Cryto! 25 February 2014
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08:31:40 <Xeross> Some guy on Twitter "I will never trust BTC exchanges again because of what Mt. Gox did"
08:31:41 <Xeross> ...
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10:47:34 <joepie91> http://owely.com/1rtNzm
10:47:37 * joepie91 lols
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11:54:34 <iceTwy> so MtGox is officially over?
11:54:55 <iceTwy> joepie91: ^
11:55:21 <joepie91> iceTwy: seems like it
11:55:28 <iceTwy> such amaze
11:55:30 <iceTwy> wow
11:55:43 <joepie91> iceTwy:
11:55:44 <joepie91> 1. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvdcd/heres_a_summary_of_what_has_happened_over_the/
11:55:50 <joepie91> 2. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvndw/mtgoxcom_page_source_says_put_announce_for_mtgox/
11:56:10 <joepie91> 3. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yvu2h/reminder_mt_gox_still_owns_bitcoinscom_bitcoinit/
11:57:24 <iceTwy> holy FUCK
11:57:28 <iceTwy> 744k BTC?!
11:58:50 <joepie91> iceTwy: something something internal auditing something something
12:02:04 <iceTwy> my fucking god oO
12:02:10 <iceTwy> glad I never did business with MtGox
12:02:15 <iceTwy> localbitcoins & #bitcoin-otc FTW
12:03:01 <iceTwy> also wtf "The cold storage has been wiped out due to a leak in the hot wallet."
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12:08:55 <iceTwy> unfortunately joepie91 I'm pretty sure that major media outlets will panick, i.e. "OMG MTGOX WENT DOWN BTC IS OVER"
12:15:05 <iceTwy> ugh my god
12:15:07 <iceTwy> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yv26o/gox_horror_story_thread_how_much_did_you_lose/cfo4aax
12:19:21 <joepie91> iceTwy, https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
12:20:03 <joepie91> iceTwy: guess that goes to prove that you don't need to be smart to have a lot of BTC
12:20:43 <iceTwy> indeed
12:20:53 <iceTwy> they all got goxed
12:21:32 <joepie91> iceTwy: anyway, read that article
12:25:52 <iceTwy> man wtf
12:25:55 <iceTwy> I'm reading it
12:29:09 <iceTwy> incredible
12:29:11 <iceTwy> wtf
12:29:33 <iceTwy> I'm pretty sure they applied those techniques to Occupy, too
12:31:09 <Xeross> joepie91: It has been long known people get into bitcoin without researching adequately
12:31:19 <Xeross> I lost 3BTC myself because lost wallet :|
12:35:44 <joepie91> Xeross: learning a lesson the hard way
12:36:28 <Xeross> better 3BTC than 4700+
12:36:58 <iceTwy> well
12:37:08 <iceTwy> it's all about realizing that Bitcoin is money, after all
12:37:20 <iceTwy> just like money in fiat currencies
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12:58:54 <joepie91> From march 1, it will be legal in the Netherlands for 'immigrant police' and marshal service to break into a house if there is a suspicion that it houses an 'illegal immigrant'; it will also be legal for them to search the house, including closed/locked areas, including media such as mobile phones, and all of this without permission of the resident and - as far as I can tell - without court order.
12:59:10 <joepie91> cc Xeross iceTwy and pretty much everybody else
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13:08:10 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add React package', '02Merge pull request #2873 from jgebhardt/masterAdd React package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/d2eb5e199e...c0d195f3ea)
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13:10:24 <iceTwy> er
13:10:31 <iceTwy> :o
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13:13:07 <iceTwy> wtf
13:13:08 <iceTwy> too much wtf for my brain to handle this morning
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13:26:54 <botpie91> 04musalbas made 1 commit(s) to 03jPhone on branch 10master: '02attempt at implementing decode_sysinfo3_rest' (https://github.com/musalbas/jPhone/compare/2db9fa0d95...ce84588293)
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13:34:56 <botpie91> 04musalbas made 1 commit(s) to 03jPhone on branch 10master: '02fix positioning' (https://github.com/musalbas/jPhone/compare/ce84588293...effa706402)
14:32:18 <Xeross> joepie91: Source?
14:32:38 <joepie91> https://www.piratenpartij.nl/blog/cath/razzias-woningen-nederland-vanaf-1-maart-legaal
14:32:44 <joepie91> also links to original
14:38:03 <Xeross> joepie91: de fuck is dis
14:39:10 <joepie91> Xeross: hi, welcome to NL
14:39:14 <joepie91> also http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2014/02/bijna_alle_partijen_stemden_voor_deze_wet_dus_niet_zeuren_achteraf_u_stemde_die_mensen_zelf_in_het_pluche.html
14:39:56 <joepie91> for the perspective from the other side
14:40:14 <dorotea> agh
14:40:16 <dorotea> AGH
14:40:24 <dorotea> BITCOIN COMMUNITY IS NOT IN DAMAGE CONTROL MODE
14:40:34 <dorotea> BITCOIN COMMUNITY IS IN "FINALLY, MTGOX IS DEAD" MODE
14:40:53 <dorotea> http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/25/5444866/mt-gox-goes-offline
14:40:58 <dorotea> fuck you verge
14:41:01 <dorotea> FUCK YOU VERY MUCH
14:41:27 * dorotea punches air
14:42:32 <Xeross> joepie91: The article comes across as intentionally inflammatory, the URL seems to imply they're all but happy with it too
14:43:11 <joepie91> Xeross: it's geenstijl
14:43:21 * joepie91 watches air strangle dorotea in response
14:43:36 <Xeross> joepie91: Your "For the perspective from the other side" seemed to imply they agree with it
14:47:38 <dorotea> man
14:47:47 <dorotea> I wish there was a way to instantly make shirts
14:48:47 <Xeross> I should become homeless
14:48:53 <Xeross> that way they can't force their way into my house :V
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15:00:13 <really> somebody right thereç
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15:36:41 <iceTwy> YAY
15:36:44 <iceTwy> first Python overflow! :D
15:48:31 <joepie91> iceTwy> wat
15:48:36 <joepie91> how
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15:51:55 <iceTwy> with the math lib
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16:09:24 <MK_FG> NL police sounds like Spanish Inquisition
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16:16:33 <unknown> test
16:35:43 <Xeross> https://www.mtgox.com
16:35:49 <Xeross> Look it's Mt. Gox being full off shit
16:54:19 <joepie91> .welcome unknown
16:54:20 <botpie91> unknown: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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16:59:50 <ESERANON> HELLO
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17:00:04 * joepie91 sighs
17:00:52 <joepie91> I can't help but mentally imagine somebody walking into a physical room, shouting "HELLO" at the other people present, then walking back out again and letting the door slam behind him
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17:04:54 <joepie91> this summarizes my view on people losing money on mt. gox
17:04:55 <joepie91> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yw7gv/mt_gox_ceo_karpeles_says_bitcoin_exchange_is_at/cfobmq5
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17:07:27 <MK_FG> I blame people who say that btc is money
17:08:01 <joepie91> MK_FG: should blame the dictionary makers then
17:08:01 <MK_FG> So lke money, you can put them into first bank you see or give to some scam and don't care
17:08:08 <MK_FG> That's apparently what people did :P
17:08:13 <joepie91> lol
17:08:31 <joepie91> "yeah well, enron looked legit..."
17:08:39 <joepie91> "how could I have known about it?!"
17:08:43 <MK_FG> Most people give zero fucks as to where they put their money
17:09:05 <joepie91> yeah, until it's gon
17:09:06 <joepie91> gone *
17:09:12 <joepie91> then all hell breaks loose
17:09:17 <MK_FG> Yeah
17:14:32 <complex> apart from enron, people got scammed all the time with btc
17:15:35 <MK_FG> Could be same people that get scammed by "send sms and win $1mil"
17:18:00 <MK_FG> Actually I just read about local scam that gets tons of people in this city, apparently they get sent a catalogue and separate "win millions if number matches" letter via snail mail
17:18:31 <MK_FG> Then see that it indeed matches and go fill the other "win" conditions - buy shit from that catalogue
17:18:41 <MK_FG> It's like nigerian scam 101
17:18:51 <MK_FG> Nope, huge "new" thing
17:20:47 <joepie91> MK_FG: wat
17:21:15 <MK_FG> I dunno why it's new, but highlighted "main news" on http://www.e1.ru/
17:21:30 <MK_FG> (local city portal)
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17:31:12 <complex> was it possible to buy stocks at mtgox?
17:31:19 <complex> or, is it?
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19:03:19 <david> hi all
19:03:39 <david> what this channel is about?
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19:04:30 <MK_FG> .welcome david
19:04:30 <david> stassi: are you hacker?
19:04:30 <botpie91> david : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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19:05:11 <david> That is mean this channel is avaleble to the NSA?
19:05:13 <Stassi> no I am not, sorry
19:05:23 <MK_FG> david, Yep
19:05:25 <david> np stassi
19:05:28 <Stassi> idk
19:05:32 <MK_FG> Even to google \o/
19:05:44 <david> ok so i will be careful*
19:06:10 <david> but what i wanna know is not something dangerous
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19:06:29 <david> it is just about the real origin of jews
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19:06:46 <MK_FG> Teh Mars?
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19:07:05 <david> what is teh mars ??
19:07:27 <MK_FG> It's teh red planet in teh skies!
19:07:43 <david> ah ok sorry
19:07:57 <david> no i am serious MK_FG
19:08:04 <Stassi> I dont really know about that
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19:08:36 <david> i am from south africa and we have a lot of jews
19:08:56 <david> we are all jews in my familly
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19:09:28 <david> this is why i am asking if the real jews are black
19:09:47 <david> what do anonymous know about the subject?
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19:11:02 <david> ?
19:11:12 <MK_FG> Dunno
19:11:29 <david> what does mean Dunno?
19:11:30 <MK_FG> Don't know much about teh mars either
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19:11:50 <david> ok you are joking :)
19:12:17 <MK_FG> Your question looks weird in this chan
19:12:30 <david> what about the famous league of lulzsec ?
19:12:32 <MK_FG> If you've read the topic, you'd probably know that
19:12:54 <david> why weird ?
19:13:18 <david> it is a subject that i guess interest anonymous
19:13:39 <MK_FG> Yet it clearly says "Rules: no Anonymous" for some reason :P
19:13:49 <david> as anonymous has access to many secrets about identities
19:14:09 <david> lol ok sorry
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19:14:28 <david> i will not talk about anonymous anymore
19:15:06 <david> so what do the members of l*lzs*c knows about the subject?
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19:15:36 <david> is it a secret?
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19:19:32 <david> are you white jews?
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19:20:19 <david> why no one respond to me?
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19:31:03 <iceTwy> david: please understand that this channel is in no way affiliated with Anonymous or Lulzsec
19:31:38 <iceTwy> this channel is that of Cryto, which is an independent coding collective
19:32:01 <iceTwy> so er, you're unlikely to find answers to your questions here, I'm afraid
19:32:02 <david> ok sorry guys
19:32:12 <iceTwy> aye, no problem ;)
19:32:15 <david> how to leave the channel?
19:33:01 <iceTwy> ./part #crytocc
19:33:05 <iceTwy> without the dot
19:33:19 <david> thank you
19:33:27 <david> good nigth guys
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20:47:11 <iceTwy> joepie91, dorotea, MK_FG: I haven't watched this TED talk but its title seems appealing
20:47:12 <iceTwy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeAGu40vZzI
20:47:14 <iceTwy> .title
20:47:16 <botpie91> iceTwy: Catherine Bracy: Why good hackers make good citizens - YouTube
21:10:32 <Xeross> Balance: 0.01BTC
21:10:32 <Xeross> Well then
21:10:45 <Xeross> 5USD
21:10:47 <Xeross> xd
21:21:09 <MK_FG> iceTwy, Very basic-level talk to explain why hacker values can be useful in a society to people who think hacker == cybercriminal
21:21:59 <MK_FG> Also, mention of Steve Jobs among hackers makes me cringe for some reason ;)
21:22:20 <iceTwy> well yeah
21:22:29 <iceTwy> but at least that's one little step forward!
21:22:41 <MK_FG> Especially alongside Ben Franklin, who as she said rejected idea of patents because believed that ideas should be free and such
21:22:54 <MK_FG> And *bang* - Jobs - the great hacker for your freedom
21:23:27 <MK_FG> ...freedom to buy awesome Apple products and sue everyone else over their "innovations" :P
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21:39:47 <monod> evening
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