Cryto! 22 January 2014
00:02:16 crytoweb266 (crytoweb26@cryto-CA3E9A77.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) has joined #crytocc
00:02:25 <crytoweb266> Hey, i'm back
00:02:42 <crytoweb266> the proxy stoped e from writing you.
00:02:46 <crytoweb266> it still doesnt work, but maybe its because of some addons. What do you think?
00:02:53 <Zekka> I'm not sure offhand
00:02:55 <crytoweb266> @Zekka
00:03:04 <Zekka> You've got it running and I'm assuming the setup page says which port it's running on?
00:05:13 <crytoweb266> SSU: [cost=7] [caps=B] [ihost0=78.198.144.73] [ihost1=65.130.155.55] [ikey0=DQhmniHpnCXQDPrQqbew3Sye2C~bmlc3TzZSG7VUKJg=] [ikey1=JWcmi7PQHcUXkfInUQBjOFJEmED3FJRV0YSyX-eFFs4=] [iport0=18990] [iport1=25060] [itag0=1656693865] [itag1=1246173777] [key=Pedi22XzAXCjzSM736K7RFsFGzXBnp-asOAnsvPtLGM=]
00:05:20 <crytoweb266> inside here?
00:05:25 <crytoweb266> the iports?
00:05:34 <Zekka> No, that doesn't look like the right information
00:05:48 <Zekka> I can't say exactly what information it is but my gut is that it has to do with who it's communicating with across the wire
00:05:49 <crytoweb266> okay, wait.
00:05:57 <Zekka> being that it's p2p, that is
00:11:40 <crytoweb266> hm, can't find anything, but lists of peers and tunnels.
00:11:44 <crytoweb266> maybe this.
00:11:46 <crytoweb266> Name: I2P webserver Points at: 127.0.0.1:7658 Preview:
00:11:56 <crytoweb266> aktive tunnel.
00:13:10 <Zekka> I'm not sure: I think that's the HTTP server, not the proxy
00:13:24 <Zekka> Does i2p have its own channel, maybe Freenode or somewhere?
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00:16:56 <dorotea> hmm
00:17:05 <dorotea> i2p... damn I haven't touched that since 2006
00:17:10 <dorotea> is it still in java?
00:19:36 <Zekka> Yeah, I think so
00:26:03 <dorotea> kk
00:26:08 * dorotea wont touch it then
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02:08:14 <dorotea> I think, other than mobile web considerations, my chant this year shall be 'crypto my great grandmother can use"
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04:07:05 <gesichtskirmes> morning
04:08:39 <dorotea> morning!
04:14:08 <dorotea> ni hao, motherfucker!
04:14:28 <dorotea> (coincidentally, that's also china's foreign policy)
04:14:42 <gesichtskirmes> lulz
04:16:02 <dorotea> NP: [Ziggy Marley - True To Myself] [Dragonfly] [848kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:48:41 * joepie91 wakes up
04:50:14 * dorotea blares music
04:50:25 <dorotea> NP: [Nickelback - Rockstar] [All the Right Reasons] [1044kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:51:48 <dorotea> or maybe
04:51:49 <dorotea> NP: [Dual Core - All The Things] [All The Things] [891kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:52:03 <dorotea> also int0x80 is a pretty rad dude
04:52:11 <dorotea> <3
04:53:01 <dorotea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVdXz9Xbho
04:53:09 <gesichtskirmes> nickelback?
04:53:10 <gesichtskirmes> come on
04:53:12 <dorotea> yes
04:53:30 <dorotea> nickelback to nerdcore to north african rock
04:55:32 <dorotea> NP: [RJD2 - Final Frontier (feat. Blueprint)] [Deadringer] [945kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:56:58 <dorotea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytfrhBWJDM
04:57:18 * dorotea whispers "explore the space"
04:57:36 <dorotea> All I really want is a beat and a bassline ;>
04:58:43 <gesichtskirmes> http://i.imgur.com/IKYqYB6.gif
04:59:20 <dorotea> hey bro
04:59:25 <dorotea> do you even lyft?
04:59:58 <dorotea> NP: [Alison Mosshart and Carla Azar - Tomorrow Never Knows] [Sucker Punch] [854kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
05:00:10 <dorotea> such remix. many beatles. wow.
05:00:46 <dorotea> on that note, I'm watching the world war 2 fight scene in sucker punch again
05:01:15 <dorotea> so I can watch her mow down clockwork powered nazi zombies with a mech which has a pink rabbit painted on the front
05:01:26 <dorotea> with a chaingun, and rocket boots
05:03:11 <dorotea> NP: [Goldfrapp - Ride A White Horse] [Supernature] [1045kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
05:06:26 <dorotea> lol bible songs
05:07:00 <dorotea> it's an electro swing retelling of the story of noah
05:07:06 <dorotea> makes me lol
05:08:33 <dorotea> They knocked on the windows, battered at the door crying "Oh brother Noah, won't you take on more?" Noah said "I'm sorry my friend, but God's got the key and you can't come in."
05:16:36 <dorotea> oh god, this whole series of songs is like dirty pleasures lol
05:24:29 <joepie91> dorotea: what track is that
05:25:17 <joepie91> goddamnit, fuck sites that go "WE HAVE NEW TOS" and then just link you to the full giant TOS rather than providing a diff or something
05:26:22 <dorotea> joepie91:) which one >_>
05:26:32 <dorotea> the noah one?
05:27:25 <dorotea> noah one is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHd40RuWPKI
05:28:57 <joepie91> heh
05:29:46 <dorotea> I also have a favorite uh dubstep song called Bukkake if you're interested :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfGWw_vh570
05:30:10 <dorotea> much wub. many wobble. wow.
05:30:42 <dorotea> Rick Ross - Everyday I'm Hustlin' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5betFZRICVg
05:30:59 <gesichtskirmes> your inspirational music for a great day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-2h9LGHIY
05:32:31 <dorotea> people ask me what kind of music I like and I've taken to just laughing at them
05:32:43 <dorotea> probably not the most socially appropriate reaction, but it gets my point across
05:33:08 <gesichtskirmes> you must be a joy to be around
05:33:30 <dorotea> usually, yeah
05:33:43 <dorotea> here's an uplifting song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ui0TiehuxU
05:34:29 <dorotea> fuck that tv song, tho
05:35:28 <dorotea> If I ever get a motorcycle, `sunny side of the street` is going to be my riding music
05:35:39 <dorotea> that and dj dragnfly
05:35:44 <dorotea> cause I can't deny my origins
05:35:45 <dorotea> :)
05:36:30 <dorotea> and probably some Matangi ;3
05:36:50 <dorotea> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkIYkaLBGs <-- Alittle Matangi :>
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08:07:02 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03zippydoc on branch 10master: '02Implement fenced sections', '02Merge for 1.2 release' (https://github.com/joepie91/zippydoc/compare/fc3f2c3e3c...b55358ed0f)
08:07:05 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03zippydoc on branch 10develop: '02Support for bulletpoint lists and 1.1 release', '02Implement fenced sections' (https://github.com/joepie91/zippydoc/compare/242f4b9331...0fbcbaf6d3)
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08:19:49 <joepie91> right
08:19:51 <joepie91> back
08:20:03 <joepie91> there appears to have been a minor... IP assignment cock-up at arvel's host
08:20:10 <joepie91> so arvel is down for a bit until that's resolved :P
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08:33:49 <joepie91> http://cryto.net/zippydoc/documentation.html#Fencedsection
08:33:50 <joepie91> awesomeness
08:33:53 <joepie91> delivered
08:33:53 <joepie91> :D
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11:53:43 <monod> quick jump in :)
11:54:02 <monod> (oooh, I like xchat emoticons for win's version!)
11:54:06 <monod> back to study.
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11:57:15 <joepie91> ohai
11:59:31 <iceTwy> much hai joepie91
11:59:56 <iceTwy> what's up?
12:01:24 <joepie91> iceTwy: I just managed to treat my cat's fur against fleas, AND taught her that the flea spray bottle == good
12:01:30 <joepie91> which is a small miracle
12:01:49 <joepie91> it's not one of those tiny dosage thingies, it's a full-on full-fur treatment stuff spray bottle
12:02:08 <joepie91> the effect is similar to spraying a cat with a water bottle, repeatedly :P
12:02:33 <monod> oh, did you gave her food for behind treated?
12:02:42 <joepie91> tactic:
12:02:43 <joepie91> feed first
12:02:46 <monod> hehe
12:02:50 <joepie91> so that she'd be quiet
12:02:57 <joepie91> let her sit on bed
12:03:00 <joepie91> spray a little
12:03:05 <joepie91> watch her shoot out of the room like a rocket
12:03:19 <joepie91> calmly go pick her up and put her back on the bed, door closed, but all while being very calm
12:03:38 <joepie91> massageing that bit of sprayed stuff into her fur / onto her skin
12:03:40 <joepie91> and slowly adding more
12:04:02 <joepie91> eventually she figured out that "hey, wet stuff is an acceptable trade-off for being petted"
12:04:16 <joepie91> and from that point on she was okay with it :P
12:04:35 <joepie91> even started sniffing the spray bottle, which she only does if she's okay with something
12:04:49 <monod> lulz.. nice strategy
12:04:49 <joepie91> and now she's just sitting there lol
12:05:01 <joepie91> gave her a snack stick thingie afterwards also
12:05:11 <joepie91> to keep her from licking for a bit
12:05:26 <joepie91> it's supposedly non-toxic to cats, but she should probably not be licking it straight-away, so that it has time to work
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12:33:28 <monod> gotttttttttta go!
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12:47:51 <jwa> sup?
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12:53:58 <lysobit> botpie91!
12:53:59 <botpie91> lysobit!
12:57:21 <jwa> so I was told dorotea knows a lot about tls/ssl configuration for nginx? i'm trying to improve my configuration here https://raw.github.com/julianwachholz/ju.io/master/conf/ssl.conf
12:57:32 <jwa> any inputs welcome :)
13:05:31 <MK_FG> jwa, You can disable rc4 in favor of 3des (which is supported everywhere)
13:07:22 <lysobit> Looks good to according to
13:07:22 <lysobit> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=ju.io
13:07:25 <joepie91> .welcome jwa
13:07:26 <botpie91> jwa: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
13:07:48 <joepie91> and hai jwa :P
13:08:08 <joepie91> also, looks like dorotea might be asleep... eventually he'll pop in
13:08:44 <jwa> heh, neat
13:08:44 <lysobit> actually i should copy that config
13:09:03 <jwa> lysobit: I don't like the fact that I only get 80 points for the key exchange
13:09:19 <jwa> also I tried splitting the ciphers on multiple lines for readability but that always horribly fails
13:09:33 <jwa> but hey, feel free to do that! :D
13:11:08 <MK_FG> jwa, Lookup Qualys SSL Labs SSL/TLS Deployment Best Practices and find "Disable RC4" there
13:11:50 <MK_FG> Also, do you know how nginx handles session tickets and why they are disabled there by default?
13:12:01 <jwa> MK_FG: thanks, I already looked at it but couldn't figure out which ciphers were affected (iirc it's only broken in tls 1.0?)
13:12:22 <jwa> MK_FG: no I don't
13:12:44 <MK_FG> Because if it "encrypts" stream cipher key into them as ssl_session_ticket_key parameter suggests, it might be quite a bad thing to enable them
13:14:43 <MK_FG> "Bad" because essentially you'll need to break that ticket (and how secure is homebrew nginx encryption there?) to get the key
13:15:18 <MK_FG> Docs also suggest that one key used for all tickets for whole nginx lifetime
13:15:33 <MK_FG> Which sounds ultrabad...
13:15:49 <MK_FG> Essentially breaks DHE completely
13:15:49 <jwa> yeah I just saw that after some google-fu
13:16:23 <jwa> so you'd recommend removing the session_cache line there?
13:17:44 <MK_FG> I'd explicitly set it to off
13:18:17 <lysobit> strange. disabling SSL 3 gives you 5 extra points in ssllabs
13:18:22 <MK_FG> Fairly sure nothing should break due to that, and current/new nginx won't send tickets (not to mention reuse)
13:18:24 <lysobit> for "protocol support"
13:18:43 <MK_FG> SSL3 is kinda broken, maybe that's why?
13:18:49 <lysobit> i see
13:19:08 <lysobit> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=schneier.com
13:19:37 <jwa> yah that's why I disabled it
13:19:47 <lysobit> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=musalbas.com yey
13:19:56 <MK_FG> I half-expected to see some Bruce Schneier meme displayed there ;)
13:20:22 <MK_FG> They could've bothered to put an easter egg for that one domain!
13:20:34 <jwa> lysobit: I like your alt names
13:20:48 <lysobit> musalbas?
13:20:53 <lysobit> that's my irl name (shortened)
13:21:19 <jwa> "lol.musalbas.com"
13:21:24 <jwa> Not valid for "www.musalbas.com" CONFUSING
13:21:27 <lysobit> oh
13:21:28 <lysobit> yea
13:21:29 <lysobit> lol
13:21:30 <joepie91> pft
13:21:34 <joepie91> who uses the WWW nowadays
13:21:34 <jwa> ts ts ts
13:21:37 <joepie91> it's all about the LOL
13:21:37 <lysobit> I'm anti-www
13:21:40 <lysobit> http://no-www.org
13:21:43 <jwa> joepie91: you still have to include it and put a 301 there
13:21:55 <lysobit> http://no-www.org/verify.php?u=musalbas.com
13:23:13 <jwa> EXCEPTION!!! ForbiddenResults stored.
13:23:22 <jwa> what's that mean? that site is weird, heh
13:23:30 <jwa> class B is better than A? also weird
13:23:46 <lysobit> yes
13:24:00 <lysobit> class C is the best, but very strict: "www" doesn't resolve at all
13:24:13 <lysobit> even no-www.org itself is class B, which is the most recommended
13:24:50 <jwa> oic
13:31:04 <joepie91> grading: doing it wrong
13:31:04 <joepie91> :P
13:32:16 <jwa> interesting
13:32:17 <jwa> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=ju.io
13:32:30 <jwa> disabled session resumption - displays in bright red like an error
13:32:38 <jwa> doesn't have any negative effect on the grade
13:34:52 <MK_FG> Apparently they suck ;)
13:35:38 <MK_FG> Recommending against RC4 in their own report then green-lighting it - well done
13:38:06 <jwa> heh
13:38:23 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Implement usercount incrementing/decrementing', '02Documentation!' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/5bd86789e0...24e055a8fe)
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13:41:01 <jwa> also, google webmastertools keeps giving me the finger.. it won't fetch my site and just display the 301 response literally.. I don't even know..
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13:41:32 <jwa> but my site does in fact appear more or less correct in google search
13:45:14 <MK_FG> Maybe you had legit 301 there at some point? It'd seem to make sense for google to cache it
13:45:30 <MK_FG> (after all, it's *permanent* redirect)
13:45:47 <jwa> i've been 301ing julianwachholz.ch to ju.io since jan 7th
13:45:59 <jwa> and I submitted a 'change of domain' in GWT
13:46:03 <jwa> ugh
13:46:09 <jwa> google plus isn't loading wtf
13:48:26 <jwa> anyone else having this? page is loading forever until chromium kills it
13:49:03 <MK_FG> I broke my firefox so have no browser atm
13:50:08 <jwa> oh sweet
13:50:12 <jwa> /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
13:50:25 <MK_FG> Yay! You did it too ;)
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13:50:34 <jwa> I blame archlinux for this
13:50:38 <jwa> bet they renamed the library again
13:50:39 <jwa> I hate this
13:50:47 <MK_FG> Probably just updated
13:50:51 <jwa> they did this with freetype as well
13:50:53 <jwa> yes
13:51:01 <jwa> they renamed freetype to freetype2
13:51:03 <jwa> suckers
13:51:26 <MK_FG> Seem highly unlikely for libgcrypt ;)
13:51:36 <MK_FG> I bet you have libgcrypt.so.12 or something
13:51:53 <jwa> wait
13:51:56 <jwa> it's not in /usr/include
13:51:58 <MK_FG> Though arguably it's still arch' fault that they don't depend on proper lib version...
13:52:04 <MK_FG> Should be in /usr/lib
13:52:11 <MK_FG> (or lib64)
13:52:21 <jwa> time for an aur update I guess
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13:54:42 <MK_FG> Hey, who needs these browsers anyway...
13:58:10 <joepie91> http://www.viewizard.com/astromenace/index_linux.php
13:58:15 <joepie91> okay, this game is pretty awesome
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14:34:18 <jwa> MK_FG: lynx ftw right?
14:34:36 <MK_FG> Nah, I already fixed it
14:40:00 <jwa> how?
14:41:29 <jwa> MK_FG: oic, google-chrome AUR package now lists libgcrypt as new dependency
14:42:53 <MK_FG> Just rebuilt newer (28.0a2) aurora (fixing some stupid build issue with JAR_MANIFESTS not being declared in the sandbox_symbols.py there)
14:43:46 <MK_FG> Broke it updating icu in the morning, not libgcrypt ;)
14:44:07 <MK_FG> Don't think ff uses gcrypt, actually
14:44:37 <MK_FG> nss should just link against openssl, if against any such thing at all
14:45:20 <MK_FG> Guess gcrypt might be new dep for chrome, interesting
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14:50:02 <jwa> ugh why am I still using mysql on my work machine...
14:50:50 <jwa> and they renamed google-chrome to google-chrome-stable, yay
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14:52:38 <MK_FG> Apparently it uses both nss and gcrypt, wonder what's missing in nss that the latter one has
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15:01:37 <jwa> mysql takes forever to compiiiiiiileeee
15:02:51 <monod> I've got love at first sight with a stranger
15:03:06 <monod> now back *afk*
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15:34:24 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added BaanBaan syntax highlighting, indentation and snippets', '02Merge pull request #2672 from masal/masterAdded Baan' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/9352d97f38...a79f4a00c4)
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16:35:49 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added VEX Syntax to the repository.', '02Fixed botched indentation- spaces are now tabs.', '02Extra indentation fix under VEX Syntax entry.', '02Merge pull request #2671 from WhileRomeBurns/masterAdded VEX Syntax to the repository.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/a79f4a00c4...061dfaa19c)
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17:11:21 <monod> guys are working hard with commits :)
17:12:40 <monod> gotttta go!
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17:58:21 <lysobit> test
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18:02:24 <dorotea> lysobit:) nope
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21:11:26 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Takeover UIKit autocomplete by official plugin - with consultation with the old owner, see https://github.com/easingthemes/UIkit-Sublime/issues/3', '02previous_names added', '02Merge pull request #2665 from aheinze/masterTakeover UIKit autocomplete by official plugin - with consultation with ...' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/
21:19:31 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added Git Conflict Resolver', '02Change the details to /tags rather than /tree/master', '02Merge pull request #2675 from Zeeker/masterAdded Git Conflict Resolver' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/cfe54abaa1...7134f695b6)
21:23:32 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adding MagiclessQuotes', '02Tabs instead of Spaces', '02Ensuring correct indentation', '02Merge pull request #2673 from daryltucker/masterAdding MagiclessQuotes' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/7134f695b6...2e13533815)
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21:51:54 <iceTwy> Falkvinge really is a great guy; he tweets something fairly incorrect (as of today at least, https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/426096265437650944) but retweets tweets that correct him
21:52:08 <iceTwy> kudos to Falkvinge
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21:56:58 <dorotea> great guy? that's a pretty low bar
21:57:36 <dorotea> "admits when wrong, shows others proof of wrong" = great guy
21:57:36 <dorotea> lol
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22:27:02 <ElectRo`> are there any good seed boxes that accept bitcoin
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