Cryto! 3 February 2014
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09:45:57 <joepie91> added a donation footer under the posts on my blog
09:45:58 <joepie91> :D
09:46:00 <joepie91> cc dorotea
09:46:15 <joepie91> thoughts?
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10:59:18 <joepie91> fuck wordpress.com
11:01:00 <Xeross> Fuck Wordpress
11:03:18 <joepie91> .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/430295070110011392
11:03:19 <botpie91> Awesome. Extorted for €11 by @wordpressdotcom to have a 301 redirect to my new blog, or have my URLs kept hostage. Fuckers. (@joepie91)
11:06:21 <Xeross> joepie91: can't just install a plugin?
11:08:58 <lysobit> you remember that guy who was here a few months ago saying bitcoin will fail because you can't use it to buy things like gas?
11:09:01 <lysobit> .t http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wv4sw/paid_for_a_tank_of_gas_with_bitcoin/
11:09:07 <lysobit> .title
11:09:08 <botpie91> lysobit: Paid for a tank of gas with Bitcoin : Bitcoin
11:09:53 <joepie91> Xeross; it's wordpress.com
11:09:56 <joepie91> you can't install anything
11:10:06 <joepie91> basically for anything other than "making a post" you have to shell out
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11:13:20 <Xeross> Blergh
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11:23:19 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03wpcom-to-jekyll on branch 10master: '02Update readme' (https://github.com/joepie91/wpcom-to-jekyll/compare/bd4246a72e...3db03618e0)
11:24:07 <joepie91> Xeross: indeed
11:24:12 <joepie91> which is one of the reasons I wanted to move away from them
11:24:32 <Xeross> Mhm
11:24:36 <Xeross> I never hosted with em
11:24:41 <Xeross> If I hosted wordpress, self hosted.
11:25:05 <Xeross> Though that didn't end too well for you last time >.<
11:28:30 <lysobit> you can also host jekyll on github pages in case of ddos
11:33:46 <joepie91> lysobit: right, and put my shit into another silo that can arbitrarily exercise control over my shit
11:33:47 <joepie91> no thanks
11:34:02 <joepie91> there's a reason I self-host my git and only use github as a mirror
11:35:09 <lysobit> github pages isn't really any different than any other shared hosting provider. except that there's no php/scripts
11:35:50 <joepie91> lysobit: look at how many of my things are hosted at a shared hosting provider
11:36:35 <lysobit> vps is kinda shared hosting :p
11:37:16 <lysobit> but yeah, ok
11:38:03 <joepie91> lysobit: no, it's not
11:38:04 <joepie91> not even close
11:38:28 <joepie91> a VPS is far closer to a dedicated server than to shared hosting
11:38:43 <lysobit> we'd be arguing over the traditional definitions of "shared"
11:38:49 <lysobit> vs the hosting conventions
11:39:10 <joepie91> according to traditional definition any kind of hosting is shred
11:39:14 <joepie91> shared over a physical machine, shared in a rack
11:39:16 <joepie91> shared in a datacenter
11:39:17 <joepie91> etc.
11:39:32 <joepie91> you're always going to share -something-
11:39:52 <lysobit> I don't like using VPS because it's sharing a physical server. that has quite a few security implications
11:41:47 <lysobit> https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_hack.txt comes to mind
11:42:46 <joepie91> <lysobit>I don't like using VPS because it's sharing a physical server. that has quite a few security implications
11:42:46 <joepie91> uh
11:42:53 <joepie91> right
11:43:10 <lysobit> that is compared to dedicated, not "shared" btw
11:43:18 <joepie91> and there are no security implications in having a physical server racked in a remote datacenter that you cannot access or inspect, and that any arbitrary person could plug hardware into that might fuck with your memory?
11:43:32 <joepie91> dedicated servers aren't inherently more secure than a KVM or Xen HVM vps
11:43:32 <lysobit> what kind of hardware?
11:43:38 <joepie91> lysobit: anything with direct memory access
11:43:41 <joepie91> PCI, Firewire, ...
11:43:57 <joepie91> just hotplug something with DMA and you're fucked
11:44:10 <joepie91> and uh
11:44:14 <joepie91> as for that thing you linked
11:44:18 <joepie91> two possible scenarios:
11:44:33 <joepie91> 1. no real virtualization (openvz or such) which allows direct fs access, technically not a real VPS
11:44:59 <joepie91> 2. more likely (and I think this was the case), somebody was stupid enough to let the serial console be logged in (that you normally access over VNC) and thus it was easy to gain access
11:45:18 <lysobit> i don't know much about hardware, but i'm under the impression that PCI etc isn't something that has "direct memory access" but moreso an I/O mechanism
11:45:42 <lysobit> my concern is executing commands on the machine while it's booted with my OS
11:45:42 <joepie91> there are other attacks like mounting the VPS filesystem remotely (mitigated by FDE) and directly modifying RAM of the VM... but those are attacks that are also possible on physical hardware
11:45:49 <joepie91> IN PARTICULAR when it's in a facility that you do not control yourself
11:46:03 <joepie91> <lysobit>i don't know much about hardware, but i'm under the impression that PCI etc isn't something that has "direct memory access" but moreso an I/O mechanism
11:46:05 <joepie91> PCI has DMA.
11:46:13 <joepie91> <lysobit>my concern is executing commands on the machine while it's booted with my OS
11:46:17 <joepie91> you cannot do that with a real VM
11:46:23 <joepie91> unless somebody leaves the console logged in
11:47:06 <lysobit> I'm not following. You're saying with a VM you can't execute commands but with a dedi you can?
11:47:10 <lysobit> or with both you can't?
11:47:53 <joepie91> with both you can't.
11:47:58 <joepie91> with both you CAN directly modify memory
11:48:58 <joepie91> the point is that memory modification is always going to be a targeted attack; and at that point the same adversary could just as easily SE their way into the facility and plug something in with DMA support into a physical server, as they could work their way into a hypervisor node to modify the memory from there
11:49:23 <joepie91> lysobit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMA_attack
11:50:00 <joepie91> the tl;dr is "if anybody hooks up anything malicious to a DMA-supporting port, you're pretty much fucked and there's nothing you can do about it"
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14:19:53 <monod> hi guys!
14:20:06 <monod> I have an important link to share and an important statement to tell you all
14:20:24 <monod> 1) increase your capacity to resist distracting urges!!!!
14:20:35 <monod> 2) read this when you have time!
14:20:36 <monod> http://blogs.hbr.org/2012/10/if-youre-too-busy-to-meditate/
14:20:38 <monod> .title
14:20:39 <botpie91> monod: If You're Too Busy to Meditate, Read This - Peter Bregman - Harvard Business Review
14:20:41 <monod> and now byebye!
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14:27:45 <Xeross> Freenode being DDoSed
14:27:47 <Xeross> Someone is bored as F
14:31:03 <joepie91> yup
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14:59:49 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Modern Python and Modern Cython language syntaxes added', '02Merge pull request #2735 from petervaro/masterModern Python and Modern Cython language syntaxes added' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2ec16b0959...2b122d1509)
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15:25:58 <monod> baaaack.
15:26:05 <monod> taking a break, actually.
15:26:12 <monod> loggy, pointer?
15:26:12 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-03#T15-26-12
15:26:17 <monod> .title
15:26:18 <monod> :3
15:26:18 <botpie91> monod: Cryto! 3 February 2014
15:27:25 <monod> oh,really DDoSed??
15:27:32 <monod> even Distributed?
15:34:10 <monod> http://i.imgur.com/Ee3Gqws.gif
15:34:11 <monod> .title
15:34:11 <botpie91> monod: Document isn't HTML
15:34:14 <monod> oops
15:34:20 <monod> anywya, that gif is amazing lol
15:34:29 <monod> yet it takes ages to load (4.5 gif -.-)
15:34:35 <monod> (4.5 MB*)
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15:38:25 <monod> back to studying!
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15:48:42 <dorotea> yeah freenode is still nuked
15:48:47 <dorotea> someone is REALLY bored
15:49:04 <dorotea> like, so bored it's a historical precedent
15:50:33 <MK_FG> Bored? More like "is an asshole"
15:54:44 <dorotea> oh yeah
15:55:50 <dorotea> It's one of the reasons I love ddos as a political statement. You're doing the picket line to the entrance to the business, in digitalis
15:56:15 <dorotea> but freenode's not a business, and doesn't have a political alignment
15:56:19 <dorotea> so you're just being a cunt
15:57:21 <dorotea> alright, I just got a whole new cup of coffee to read this sentence
15:57:42 <dorotea> On Monday, the Chaos Computer Club (CCC) and the International League for Human Rights (ILMR), have filed a criminal complaint with the Federal Prosecutor General's office. The complaint is directed against the German federal government, the presidents of the German secret services, namely Bundesnachrichtendienst, Militärischer Abschirmdienst, Bundesamt für Verfassungschutz, and others. We accuse US, British and German secret agents, thei
15:57:43 <dorotea> r supervisors, the German Minister of the Interior as well as the German Chancelor of illegal and prohibited covert intelligence activities, of aiding and abetting of those activities, of violation of the right to privacy and obstruction of justice in office by bearing and cooperating with the electronic surveillance of German citizens by NSA and GCHQ.
15:58:33 * dorotea watches ccc drop the mic and walk
15:58:46 <MK_FG> Hmm, you can probably compress that to much more comprehensible form
15:59:31 <dorotea> I could turn it into one actual sentence yes
16:02:10 <mama> dorotea: source please?
16:02:25 <MK_FG> Sounds like something that should be best sourced on ccc.de
16:02:26 <dorotea> mama:) http://ccc.de/en/updates/2014/complaint
16:02:28 <mama> i mean link :)
16:02:31 <MK_FG> :P
16:02:40 <dorotea> yep
16:02:41 <mama> thank you dorotea :)
16:02:47 <dorotea> mama:) np:)
16:03:18 <MK_FG> I imagine a world where ccc wins and .de reverses into some digital liberty...
16:03:30 <MK_FG> ...then .eu starts splitting between .de and .uk?
16:03:57 <MK_FG> And germany itself into pro-uk west and pro-libertarian east? ;)
16:03:58 <dorotea> hmm
16:04:42 <dorotea> so if we've made a lithium ion battery that is way better than previous (2000x for linkbait headlines), does that mean we finally understand how they work?
16:05:07 <MK_FG> Didn't we understand that before?
16:05:09 <dorotea> MK_FG:) stop dragging up history, also the split in germany would be the opposite
16:05:14 <dorotea> no
16:05:20 <MK_FG> I thought it were fairly simple non-organic chemical reactions...
16:05:41 <dorotea> we've known how to produce them pretty well, but it was my understanding that we had zero idea how the physics of their electrical storage worked
16:05:57 <dorotea> I remember a prize announced for anyone who could make headway for it
16:06:09 <dorotea> this was some years ago, though
16:06:22 <MK_FG> Well, such "split" seem to be common in any country where traditional west has interests lately
16:06:49 <dorotea> yeah I know, I'm just pointing out that east germany is the one with a history of nanny states
16:06:56 <dorotea> which goes well with the uk
16:07:27 <MK_FG> Well, now they seem to be first to fight vs NSA/GCHQ surveillance, 'cause Stasi
16:07:33 <dorotea> or positive liberty versus negative liberty if you wanna deal with phil
16:07:39 <dorotea> mm
16:07:45 <dorotea> I'm glad they remember
16:07:56 <dorotea> we sure don't
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16:08:29 <MK_FG> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-ion#Electrochemistry
16:08:58 <MK_FG> Doesn't seem more difficult than other galvanic cells
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16:09:48 <dorotea> yeah, hmm
16:10:04 <dorotea> so we fuck up the regulators and that's why they catch on fire
16:10:05 <dorotea> ?
16:11:33 <dorotea> well this could be cool http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2013/11/05/tesla-considers-building-the-worlds-biggest-lithium-ion-battery-factory/
16:11:39 <MK_FG> I heard it's H + heat accumulating, which seem to be from reaction of Li stuff + H2O
16:11:47 <dorotea> elon's gonna make a giant fucking lion battery factory in the us
16:12:09 <MK_FG> No idea why there might be water inside though, maybe it's something different than H
16:12:33 <dorotea> yeah I see no hydrogen
16:12:56 <dorotea> I suppose if you broke down some of the heavier shit over time, you could end up with h
16:13:07 <dorotea> maybe that's why they "age"?
16:13:58 <MK_FG> Gotta ask my mother sometime I'll come to visit, she's a chemist ;)
16:14:36 <dorotea> :>
16:15:05 <dorotea> hmm
16:19:38 <beowulf> I was checking on the freenode status
16:19:46 <beowulf> still down
16:19:47 <beowulf> lol
16:19:56 <dorotea> lol
16:20:09 <MK_FG> It disconnects me occasionally, but seem to work
16:20:27 <MK_FG> (znc doesn't seem to have much trouble reconnecting)
16:20:27 <beowulf> you know who did it?
16:20:48 <MK_FG> (and I have just "irc.freenode.net +7000")
16:20:53 <MK_FG> Me? Nope
16:21:27 <beowulf> i was looking it up and some barret lyon guy was offering to help them but he got hit by this new group ECA?
16:22:07 <beowulf> ive never heard of em but it seems they are either taking down tons of sites or 'pretending' to take em down
16:22:32 <beowulf> just weird that a whole bunch of sites arent working and freenode was ddos too
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16:22:53 <MK_FG> I imagine someone might be mad at freenode for being kicked from some cesspit like #haskell, #python or #politics...
16:23:03 <beowulf> lol
16:23:23 <dorotea> that's usually what happens
16:23:28 <dorotea> lol
16:23:51 <dorotea> we had somebody threaten to end our company because zach didn't want to give up his nickname
16:24:04 <beowulf> lol
16:24:30 <dorotea> because it was the person's girlfriend's name, and god damnit he wanted her to have her name on freenode
16:24:31 <dorotea> lol
16:24:35 <beowulf> while i was searching about freenode they just peaked my interest
16:25:09 <dorotea> it was just silly lol. or like everyone else she could pick a neat nick
16:25:46 <MK_FG> People get attached to all sorts of silly things ;)
16:26:34 <dorotea> right? ;D
16:27:23 <MK_FG> No one squatted mk-fg nick ever, for some bizzare reason
16:27:30 <MK_FG> Despite it being the most awesomest
16:27:43 <dorotea> :>
16:27:57 <dorotea> buzzfeed is launching an investigative journalism unit
16:28:00 <dorotea> excellent!
16:28:16 <dorotea> listicles of how the war on terror screws poor people!
16:28:39 <dorotea> cute cat pictures as analogy for ukrainian protests
16:28:45 * dorotea dunno lol
16:30:20 <dorotea> oh
16:30:35 * dorotea goes to cook lunch
16:31:56 <dorotea> and CAWPHEE
16:33:12 * dorotea whispers `fueled! by satan!`
16:33:51 * beowulf drank 3/4 pot of start-up juice this morning.
16:34:17 <dorotea> that's a lot :D
16:34:26 <dorotea> I just make a french press full each morning
16:35:10 <dorotea> but my french press coffee is purposefully weak
16:35:23 <dorotea> cause the drip coffee I make is nuclear strength
16:35:25 <dorotea> also delicious
16:35:55 <dorotea> It's like a whole ounce of coffee in the drip bucket
16:36:08 <monod> you should try and drink some coffee the way that guy in the gif does with beer :D
16:36:26 <MK_FG> Yuck!
16:36:43 <MK_FG> Is it that foul that you don't want to enjoy it?
16:36:58 <monod> lulz
16:37:02 <dorotea> wat
16:37:08 <monod> just kidding a lot, me :D
16:37:11 <dorotea> not trucker coffee
16:37:12 <dorotea> lol
16:37:16 <dorotea> well, I mean it is
16:37:17 <monod> trucker?
16:37:21 <MK_FG> I mean, why'd you chug a delicious drink...
16:37:23 <dorotea> I just don't use shitty beans
16:37:31 <dorotea> I don't :O
16:38:28 <dorotea> monod:) yes, people who drive large trucks and must stay awake on the road. there are truck stops (gas stations with food and coffee and such) and the coffee tastes like shit but has enough caffeine to make you hallucinate
16:38:59 <dorotea> makes me think they use robusta beans
16:39:00 <dorotea> lol
16:39:12 <monod> anyway it was just a move to see if somebody saw that gif :D
16:39:30 <monod> I feel a little bit shattered atm
16:39:52 <monod> away!
16:40:07 <dorotea> shattered?
16:40:12 <dorotea> tired?
16:40:27 * dorotea thinks of "blasted" or similar, which means drunk
16:41:20 <MK_FG> Clearly he means cocaine
16:41:59 <dorotea> :>
16:42:28 <beowulf> lol the one on i saw on reddit where the guy downed that whole pitcher in like 2 seconds monod?
16:42:49 <MK_FG> Yeah, seem to be the one
16:43:16 <beowulf> i found that awesome...ive tried that before
16:43:45 <beowulf> drank 64oz in 1 minute exact
16:43:56 <dorotea> huh
16:44:00 <dorotea> kissinger isn't dead
16:44:02 <dorotea> that's surprising
16:44:04 <beowulf> and 2 seconds later filled the mug back up halfway :D
16:46:20 <dorotea> wat
16:46:37 <dorotea> alqaeda just dissociated itself from ISIS
16:46:40 <dorotea> :O
16:48:28 <dorotea> hahahaha
16:48:54 <dorotea> isis tried to take over al-nusra and failed, so zawahri kicked them out
16:49:03 <dorotea> lulzzzz
16:50:21 <dorotea> I need to dig into this shit again so I can remember who is funding who
16:50:32 <dorotea> cause hezbollah is iran's
16:50:42 <dorotea> but I dunno if they're dicking around in syria or not
16:56:01 <MK_FG> ISIS? Is that from Archer? :P
16:57:14 <MK_FG> Oh, now apparently znc can no longer connect to freenodes
16:57:22 <MK_FG> I blame beowulf
17:02:54 <monod> dorotea, yes, tired, mentally...
17:04:50 <beowulf> wait what?
17:05:07 <beowulf> lol
17:05:08 <beowulf> oh
17:05:16 <monod> mentally tired
17:05:18 <monod> :/
17:05:30 <beowulf> need a good slap to jumpstart the brain?
17:06:08 <monod> I would like to understand a statement that seems so wrong in my book...
17:06:34 <monod> I can't be wrong though, so I'm trying to figuring it out..
17:06:45 <monod> yet, in minutes I'll have to leave
17:14:19 <monod> I fear I have heartache
17:14:43 <monod> I kinda feel some strange things in my chest recently
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17:19:59 <dorotea> awh
17:20:03 <dorotea> monod <3<3
17:20:14 * dorotea aller vite
17:20:36 <dorotea> probably allez vite since it's technically command form, but whatevs
17:22:34 <dorotea> hmm, 45 out
17:22:42 * dorotea debates about coats
17:24:20 <dorotea> can see breath!
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17:51:46 <jwa> ping joepie91
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18:01:38 <MK_FG> dorotea, Do reptillian people also deposit "snow" (actually mind-control chemicals made to look like snow!) where you live?
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19:04:37 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Proper MAM-compatible archiving, and approximately a quantizillion bugfixes' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/0187d241e7...382e7936a9)
19:14:06 <joepie91> best commit message
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19:20:43 <joepie91> botpie91, tell monod thanks for that article about meditation, it helped
19:20:44 <botpie91> joepie91: I'll pass that on when monod is around.
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19:24:47 <joepie91> <MK_FG>No one squatted mk-fg nick ever, for some bizzare reason
19:24:52 <joepie91> the only person consistently squatting my nick
19:24:55 <joepie91> is the botserv on anonops
19:24:56 <joepie91> lol
19:25:04 <joepie91> and that's hardly a "person"
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19:59:50 <MK_FG> and that's hardly out of love for the nick, I'd guess ;)
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20:02:49 <joepie91> MK_FG: haha
20:02:50 <joepie91> nah
20:02:51 <joepie91> well
20:02:58 <joepie91> technically, at first, it was put there to prevent others from stealing my nick
20:03:04 <joepie91> after I dropped my own nick after a conflict
20:03:15 <joepie91> but nowadays it's more there as a gimmick/joke kind of thing
20:03:15 <joepie91> :P
20:04:38 <MK_FG> That sounds more benign than what I thought
20:10:20 <MK_FG> Every redesign of every site... ;)
20:13:04 <joepie91> note to self: http://blog.civiccommons.org/2011/01/be-open-from-day-one/
20:13:31 <joepie91> (just spent 10 minutes finding that URL in my Twitter retweet history, I don't want to waste that time again)
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20:19:13 <monod> hello!
20:19:14 <botpie91> monod: 19:20Z <joepie91> tell monod thanks for that article about meditation, it helped
20:19:15 <monod> loggy, pointer?
20:19:15 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-03#T20-19-15
20:19:43 <monod> botpie91, tell joepie91 oh, happy to hear that! :)
20:19:44 <botpie91> monod: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
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20:22:06 <joepie91> ohai monod
20:22:07 <botpie91> joepie91: 20:19Z <monod> tell joepie91 oh, happy to hear that! :)
20:22:23 <monod> hellouu, joepie91 :)
20:22:52 <joepie91> :)
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20:31:19 <monod> is there anything going on in the i2p network recently ?
20:35:09 <Cypher> Ohai guise. So I just make a script.app on my mac that opens google chrome automatically incognito mode :D i feel so l337 now. lol
20:37:08 <monod> oh god
20:37:35 <monod> is it like a one line command?
20:37:39 <monod> with parameters?
20:38:43 <Cypher> no i used apple script editor to create a .app launcher and then took the icon from the google chrome.app from contents and dragged it in the one i made so it has the icon n all. its pretty neat.
20:39:09 <monod> oh ok
20:39:25 <monod> very-high level programming
20:40:17 <monod> meaning, very far from lower-level computer architecture programming, you know
20:40:28 <monod> !bt
20:40:29 <Cypher> I don't use chrome much I'm more a firefox guy but i have too many mods on it it won't recognize my os/browser when i tried to update flash. as i was trying to load chrome in cogneto mode bc i have same issues in normal mode it occurred to me it would be much easier and more time consuming in future use if i was able to launch this incognito automatically and sat here about 5mins trying to get it to do as such and Volla
20:40:31 <Cypher> :)
20:40:48 <Cypher> lol yah i no just happy it worked is all.
20:41:22 <monod> oh, I see now
20:41:23 <Cypher> just be happy i didn't make a screen recording of it for you guise since i'm so enthusiastic about this :D
20:41:37 <monod> oh :D
20:41:47 <monod> allow me to correct one thing though
20:41:59 <Cypher> proceed :)
20:41:59 <monod> 'Volla' is 'et voila'
20:42:32 <Cypher> yeah i figured i hit a typo in there typing fast somewhat cheers!
20:42:49 <monod> welcome!
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20:47:10 <monod^> pc crashed :S
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20:48:44 <Cypher> oh lord w/b
20:49:10 <monod^> lord :D
20:49:15 <Cypher> I've noticed something strange with YouTube today.
20:49:46 <Cypher> well maybe its not YouTube. might be waste book.
20:49:48 <Cypher> anywho.
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20:50:02 <Cypher> Usually when u click on a youtube video on waste book it plays in the newsfeed and such.
20:50:11 <Cypher> but today I've noticed it opens it in a new tab.
20:50:48 <Cypher> also i read some crap on torrent freak that YouTube is getting shit for people ripping mp3 from TY using the yt-mp3 flv sites.
20:51:01 <Cypher> wondering if they are doing improvements to crack down on that ish.
20:51:14 <Cypher> like disabling embedding off sites idk.
20:51:28 <Cypher> just seems odd to me it won't play the vid on waste book and takes me to the main site now to play.
20:54:35 <monod2> uhm
20:54:41 <monod2> I don't think I've ever seen the waste book thing
20:54:54 <monod2> (especially if it's a feature for registered users)
20:55:12 <Cypher> Facebook i mean.
20:55:21 <MK_FG> Meh, it's easy enough to rip flv to mp3 from main site anyway, can't imagine why they'd break embedding just because of that
20:56:07 <Cypher> i hear ya was just something that i both noticed today online. odd to me.
20:58:07 <MK_FG> I think youtube center userjs has some settings for embedding, maybe has one to force it to play on page?
20:59:09 <joepie91> new blog post! http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/02/03/why-affiliate-marketing-is-evil/
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21:01:20 <Cypher> yep usually it would play in a player offsite but it redirected me to main site so I recon so.
21:01:37 <joepie91> loggy, pointer
21:01:37 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-03#T21-01-37
21:01:47 <joepie91> worthless fucking ISP
21:01:57 <monod> lulz
21:02:08 <Cypher> I agree joepie91 Affiliate's are the devil.
21:02:13 <MK_FG> joepie91, It's also good because shows you clearly who in your social net is a scumbag for sale :P
21:02:40 <joepie91> MK_FG: too many are, sadly
21:02:56 <joepie91> in most peoples social nets I mean
21:03:38 <MK_FG> I'd say "not mine", but not sure if having no friends is something to be that proud of ;)
21:03:53 <monod> MK_FG, but that still doesn't give a phone :D
21:04:00 <monod> oh lol MK, no friends at all?
21:04:20 <monod> I lol'd for the statement
21:04:48 <monod> I nearly never laugh at other people
21:05:06 <MK_FG> It's a hard question, because "friend" can mean such different things in contexts
21:05:15 <Cypher> you blog source is awesome joepie91 kudos again :)
21:05:44 <MK_FG> But I meant something like "small social net" in general
21:05:47 <Cypher> should of ditched wordpress years ago lol
21:06:07 <joepie91> brb murder my ISP
21:06:21 <monod> MK_FG, ok, anyway, I never let a "no friend" statement go before my eyes without noticing it
21:06:24 <Cypher> tyt
21:06:44 <monod> joepie91, lol
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21:27:07 <monod> joepie91, I think 'evil' is a big word for that article, maybe 'misleading' or something that let you sense the feeling of deception may be better?
21:27:45 <joepie91> monod: deception is evil
21:28:18 <monod> haha ok
21:28:25 <monod> (yes it is)
21:29:10 <joepie91> monod: honestly, I'd rather just be direct about what it is, instead of using nice words
21:29:13 <joepie91> to make it less offensive
21:29:19 <joepie91> affiliate marketing is evil, that's the reality of it
21:29:22 <joepie91> so I'll just call it evil
21:30:28 <monod> indeed, I thought it was too much direct :D but that was the purpose I see
21:32:40 <monod> loggy, pointer
21:32:40 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-02-03#T21-32-40
21:32:43 <monod> thanks loggy
21:46:32 <joepie91> time to sleep
21:46:33 <joepie91> night all
21:47:01 <monod> night joepie91 !
21:47:17 <monod> I see that you're trying to wake up around 6 am then :P
21:47:20 <monod> 6-7
21:56:16 <monod> gotttttttttttttttta go!
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22:16:10 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update i.jsonAdded the `Inline Python` package.', '02Merge pull request #2645 from apiad/masterAdded the `Inline Python` package.' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2b122d1509...8c966eb25f)
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