Cryto! 15 February 2014
00:00:03 <dorotea> chrome knows me well. its dns on-launch prefetch pulled in my site, google's cdns, and twitter's cdns
00:00:04 <iceTwy> dorotea: http://imgur.com/gallery/DbGKeAT
00:00:44 <dorotea> excellent!
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00:10:45 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added ITDCHelper plugin', '02Merge pull request #2833 from akalongman/patch-2Added ITDCHelper plugin' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/94cc35c683...ea3c8128bc)
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00:25:59 <dorotea> hmm
00:26:05 <dorotea> might be time to remove x-ua-compatible headers
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00:48:55 <iceTwy> OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
00:49:05 <iceTwy> Animals as Leaders are releasing their new album on March 25th.
00:49:12 <iceTwy> I can't even
00:49:14 <iceTwy> handle this
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00:52:54 <dorotea> :D
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01:17:05 <dorotea> haha
01:17:13 <dorotea> took it 15 minutes to realize I rebooted my router
01:30:42 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added a new repository 'Libraries from CDN'', '02Merge pull request #2835 from narendrans/masterAdded a new package 'Libraries from CDN'' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/d1e91fcdae...ee687d962d)
01:32:42 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added "Grunt Snippets"', '02Pointing to /tags instead of /tree/master', '02Merge pull request #2834 from devatrox/masterA Grunt snippets package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/ee687d962d...69928d1fc6)
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02:02:32 <dorotea> am I the only one who thinks peercoin, by hybridizing between pow and pos system has merely turned one problem into two?
02:51:50 <dorotea> terrible idea: Enable the comments section for people who actually read the story (spent over content-length-minutes on the page)
02:52:04 <dorotea> (except it's an amazing idea)
04:55:08 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add labels for "Jade Build"', '02Merge pull request #2837 from mutian/patch-1Add labels for "Jade Build"' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/69928d1fc6...b0b093ec4e)
04:55:12 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add labels for "CSS Format"', '02Merge pull request #2838 from mutian/patch-2Add labels for "CSS Format"' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/b0b093ec4e...94e8ddc994)
05:39:37 <MK_FG> dorotea, But make sure they also scroll, not just had tab open for a while
05:40:09 <dorotea> oh, yeah, it's called "reading depth
05:40:27 <dorotea> it'd be both x minutes reading article and made it to the bottom
05:40:39 <dorotea> you can bypass it, yeah, but that's not the point
05:40:43 <dorotea> just needs to be a higher barrier
05:41:19 <dorotea> and ttr is what medium uses as a key metric (which is what I'm suggesting here for less fucking advertising purposes)
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07:15:13 <monod> morning!
07:15:19 <monod> loggy, pointer?
07:15:19 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-15#T07-15-19
07:15:25 <monod> thanks loggy
07:39:50 <monod> maths here I come!
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10:26:05 <joepie91> morning!
11:01:59 <joepie91> dorotea; http://opalang.org/
11:02:36 <joepie91> (I wonder if they realize that "opa" is the Dutch translation for "grandpa")
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11:56:41 <lysobit> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8vCj4DOsHc&feature=youtu.be
11:56:42 <botpie91> lysobit: Zhou Tonged - You Just Got Mt. Goxed! (Snoop Dogg - Drop It Like It's Hot) - YouTube
12:03:13 <iceTwy> yeah, I listened to it lysobit
12:03:18 <iceTwy> Zhou Tonged is amazing lol;
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13:38:17 <iceTwy> stack overflow
13:38:42 <iceTwy> powering your shit since '08
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17:37:42 <joepie91> iceTwy: ding
17:37:43 <joepie91> !
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17:44:32 <iceTwy> joepie91: dong
17:44:57 <joepie91> iceTwy: when do you has time, and have you put in a ticket about tun/tap yet (or are you not using openvz?)
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17:45:12 <iceTwy> I am using OpenVZ but I've got the option to turn it on/off at will
17:45:15 <iceTwy> or so I believe, one sec
17:45:28 <joepie91> oh?
17:46:50 <iceTwy> ya, I can!
17:46:58 <iceTwy> I can also turn on/off PPP
17:47:11 <iceTwy> there, enabled
17:49:30 <dorotea> yeeeeeee
17:49:32 <iceTwy> well joepie91
17:49:40 <iceTwy> I'll have to shower and cook and have dinner
17:49:42 <iceTwy> but say..
17:49:49 <dorotea> NP: [RJD2 - Final Frontier (feat. Blueprint)] [Deadringer] [945kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
17:49:52 <iceTwy> 9:10 - 9:15PM?
17:49:57 <dorotea> we're here, the final frontier
17:50:07 <dorotea> iceTwy:) how about a time diff instead of unqualified relative time
17:50:08 <dorotea> lol
17:50:18 <iceTwy> we're in the same timezone dorotea
17:50:22 <iceTwy> Europe niggaz
17:50:22 <dorotea> oh :D
17:50:27 <iceTwy> much jelly? :D
17:50:27 <dorotea> still
17:50:29 <dorotea> no
17:50:32 <dorotea> well kinda
17:50:37 <dorotea> wtb a different bread every day of the year
17:50:37 <joepie91> iceTwy: europe doesn't have one timezone
17:50:38 <joepie91> lol
17:50:39 <dorotea> <3 france
17:50:43 <joepie91> but it's 18.50 here now
17:50:45 <iceTwy> yes, I know
17:50:49 <iceTwy> so is it here joepie91
17:50:59 <dorotea> (yes)
17:51:04 <joepie91> and 21:10 (24h clock, bitches) is fine for me
17:51:06 <joepie91> :P
17:51:13 <iceTwy> much nice
17:51:15 <iceTwy> wow
17:51:34 <joepie91> I'll continue removing discs, covers and serial stickers from DVD cases in the meantime...
17:51:41 <iceTwy> oh also
17:51:50 <iceTwy> I discovered something better than Flappy Birds
17:51:58 <iceTwy> Boson X - available on Linux
17:53:21 * dorotea laughs
17:53:31 <dorotea> anything is better than flappy birds, maaaaaan
17:53:48 <iceTwy> man, no
17:53:51 <dorotea> speaking of colloquialisms, I need to watch the slopestyle competitions
17:53:52 <iceTwy> flappy birds is THE shit
17:54:11 <iceTwy> okay, so, help me out, joepie91
17:54:22 <iceTwy> I'm facing a mini-library development issue
17:54:45 <iceTwy> I need to know whether I'm making the best choice
17:54:47 <iceTwy> or nein
17:55:11 <joepie91> ask thy conundrum
17:55:19 <iceTwy> okay
17:55:35 <iceTwy> well essentially I'm developing this mini-library for the Imgur API
17:56:01 <iceTwy> it's just made to access publicly available stuff on Imgur, so there's no authentication involved at all
17:56:06 <iceTwy> (fucking thankfully)
17:56:41 <iceTwy> now the point is to use this library in an IRC bot (for willie, https://github.com/embolalia/willie)
17:57:42 <iceTwy> now, the dilemma is the following; when the IRC bot receives a link that begins with http(s)://imgur.com/endpoint, it's supposed to give informations about the endpoint
17:58:12 <dorotea> like header info and how long it took to fetch?
17:58:17 <iceTwy> no
17:58:20 <iceTwy> keep on reading
17:58:28 <iceTwy> so
17:58:31 * dorotea applies framework of previous fetchbots to current one and fails
17:59:00 <iceTwy> the endpoint can look anything like: album/albumid, comment/commentid, account/user/gallery, etc
17:59:01 * dorotea almost wrote fetchcones
17:59:15 * dorotea oh!
17:59:21 <iceTwy> there are two ways to go around this.
17:59:38 <iceTwy> either the IRC bot interprets the URL as: imgur.com + endpoint as a whole
18:00:00 <iceTwy> or imgur.com + endpoint1 (account) + endpoint2 (gallery) + endpoint3 (album) etc
18:01:03 <iceTwy> I believe that interpreting the URL as imgur.com + endpoint as whole (e.g. account/gallery/album) ends up in privileging the bot over the library
18:01:23 <iceTwy> and that interpreting the URL as imgur.com + endpoint1 + endpoint2 etc ends up in privileging the library over the bot
18:01:36 <iceTwy> (because regex'ing imgur.com/endpoint as a whole is simpler)
18:01:48 <iceTwy> what should I do
18:02:02 <iceTwy> prefer the library over the bot, or the other way around
18:02:40 <joepie91> I don't really understand what the "privileging" thing is about
18:02:47 <joepie91> but if you have support for all types of endpoints
18:02:50 <joepie91> just grab imgur.com/*
18:03:09 <iceTwy> okay
18:03:33 <iceTwy> well
18:03:35 <iceTwy> joepie91:
18:04:03 <iceTwy> what I mean by privileging for example the library over the bot, is that we get to split the whole endpoint into a subset of endpoints
18:04:19 <iceTwy> and then represent that subset of endpoints in some ordered data type
18:04:19 <dorotea> It sounds like a question of how badly to special-case imgur.com and associated endpoints
18:04:52 <iceTwy> it would've been a thousand times simpler if imgur just used normal parameters
18:05:06 <dorotea> why would they make your life easy?
18:05:09 * dorotea grins
18:05:13 * dorotea sees no incentive
18:05:18 <iceTwy> because, requests
18:05:30 <joepie91> I'm completely lost as to what your problem is
18:05:33 <joepie91> also
18:05:40 <joepie91> http://owely.com/7EUhnB
18:05:49 <iceTwy> joepie91: I'll figure it out :P
18:06:07 <iceTwy> but I'm thinking that since noone will give 2 fucks about my library and that it will probably just end up being used for the bot
18:06:12 <iceTwy> I'll just go with what's simpler for the bot
18:06:17 <iceTwy> aka imgur.com/*
18:06:24 <dorotea> yeah
18:06:29 <dorotea> dude, just catch all imgur
18:06:33 <dorotea> and split it inside your extension
18:06:42 <iceTwy> it doesn't even have to be split really
18:06:49 <dorotea> handle, whatever
18:06:57 <iceTwy> my god joepie91
18:06:58 <dorotea> doesn't fucking matter, detect endpoint and handle
18:06:59 <dorotea> lol
18:07:01 <iceTwy> what in this world are you doing
18:07:03 <iceTwy> dorotea: :p
18:07:23 <dorotea> if you're cool being the default handler for imgur, just do it
18:07:35 <dorotea> if somebody wants to bitch, "send me a pull, nikka"
18:07:54 <joepie91> iceTwy: I'm removing covers/CDs/serial stickers from boxes
18:07:58 <joepie91> to prepare for scanning and archiving
18:08:02 <iceTwy> dorotea: yeah exactly
18:08:03 <joepie91> and storing empty boxes
18:08:08 <joepie91> and giving them away to anybody who wants them
18:08:09 <iceTwy> hmm, okay.
18:08:09 <joepie91> lol
18:08:12 <iceTwy> lol
18:08:21 <dorotea> wppt
18:08:23 <dorotea> :>
18:08:24 <joepie91> that pile you saw is about 1/4th of the total
18:08:37 <dorotea> oh that reminds me
18:08:38 <joepie91> (before I gave some away)
18:08:40 <dorotea> I need to scan that book
18:08:45 <dorotea> maybe this summer
18:08:46 <dorotea> lol
18:08:51 <iceTwy> USPS, please bring me my package already
18:08:52 <iceTwy> :'(
18:09:21 * dorotea cherche
18:09:35 <iceTwy> haha
18:09:41 <iceTwy> it's supposedly in Jamaica, NY
18:09:46 <iceTwy> or at least it was last seen there
18:10:33 <dorotea> heh
18:10:35 <iceTwy> I'm pretty sure they just ended up smoking a blunt in the processing place and forgot about my package
18:10:37 <iceTwy> fuckin rastas
18:10:49 <dorotea> ay mon, don be hatin jah
18:10:58 <iceTwy> haha
18:10:59 <iceTwy> one love
18:11:05 <dorotea> :3
18:11:18 <dorotea> dem rastas be da bes
18:11:35 <dorotea> man, I forgot about this book
18:11:50 <dorotea> http://www.amazon.com/And-Dont-Call-Me-Racist/dp/B000BVTNW4
18:11:58 <dorotea> It's a great book
18:12:13 <dorotea> .title
18:12:14 <botpie91> dorotea: And Don't Call Me a Racist!: A Treasury of Quotes on the Past, Present, and Future of the Color Line in America: Ella MAZEL: Amazon.com: Books
18:12:38 <iceTwy> hmm
18:12:39 <dorotea> it's a hilariously ME book
18:12:39 <dorotea> lol
18:12:40 <iceTwy> right
18:12:44 <iceTwy> I miiiiiiiight need a shower
18:12:52 <iceTwy> today was legs day
18:12:57 <joepie91> somebody gave me some old promotional "Club Nintendo" audio CD from 1995, and it has a booklet with some Nintendo ads... one of them is for the "Ultra 64", which was the pre-release name of the Nintendo 64
18:13:05 <joepie91> it literally has the Ultra 64 logo on it
18:13:08 <dorotea> wow
18:13:11 <dorotea> bit o history
18:13:15 <iceTwy> lol
18:13:17 <iceTwy> really?
18:13:24 <joepie91> yes :>
18:13:26 <iceTwy> man the N64 were just hours and hours of joy
18:13:29 <iceTwy> was*
18:13:30 <joepie91> let me make a quick scan
18:13:31 <joepie91> just a moment
18:13:39 <iceTwy> it was sooooooo fun
18:13:39 <dorotea> momentai~
18:13:53 <joepie91> un momentai
18:14:08 <dorotea> that reminds me, I need to practice pronouncing polish
18:14:28 <dorotea> the czech and related languages are the only ones that still give me problems
18:15:32 <dorotea> fucking
18:15:34 <dorotea> OH
18:15:41 <dorotea> so somebody from tunisia added me on facebook
18:15:42 <dorotea> :D
18:16:09 * joepie91 is doing a 600DPI scan
18:16:24 <dorotea> lol is that your definition of shit-tier
18:16:34 <dorotea> only twice print
18:16:35 <dorotea> lol
18:16:41 <joepie91> lol
18:16:42 <joepie91> yes
18:16:46 <joepie91> it's the max of this scanner actually
18:16:53 <joepie91> and doesn't always work
18:16:54 <dorotea> can't see the inkblots yet, must be shit-tier
18:16:55 <joepie91> 450 always works
18:16:58 <joepie91> haha
18:17:07 <dorotea> I loved that about mine
18:17:10 <dorotea> it does 4800dpi
18:17:15 <joepie91> well my normal res is 300 or 600 DPI for magazines
18:17:19 <dorotea> I can literally see the individual ink blobs
18:17:20 <joepie91> 450dpi for disc labels
18:17:26 <joepie91> heh
18:17:34 <dorotea> neat as fuck <3
18:17:35 <joepie91> dorotea: are you confusing your microscope with your scanner again
18:17:36 <joepie91> :D
18:17:50 <dorotea> no, that's at my mom's house
18:17:52 <dorotea> >_>
18:17:57 <joepie91> when rotating an image takes 15 seconds...
18:18:05 <dorotea> 15? that's pretty fast
18:18:08 * dorotea grins
18:18:14 <dorotea> but eh
18:18:40 <dorotea> my mom started her work stiching orthophotoquads together in corel on a p4 1.6ghz and 512mb ram
18:18:56 <dorotea> each quadrant is 200mb of tiff, at the small end
18:19:10 <joepie91> haha
18:19:22 <dorotea> huh
18:19:34 * joepie91 is uploading ultra64.png
18:19:36 <dorotea> I never realized, maybe that's why I know there is no visual privacy
18:19:43 <dorotea> cause that was over 10 years ago
18:19:53 <dorotea> and you can look at the leaves on the plants on the ground
18:20:00 <dorotea> (this was satellite imagery)
18:20:27 <joepie91> I hope none of you have a browser that will freak out about 30MB PNGs...
18:20:33 <dorotea> hit me
18:20:34 <dorotea> :D
18:20:38 * joepie91 hits dorotea
18:20:41 <joepie91> :D:D:D
18:20:42 * dorotea ducks
18:20:46 <dorotea> :D:D:D
18:20:55 * joepie91 swings around and, in true comic fashion, swings into his own face
18:21:07 * dorotea catches joepie91 so he doesn't fall
18:21:39 * dorotea sucks down new bootstrap
18:21:46 <joepie91> dorotea: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/ultra64.png
18:21:48 * dorotea bootstrap's boot straps
18:22:06 <dorotea> YEAH
18:22:09 <dorotea> ASTERIX ET OBELIX
18:22:20 <dorotea> SUCH WIN MANY WOW
18:23:02 * dorotea your MOM plays with ultra power!
18:23:42 <dorotea> hmm
18:23:43 <joepie91> dorotea: note the piss poor photoshop job in that ad
18:23:45 <joepie91> look at the edges
18:23:46 <joepie91> lol
18:23:47 <dorotea> what is bootstrap utilities
18:23:54 <dorotea> lmao
18:24:01 <dorotea> OH
18:24:02 <dorotea> that reminds me
18:24:09 <dorotea> I need to figure out how to make a pull request
18:24:26 <dorotea> I want to send a pull request for bootstrap 3.2 to remove modals, so they can stop supporting that UI antipattern
18:24:31 <joepie91> dorotea: I think this was actually physically cut and pasted...
18:24:37 <dorotea> very likely
18:24:43 <joepie91> the edges look scissor-cut
18:24:45 <dorotea> ps wasn't until what 97?
18:24:50 <dorotea> 98?
18:25:09 <dorotea> there was some stuff before that, but that's why ps was cool cause it didn't suck so bad
18:25:32 <dorotea> oh shit
18:25:33 <dorotea> '88
18:25:56 <dorotea> I mean 6 was when it got decent
18:26:00 <dorotea> but that was 2000
18:26:35 <dorotea> that remiiiiinds me
18:27:17 <dorotea> I need to go look at adobe's quarterlies and see how they're surviving the subscription market
18:27:40 <dorotea> because imo adobe subscription is a brilliant idea
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19:43:37 <dorotea> joepie91:) I should probably update aranjepack
19:43:50 <dorotea> joepie91:) did you know I still get referrals from when you posted about it on LET
19:43:54 <joepie91> yes, you probably should
19:43:55 <joepie91> :P
19:44:11 <dorotea> It's been like 9 months
19:44:11 <dorotea> lol
19:44:23 <dorotea> but I have to be like "fuck you no windows8 isn't supported"
19:44:35 <dorotea> actually the new nsis will support it
19:44:39 <dorotea> but it ain't out yet, heh
19:52:16 <dorotea> oh shit, new filehippo is pretty
19:52:27 <dorotea> let's see if their download page is as bad as it used to be
19:52:58 <dorotea> impressive! they managed to cram even more ads in
19:55:50 <dorotea> wow, chrome won't let you manually specify which OS you're using
19:55:56 <dorotea> like, on the download page
19:56:18 <dorotea> you can switch to another OS, but you can't download the standalone install AND pick a different OS
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20:08:02 <joepie91> .in 2m iceTwy, hai
20:08:03 <botpie91> joepie91: Okay, will remind at 20:10Z
20:10:04 <botpie91> joepie91: iceTwy, hai
20:11:03 <dorotea> lol
20:11:09 <dorotea> hmm
20:11:20 <iceTwy> joepie91: erm
20:11:26 <iceTwy> I'm having a dessert
20:11:31 <iceTwy> will be back in 10-15 min!
20:11:38 <joepie91> lol
20:11:38 <dorotea> you can type and dessert at the same time
20:11:39 <joepie91> boo
20:11:52 <MK_FG> Shush, let the bots do the talking
20:11:59 <dorotea> :P
20:12:03 <joepie91> dorotea: that has a tendency of significantly decreasing peripheral lifespan
20:12:42 <dorotea> wat
20:12:55 <joepie91> spilling..
20:12:56 <dorotea> so I'm the only one who doesn't spill shit?
20:13:07 <MK_FG> "doesn't spill shit" YET
20:13:35 <dorotea> if you eat at your desk for years I find it reasonable that you'd get good at not spilling
20:14:15 <MK_FG> I do that all the time too, and so far it cost me only two laptops :P
20:14:42 <dorotea> I haven't lost a single object
20:14:52 <MK_FG> (...yet)
20:15:50 <dorotea> dude my food sits on a laptop
20:16:00 <dorotea> it's been here for months
20:16:02 <dorotea> lol
20:17:12 <joepie91> dorotea: yes, that's the problem
20:17:15 <joepie91> it sits there for months ;)
20:17:31 <MK_FG> dorotea, It's still just a question of time, given that you don't avoid it altogether
20:17:47 * joepie91 has spilled tea over his keyboard a few times
20:17:56 <joepie91> <3 spill-proof keyboard
20:18:16 <dorotea> I don't think it is >_>
20:18:26 <MK_FG> And you're wrong ;)
20:18:42 <dorotea> I wasn't raised to eat that way >_>
20:19:06 <dorotea> I eat food that supposedly drips or spray shit everywhere without a single drop
20:19:13 <dorotea> not even on the plate
20:19:15 <dorotea> >_>
20:19:54 <MK_FG> I can definitely say the same about myself, but shit happens, given long enough period of time
20:19:57 <dorotea> hmm
20:20:03 <dorotea> I should take spybot out of aranjepack
20:20:16 <dorotea> yes but also on a long enough timescale we all die
20:20:41 <MK_FG> I think first lappy I've killed was due to stuff accidentally spilling from a plate when I lifted it with one hand and it clipped into the mug
20:20:42 <dorotea> what a/v should I include
20:20:56 <dorotea> that's why the drinks go on the right side
20:20:57 <dorotea> lol
20:21:05 <MK_FG> And before that I said something along the same lines you do now ;)
20:21:13 <joepie91> "clipped"
20:21:19 <dorotea> drinks ALWAYS go on the right side
20:21:21 <joepie91> is this actually a valid word outside 3D stuff
20:21:21 <joepie91> lol
20:21:26 <dorotea> if on the left, they get spilled
20:21:27 <MK_FG> Clearly it was a physics bug!
20:21:42 <dorotea> anyway
20:21:43 <joepie91> haha
20:21:45 <MK_FG> I never spill stuff
20:21:47 <dorotea> what a/v sucks the least these days
20:21:49 <dorotea> avast?
20:21:50 <joepie91> MK_FG: suddenly, part of the plate disappeared into the mug...
20:21:56 <joepie91> dorotea: I'd say avast
20:22:10 <dorotea> cause I'mma take spybot out
20:22:11 <joepie91> my usual install on windows boxes is avast free + superantispyware free
20:22:12 <dorotea> and mse
20:22:15 <dorotea> because fuck mse
20:22:16 <MK_FG> disappeared, then started jerking violently
20:22:22 <MK_FG> Then exploded!
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20:22:24 <joepie91> MK_FG: that's what she said
20:22:31 <MK_FG> (that's what happens in skyrim anyway)
20:22:33 <dorotea> not actually fuck mse, it was amazing for the first like 2 years
20:22:35 <dorotea> now it's a shitshow
20:22:52 <joepie91> MK_FG: do you have any idea what a beautiful double entendre you just made
20:22:53 <joepie91> haha
20:23:11 <dorotea> :>
20:23:24 <MK_FG> Yeah, I guess it doesn't look too good out of context :P
20:23:34 <joepie91> it looks awesome :P
20:24:27 <MK_FG> dorotea, Use the forc... kvm + vfio and do windows in immutable vms
20:24:43 * joepie91 wonders if anybody ever uses these shitty CDs that you get with school textbooks
20:26:31 <dorotea> wat
20:26:33 <dorotea> lol
20:26:48 <dorotea> why would I do anything on windows
20:26:53 <dorotea> I'm even compiling aranjepack on linux
20:27:24 <MK_FG> Umm... so it's avast on linux?
20:27:38 <dorotea> no :D
20:27:43 <MK_FG> :D
20:27:46 <dorotea> actually I'd use that
20:27:48 <dorotea> but no
20:28:03 <iceTwy> many wow
20:28:05 <iceTwy> such back
20:28:05 <dorotea> grsec kernel would do me better than antivirus
20:28:07 <iceTwy> very joepie91
20:28:10 <MK_FG> Isn't avast being that thing that pops up ads at you occasionally?
20:28:19 <dorotea> idk
20:28:22 <dorotea> I haven't used it since 2008
20:28:23 <joepie91> MK_FG: ... no?
20:28:26 <iceTwy> MK_FG: Kaspersky's the worst at that
20:28:29 <iceTwy> ads every fucking 15 mins
20:28:29 <joepie91> iceTwy: hai
20:28:30 <joepie91> wb
20:28:34 <iceTwy> such wb joepie91
20:28:36 <iceTwy> many thanks
20:28:40 <joepie91> dorotea: there's an Avast for Linux btw
20:28:42 <joepie91> iirc
20:28:48 <MK_FG> I'm probably confusing it with some other thing then
20:28:48 <dorotea> it's too bad, because kaspersky labs is a decent research facility
20:29:13 <dorotea> yeah
20:29:18 <joepie91> iceTwy: less doge, more openvpn
20:29:19 <joepie91> lol
20:29:21 <iceTwy> yeah, kaspersky are good at research
20:29:29 <iceTwy> less doge? wow unimpressed
20:29:37 <iceTwy> very XMPP
20:30:24 <dorotea> awh, avast's aussie site went away (or is down)
20:30:29 <dorotea> it was awesome
20:30:44 <joepie91> ?
20:31:25 <dorotea> it was a plone site with every version of avast ever published, and a huge knowledge base for problems and such
20:31:29 <dorotea> no bullshit non-marketing site
20:33:14 <MK_FG> Was probably euthanized when plone game some backtrace of enterprise proportions
20:33:18 <MK_FG> *gave
20:35:52 <dorotea> lol yeah
20:36:10 <dorotea> plone's awesome except that it's a motherfucking behemoth
20:50:20 <iceTwy> dat sigh of relief when Python has EXACTLY the thing you need for
20:50:25 <iceTwy> built in as pretty much a core component
20:51:12 * Sabit pokes joepie91
20:51:17 * joepie91 pokes Sabit :D
20:51:26 <Sabit> i'm alive! :P
20:51:34 <joepie91> I can see that :P
20:51:50 <joepie91> Sabit: http://owely.com/9GEOdh & http://owely.com/7EUhnB
20:51:53 <joepie91> archiving CDs/DVDs
20:51:55 <Sabit> how have you been?
20:51:59 <Sabit> :o
20:52:18 <joepie91> I'm okay in general :P
20:52:34 <joepie91> also that pile of boxes
20:52:37 <joepie91> is 1/4th of the total I had
20:52:42 <Sabit> daaammnn
20:53:30 <joepie91> I have insane stacks of discs :D
20:53:49 <joepie91> I also have 7 classic Maxis games...
20:54:03 <Sabit> :o
20:54:19 <Sabit> wat
20:54:20 <Sabit> how
20:54:35 <joepie91> SimSafari, SimTower, SimCity, SimTown, SimTunes, SimEarth, SimLife, SimAnt
20:54:39 <joepie91> so that'd be 8 actually
20:54:44 <Sabit> O_O
20:54:57 <joepie91> I'm missing 3-5 or so though
20:55:01 <joepie91> these aren't all the classic Maxis games
20:55:07 <joepie91> Sabit: they were part of a re-release batch a while ago
20:55:13 <joepie91> a while ago == 9 years ago
20:55:15 <Sabit> ooooh
20:55:17 <joepie91> budget bin, 2 euro each
20:55:18 <joepie91> lol
20:55:21 <Sabit> still pretty recent lol
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20:55:29 <joepie91> games are much older
20:55:32 <joepie91> that's just the re-release date
20:55:32 <Sabit> yeah
20:55:52 <Sabit> makes me miss playing on my gameboy and nes lol
20:56:29 <joepie91> er
20:56:31 <joepie91> I also have SimGolf
20:56:31 <joepie91> hm
20:56:34 <joepie91> then I'm missing one CD
20:56:35 <joepie91> anyway
20:56:38 <Sabit> O.O
20:56:39 <joepie91> my SimCity and SimGolf discs are damaged :(
20:56:43 <Sabit> awww
20:56:49 <joepie91> so they're going to need recovery
20:56:53 <joepie91> also, SimCity is original SimCity
20:57:19 <Sabit> like 1980s release simcity?
20:58:27 <dorotea> :O
20:58:31 <dorotea> YOU HAVE SIMANT
20:58:39 <dorotea> I LOVED that game
20:58:48 * dorotea psh pshes bug spray
20:59:40 <joepie91> Sabit: yes
20:59:43 <joepie91> dorotea: just a moment
20:59:49 <Sabit> O__O
20:59:50 <Sabit> damn
20:59:52 <joepie91> dorotea: https://archive.org/details/SimAnt
20:59:54 <joepie91> you're welcome :)
21:00:20 * dorotea shump
21:00:20 <Sabit> O.O
21:00:29 <dorotea> torrent queued
21:00:59 <joepie91> dorotea: fwiw, there's also a direct HTTP download link
21:01:06 <joepie91> but that's also set as a webseed
21:01:44 <Sabit> yesterday for valentines day, i had no valentine
21:01:49 <Sabit> :D
21:02:10 <dorotea> joepie91:) I know, but torrenting encourages datalove more
21:02:28 <joepie91> :)
21:02:37 <joepie91> Sabit: nor did I
21:02:42 <dorotea> I will always choose to wait for a torrent over instant gratification of http download, even if it webseeds in
21:02:43 <joepie91> though DrWhat gave me a cuddle
21:02:48 <Sabit> will you be my valentine?
21:02:52 <Sabit> *murica yah!*
21:03:57 <joepie91> dorotea: http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xy20t/totalbiscuit_vs_fun_creators_here_we_go_again/
21:07:52 <dorotea> nice twofacing
21:08:03 <dorotea> fuck em
21:08:09 <dorotea> take the company to court, bleed them of their money
21:08:35 <dorotea> make sure they never get the chance to finish the game for how they treated the community
21:13:25 <dorotea> hmmm
21:13:56 <dorotea> I'm so sad siw is pay only now
21:14:22 <dorotea> I may have to remove it from aranjepack soon :(
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21:15:46 <monod> evening!
21:16:11 <joepie91> dorotea: siw?
21:16:13 <joepie91> hai monod
21:17:34 <monod> going to read: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/677779/how-to-shorten-the-list-of-enough-conditions-of-a-simple-theorem
21:22:14 <Sabit> totalbiscuit's been having a hell of a time lately
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21:32:45 <dorotea> joepie91:) http://www.gtopala.com/
21:32:53 <dorotea> it's an amazing sysinfo utility
21:33:05 <dorotea> pulls all registration codes and everything out of apps, etc
21:33:26 <dorotea> but they slowly went to paid-only over the last two years
21:33:30 <joepie91> :(
21:33:37 <joepie91> wow
21:33:38 <joepie91> I remember that
21:33:55 <dorotea> so I have the last free version
21:34:12 <dorotea> hmm
21:34:24 <dorotea> do I put out .net as a lib?
21:34:31 <dorotea> and if yes, 4.0 or 4.5?
21:34:31 <iceTwy> aah
21:34:35 <dorotea> (4.5 doesn't run on xp)
21:34:40 <iceTwy> I've figured out how my shizzle shall work
21:34:44 <iceTwy> with the imgur api
21:34:52 <iceTwy> much, much simpler than regex'ing the entire fucking planet
21:35:01 <iceTwy> it's simply much simpler
21:35:02 <iceTwy> such simple
21:35:53 <dorotea> case ftw?
21:36:05 <dorotea> or switch, as they sometimes call it
21:36:19 <dorotea> hmm
21:36:25 <dorotea> maybe I should just drop support for XP
21:36:28 <dorotea> mostly because fuck XP
21:37:08 <dorotea> let's see, if I drop support for XP I don't have to ship directx anymore either
21:37:20 <joepie91> "All Materials (c) Copyright Games Workshop Limited 2004 except the Source Code for the Dawn of War game (c) 2004 THQ Inc."
21:37:26 <joepie91> weirdest copyright notice I've ever seen on a CD
21:37:34 <dorotea> and vc2005
21:38:28 <dorotea> one more year and I can ignore that 32bit exists
21:38:37 <dorotea> well, actually doesn't windows 7 run out this year
21:38:56 <dorotea> psure desktop 7's aren't supported anymore this spring
21:41:51 <dorotea> oh
21:41:54 <dorotea> they pushed it back a year too
21:41:57 <dorotea> :|
21:41:59 <dorotea> January 13, 2015
21:42:08 <dorotea> extended ends January 14, 2020
21:42:26 <dorotea> I love that vista support ended already
21:46:14 <dorotea> hmm
21:46:24 <dorotea> need to find a way to get chrome
21:46:55 <dorotea> oh
21:46:59 <dorotea> well that's stupid as fuck
21:47:02 <monod> I gotta sleep
21:47:06 <monod> see you later :)
21:47:09 <dorotea> it gives me the linux options, but handed me the .exe I wanted
21:47:13 <dorotea> bye monod !
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21:47:52 <dorotea> alright
21:54:00 <joepie91> dorotea: it's psychic!
21:55:58 <dorotea> psychotic maybe
21:59:42 <dorotea> excellent
21:59:50 <dorotea> new aranjepack will be uploaded soon :>
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21:59:58 <dorotea> first time in many mooooooon
22:01:00 <dorotea> LOL
22:01:05 <dorotea> KICKSTARTER GOT SQLID
22:01:12 <dorotea> https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/important-kickstarter-security-notice
22:01:19 <dorotea> While no credit card data was accessed, some information about our customers was. Accessed information included usernames, email addresses, mailing addresses, phone numbers, and encrypted passwords.
22:01:23 * dorotea thinks they mean "hashed"
22:01:40 <dorotea> also their definition of some is different than mine
22:01:47 <dorotea> name, address, mail, phone number?
22:01:50 <dorotea> only "some"?
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22:03:23 <dorotea> haha, fuck yeah
22:03:28 <dorotea> bitstamp's already back up and running
22:03:30 <dorotea> in what, 24h?
22:03:40 <dorotea> signs of an excellently run exchange
22:05:58 <dorotea> wow, and mtgoxlast is 397 usd
22:06:09 <dorotea> bitinstantlast is 651
22:06:11 <joepie91> well that's hardly news is it
22:06:15 <joepie91> (re: kickstarter)
22:06:31 <joepie91> just a moment
22:06:36 <dorotea> how is it not news?
22:06:40 Guest40295 (Console@cryto-C738A252.im) has joined #crytocc
22:06:47 <dorotea> .welcome Guest40295
22:06:48 <botpie91> Guest40295 : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
22:06:52 <Guest40295> tnx
22:07:15 <Guest40295> is this official ipxcore network ?
22:07:25 <dorotea> nope
22:07:42 <joepie91> Guest40295: no, just one of the IRC servers is hosted there
22:07:55 <dorotea> oh, neat
22:07:56 <Guest40295> i see
22:08:05 *** Guest40295 is now known as Researcher
22:08:19 <Researcher> between i am fan of ipxcore and already have lot of services from them
22:08:28 <Researcher> so i was surprise when i search in google
22:08:39 <joepie91> Researcher; ah, you ended up on cryto.net (the site)?
22:08:39 <Researcher> i also notice in your MOTD , ISP: IPXCore
22:09:01 <joepie91> yeah, you're connected to the ipxcore leaf then
22:09:11 <joepie91> there's 3 leafs normally, but only 2 atm
22:09:12 <Researcher> i see
22:09:16 <MK_FG> Do they run on IPX? :P
22:09:21 <dorotea> :>
22:09:24 <joepie91> because I keep forgetting to put in a support ticket about the third :P
22:09:33 <Researcher> heheh
22:09:36 <Researcher> lol
22:09:40 <Researcher> can we have Damian here ?
22:09:41 <Researcher> :D
22:10:02 <joepie91> Researcher: I don't think there's -anybody- from ipxcore here, really
22:10:06 <joepie91> it's not an ipxcore channel after all :P
22:10:17 <joepie91> you'd be better off looking in #lowendbox/#vpsboard on freenode
22:10:32 ElectRo` has quit (Input/output error)
22:10:50 <Researcher> well i know about LEB and vpsboard
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22:11:01 <Researcher> anyways its a nice finding
22:11:11 <Researcher> nice to meet you all
22:11:14 * Researcher waves
22:11:19 <joepie91> hai :)
22:11:24 <MK_FG> \o
22:11:40 * dorotea waves
22:11:40 * joepie91 points dorotea at XMPP
22:12:03 <Researcher> I am really far from you guys
22:12:09 <Researcher> here 2:12 AM
22:13:00 <Researcher> I am from muscat oman
22:13:11 <joepie91> 23:13 here
22:13:29 <dorotea> ha! I've never met someone from oman
22:13:32 <dorotea> nice to meet you :D
22:13:43 <joepie91> :O
22:13:44 <joepie91> dorotea: YES
22:13:53 <joepie91> kickstarter recommends password safe things
22:13:57 <joepie91> no keepass, BUT STILL
22:13:58 <dorotea> yes!
22:14:07 <dorotea> no keepass but all their competitors
22:14:09 <dorotea> so, whatever
22:14:23 <Researcher> well I am working here in oman
22:14:35 <dorotea> not from oman?
22:14:38 <Researcher> basically i born in Saudi Arabia and I have Pakistan nationality
22:14:44 <dorotea> win :D
22:14:50 <Researcher> yup
22:14:56 <dorotea> that has a nice ring
22:15:01 <dorotea> saudi-born pakistani working in oman
22:15:03 <dorotea> :D
22:15:09 <dorotea> awesome
22:15:10 <Researcher> yeahh
22:15:25 <Researcher> because of this i qualified to DV2015
22:15:27 <Researcher> :p
22:15:37 <Researcher> tnx god my birth place is SA
22:16:11 <dorotea> :D
22:16:23 * Researcher is ircing since 2000
22:16:26 <Researcher> :D
22:18:11 * Researcher feels like a stranger here
22:18:17 <dorotea> :P
22:18:42 <Researcher> hi dorotea
22:18:45 <Researcher> :D
22:18:50 <dorotea> hello! :D
22:19:10 <Researcher> a/s/l plz
22:19:15 <Researcher> lmao
22:19:22 <dorotea> no :D
22:19:28 <Researcher> :/
22:19:33 <Researcher> then ask mine
22:19:34 <Researcher> lol
22:19:46 <dorotea> no :D
22:19:55 <dorotea> none of those things matter on the internet
22:20:05 <Researcher> oh yeah
22:20:14 <dorotea> you can be up at 2am chatting with someone at 5pm or 10am and it matters not
22:20:27 <ph0lix> .py print "☠☠☠ welcome @Researcher ☠☠☠ make sure you read the topic! [off] marks your comment as off the earth. try!"
22:20:28 <botpie91> ☠☠☠ welcome @Researcher ☠☠☠ make sure you read the topic! [off] marks your comment as off the earth. try!
22:20:38 <joepie91> garrwharbl
22:20:43 <joepie91> SCSI command failed: sense key: 0x04: Hardware Error
22:20:44 <joepie91> Raw sense data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0a 0x00 0x00
22:20:44 <Researcher> no no actually i was registering some domains on ipxcore
22:20:44 <joepie91> 0x00 0x00 0x3e 0x02 0x00 0x00
22:20:44 <joepie91> Found L-EC error at sector 195602 - ignored.
22:20:44 <joepie91> WHY
22:20:55 * joepie91 stares angrily at his Project Eden CD
22:21:21 <Researcher> awwww
22:21:23 <joepie91> ph0lix: heh, building your own .welcome? :P
22:21:24 <dorotea> hello ph0lix :D
22:21:29 <Researcher> look like a bad sector
22:21:30 <joepie91> also hai ph0lix
22:21:39 <joepie91> Researcher: well the disc has seen some water damage
22:21:41 <Researcher> hi ph0lix
22:21:49 <joepie91> so I was kind of expecting this
22:22:04 <joepie91> ("some water damage" == I had to wipe the water stains off it before imaging)
22:22:05 <Researcher> ahh
22:22:16 <joepie91> I'm amazed it actually got 2/3rd through without read errors
22:22:18 <Researcher> guys brb lemme come back with my bnc
22:22:19 <Researcher> :)
22:22:20 <joepie91> but yeah, that's one for the recovery pile I guess..
22:22:23 <joepie91> alright :P
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22:22:35 <dorotea> :)
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22:30:03 <Researcher> back
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22:30:11 <Researcher> :D
22:31:44 <Researcher> hi
22:33:56 <Researcher> :/
22:34:10 * Researcher feels soo lonely
22:34:24 <ph0lix> ☠ el zpanel detected ☠
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22:36:19 <Researcher> hehe
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22:36:31 <Researcher> well i was testing the zpanel
22:36:34 <Researcher> the interface is good
22:36:51 <Researcher> but it have lot of bugs specially postfix cannot be fixed.
22:37:31 <joepie91> Researcher : don't use zpanel!
22:37:44 <joepie91> http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2013/12/17/the-security-trainwreck-that-is-zpanel/
22:38:20 <Researcher> i see
22:40:40 <Researcher> yeah
22:40:52 <Researcher> ofcourse its still under development
22:40:59 <Researcher> but i like the interface and theme
22:41:11 <Researcher> zpanel no doubt is fast and good looking
22:41:38 <Researcher> no efficient like kloxo or other opensource panels but still it is not bad
22:44:14 <dorotea> joepie91:) https://explodie.org/aranjepack.html#donate :D
22:44:48 * dorotea fixes for new filenames
22:44:49 <Researcher> yeah i have seen that link at first eye
22:44:50 <Researcher> :p
22:45:02 <dorotea> excellent!
22:45:07 <joepie91> Researcher: I wouldn't call either zpanel or kloxo either "fast" or "efficient"...
22:45:18 <joepie91> dorotea: hmm, rendering feels "off"
22:45:27 <joepie91> http://owely.com/0YqkW8
22:46:01 <dorotea> what's off about it?
22:46:05 <dorotea> that looks right
22:46:37 <dorotea> oh you mean how the text looks like it's over to the left
22:46:41 <dorotea> it's actually not
22:46:42 <dorotea> haha
22:46:46 <ph0lix> well Researcher, try docker.io kloxo is worse a shot
22:46:57 <dorotea> if you click on about, the .active or whatever makes it line up
22:47:04 <dorotea> it just looks funny if you're not on about
22:47:07 <Researcher> i see
22:47:11 <Researcher> how about ajenti ?
22:47:15 <Researcher> or ispconfig
22:47:25 <Researcher> or i-mscp
22:47:26 <dorotea> well docker is amazing
22:47:32 <dorotea> so I'm going to assume it's better than any of those
22:47:37 <dorotea> (because it probably is)
22:47:39 <joepie91> Researcher: ajenti is fine afaik
22:47:47 <dorotea> except that docker is a container system, not a panel
22:47:52 <joepie91> ispconfig is okay but a bit clunky
22:47:58 <joepie91> no experience with i-mscp but I think it's unmaintained
22:48:10 <joepie91> (also, Kloxo is a security nightmare)
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22:50:58 <complex> hey guys
22:52:01 <ph0lix> .py print "☠☠☠ welcome @complex☠☠☠ make sure you read the topic! [off] marks your comment as off the earth. try!
22:52:02 <botpie91> SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (<string>, line 1)
22:52:10 <ph0lix> .py print "☠☠☠ welcome @complex☠☠☠ make sure you read the topic! [off] marks your comment as off the earth. try!"
22:52:11 <botpie91> ☠☠☠ welcome @complex☠☠☠ make sure you read the topic! [off] marks your comment as off the earth. try!
22:52:47 * Researcher say good bye to every one.
22:52:54 <Researcher> catch you all laters, see ya
22:53:32 <joepie91> night Researcher
22:53:33 <dorotea> lol
22:53:33 <joepie91> ohai complex
22:53:36 <dorotea> seeya
22:53:41 <dorotea> allo complex :D
22:54:17 <dorotea> excellent
22:55:12 <dorotea> I want to work for coinbase so I can fix their shitty uncompressed scripts
22:55:28 <dorotea> and make their caching work correctly
22:57:06 <dorotea> seriously, if anybody meets someone from coinbase, please direct them to me
22:57:16 <dorotea> if only so I can complain
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22:57:41 <joepie91> dorotea: they are fairly responsive on Twitter
22:57:52 <joepie91> though I did get a hand-wave about my second point re: their "hackathon"...
22:58:12 <joepie91> .tw https://twitter.com/TheBitHack/status/434436169841917952
22:58:13 <botpie91> @joepie91 thanks for the feedback! (@TheBitHack)
22:58:27 <complex> i switched my education from physics to mathematics yesterday. realized i would probably find more applications in math than physics
22:58:28 <joepie91> .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/434435712012656640
22:58:29 <botpie91> @TheBitHack Right, that's good (but should prob. be clarified as "must not have existed before hackathon start"), but other point remains. (@joepie91)
22:58:30 <joepie91> (original post)
22:58:38 <joepie91> re https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/434344112234319874
22:58:54 <joepie91> complex: you might want to talk to monod :P
22:59:02 <complex> btw i have completely lost faith in bitcoin
22:59:20 <joepie91> hm?
22:59:52 <ph0lix> .bitcoin
22:59:53 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $656.53, 1 BTC = €479.45
23:00:07 <complex> there are no good reason why cryptocurrecy goes under anyones national interests
23:00:23 <dorotea> joepie91:) I have tweeted at them once a month for months now
23:00:26 <joepie91> ?
23:00:32 <joepie91> complex: I have no idea what you are talking about :P
23:00:35 <dorotea> asking them to fix their widget
23:00:39 <joepie91> dorotea: aha, hm.
23:00:43 <dorotea> there's no minification at all
23:00:50 <dorotea> and their cache headers are small when they don't need to be
23:01:20 <dorotea> and some other changes they could make that would make their widget have only a first-time cost to load
23:01:29 <complex> i think of bitcoin as a potential currency to compete with other currencies, so other powerful currencies drops in values, which will result in a distribution of power
23:02:17 <complex> have i misunderstood something?
23:02:24 <dorotea> that's actually a really old argument
23:03:04 <dorotea> I like the new marketing
23:03:07 <joepie91> complex: it might do that, but that's not the -point- of Bitcoin
23:03:12 <dorotea> the uh
23:03:24 <dorotea> "bitcoin is a platform, and money is the first application"
23:03:42 <complex> ah, right
23:03:52 <joepie91> sigh
23:03:55 <joepie91> cat is telling me to go the fuck to sleep
23:03:57 <joepie91> lol
23:04:09 <complex> i should get a cat as well
23:04:13 <complex> makes me look cultural
23:04:16 <joepie91> so you know when to get to sleep? :D
23:04:30 <complex> or, a cat would make me look friendly
23:04:36 <complex> can i trick other people to stay with me
23:04:44 <complex> HEHEH! :D
23:05:00 <dorotea> lol
23:05:23 <joepie91> complex: I'm fairly crazy, more or less socially isolated besides IRC, always busy with crap, tend to be an asshole about things
23:05:29 <joepie91> and even I manage to get people to stay with me
23:05:32 <joepie91> even when I didn't have a cat
23:05:36 <dorotea> I love this graph http://www.righto.com/2014/02/the-bitcoin-malleability-attack-hour-by.html
23:05:45 <joepie91> a cat does not appear to be a prerequisite, nor does being nice
23:05:45 <joepie91> lol
23:05:52 <dorotea> shows how absolutely irrelevant the malleability attack was
23:06:35 <MK_FG> Surely cat at least helps to attract cat-lovers
23:06:49 <joepie91> sure
23:06:54 <dorotea> "German Chancellor Angela Merkel is proposing building up a European communications network to help improve data protection."
23:06:55 <dorotea> NO
23:06:55 <joepie91> and glasses attract glasses-lovers
23:06:57 <dorotea> NONONONONONONO
23:07:05 <joepie91> doesn't mean that glasses will inherently increase chance of somebody staying with you
23:07:05 <joepie91> :P
23:07:10 <joepie91> anyway
23:07:12 <joepie91> time to sleep!
23:07:14 <joepie91> night :P
23:07:17 <dorotea> night joepie91 !
23:07:43 <ph0lix> <3 is a beautful thingy gn@all.
23:07:52 <ph0lix> *i
23:08:10 <complex> joepie91: im sorry to hear that. i was also socially isolated to some degree, but someone stepped in i guess
23:08:46 <dorotea> I'm socially isolated because everyone wants to waste time
23:08:50 <dorotea> and I refuse to do things that waste time
23:09:06 <complex> i think i found a girl that doesnt waste time
23:09:12 <MK_FG> Everything you do or don't do wastes time!
23:09:24 <dorotea> MK_FG:) you rebel you
23:09:38 <MK_FG> *shrug*
23:10:14 <MK_FG> Saying "everyone wants to waste time" just sounds so weird
23:10:30 <complex> actually, i met her for the first time 1-to-1 today. it went kind of bad, but i guess there is potential for something more. we kind of agreed about taking a burger sometime
23:10:50 <dorotea> MK_FG:) most social things seem time-wasting to me
23:11:05 <complex> dorotea: are you a girl or a boy?
23:11:10 <complex> or should i not ask?
23:11:11 <dorotea> MK_FG:) it doesn't help that being social costs energy for me, so there's a pretty big disincentive to do much
23:11:22 <dorotea> complex:) doesn't matter
23:11:30 <MK_FG> So yeah, sure, if you care only about things you like, you have no friends ever ;)
23:11:31 <dorotea> my sex is irrelevant
23:11:43 <MK_FG> Everyone wastes your time, 'cause fuck their wants
23:11:47 <dorotea> MK_FG:) I care about people I like too, and I hang out with those people
23:11:57 <MK_FG> And fcuk them, while at it :P
23:12:04 <dorotea> MK_FG:) but those people are very few and very very far between
23:12:24 <MK_FG> Yeah, like a leech picking a ripe victim...
23:12:40 * dorotea doesn't understand
23:12:50 <complex> oh, i realized something a few days ago. when i started at university my plan was to just make friends. quantity over quality. now i realize that there are some people i have been rather nice to that are just plane fuckheads
23:13:19 <dorotea> heh
23:13:27 <complex> i prefer much more to have good friends rather than many dickheads around me
23:13:30 <dorotea> I pretty much throw out people who cost energy
23:13:34 <complex> yeah
23:13:37 <dorotea> not worth it to me
23:13:40 <complex> right
23:13:49 <dorotea> acceptable people are energy neutral, great people give me energy
23:13:57 <complex> and i guess every sane person would agree to that, there is nothing wrong about that
23:14:37 <MK_FG> Sounds like an awfully self-centric logic, for "sane" people indeed ;)
23:14:42 <complex> i like you dorotea. you are a cool person
23:14:49 <MK_FG> Like, psychopathic sane
23:14:57 <dorotea> sure
23:15:13 <dorotea> I have only learned empathy, correct
23:15:21 <dorotea> that's been well established
23:15:22 <dorotea> lol
23:15:45 <complex> MK_FG: if you are going to befriend people that makes you pissed, then gl with your life
23:16:11 <MK_FG> I think being psycho or aspie was in fashion for a while now
23:16:41 <complex> everyone is a psychopath
23:17:01 <MK_FG> Way to make language useless
23:17:13 <complex> :)
23:17:30 <dorotea> it was, yeah, but it's also a pretty big case of recognition bias
23:17:45 <complex> fact: everyone is a psychopath. solution: call everyone you hate psychopaths, loud so everyone around hears it
23:17:50 <dorotea> like what happens every time we name something to be "diagnosable"
23:18:28 <MK_FG> I'll call you all BLORK
23:19:06 <complex> i love life atm :) i get the impression that i understand how politics work to some degree. i think i could be a good politician
23:19:26 <MK_FG> Oh dear, he went insane
23:19:47 <dorotea> no, he went psychopath :D
23:19:56 <dorotea> that's a prerequisite for being a politician, I think
23:19:56 <dorotea> :D
23:20:03 <MK_FG> I'd say he went BLORK
23:20:23 <complex> being a politician is a job. there is no idealism behind it
23:20:45 <complex> your job is to make fun of the other guy you are arguing with, in a FUN way :D
23:21:03 <MK_FG> Hmm
23:21:35 <MK_FG> Sleep time too, gn blork-people
23:22:00 <complex> i remember it so good. one guy accused me for being narsissistic in school. i just laughed it off with some buddies passing by, signalling what a idiot he was ;D
23:22:33 <complex> works everytime. you dont even have to answer
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