Cryto! 19 February 2014

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00:50:54 <lysobit> .title
00:50:55 <botpie91> lysobit: "In the email interview, Mr. Karpelès responded to questions about the company's solvency or protection for customers' funds by saying that the matter is confidential. " The death knell. : [...]
00:51:29 <iceTwy> yay
00:51:42 <iceTwy> managed to do what I wanted with the YouTube API in an hour
00:53:42 <iceTwy> is amazing, too
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02:12:25 <iceTwy> joepie91: still here?
02:13:56 <dorotea> lulz
02:14:09 <dorotea> must be why mtgox is down at 300
02:14:14 <iceTwy> man
02:14:16 <iceTwy> seriously
02:14:19 <iceTwy> imgur is so inconsistent
02:14:34 <iceTwy> they assign the same id's to different resources
02:14:34 <dorotea> welcome to normal api design
02:14:40 <dorotea> correct
02:14:42 <iceTwy> no but seriously
02:14:46 <dorotea> why do you think we hate them
02:14:47 <iceTwy> that's not norma
02:14:49 <iceTwy> normal*
02:14:51 <iceTwy> lol
02:15:04 <dorotea> they delete files after 30 days of nonaccess (90? whatever)
02:15:12 <dorotea> so, reuse the names
02:15:21 <iceTwy> it's not even about that
02:15:22 <dorotea> ==> hate
02:15:28 <iceTwy> you can have 2 resources that coexist and that share the same id
02:15:30 <iceTwy> i.e.
02:15:37 <iceTwy>
02:15:39 <iceTwy> and
02:15:44 <iceTwy>
02:15:47 <dorotea> so you need to stop assuming id is a unique key
02:15:55 <dorotea> dude
02:16:01 <dorotea> why would those be unique?
02:16:06 <dorotea> they're different fucking assets
02:16:13 * iceTwy facepalms
02:16:21 <dorotea> one is a GALLERY
02:16:28 <dorotea> it's probably not even in the same fucking database
02:16:39 <iceTwy> so why doesn't it have another UNIQUE id
02:16:44 <iceTwy> it's not the same asset
02:16:45 <dorotea> BECAUSE THAT'S HARD
02:16:53 <iceTwy> lol
02:16:59 <dorotea> If you have globally unique ID's everywhere, they have to be stored
02:17:12 <dorotea> which means every time a person does ANYTHING, a new ID must be created
02:17:13 <dorotea> atomically
02:17:15 <iceTwy> you can't go like "yeah I'm going to have the biggest image host on the intarwebz"
02:17:17 <dorotea> that's HARD
02:17:25 <iceTwy> MAYBE IT IS
02:17:28 <iceTwy> but they're SUPPOSED to do it
02:17:35 <dorotea> it's also NOT FUCKING WORTH IT
02:17:36 <iceTwy> because that's just being consistent
02:17:39 <dorotea> normative statement fail
02:17:39 <iceTwy> YES IT IS LOL
02:17:41 <dorotea> no
02:17:48 <iceTwy> why?
02:17:56 <dorotea> because you're not their lead engineer
02:18:03 <iceTwy> indeed
02:18:07 <dorotea> and you do not know with what forces they're contending
02:18:16 <iceTwy> hm
02:18:23 <dorotea> or if they even "designed" their api
02:18:30 <dorotea> maybe some asshat just hacked it up in a weekend
02:18:47 <dorotea> to stop everyone from scraping their webshit
02:18:47 <dorotea> lol
02:19:12 <iceTwy> probably yeah
02:19:15 <iceTwy> plus
02:19:16 <iceTwy> oh my fucking god
02:19:23 <iceTwy> this willie dev going all on my ass like
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02:19:56 <Charles> .bitcoin
02:19:57 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $626.00, 1 BTC = €454.76
02:20:03 <iceTwy> mfw FUCK THIS SHIT: [a jpeg with 1 views (600x850)]
02:20:41 <dorotea> I think I'd have given up already, but I have like deep seated hatred for imgur
02:21:00 <iceTwy> yeah right
02:21:01 <dorotea> they ban torrent site referrers :|
02:21:02 <iceTwy> so like
02:21:12 <iceTwy> my module is supposed to figure out what imgur does not figure out
02:21:14 <iceTwy> even though it should
02:21:20 <iceTwy> while it's just SUPPOSED TO BE A FUCKING IRC MODULE
02:21:25 <iceTwy> §§11
02:21:29 <dorotea> excellent
02:21:37 <dorotea> your rage tells me imgur is winning
02:22:01 <iceTwy> well I'm not really raging because I'm still trying to come up with ways to solve the issue
02:22:09 <iceTwy> but with inconsistent identifiers all over the place
02:22:11 <iceTwy> herp
02:24:28 <dorotea> you mean because you're using regex instead of split?
02:26:04 <iceTwy> yeah
02:26:07 <iceTwy> what?
02:26:29 <iceTwy> btw, it might be hard to assign an unique ID to a resource
02:26:47 <iceTwy> but other huge services such as YouTube & pretty much all Google-related stuff do so
02:26:59 <iceTwy> and yet they're handling lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of data
02:27:59 <iceTwy> dorotea: ^
02:28:04 <iceTwy> THEREFORE your argument is invalid
02:28:05 <iceTwy> COME AT ME BRO
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05:03:45 <MK_FG> iceTwy, There's arrow for all python date/time shortcomings ;)
05:04:03 <MK_FG> iceTwy, ("arrow" as in pypi module name)
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14:13:40 <iceTwy> my god lol
14:13:44 <iceTwy> I'm dying hahaha
14:31:10 <MK_FG> What, again?
14:31:31 <MK_FG> Oh, right, same one
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14:46:27 <monod> oh finally got it
14:46:32 <monod> hello world
14:47:06 <monod> oh lol
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15:48:21 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 7 commit(s) to 03sublimetext-insertdate on branch 10master: '02Finish v0.5.1', '02Finish Hotfix-0.5.1', '02Finish Hotfix-1.5.2', '02Fix pytz resource loading for packed packagesFixes #10.', '02Slightly better debug output on failure', '02Push version to v0.5.4', '02Finish v0.5.4' (
15:48:26 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03sublimetext-insertdate on branch 10develop: '02Fix pytz resource loading for packed packagesFixes #10.', '02Slightly better debug output on failure', '02Push version to v0.5.4', '02Finish v0.5.4' (
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19:15:01 <dorotea> fuck yeah. I love it when sites have rss feeds per-author. Even better if they have rss feeds per-subsite, too.
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19:52:06 <Zekka> dorotea - I like when the RSS feed is parametric the way the search feature is.
19:58:22 <dorotea> *nods*
19:58:38 <dorotea> key-term feeds would be equally amazing
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20:03:48 <Zekka>
20:03:53 <Zekka> several thousand lines of code are contributing to this
20:03:57 <Zekka> but most of them don't do anything interesting
20:04:07 <Zekka> In a day or two it'll be really cool I swear!
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21:07:58 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02GitHub resolver bugfixes and error handling, GitHub Gist resolver, Trello resolver, Beanstalk resolver, got rid of libsaas for now.' (
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21:26:31 <monod> "key-term feeds would be equally amazing" I don't think so :D
21:26:53 <monod> everytime someone "randomly" talks of 'keyword', you get a feed
21:27:14 <monod> even in inappropriate contexts, maybe
21:43:59 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03willie-extras on branch 10master: '02imgur module for Willie' (
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22:07:50 <dorotea> monod:) that's actually the idea. Not a global feed on the internet, but on one news site. Perhaps you could have a feed that, say, gave you the article every time it contained `wikileaks` or something. Then you could easily keep on top of all the `wikileaks` news on that site.
22:11:15 <monod> oh :hmm:
22:22:35 <monod> botpie91, tell joepie91 about PMs
22:22:35 <botpie91> monod: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
22:22:52 <monod> aha
22:23:16 <monod> ("aha!")
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22:40:06 <Mankind> Hello
22:41:30 <joepie91> neep
22:41:31 <botpie91> joepie91: 22:22Z <monod> tell joepie91 about PMs
22:41:33 <joepie91> beep, even
22:41:35 <joepie91> yeah, I saw
22:41:36 <joepie91> .welcome Mankind
22:41:37 <botpie91> Mankind: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
22:42:00 <Mankind> Thanks ;)
22:42:06 <Mankind> Im sorta new here
22:42:08 <Mankind> :L
22:42:27 <joepie91> iceTwy:
22:42:32 <joepie91> Mankind: well, hi :P
22:42:39 <Mankind> Thnks ;)
22:43:35 <joepie91> iceTwy: FYI, the reason gallery ID != real image ID is something with privacy
22:43:41 <joepie91> can't recall the exact rationale
22:43:45 <joepie91> but it's in the diocs
22:43:46 <joepie91> docs *
22:44:23 <joepie91> also, the new humble bundle is awesome
22:44:24 <joepie91> lots of cool games :D
22:46:15 <dorotea> you know what's fucking horrible? when pbs has old content in realmedia format so nobody can watch it
22:47:15 <dorotea> you know what's awesome? the person who authored the documentary in rm format years ago put it up on vimeo so I can see it.
22:47:29 <dorotea> this is acceptable
22:48:54 <joepie91> dorotea: link pls, brb transcode
22:48:55 <joepie91> :D
22:54:16 <joepie91> gah
22:54:19 <joepie91> Dust runs like shit under nouveau
22:54:19 <joepie91> wtf
23:00:19 <joepie91> well then.
23:00:26 <joepie91> guess I won't be playing dust tonight
23:00:27 <joepie91> :(
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23:22:11 <lysobit> .title
23:22:12 <botpie91> lysobit: Winklevoss Brothers Launch 'Winkdex' For Bitcoin Pricing - Forbes
23:25:14 <dorotea> joepie91:) sorry, was watching it on vimeo haha
23:30:18 <dorotea> NP: [M.I.A. - Bring The Noize] [Matangi] [970kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
23:36:49 <iceTwy> well joepie91
23:36:51 <iceTwy> wtf w/ Coursera
23:36:54 <iceTwy> :(
23:37:37 <joepie91> ya
23:38:28 <staticsafe> ohai
23:41:07 <joepie91> hai staticsafe
23:41:29 <staticsafe> sup joepie91
23:41:59 <iceTwy> after like
23:42:01 <iceTwy> 3 years or more
23:42:07 <iceTwy> I'm yet to see joepie91 saying sup
23:42:37 <joepie91> hehe
23:42:42 <joepie91> it's in my blacklist :)
23:44:51 <iceTwy> :P
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23:52:17 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Switched CUDA C++ package to semantic versioning (github /tags)', '02Merge pull request #2854 from harrism/masterSwitched CUDA C++ package to semantic versioning (github /tags)' (
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