Cryto! 31 January 2014
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00:27:28 <dorotea> wtb food
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01:42:32 <kilo> meow
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02:46:55 <AnonyOps> hello
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02:54:49 <dorotea> https://soundcloud.com/ytcracker/ytcracker-droppin-hertz-on-em
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03:35:11 <MK_FG> nerdcore :P
03:37:34 <dorotea> absolutely!
03:37:44 <dorotea> int0x80's a cool dude, haven't seen yt yet
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03:52:40 <dorotea> face carnival is a funny name :D
03:53:40 <gesichtskirmes> hah, thanks
03:55:50 <dorotea> :D
03:56:11 <dorotea> and then google tried to tell me kirmes is already english
03:56:15 <dorotea> and I'm like watno
03:56:27 <dorotea> :3
03:56:55 <dorotea> https://soundcloud.com/cust/tricky-tricky-cust-rmx
03:57:36 <gesichtskirmes> jesus, it's way too early for music like that
03:58:56 <dorotea> too early?
03:58:57 <dorotea> :O
03:59:29 <dorotea> this is my alarm music :O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBSr5EN7O3E
04:00:14 <gesichtskirmes> damn
04:00:48 <dorotea> this will be my house alarm if ever I have one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltLOrgnfW9w
04:00:55 <dorotea> (you need not listen to more than 30s)
04:01:05 <gesichtskirmes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzDO7nl2cMI thats my alarm \o/
04:01:32 <dorotea> lol
04:01:36 <dorotea> je ne regrette rien
04:01:37 <dorotea> lulz
04:02:57 <gesichtskirmes> :>
04:03:46 <dorotea> this can only be amazing: santeria + dat wobble
04:03:47 <dorotea> https://soundcloud.com/jpodtbc/sublime-santeria-jpod-rmx
04:03:58 * dorotea wubs dat wub
04:04:15 * dorotea plays random musics
04:05:05 <dorotea> AW AW AW
04:05:07 <gesichtskirmes> https://soundcloud.com/drunkenmasters/casper-jambalaya-drunken \o/
04:05:12 * dorotea warbles along
04:05:36 <dorotea> man, I could play this shit end to end and have a rave
04:05:52 <dorotea> the wobble's so slow you can count the oscillations
04:05:52 <dorotea> :D
04:06:10 <dorotea> lol trap
04:06:22 <dorotea> needs moar bass
04:06:25 <gesichtskirmes> nah
04:06:26 <gesichtskirmes> ;)
04:06:32 <dorotea> though I agree with twerk tag
04:06:35 * dorotea twerks
04:06:49 <dorotea> yeah, dis has no bass
04:06:50 <dorotea> lol
04:07:33 <gesichtskirmes> twerk it!
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04:08:14 <MK_FG> Wat teh hell is wrong wit u peeple
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04:09:58 <dorotea> everything
04:09:59 <dorotea> :D
04:10:09 <dorotea> you're the one in russia, don't look at me
04:10:10 <dorotea> lol
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04:10:34 <dorotea> I mean our president is satan or something, but jeez
04:10:37 <dorotea> he's got nothing on putin
04:10:41 <dorotea> :3
04:12:23 <gesichtskirmes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c70S9bnYQOY&proxmate=us \o/
04:12:26 <dorotea> NOM NOM NOM https://soundcloud.com/love-and-light/load-by-david-starfire-love
04:12:47 <dorotea> nigga dats a commercial
04:12:53 <gesichtskirmes> I'm so excited for the world cup :>
04:13:00 <gesichtskirmes> you're a commercial
04:13:18 <MK_FG> You call Obama satan? You must be racist!
04:13:38 <dorotea> bah
04:13:42 <dorotea> this is like
04:13:48 <dorotea> spanish country music
04:14:33 <gesichtskirmes> get out
04:14:35 <dorotea> more appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2EwTKRmsU
04:15:36 <dorotea> and, for you MK_FG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8uMXyxvbKA
04:16:11 <dorotea> excellent dance song, to boot
04:16:19 <MK_FG> yt considers my ISP german, so refuses to show it to me ;)
04:16:27 <gesichtskirmes> hahaha
04:16:43 <dorotea> excellent
04:16:56 <dorotea> my plan is working
04:18:39 <gesichtskirmes> mmmmh, coffee
04:18:49 <dorotea> YES
04:18:56 <dorotea> YOU ARE FUELED BY SATAN
04:18:57 <dorotea> :d
04:18:59 <dorotea> ;d
04:19:00 <dorotea> :D
04:19:02 <dorotea> *
04:19:04 <dorotea> :D
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04:19:21 <dorotea> oh the delicious https://soundcloud.com/fidelium/hinode-fidelium-remix
04:19:31 <dorotea> ahh
04:19:36 <dorotea> this song still makes my spine tingle
04:19:38 <MK_FG> Again he's implying that satan is brown!
04:19:47 <gesichtskirmes> hell yeah I am
04:20:05 <dorotea> where it drops really low
04:20:09 <dorotea> you can count the oscillations
04:20:11 <dorotea> straight up
04:20:13 <dorotea> it's great
04:20:18 <dorotea> FLAC > *
04:20:23 <dorotea> well, except maybe lineout
04:20:26 <dorotea> :3
04:20:27 <gesichtskirmes> whatever, amigo
04:20:42 <dorotea> I am no gringo
04:21:32 <dorotea> hmm
04:21:34 <dorotea> MORE RANDOM MUSIC
04:21:39 <gesichtskirmes> yeah, you're american
04:21:42 <gesichtskirmes> that's even worse, duh
04:22:17 <dorotea> :3
04:22:31 <dorotea> It's cool, we just fuck everybody and steal all their resources
04:22:38 <dorotea> #winning
04:23:02 <dorotea> NP: [Dual Core - All The Things] [All The Things] [891kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:23:11 <dorotea> hmm
04:23:18 <dorotea> MAYBE AFRICA DESERVES A VISIT
04:23:24 <dorotea> NP: [Tinariwen - Oualahila ar Tesninam] [Amassakoul] [786kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:23:32 <dorotea> do you speak tamasheq?
04:23:33 <dorotea> I don't :D
04:23:51 <dorotea> I hate that they transliterated the title wrong
04:24:09 <dorotea> D'uahila ar Tesninam :/
04:24:45 <dorotea> oh, wait
04:24:46 <dorotea> no
04:24:51 <dorotea> other way, cause I fixed it already
04:24:53 <dorotea> HAHAHAHA
04:25:02 <dorotea> EXCELLENCE
04:26:34 <dorotea> gesichtskirmes:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ui0TiehuxU
04:27:03 <gesichtskirmes> hey, this actually sounds good
04:27:12 <dorotea> :>
04:27:16 <gesichtskirmes> there's still hope for you, dorotea!
04:27:21 <dorotea> :P
04:27:37 <dorotea> I have 200gb of music across 8k songs... there's no lack of variety
04:27:37 <dorotea> :P
04:28:28 <gesichtskirmes> fucking hoarder :>
04:28:54 <dorotea> all day erry day
04:29:03 <dorotea> and this is smooth like silk https://soundcloud.com/autografmusic/marvin
04:29:17 <dorotea> *almost* makes me want to consider r&b
04:30:40 <gesichtskirmes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0G1Ucw5HDg :D
04:31:07 <dorotea> fuck your recording
04:31:08 <dorotea> NP: [The Eagles - Hotel California] [Hotel California] [814kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:31:17 <dorotea> :D
04:31:42 <dorotea> I'm all "bitch I have that song, LOL"
04:32:04 <dorotea> hmm
04:32:15 <gesichtskirmes> I've missed being called bitch!
04:32:45 <dorotea> you can be my bitch when I'm drunk if you like n.n
04:33:02 * dorotea qualify ALL THE THINGS
04:33:34 <gesichtskirmes> only when you're drunk? awwwh
04:33:44 <dorotea> hmm
04:33:52 <dorotea> I wonder if there's a flac of this cd
04:33:55 <dorotea> silly v0
04:34:33 <dorotea> nope, of course nt
04:34:36 <dorotea> or I'd have it already
04:34:38 <dorotea> :D
04:34:42 <gesichtskirmes> obviously
04:34:47 <dorotea> NP: [Wszystkie Wschody Słońca - Telewizor] [Japoński Reżyser] [208kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
04:34:51 <dorotea> POLISH RAP
04:34:54 <dorotea> DUB RAP, EVEN
04:34:55 <dorotea> YES
04:34:58 <dorotea> BOW BEFORE IT
04:35:11 <dorotea> someday I will speak polish and sing along
04:35:17 <dorotea> or I'll just get the lyrics
04:35:18 <dorotea> lol
04:35:27 <gesichtskirmes> polish if awesome
04:35:33 <gesichtskirmes> and polish food is even better
04:35:44 <dorotea> :>
04:36:02 <dorotea> what year am I in
04:36:17 <dorotea> 26k mails and I'm only in 2009
04:36:18 <dorotea> HAHAHA
04:36:23 <dorotea> this... MIGHT finish by morning
04:37:05 <dorotea> also, this music is sexy, just so you know: https://soundcloud.com/la-belle-musique/le-belle-mixtape-summer
04:37:16 <dorotea> the tags tell me differently lol
04:37:25 <dorotea> apparently it's sad music
04:37:56 <gesichtskirmes> I like it
04:38:07 <dorotea> It actually gets better too
04:38:21 <dorotea> not like the mixes where they start with the best songs and go down from there
04:38:24 <dorotea> good mix
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04:41:12 <dorotea> YES
04:41:19 <dorotea> 18536 new messages
04:41:26 <dorotea> ALL READ
04:41:36 <gesichtskirmes> you go, girl
04:41:37 <dorotea> hmm
04:41:44 <dorotea> are there any good movies anymore
04:41:51 <crytoweb665> hey everybody
04:41:55 <dorotea> yes hello
04:41:58 <dorotea> .welcome crytoweb665
04:41:58 <botpie91> crytoweb665 : welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
04:42:29 <dorotea> hmmhmm
04:42:36 <crytoweb665> nice
04:42:37 <dorotea> OH
04:42:40 <dorotea> I FORGOT INCEPTION
04:42:45 * dorotea puts in archive folder
04:42:49 <gesichtskirmes> how can you forget inception?!
04:43:01 <dorotea> because I don't watch movies :o
04:43:05 <gesichtskirmes> well, neither do I
04:43:11 <gesichtskirmes> but the ost is awesome
04:43:19 <dorotea> nevermind, got it already
04:43:26 <gesichtskirmes> books are where it's at,
04:43:27 <dorotea> there were two I watched last year that were okay
04:43:31 <dorotea> but I can't remember what the other was
04:43:35 <dorotea> one was cloud atlas
04:43:44 <dorotea> aka butterfly effect done correctly
04:44:25 <dorotea> and "The Family" wasn't bad, but I wouldn't watch it over
04:44:55 <dorotea> cowboys and aliens will continue to be amazing
04:45:12 <dorotea> (not really, but any movie with that main guy will be watched)
04:45:24 <gesichtskirmes> lulz
04:45:38 <MK_FG> There were many interesting movies last year
04:45:48 <MK_FG> "that main guy"?
04:45:52 <MK_FG> Craig?
04:46:01 <dorotea> maybe?
04:46:06 * dorotea dunno his name
04:46:06 <dorotea> lol
04:46:19 <MK_FG> Check out... mm... whatsitsname
04:46:26 <MK_FG> Layer Cake!
04:46:30 <crytoweb665> hey, guys, if hoster says it offers anonymous and offshore servers, it means it is 100% feds?
04:46:32 <MK_FG> Movie, oldish
04:46:34 <dorotea> I have layer cake
04:46:53 <dorotea> it could be o.o it could also... not be
04:47:26 <dorotea> hmm
04:47:29 <dorotea> and uh
04:47:32 <MK_FG> It's awesum
04:47:32 <dorotea> the one with tom cruise
04:47:34 <dorotea> it wasn't bad
04:47:40 <MK_FG> Oblivion?
04:47:45 <gesichtskirmes> craig is nice to look at
04:47:48 <dorotea> probably
04:47:52 <dorotea> jack reacher was better tho
04:48:08 <dorotea> but uh
04:48:17 <dorotea> whatever the one he did on the birg khalifa
04:48:21 <dorotea> I was pissed
04:48:25 <dorotea> that could have been such a good scene
04:48:55 <dorotea> and any movie with jason bourne in it will get watched too
04:49:13 <dorotea> because kekeke he keeps making movies with that character
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04:49:16 <MK_FG> Matt Daemon :P
04:49:22 <dorotea> damon
04:49:23 <dorotea> lol
04:49:32 <MK_FG> It's better my way
04:49:39 <dorotea> but the character is a recurring theme, even outside that series
04:49:44 <MK_FG> Yeah
04:49:58 <dorotea> elysium
04:49:59 <MK_FG> Was same badass in Elysium
04:50:01 <dorotea> that one was good
04:50:11 <dorotea> and I finally fucking saw good will hunting
04:50:21 <dorotea> such an excellent movie
04:50:46 <dorotea> if only for this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw
04:53:04 <MK_FG> You can extend same reasoning with "and what if that rebel army was moving to commit genocide?"
04:53:58 <dorotea> then it becomes a question of "do we intervene"
04:54:01 <dorotea> which is a different question
04:54:26 <dorotea> I don't know why we don't, to be honest
04:54:39 <dorotea> we get to freely wrap the whole thing in liberty and freedom and almost kinda mean it
04:55:02 <dorotea> we even get a few fuckups free
04:55:12 <dorotea> "we were stopping a genocide, our bad"
04:56:42 <MK_FG> Except intervention usually has very different goals
04:57:21 <MK_FG> And whatever cooked-up ad-hoc reason like "hey, we prevented war (that we just funded mercenaries to instigate)" usually is bullshit ;)
04:57:41 <MK_FG> With real one being something like "that pipeline undercuts our profitz!"
04:57:59 <dorotea> yeah but like we could have intervened in darfur and been heroes
04:58:16 <dorotea> we lose a few UN people and everybody goes "all of my NOPE"
05:05:07 <MK_FG> "If mass production and mass markets are falling apart" <-- wat?
05:05:36 <MK_FG> Internets are weird
05:06:19 <MK_FG> I'm trying to read http://sethgodin.typepad.com/stop_stealing_dreams/2012/02/stop-stealing-dreams-the-entire-manifesto-on-the-web.html
05:06:37 <MK_FG> Can't seem to get past few paragraphs without getting "wat" thing
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05:30:20 <dorotea> I swear I watched elysium, but this doesn't seem familiar at all
05:30:22 <dorotea> :/
05:36:30 <gesichtskirmes> I gotta face the transgender idiot today, ugh
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06:39:51 <dorotea> wow
06:39:57 <dorotea> that was absolutely fantastic
06:40:24 <dorotea> everything from dual-use technologies (that can be turned on their creators) to the invisibility of noncitizens
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09:31:41 <anonnews317> hi
09:34:26 <joepie91> "Feel free to read and share. But don't edit or charge for it."
09:34:29 <joepie91> disappointing
09:34:31 <joepie91> .welcome anonnews317
09:34:32 <botpie91> anonnews317: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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09:37:17 <MK_FG> It's far-far from the only "wat" there ;)
09:40:20 <joepie91> MK_FG: perhaps, but it's the first-line "wat"
09:40:23 <joepie91> and it's far too large for me to read now
09:40:24 <joepie91> lol
09:40:30 <joepie91> I have other stuff to do
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09:42:58 <ihackforyou> hi
09:43:06 <joepie91> .welcome ihackforyou
09:43:07 <botpie91> ihackforyou: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
09:44:16 <ihackforyou> whats the topic?
09:44:28 <joepie91> uhm, ask your IRC client?
09:44:44 <joepie91> web IRC...
09:44:49 <joepie91> ihackforyou: top of the page
09:45:09 <ihackforyou> oh thanks
09:46:47 <ihackforyou> are there any interesting ops to do?
09:46:56 <joepie91> ...................
09:46:56 <MK_FG> :P
09:47:05 <joepie91> ihackforyou: I just told you where the goddamn topic is.
09:47:08 <joepie91> READ IT.
09:47:18 <joepie91> and don't say "I did"
09:47:25 <joepie91> because if you did, you wouldn't have asked the question you just did
09:48:55 <ihackforyou> aaron swartz?
09:49:06 <joepie91> ..
09:49:11 <ihackforyou> haha
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09:50:13 <joepie91> ihackforyou: http://owely.com/61jsvf8
09:51:29 <ihackforyou> this is an anon irc but no anons allowed?
09:51:44 <ihackforyou> and no cracking?!
09:52:19 <joepie91> ...
09:52:28 <joepie91> ihackforyou: what exactly makes you think that "this is an anon irc"
09:52:35 <joepie91> quite literally every single place says it isn't
09:52:38 <joepie91> the channel topic
09:52:39 <joepie91> the network MOTD
09:52:42 <joepie91> the website
09:53:08 <joepie91> is freenode an anon irc network because it used to host the operation payback channel? no
09:54:22 <ihackforyou> right sorry for that
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10:28:52 <Xeross> Lolfail
10:43:31 <joepie91> .startgh
10:43:32 <botpie91> Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny, musalbas.
10:44:32 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Feathur on branch 10Testing: '02Set modes correctly by default in the repository', '02Merge branch 'Testing' of github.com:BlueVM/Feathur into Testing' (https://github.com/BlueVM/Feathur/compare/fa80e1c2ca...d9b19f9064)
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10:54:43 <monod> idling for the win
10:55:36 <joepie91> wb monod
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12:35:56 <monod> thanks joepie91
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13:14:10 <monod> hope it's lunch time *_* my stomach aches
13:14:14 <monod> *afk*
13:30:18 <joepie91> have good noms, monod :P
13:32:04 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 2 commit(s) to 03Feathur on branch 10Testing: '02Allow external MySQL access when running the master in Vagrant', '02Properly install screen dependency in Debian master installer' (https://github.com/BlueVM/Feathur/compare/d9b19f9064...d9cff59abd)
14:04:33 <monod> im baaaaaaaack, thanks joe :D
14:04:52 <monod> so "teen" that lower case i
14:04:55 <monod> anyway
14:05:04 <monod> I think I'm going to study now *_*
14:05:07 <monod> maths I come!
14:05:25 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added OmniDocs plugin', '02Added Non Text Files plugin', '02Merge pull request #2721 from bordaigorl/masterAdding Omni Docs and Non Text Files plugins' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/cb25c2a457...92bbecc772)
14:05:56 <monod> not before having created a new image. U_U
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15:14:30 <dorotea> lololol "we love you but gtfo"
15:16:15 <dorotea> dude :O jamendo got funding? they're not dead!
15:16:24 <dorotea> and they have a windows store app :P
15:16:27 <dorotea> :O *
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15:29:58 <joepie91> http://www.zimbitcoins.com/
15:30:07 <joepie91> dorotea: meh
15:30:24 <joepie91> "got funding" == beginning of the end
15:30:32 <joepie91> also, dorotea, "we love you but gtfo" re: what?
15:35:21 <dorotea> the kid coming in asking about anon
15:36:33 <dorotea> hmm
15:39:35 <dorotea> I should probably grab some food, since I don't have any
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15:42:00 <dorotea> :3
15:42:40 <joepie91> oh lol
15:43:27 <dorotea> I haven't had coffee or food yet so I'm sitting here slowly trying to critique feminism instead of like something productive
15:43:33 <dorotea> (lol)
15:45:26 <monod> <joepie91> "got funding" == beginning of the end
15:45:27 <monod> ^ lol
15:46:05 <dorotea> got funding > dead
15:46:44 <monod> guys
15:46:44 <dorotea> there unfortunately isn't a place for social good programs inside our neoliberal economics
15:46:45 <dorotea> :|
15:47:00 <monod> I am sorry to break in, but
15:47:09 <monod> i've got a semi-date *_*
15:47:11 <monod> also, *_*_*
15:47:13 <dorotea> :D
15:47:48 <joepie91> dorotea: no, because what typically happens when an originally ideological project gets (VC) funding, is that it keeps on existing as a ghost of its former self, but not providing what it was originally meant to provide
15:47:57 <monod> I have to calm down, otherwise I will not entirely be myself, but an overly-excited version of it :D
15:47:58 <joepie91> and the fact that it still exists keeps others from picking up the slack
15:48:03 <joepie91> because "there's already $site"
15:48:19 <joepie91> even if $site doesn't actually fulfill its original purpose anymore
15:48:25 <joepie91> monod: gratz :P
15:48:45 <dorotea> is jamendo up on IA?
15:49:06 * dorotea is really only concerned about losing all the audio
15:50:14 <monod> joepie91, thanks :)))
15:50:55 <monod> and now that I've made my new image, I can go finally go studying a bit for today
15:51:06 <monod> "maths, sorry for having you waiting me!" lal
15:53:25 <joepie91> dorotea: yes, but not FLAC versions
15:53:35 <joepie91> and I'm not sure if the dumps on IA are up to date
15:54:34 <dorotea> :/
15:54:46 <dorotea> the flacs are the only ones worth having :/
15:55:05 <dorotea> derive all other formats from them
15:57:25 <joepie91> dorotea: they don't publish the FLACs, officially
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16:29:49 <gesichtskirmes> dating is exhausting
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16:54:02 <joepie91> 0ad AI is waaaaaay too offensive
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17:27:52 <monod> gesichtskirmes, in which way?
17:29:52 <gesichtskirmes> there's all the preparation, you have to think about what to do
17:30:01 <gesichtskirmes> what to talk about, which topics you shouldn't touch
17:30:01 <gesichtskirmes> etc
17:30:37 <monod> that's discouraged!
17:31:47 <monod> instead, I opt to be be just me, but the best version of it
17:31:56 <monod> I mean: just to see if she likes me...
17:32:11 <monod> but, to have the major probabilities of success, I have to stay good
17:32:19 <monod> and I have been good all the past days
17:32:27 <monod> I just have to be good again
17:32:31 <monod> this coming week...
17:33:05 <gesichtskirmes> the preparation is probably the worst
17:33:06 <monod> I have to reconcentrate on what made me good the past week.
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17:33:16 <gesichtskirmes> running?
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17:34:29 <monod> are your two messages intended to be one?
17:34:33 <monod> to be read as* one
17:35:17 <monod> (I don't understand "running?")
17:35:29 <gesichtskirmes> no, I just thought maybe you were into running and that's the good thing you have to do again
17:35:40 <monod> oh ok, now I see..
17:35:42 <monod> my bad.
17:35:56 <monod> and, nope, I uncovered a good portion of myself
17:36:33 <monod> discovered*
17:36:48 <monod> yet now it's like fading out...
17:36:59 <monod> I have to refresh the same formula
17:37:05 <monod> [F5] :)
17:37:24 <monod> and to do so, I think I'm going to do something now.
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17:41:42 <dorotea> haha if you have to prep for a date...
17:41:55 <dorotea> (beyond dressing what you feel to be appropriately)
17:43:25 <gesichtskirmes> well, I also have to shower, blow-dry my hair, straighten my hair, decide whether I should put on make-up because it does make me feel really good, but I'm always scared of overdoing it so..yeah
17:43:28 <gesichtskirmes> there's that
17:43:30 <gesichtskirmes> and it's just annoying
17:43:41 <gesichtskirmes> then the whole "oh, what should I wear? Does this make me look slutty?"
17:46:37 <dorotea> ahh, yeah if you're female that becomes somewhat different. Ideally I'd suggest my approach still, but that likely won't "work" for the vast majority of those who you might be out with
17:47:15 <dorotea> which is why I just don't go out with people (who don't take me as I am)
17:47:36 <gesichtskirmes> well, the last date I had was..2 years ago
17:47:47 <dorotea> that's more recent than I
17:47:55 <gesichtskirmes> and the guy farted the whole time and decided to tell me about his 4 other girlfriends
17:48:09 <gesichtskirmes> and couldn't quite understand it when I decided to leave early
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17:49:02 <dorotea> I only do that if they remind me of a previous girlfriend... but I've never broken up on bad terms, so it's always funny stories
17:50:00 <dorotea> then again, I don't "date"
17:50:01 <dorotea> heh
17:50:16 <dorotea> none of this going out to restaurants to "get to know someone better"
17:50:26 <gesichtskirmes> I should have phrased it differently, apparently
17:50:28 <dorotea> I can do that at my house or theirs (or a neutral space) much better
17:50:45 <gesichtskirmes> he dated 4 girls simultaneously
17:50:50 <gesichtskirmes> and they were his girlfriends
17:51:06 <gesichtskirmes> open relationship(s), yada yada yada
17:51:11 <dorotea> if successful, that's awesome
17:51:21 <dorotea> that's a lot of fucking communication to keep up
17:52:05 <gesichtskirmes> oh yeah
17:52:35 <gesichtskirmes> I was kinda impressed, but also confused because he just never said anything about it, and we've known each other for some time
17:52:35 <dorotea> but if you're not poly, heh
17:53:11 <dorotea> mm
17:53:56 <dorotea> I go out on dates with friends, I suppose
17:54:06 <dorotea> my best friend and I went out to the fanciest restaurant in town because I was moving away
17:54:30 <dorotea> I put on a suit and she put on her nicest dress and we spent wayyyyyyy too much money
17:54:38 <gesichtskirmes> awwwwh
17:54:41 <dorotea> It was lovely :D
17:54:44 <gesichtskirmes> that's cute
17:54:46 <gesichtskirmes> sounds like it
17:55:17 <dorotea> I have never paid that much for a meal, and I regret nothing
17:56:30 <gesichtskirmes> and that's the important thing
17:56:48 <dorotea> I know :D
17:58:29 <dorotea> If she makes it into her 30s and doesn't have a husband or something, I'm totally proposing though
17:58:42 <dorotea> I told her that, too
17:58:45 <gesichtskirmes> you should
17:59:01 <dorotea> we can fight over who should stop drinking coffee
17:59:05 * dorotea laughs
18:00:13 <dorotea> It was fun taking a social psychology class that covered what not to do in a marriage (like one to last 40 years)
18:00:21 <dorotea> and what /to/ do
18:00:30 <dorotea> so I can see who I interact with in that way
18:00:33 <dorotea> :>
18:07:02 <gesichtskirmes> everybody should be required to take one
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18:18:12 <dorotea> yeah it makes radar for cool people really easy
18:18:39 <dorotea> also NOM NOM NOM milkyway for breakfast
18:19:39 <dorotea> I don't even
18:19:48 <dorotea> I'm so glad someone is trying to study this
18:20:00 <dorotea> `Detection of Sexual Orientation (“Gaydar”) by Homosexual and Heterosexual Women` http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-013-0144-7?wt_mc=alerts.TOCjournals
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18:25:07 <gesichtskirmes> wow
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18:49:01 <AOT> yoyoyoyoyyoyo is anyone good with bitcoins i only need a simple answer
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18:54:48 <dorotea> must not be that simple if you can't ask the question
18:56:02 <gesichtskirmes> heh
18:58:48 <dorotea> `Will the World's Favorite Cryptocurrency Explode or Implode?` betteridge's law of headlines says `no`
18:58:55 <joepie91> hehe
18:59:02 <dorotea> I find this to be the best answer
18:59:03 <joepie91> also, goddamn the 0ad AI is insane
18:59:17 <dorotea> yeah?
18:59:21 <joepie91> yeah
18:59:23 <dorotea> 0ad is the opensource one?
18:59:24 <joepie91> it's set on medium
18:59:25 <joepie91> yes
18:59:28 * dorotea nods
18:59:31 <joepie91> it's set on medium and I still have 50% of the AI score
18:59:33 <dorotea> I've seen it in my applists for years
18:59:34 <joepie91> and can hardly defend my shit
18:59:42 <dorotea> hmm
18:59:43 <dorotea> :D
18:59:45 <joepie91> and I had to play a 2v2 to even make it possible to not be flattened straight away
19:00:20 <dorotea> hmm
19:00:20 <joepie91> in 1v1 it's just "LOL TROOPS BOOM HAHA UR SHIT GONE"
19:00:20 <joepie91> after 15 mins
19:00:20 <joepie91> lol
19:00:20 <dorotea> :|
19:00:20 <dorotea> my strategy would not work then
19:00:20 <joepie91> so yeah, the AI needs some work
19:00:20 <dorotea> lol
19:00:20 <joepie91> there's also still severe lag issues
19:00:27 <joepie91> some 200 units per player, 4 players
19:00:28 <joepie91> 1fps
19:00:42 <joepie91> lol
19:00:42 <dorotea> wat
19:00:42 <joepie91> eventually it bugged out
19:00:42 <joepie91> and I couldn't select anything anymore
19:00:49 <dorotea> not even age of empires 2 was that bad
19:00:49 <joepie91> and textbox focus was broken
19:00:56 <joepie91> dorotea: keep in mind that it's still labelled alpha
19:00:56 <joepie91> :P
19:00:59 <dorotea> aoe would lag out with 8p x 200 units
19:01:32 <dorotea> I thought it was my cpu at the time (p3@800mhz) but I played it later on my dualcore and it still lagged exactly the same
19:01:35 <dorotea> so, engine problem lol
19:01:50 <joepie91> isn't aoe2 still 2d
19:02:00 <joepie91> lol
19:02:03 <joepie91> was about to say
19:02:03 <dorotea> no?
19:02:12 <joepie91> you're speaking about 10(?) year old ahrdware
19:02:14 <joepie91> hardware *
19:02:16 <dorotea> yeah
19:02:21 <dorotea> we got it in 2001
19:02:28 <dorotea> our first pc heh
19:02:33 <joepie91> yup, AoE 2 is definitely 2d
19:02:34 <joepie91> isometric
19:02:38 <joepie91> but a 2d engine
19:02:41 <dorotea> oh, huh
19:02:45 <dorotea> I didn't know
19:02:46 <dorotea> haha
19:02:51 <dorotea> really fancy 2d
19:02:51 <dorotea> lol
19:02:52 <joepie91> wat
19:02:55 <joepie91> how is that not obvious lol
19:03:01 <dorotea> because it doesn't look 2d?
19:03:18 <joepie91> eh...
19:03:19 <joepie91> http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/0/2727/42570_full.jpg
19:03:21 <joepie91> yes it does?
19:03:35 <dorotea> that most certainly looks 3d to me
19:03:43 <joepie91> it very obviously looks like isometric fake 3d to me
19:03:44 <joepie91> lol
19:03:53 <dorotea> I find no significant difference between that and aoe3
19:03:55 <joepie91> ie. 2d
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19:04:17 <joepie91> wat
19:04:21 <joepie91> (hai AnonyOps!)
19:04:23 <dorotea> except aoe3 has like real lighting and particles
19:04:24 <dorotea> lol
19:04:29 <joepie91> dorotea: eh..
19:04:36 <AnonyOps> hai joepie <3
19:04:37 <joepie91> okay
19:04:38 <joepie91> again
19:04:40 <joepie91> dorotea
19:04:48 <joepie91> you see no significant difference between age of empires 2 and age of empires 3?
19:04:52 <dorotea> no.
19:04:54 <AnonyOps> Finally install nettalk on this PC
19:05:17 <dorotea> do you consider doom to be 3d?
19:05:58 <joepie91> dorotea: you see no difference between http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/0/2727/42570_full.jpg and https://lh3.ggpht.com/-1iGm_hlHdnQ/T_0eTmiU9XI/AAAAAAAAA1U/c96h0kHJWwY/s1600/Age%2Bof%2BEmpires%2B3%2BWarchiefs%2B2.jpg ?
19:06:18 <dorotea> 2d: http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Games/LAN/Images/SS-Soldat.jpg
19:06:25 <joepie91> yes..
19:06:32 <joepie91> AnonyOps: whee
19:06:42 <dorotea> no
19:06:45 <joepie91> wat
19:06:45 <dorotea> those two are not different
19:06:58 <joepie91> dorotea: even if you just had those two pictures
19:07:03 <dorotea> soldat is 2d, both of the aoe pics are 3d to me
19:07:04 <joepie91> nothing else
19:07:09 <joepie91> the obvious difference is that one is isometric and the other is in perspective
19:07:14 <joepie91> this is like, glaringly obvious
19:07:24 <AnonyOps> I hate it so much when I boot up my laptop just to check something really quick, and fucking windows updates comes up
19:07:24 <dorotea> the art is different, but not anything else
19:07:30 * AnonyOps rage mode intiated
19:07:35 <dorotea> I really don't think they're different
19:08:25 <dorotea> I thought for the first year that borderlands was cell-shaded engine
19:08:33 <dorotea> turns out they just hand-drew all the textures
19:11:41 <joepie91> dorotea: windows!
19:11:43 <joepie91> er
19:11:46 <joepie91> AnonyOps: windows! *
19:11:50 <dorotea> ^
19:11:59 <dorotea> joepie91:) freebsd 10!
19:12:00 <dorotea> :D
19:12:28 * dorotea needs to find out how well nvidia drivers work in fbsd10, then maybe a dive will be taken
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19:16:11 <dorotea> NP: [Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Wings] [Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Disc 1)] [838kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
19:16:26 <dorotea> iceTwy:) penis
19:19:07 * joepie91 stares at "authentic recipe" claim on his chinese food microwave meal
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19:19:29 <joepie91> if it were an authentic recipe, it wouldn't be sold at a supermarket here
19:19:31 <joepie91> ohai Zekka
19:19:46 <dorotea> lulz
19:19:50 <dorotea> dude
19:20:05 <dorotea> biggest openstreetmap corp just got bought for 24m$
19:20:22 <dorotea> soon: osm in cars
19:23:39 <dorotea> also, joepie91, I'm in love with dogecoin because it's being used as a fundraising platform for olympic athletes in poor countries
19:23:54 <dorotea> the help pay for plane tickets to sochi and such
19:25:13 <dorotea> HAHAHAHA
19:25:29 <dorotea> india can't fly their own flag at the games, so people are suggesting that they wave dogecoin flag
19:25:33 <dorotea> I would kill to see that
19:25:45 <dorotea> most perfect thing ever
19:26:35 <dorotea> cyberspace meet meatspace
19:27:03 <dorotea> It better have doge words on the flag and at the bottom say "we're here from the internet"
19:27:17 <dorotea> I wonder if we could do that
19:27:26 <dorotea> field the first olympic team that has no official state
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19:41:01 <complex> anyone here heard about sophia scholl?
19:41:11 <complex> i guess everyone should
19:42:09 <Xeross> You mean Sophie Scholl?
19:42:23 <Xeross> Well Sophia is her actual name I guess
19:42:28 <Xeross> But thanks to Wikipedia I have now
19:43:41 <dorotea> the one in sf?
19:43:52 * dorotea interpreted as school
19:44:15 <dorotea> NP: [Nero - Doomsday] [Welcome Reality] [1040kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.6.0
19:44:24 <complex> i think her story reminds me of the snowden-case
19:44:47 <dorotea> December the first 2808: DOOMSDAY BEWEWEWEWEWEWeweweEWEWEWEWewewewEWEWEWEWE
19:46:22 <Xeross> Can only find a Sophia Scholl from WW2
19:46:31 <complex> yup
19:47:11 <dorotea> HAHAHAHA
19:47:22 <dorotea> china's drafting another adiz
19:47:34 <dorotea> pla is pushing back against usa :D
19:47:46 <dorotea> they've been playing chicken with our destroyers too
19:47:55 <dorotea> ballsy motherfuckers
19:50:04 <complex> Putin about Snowden: He's a strange guy. He has doomed himself to a pretty difficult life.
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19:51:59 <dorotea> I agree
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19:53:33 <complex> what scholl and snowden has in common is that they are fighting issues with the government that is wrong, but it turns out to be more or less a suicide
19:55:06 <complex> putin only speaks from a political point of view. he is a psychopath
19:55:13 <dorotea> I dunno anything about scholl, but snowden's essentially fighting fascism
19:55:41 <dorotea> that's what is around right now -- worship of the state
19:56:04 <dorotea> people find their moral systems from what is legal and what isn't -- which the state defines
19:56:16 <dorotea> it's... intensely problematic
19:57:25 <dorotea> agh I have to stop reading the diplomat... it's the only site I actually get sucked in by the "related articles" shit
19:57:26 <dorotea> lol
19:57:27 <complex> yeah, few people gives a shit about idealism, so they are willing to commit such compromises
19:58:35 <dorotea> I liked arendt's banality of evil thing
19:58:47 <dorotea> she's problematic for many reasons, but that concept still holds fairly well
19:59:17 <complex> where have i heard about her
19:59:23 <complex> did she write a book on eichmann?
19:59:29 <dorotea> yeah, that's the book
19:59:33 <dorotea> eichmann in jerusalem
19:59:41 <complex> i looked in it
19:59:53 * dorotea sec, coffee refill
20:00:50 <joepie91> <dorotea>biggest openstreetmap corp just got bought for 24m$
20:00:50 <joepie91> waaaaait
20:00:51 <joepie91> what one
20:00:52 <complex> ah now i remember her view. she concluded that the evilness of eichmann was to let things happen
20:01:22 <complex> or something. and this relates very well indeed
20:01:40 <dorotea> joepie91:) skobbler
20:02:05 <complex> well, i guess i dont want to live a life where i am fucked by the state, so i guess i should just dont give a fuck about politics at all?
20:02:05 <dorotea> complex:) well, it was that careerism and not questioning the morality of the system you're working in leads to evil
20:02:18 <dorotea> joepie91:) telenav bought skobbler for 24m
20:02:40 <complex> right
20:03:16 <complex> he, never heard the term careerism before
20:03:31 <dorotea> complex:) wrong answer. If you don't like the state much: You're getting fucked either way, but if you don't participate in the conversation, you really truly have no say. You can't control the conversation, or have any autonomy in when/where/how you get fucked
20:04:35 <dorotea> there's lots of caveats there, but that's my basic argument for participation for people who do not like "the state"
20:04:37 <complex> well, snowden is fucked now. he could have the chance to live a life without any concerns. i guess i am evil to not would have done the same as he
20:05:58 <dorotea> Yeah, he could have been like every other shmuck and not said anything, but that's a problem because it means he's an immoral person. Not that I disagree (or agree) with his conception of morality, but that he would have none at all.
20:06:34 <Xeross> Snowden, Manning, Assange, etc. are all similar examples aren't they
20:06:46 <Xeross> Govt. does shit they're not supposed to, someone publicizes it, and gets buttraped in the process
20:07:00 <dorotea> I tend to lump them together. They're all ideologues, in some form or another
20:07:18 <dorotea> (that's a good thing, just to be clear)
20:08:21 <dorotea> I usually support ideologues as a matter of principle. Whether or not I agree with them, they're questioning the morality of the state. That's a fundamentally good thing, to me.
20:08:30 <complex> btw, why do the US always finds one enemy to fight?
20:08:42 <dorotea> look at our history, man
20:08:58 * dorotea laughs
20:09:03 <dorotea> It's how we do
20:09:28 <dorotea> fight to preserve slavery, steal land from other countries, invade at will
20:10:13 <complex> well. let me restate my question: why does the state in 1984 has emmanuell goldstein as their number one enemy?
20:10:30 <complex> i can only find a minor reason, which is clearly not the big picture :P
20:10:41 <joepie91> aha
20:11:53 <dorotea> doesn't matter
20:12:08 <dorotea> we enslave, assassinate, and imprison brown people daily
20:12:09 <complex> (fyi, durkheim has some statistics that shows that the suiciderate in the society drops in such times)
20:12:10 <dorotea> they are the enemy
20:12:35 <complex> yeah, but why is it necessary with an enemy?
20:12:36 <dorotea> well, from a mainstream approach
20:12:47 <dorotea> if you fancy marx, it's poor people
20:13:19 <dorotea> complex:) if your entire country's culture is built around a machine of war, of course you need an enemy
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20:13:53 <dorotea> black people, poor people, communists, brown people, poor people, terrorists
20:13:54 <dorotea> whatever
20:14:09 <dorotea> poor people twice on purpose
20:14:24 <monod> uhm
20:14:28 <dorotea> also terrorists is a synonym for brown people
20:14:29 <monod> loggy, pointer?
20:14:29 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2014-01-31#T20-14-29
20:14:53 <dorotea> If we had no enemy, who would we fear? ;)
20:15:59 <dorotea> I have a pet theory that the current state of affairs is actually a flaw in our government's structure, and not some "straying away from founding ideals"
20:16:25 <dorotea> founding fathers being rich, slave-owning, land-owning, pot farmers
20:16:38 <complex> i see. osama has a section in the goldstein-article
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20:20:00 <dorotea> heh
20:20:01 <dorotea> I've been told to read osama's shit
20:20:02 <dorotea> especially the stuff written by him right after 9/11
20:20:02 <dorotea> same for the unabomber ted whatever I can't spell his last name
20:20:02 * dorotea goes to read diplomat
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20:20:36 <dorotea> morning sabit :D
20:20:41 <complex> read kaczynski. its not that bad
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20:21:18 <dorotea> I want to read it just because it's pretty much the opposite of what I see happening
20:21:29 <dorotea> so I can be a good person and regularly challenge my views
20:21:53 <complex> but it becomes clear that as soon as you end up committing to such things like snowden, manning and he does, you will become portrayed as crazy and people stop give a shit about you
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20:22:54 <dorotea> yeah but that's just character assassination
20:22:59 <complex> or, snowden and manning has really never done anything similar to what he did, but we had a mass murderer in norway that nearly got the same destiny as kaczynski
20:23:08 <dorotea> unfortunately, that works well on people who don't critically analyze stuff
20:23:33 <dorotea> didn't the norway guy just get thrown in jail for a while
20:24:11 <complex> you should have been here. everyfuckingguy in norway was like "you think hes crazy or not?! :O:O"
20:24:22 <dorotea> lol
20:24:30 <dorotea> he's no crazier than the people in the usa
20:24:33 <complex> everything was reduced down to that
20:24:40 <dorotea> one of our biggest voting blocs is like him
20:24:45 <dorotea> christian fundamentalists :/
20:25:05 <complex> oh, dont misinterpret my use of crazy. crazy = psychotic
20:26:49 <dorotea> that word doesn't have a real definition for me
20:28:27 <complex> i dont doubt that is a "psychopath", but today being a psychopath basically means you are rational and are analyzing things, and you are well-prepared
20:28:58 <complex> politicians
20:29:08 <complex> *i dont doubt that he is
20:29:26 <dorotea> lol, I must be a psychopath then
20:29:59 <joepie91> https://vpsboard.com/topic/1022-down-to-4-vps/#entry51534
20:30:03 * joepie91 twiddles thumbs
20:30:27 <dorotea> YES
20:30:44 <dorotea> india has a nuclear capable vehicle launched missile with a 4000km range
20:30:53 <dorotea> they're catching up, FAST
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20:36:24 <dorotea> joepie91:) lulz, good list
20:40:07 <Xeross> joepie91: I wouldn't be able to afford that ._.
20:40:40 <dorotea> joepie91:) http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/ :D
20:41:23 <dorotea> this page, man
20:41:35 <dorotea> examples of native code that replaces common jquery usage
20:41:36 <Xeross> I at one point (In my early years) googled "How to do <basic javascript thing> in jQuery"
20:41:41 <Xeross> *facepalm*
20:41:47 <dorotea> :>
20:41:58 <dorotea> hey, as long as you don't still do that... :P
20:42:04 <joepie91> Xeross: there's a lot of free in that list
20:42:16 <joepie91> it doesn't cost me -that- much
20:42:23 <joepie91> rough estimate for everything would be about 100 euro a month
20:42:24 <joepie91> in hosting
20:42:27 <joepie91> for _everything_
20:42:32 <joepie91> dorotea: cool :)
20:43:39 <Xeross> joepie91: still double what I pay at Hetzner
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20:46:35 <joepie91> Xeross: then you have a very expensive server
20:46:42 <joepie91> that is not redundant in any sense other than maybe disk RAID ;)
20:47:02 <joepie91> I mean, the point of that list looking like it does, is that everything is redundant
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20:47:12 <joepie91> different geographical localities, even different facilities within those localities
20:47:15 <joepie91> different providers
20:47:37 <joepie91> LA, for example, is 2 or 3 different datacenters
20:47:42 <joepie91> multacom, quadranet, and another one I think
20:52:44 <dorotea> fucking, absolutely http://www.openssh.org/txt/release-6.5
20:52:57 <dorotea> * ssh(1), sshd(8): Add support for key exchange using elliptic-curve
20:52:58 <dorotea> Diffie Hellman in Daniel Bernstein's Curve25519. This key exchange
20:52:58 <dorotea> method is the default when both the client and server support it.
20:52:58 <dorotea> * ssh(1), sshd(8): Add support for Ed25519 as a public key type.
20:52:58 <dorotea> Ed25519 is a elliptic curve signature scheme that offers
20:52:58 <dorotea> better security than ECDSA and DSA and good performance. It may be
20:52:59 <dorotea> used for both user and host keys.
20:55:04 <joepie91> time to sleeps
20:55:06 <joepie91> night all :P
20:55:39 <dorotea> night!
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21:46:12 <iceTwy> hey, that's really cool
21:46:14 <iceTwy> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/feds-if-you-mine-or-trade-bitcoin-on-your-own-thats-totally-cool/
21:46:15 <iceTwy> .title
21:46:15 <botpie91> iceTwy: Feds: If you mine or trade Bitcoin on your own, that’s totally cool | Ars Technica
21:46:39 <dorotea> that's the new fincen recs, right
21:47:10 <dorotea> I remember they released a clarification, because the first round of recs basically said anyone who mined was a money transmitter if they ever exchanged the btc into fiat
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22:59:23 <monod> lol iceTwy
22:59:35 <monod> also, good night joepie91 ! But I'm a bit late
22:59:44 <monod> I was away, forgot to trigger the status
23:34:17 <monod> gotta go:)
23:34:39 <monod> stay well friends, I'll learn English one day, don't lose hope :)
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