Cryto! 7 May 2014
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02:20:10 <dorotea> huh
02:20:13 <dorotea> spam wasn't even any good
02:20:17 <dorotea> that's a shame
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03:33:08 <MK_FG> It was a hate spam
03:33:45 <MK_FG> At least usual "nigerian king" kind say that you're awesome, trustworthy and about to be super-rich
03:35:05 <dorotea> :/
03:35:08 <dorotea> oh!
03:35:26 <dorotea> MK_FG:) you'll find this entertaining:
03:35:27 <dorotea> "The third lecture, Security Versus Freedom — Sedition to Internment to Surveillance, will be held on Monday, May 12, 2014 and will feature BARTON GELLMAN, A critically recognized author, journalist and blogger; MICHAEL MORELL, Former acting director and former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA): and ROBERT MUELLER, Former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Leon Panetta, former secretary of defense and for
03:35:27 <dorotea> mer director of the Central Intelligence Agency, will moderate the discussion."
03:36:16 <dorotea> It's funny because they require your home address to attend
03:36:20 <dorotea> >drones
03:37:53 <MK_FG> Heh
03:38:15 <dorotea> idk, I hope they allow questions
03:38:55 <dorotea> "How horrified do you think the founding fathers would be of warrant-less assassination of US citizens overseas?"
03:39:16 <dorotea> "in the name of security, no less"
03:39:40 <MK_FG> It might actually be cool if they can now talk about some things surveillance in the open like that, post-snowden
03:39:55 <dorotea> Yeah that's what I'm hoping for
03:40:03 <dorotea> candidness in such an environment
03:40:11 <dorotea> it's a small thing and preregistration is required
03:40:15 <dorotea> so likely they'll be more open
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03:41:37 <MK_FG> Don't forget to wear a turban and have a huge backpack with wires sticking out of it :P
03:41:52 <dorotea> wouldn't be the first time
03:42:07 <dorotea> last time it was a mobile wifi access point
03:42:09 <dorotea> :D
03:42:20 <dorotea> completely powered on a battery
03:42:38 <dorotea> I was in an orange jumpsuit too
03:42:42 <dorotea> it was beautiful
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03:44:41 <MK_FG> There's this joke about sysadmin walking into an office of drones with internet issues, who ask "- whaaa?" "- I am THE INTERNET" "- <silent look of great respect>" - you're it!
03:45:46 <dorotea> :D
03:46:22 <MK_FG> Also, I do wonder if "founding fathers would not be killing US citizens for security" notion is very wrong
03:46:35 <MK_FG> Iirc they've seen an actual war
03:47:12 <MK_FG> And any dissent in wartime is usually punishable by something like death
03:47:14 <dorotea> yeah what with the civil war
03:47:22 <dorotea> but that was mostly economic
03:47:35 <dorotea> cultural-economic war
03:48:07 <dorotea> I don't know if they'd agree about that though, about dissent being punishable by death
03:48:13 <dorotea> pretty sure that's why we're here
03:51:08 <MK_FG> Congrats to them for actually stepping down from war though, not inventing a new ones every other year, like current US gov does ;)
03:52:40 <dorotea> yes
03:52:50 <dorotea> well it's recognition of how dangerous continued wartime context is
04:03:43 <MK_FG> I wonder if .eu countries (not UK) have actually got it right with euro that forces them to wind down war stuff
04:13:25 <dorotea> heh :>
04:14:52 <MK_FG> I mean, being e.g. France gov, how do you fund new war without essentially saying "we're killing this and this in budget to fund war"
04:15:08 <MK_FG> As US you just print money and tax everyone that way ;)
04:15:35 <MK_FG> But only some .de structures can print EUR afaik
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15:21:57 <dorotea> NP: [Rihanna - Shut Up and Drive] [Good Girl Gone Bad] [1032kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.1
15:22:02 * dorotea dances
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