/2zlv9n
15:51:57 <DrWhat> WTF
15:52:06 <DrWhat> AMD isnt even in the index of my broker
15:52:07 <dorotea> post-apartheid neoliberal development
15:52:10 <DrWhat> grrrr
15:52:15 <dorotea> such wow
15:52:45 <joepie91> DrWhat is playing stocks?
15:52:47 <dorotea> I dunno what app that is, but that's a grand total of 2$ variation
15:52:52 <dorotea> that's peanuts
15:52:56 <DrWhat> joepie91 yup
15:52:57 <MK_FG> Paper on South Africa?
15:53:13 <dorotea> MK_FG:) yeah, post apartheid development regime instituted by mbeki
15:53:17 <DrWhat> dorotea the software has auto profit
15:53:24 <DrWhat> I bought 100 stocks
15:53:26 * joepie91 raises eyebrow
15:53:36 <DrWhat> 1200 euro worth
15:53:38 <dorotea> "auto profit"
15:53:43 <DrWhat> yep
15:53:44 <dorotea> "auto lulz canon"
15:53:45 <joepie91> shadiness alarm ringing
15:54:01 <DrWhat> once i get a overall profit os 100 euro its automaticly withdrawn
15:54:58 <MK_FG> Software "mines" stock-market-coins :P
15:55:07 <dorotea> yep
15:55:13 <dorotea> that's what all hft is
15:55:25 <dorotea> mining coins from between the competing algos
15:57:17 <joepie91> tbh, the entire stock marker is absolutely ridiculous
15:57:45 <joepie91> as far as I can tell - and as far as anybody has been able to explain to me - it's just an abstract numbers game, and the whole "stocks in companies" doesn't really amount to much more than a figurehead nowadays
15:58:06 <DrWhat> stocks are awesome
15:58:08 <joepie91> like, wtf, it has become an industry in itself
15:58:21 <DrWhat> i read about this one guy who played the stock market for 2 years
15:58:29 <MK_FG> ...and then they bitch about bitcoins ;)
15:58:34 <DrWhat> and earned enough money to buy the company he was playing his stocks on
15:58:42 <joepie91> MK_FG: pretty much my thoughts...
15:58:53 <joepie91> that said, I am getting really tired of the speculative crowd in BTC
15:59:17 <joepie91> DrWhat: that sounds implausible
15:59:32 <DrWhat> hmmm
15:59:32 <DrWhat> WAIT
15:59:43 <DrWhat> Since mtgox ran off with alot of BTC
15:59:52 <DrWhat> shoudnt prices are btc be going up
16:00:02 <DrWhat> since there are ALOT less btc off the map
16:00:08 <dorotea> MK_FG:) joepie91:) I suspect it's a case of "the devil you know"
16:00:20 <joepie91> DrWhat: no, and not necessarily
16:00:22 <DrWhat> untill the possibility mtgox returns all btc
16:00:33 <dorotea> no
16:00:41 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
16:00:42 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $622.11, 1 BTC = €448.37
16:00:49 <joepie91> DrWhat: first off, mt gox had become an isolated market to begin with due to their months of withdrawal problems
16:00:55 <dorotea> that's how regular economics works, but regular economics doesn't take into account near infinite divisibility of currency
16:01:01 <joepie91> it is not unreasonable to assume that "the market" as a whole already assumed those BTC to be lost
16:01:20 <joepie91> second, nobody actually KNOWS if gox ran away with them
16:01:28 <joepie91> or whether they are under somebody elses control
16:01:40 <dorotea> with usd if you take 1m off the market you actually have 1m less. in btc, you just divide smaller btc's for same dollar value
16:01:43 <joepie91> which means that it's unclear whether they will be in circulation in the foreseeable future or not
16:01:58 <joepie91> dorotea; no, what he suggested as correct (according to his POV)
16:02:00 <dorotea> loleconomics
16:02:07 <joepie91> <DrWhat>shoudnt prices are btc be going up
16:02:13 <joepie91> that's exactly the effect you're describing
16:02:32 <dorotea> yes, I was explaining it using mainstream economic reasons
16:02:36 <joepie91> I still think his conclusion is based on shoddy arguments, but assuming his arguments were to be correct, so would his conclusion
16:02:37 <DrWhat> less btc = more demand = higher offers
16:02:43 <DrWhat> well not less
16:02:46 <dorotea> see, yeah
16:02:50 <dorotea> he's even using mainstream thinking
16:02:59 <joepie91> DrWhat: that's the thing... you don't KNOW if they are 'lost' or 'unavailable' or not
16:03:03 <joepie91> and neither does anybody else
16:03:05 <joepie91> you can only speculate
16:03:17 <DrWhat> yeah
16:03:18 <dorotea> joepie91:) you're totally targetting the wrong part of his argument >_>
16:03:23 <DrWhat> Are they stolen?
16:03:29 <DrWhat> does gox have them?
16:03:38 <DrWhat> Is the wallet still out there?
16:03:44 <DrWhat> or is it deleted :O
16:03:57 <joepie91> DrWhat: nobody knows.
16:04:14 <DrWhat> I bet somone is trying to brute force gtgox wallet
16:04:19 <joepie91> dorotea: I don't see any other part of his argument where there's a problem?
16:04:34 <joepie91> DrWhat: I'm sure somebody is, and I'm also sure that they don't realize how futile it is
16:04:37 <DrWhat> Shit
16:04:56 <dorotea> joepie91:) the failure of his argument doesn't depend on lost coins or not-lost-coins. in normal econ when you limit supply (or artificially lower it), demand for current supply goes up (thus prices too). that's his argument.
16:05:07 <DrWhat> ^
16:05:09 <dorotea> joepie91:) that entire argument fails in bitcoin because of near infinite divisibility
16:05:16 <joepie91> dorotea: what?
16:05:20 <joepie91> no it doesn't?
16:05:23 <dorotea> I can't type this out
16:05:25 <dorotea> yes it does
16:05:28 <dorotea> I guaruntee it
16:05:39 <dorotea> sorry, years of economics man
16:05:41 <joepie91> how does divisibility have to do with it? it just facilitates it better
16:05:45 <dorotea> no
16:05:46 <DrWhat> bitcoin cant be divided into more bitcoins
16:06:03 <dorotea> the reduction of supply causing increased demand is predicated on dollars not being infinitely divisible
16:06:05 <DrWhat> 1 bitcoin is 1 bitcoin
16:06:15 <joepie91> dorotea: what?
16:06:17 <DrWhat> you can spliit oit into 2
16:06:20 <DrWhat> cant*
16:06:24 <dorotea> bitcoins are (for intents and purposes) infinitely divisible
16:06:36 <dorotea> (not quite, but 8 decimals for now)
16:06:41 <joepie91> dorotea: you do realize that dollars _are_ infinitely divisible, just not physically representable as such?
16:06:57 <dorotea> joepie91:) that's correct, but we don't trade mpennies
16:07:06 <DrWhat> upennies XD
16:07:11 <joepie91> no, because there is no reason to
16:07:11 <dorotea> I'm arguing from mainstream economics, joepie91
16:07:20 <joepie91> dorotea: I'm arguing that what DrWhat said is entirely correct
16:07:27 <dorotea> these are things that are assumptions for those in the mainstream
16:07:35 <DrWhat> did you know that its cost the fed 1.6pennies to make 1 pennie
16:07:39 <joepie91> whether you can divide it into smaller units or not, does not make a difference as to whether a single BTC (which is a fixed unit of a fixed supply) becomes worth more or less
16:07:49 <DrWhat> ^
16:07:49 <joepie91> it just tells you how easy it is to work with strong deflation
16:07:58 <DrWhat> yup
16:08:01 <joepie91> that you then start using smaller units such as mBTC doesn't matter
16:08:09 <joepie91> the BTC (not mBTC!) still go up in 'value'
16:08:13 <joepie91> if the supply decreases
16:08:16 <DrWhat> if soo many bitcoins become lost
16:08:26 <dorotea> that isn't my understanding
16:08:27 <DrWhat> or you have such a small amouse below 1 btc
16:08:31 <DrWhat> you can use mbtc
16:08:32 <DrWhat> :D
16:08:33 <joepie91> because a now-smaller fixed amount of BTC needs to represent the same market cap
16:08:48 <joepie91> it works exactly the same as with any other currency, or commodity for that matter
16:08:49 <dorotea> haha
16:08:54 <joepie91> it's just easier to cope with
16:09:00 <dorotea> you're arguing an even more extreme mainstream understanding than me
16:09:01 <dorotea> haha
16:09:06 <DrWhat> inb4 somone finds a exploit in the software to increess the btc cap
16:09:08 <dorotea> I am entertained
16:09:15 <dorotea> I have class, but we'll pick this up later
16:09:16 <joepie91> dorotea: this is not a "mainstream understanding", this is cold hard logic
16:09:27 <dorotea> yes joepie91 that is mainstream understanding
16:09:29 <joepie91> DrWhat: "the software" = ?
16:09:30 Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc
16:09:35 <dorotea> logic does not govern markets
16:09:35 <DrWhat> netowrk
16:09:38 <joepie91> dorotea: awesome! for once, the mainstream understanding is based on logic!
16:09:38 <DrWhat> network
16:09:47 <joepie91> DrWhat: the "network" is an abstract concept
16:09:51 <joepie91> it does not exist and you cannot exploit it
16:09:53 <dorotea> anyway
16:09:56 <DrWhat> im goingto shut up now
16:10:16 <dorotea> I must go to class, we will talk more later :)
16:10:21 <joepie91> mm
16:10:38 <DrWhat> gox says the btc's was stolen
16:10:43 <DrWhat> everyone says he ran off with them
16:13:04 <DrWhat> joepie91, do you want to go to SA
16:13:17 Thor (numz@cryto-F9D9164.torservers.net) has joined #crytocc
16:15:15 <joepie91> SA?
16:16:04 <Thor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoDBaNlWkY
16:16:52 <DrWhat> south africa
16:17:13 <MK_FG> SomethingAwful :P
16:17:20 <MK_FG> (same thing?)
16:18:17 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/2zm1bf
16:18:21 <DrWhat> i love this script
16:19:15 <joepie91> DrWhat; uh, idk, why? :P
16:19:26 <joepie91> also, blind-economist-alert: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/10/nouriel-roubini-bitcoin-is-a-ponzi-game/
16:19:39 <DrWhat> You have a stress issue
16:19:46 <DrWhat> Lets enilelate that stress
16:19:56 <DrWhat> Ever surfed on sand
16:19:58 <DrWhat> :)
16:20:23 <dorotea> I have never seen a good argument about bitcoin being a ponzi scheme
16:20:38 <joepie91> dorotea: this guy... seriously
16:20:49 <joepie91> these are the kind of arguments that a shitty troll on IRC brings up
16:20:52 <DrWhat> Thought you have class
16:21:18 <dorotea> I do!
16:21:24 <DrWhat> Oh shit
16:21:31 <dorotea> class requires pants and is 25 minutes away from here
16:21:33 * dorotea zooms
16:21:38 <DrWhat> Edward is suing Google talk to do the interview
16:21:43 <DrWhat> using*
16:21:52 <DrWhat> INB4 nsa tracking him
16:24:05 <MK_FG> There's your reason to send a missile to a random part of moscow ;)
16:24:24 <DrWhat> kill snowdan?
16:24:27 <DrWhat> NOOOOOOO
16:24:29 <DrWhat> hes cute :)
16:24:35 <DrWhat> he can live at my house :)-
16:24:40 <MK_FG> Kill Snowdan, start ww3 \o/
16:24:47 <DrWhat> NOOOOOOOO!!!!
16:24:49 <DrWhat> fuck you
16:24:51 <DrWhat> meanie
16:25:10 <DrWhat> Nuke russie yeah
16:25:15 <DrWhat> But not while showdan is there
16:25:42 <MK_FG> I wonder if he still is
16:25:54 <DrWhat> Nope
16:25:58 <DrWhat> Hes at my house
16:26:09 <DrWhat> My house is safe from the NSA
16:26:17 <DrWhat> 20 feet underground
16:26:30 <DrWhat> Self providing
16:26:44 <MK_FG> Living where everyone might look for him seem to be not ideal
16:26:57 <DrWhat> thats the thing
16:27:02 <DrWhat> They cant look here
16:27:06 Zekka has quit (Ping timeout)
16:27:16 <MK_FG> And e.g. going to some neighbor country with open borders (e.g. kazakhstan) seem to be easy
16:27:34 <DrWhat> going to a country with open boarders is good
16:27:41 <DrWhat> you can enter and leave when you please
16:27:46 <DrWhat> Live on the board
16:28:58 Zekka (zekka@cryto-4AFAE809.arizona.edu) has joined #crytocc
16:29:57 <Thor> google talk connexion don't work vey well
16:30:18 <DrWhat> yeah
16:30:25 <DrWhat> it soo laggy becuase the NSA is hacking it
16:30:26 <DrWhat> XD
16:33:04 <Thor> or maybe just because it's google :)
16:38:15 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adding repository entry for the Gradle Language package.', '02Merge pull request #2934 from kingofmalkier/masterAdding repository entry for the Gradle Language package.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ee7bb79a0f...a6979c2c9e)
16:41:02 <DrWhat> I need to learn a new lanaguge
16:41:09 <DrWhat> joepie91 any pointers?
16:48:17 <joepie91> DrWhat; Python :P
16:49:01 <DrWhat> Point me to a good tut
16:49:48 <joepie91> um...
16:50:02 <joepie91> DrWhat: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/
16:50:10 <DrWhat> O_o
16:50:16 <DrWhat> the hard way
16:50:17 <joepie91> don't let the name mislead you :P
16:50:18 <DrWhat> really
16:50:27 <DrWhat> Such hard
16:50:29 <DrWhat> much wow
16:50:37 <joepie91> the name is explained in the book afaik
16:50:47 <DrWhat> Awwwww
16:50:48 <DrWhat> books
16:51:07 <joepie91> DrWhat: a book is just a big tutorial ;)
16:51:27 <DrWhat> you think i learnt php in 1 week by reading books
16:51:35 <DrWhat> I hate reading
16:52:05 <DrWhat> WHAT
16:52:09 <DrWhat> $29.99 for the pdf
16:52:12 <DrWhat> RUSRS
16:52:18 <DrWhat> joepie91 Free please
16:52:19 <joepie91> DrWhat: link at the top
16:52:19 <joepie91> free html
16:52:23 <joepie91> ...
16:52:28 <joepie91> readingcomprehension.avi
16:52:49 * DrWhat grumpbles
16:52:57 * DrWhat grumbles*
16:53:32 <DrWhat> Print i know
16:53:36 <DrWhat> variabled i know
16:53:41 <DrWhat> math i know
16:53:56 <DrWhat> string and int i know
16:54:38 <joepie91> DrWhat: just skip over the bits you know
16:54:38 <joepie91> :0
16:54:39 <joepie91> :) *
16:54:46 <joepie91> afaik it was actually made to be possible to do that
16:55:00 <DrWhat> WTF is this
16:55:10 <DrWhat> Part 7
16:55:12 <DrWhat> Printing
16:55:19 <DrWhat> part 8 Printing, Printing
16:55:26 <DrWhat> part 9 Printing printing prting
16:55:35 <DrWhat> Somthing is tell me to not take this seriously
17:14:35 <joepie91> DrWhat: just follow it
17:14:36 <joepie91> :
17:14:36 <joepie91> :P *
17:14:57 Zekka has quit (Ping timeout)
17:25:55 <DrWhat> 43 euro profit atm
17:26:10 <DrWhat> Imma wait for it to start dropping to sell
17:26:55 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/2zmohh
17:27:20 <DrWhat> 46 euro now
17:27:28 <DrWhat> 47
17:27:37 <DrWhat> and 46 again
17:29:27 Inf3rnal (lalalala@5C0B2CEF.B458528D.147E7205.IP) has joined #crytocc
17:29:28 AnonLOS has quit (Connection reset by peer)
17:34:28 Zekka (zekka@Zekka.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
17:39:57 Thor has quit (User quit: Quitte)
17:55:01 Zekka has quit (Ping timeout)
17:55:04 <MK_FG> Just had "random.random() < 0.5" in a plugin script return False ~5 times in a row, noticed that, added random.seed() (no idea what goes on in py before script) - ~5 more times of False before first True. I should play DrWhat's lottery ;)
17:55:04 iceTwy (iceTwy@iceTwy.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
17:55:39 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/2zmz1z
17:55:41 <DrWhat> Do
17:55:44 <DrWhat> Im making money
17:56:03 <MK_FG> Bet more!
17:56:22 <DrWhat> 4000 shares :)
17:56:25 An0nEnd3r has quit (Connection reset by peer)
17:56:38 <iceTwy_znc> what in this world are you doing DrWhat o.o
17:56:53 <MK_FG> Didn't I suggest you to take that loan from the mob before...
17:57:00 <DrWhat> Playing the stock exchange
17:57:26 An0nEnd3r (An0nEnd3r@3D80D593.AAE2E054.8BD853D0.IP) has joined #crytocc
17:57:45 <DrWhat> iceTwy_znc you should try
17:57:47 <DrWhat> its fubn
17:57:53 <iceTwy_znc> er no thanks
17:57:55 <iceTwy_znc> :P
17:57:57 <DrWhat> Why not
17:58:07 <iceTwy> $ is precious and I don't want to take risks
17:58:12 <iceTwy> or at least, not now, lol.
17:58:21 <iceTwy> anyhow
17:58:34 <DrWhat> i have £10,000 on BAIDU
17:58:37 <iceTwy> does anyone have an idea whether I can run a mail server on a 256MB server?
17:58:43 <DrWhat> so far making a £24 profit
17:58:55 <DrWhat> No £48
17:59:02 <DrWhat> Now £72
17:59:05 <DrWhat> its going up
17:59:05 <MK_FG> iceTwy, For personal use - definitely
17:59:07 <DrWhat> YAY
17:59:12 <DrWhat> it was at 24 for like 5 minutes
17:59:24 <iceTwy> okay MK_FG
17:59:25 <MK_FG> iceTwy, But if you plan to use postfix, make sure it's not some openvz
17:59:31 <iceTwy> ofc
17:59:36 <iceTwy> ah
17:59:37 <iceTwy> really
17:59:39 <iceTwy> why?
17:59:46 <iceTwy> I ran a mail server on OpenVZ for months lol
17:59:54 <MK_FG> It forks crapton of pids for everything
18:00:04 <iceTwy> true
18:00:06 <MK_FG> And connects them all with two craptons of sockets
18:00:19 <MK_FG> OpenVZs usually have strict limits for all of these things
18:00:52 <MK_FG> exim or sendmail might be better, iirc both do everything in one pid
18:03:16 <iceTwy> though
18:03:27 <iceTwy> the server's going to run Postfix + Dovecot + MySQL
18:03:39 <iceTwy> so er..
18:04:45 <iceTwy> MK_FG: ^
18:08:29 <MK_FG> Dunno, maybe you'll never get hit hard enough by spammers spawning smtpd/pop/imap pids, so will be ok, and if you do - smtps are kinda tolerant to temp fails
18:08:56 <MK_FG> For personal mail probably fiiiineee
18:09:11 <MK_FG> Maybe just run and test it? Will learn how bad it can be anyhow :P
18:10:26 <DrWhat> Hell yeah
18:10:27 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/2zn4jt
18:10:33 <DrWhat> 790+ profit
18:11:57 Philosoraptor has quit (Ping timeout)
18:13:13 <MK_FG> DrWhat, Don't forget to buy AMD when you'll get filthy rich :P
18:14:52 <DrWhat> Huehuehue
18:15:26 <DrWhat> if i got filthy rich
18:15:39 <DrWhat> I would just live the chill live style i always wanted
18:15:41 *** Inf3rnal is now known as LastOneStanding
18:15:57 <DrWhat> And prolly start my own Company
18:16:34 <DrWhat> I wouold hand over full power to some one who knows what they are doing
18:16:41 <DrWhat> pay them alot of month
18:16:46 <DrWhat> money
18:16:49 <DrWhat> and take thr profits
18:17:27 <MK_FG> Why not also rape their dog while at it?
18:18:04 <DrWhat> Nashhh
20:01:15 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Moving Hayaku to tag releases', '02Merge pull request #2935 from kizu/patch-1Moving Hayaku to tag releases' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/a6979c2c9e...42fc3d2f73)
20:02:16 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added Neutron color scheme', '02Merge pull request #2936 from ale110/patch-2Added Neutron color scheme' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/42fc3d2f73...2a9a9d6abd)
20:47:47 Stassi has quit (User quit: Leaving)
21:08:06 iceTwy_znc has quit (User quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
21:48:31 LastOneStanding has quit (Connection reset by peer)
21:57:11 An0nEnd3r has quit (Connection reset by peer)
21:58:13 An0nEnd3r (An0nEnd3r@B27676AE.C0FBDF29.6DE23A8E.IP) has joined #crytocc
22:45:30 Thor (numz@cryto-6D08483.compute.is-1.greenqloud.com) has joined #crytocc
23:05:04 tylerd00d (tylerd00d@cryto-DA34DA51.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) has joined #crytocc
23:06:26 tylerd00d has quit (User quit: Connection closed)
23:09:43 iceTwy has quit (Input/output error)
23:36:39 Mabo (Mabo@cipolla895.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
23:36:45 <Mabo> hello
23:45:23 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add 'Fabric Engine - KL Language Support' package', '02Add previous_names for 'Fabric Engine - KL Language Support' since it has been renamed', '02Merge pull request #2937 from fabric-engine/masterAdd 'Fabric Engine - KL Language Support' package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2a9a9d6abd...3df99731e0)
23:54:39 <dorotea> yes hello