Cryto! 7 January 2014

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00:11:17 <voodooKobra> heya
00:29:32 <joepie91> ohai voodooKobra
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01:19:01 <DrWhat> i cant smile wothout you
01:19:20 <DrWhat> i cant laugh and i cant sing
01:19:30 <DrWhat> im finding it hard to do anyrhing
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05:13:56 <ShadowDemon> Yo yo wassuppppp
05:23:24 <joepie91> hai ShadowDemon!
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05:43:12 <ShadowDemon> ohai joepie91 0/
05:43:14 <ShadowDemon> o/
05:44:27 <ShadowDemon> I'm going to try to make something in LWJGL.  Any suggestions?
05:56:55 <joepie91> LWJGL?
06:00:10 <ShadowDemon>
06:01:33 <joepie91> Java
06:01:42 * joepie91 throws ShadowDemon out of the window
06:07:23 <ShadowDemon> LOL
06:07:32 <ShadowDemon> True
06:07:38 <ShadowDemon> Java is pretty terrible
06:08:10 <ShadowDemon> I'm just not certain I wish to make a c++ physics program
06:08:40 <ShadowDemon> It would obviously be better, but a lot more work and not cross-platform, initially
06:08:55 <ShadowDemon> Damn Joepie, you're right.  It needs to be in C++
06:10:23 <joepie91> .title
06:10:24 <botpie91> joepie91: The first bitcoin transaction in North Korea : Bitcoin
06:13:10 <ShadowDemon> That seems useful
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07:00:44 <twitchyliquid64> ShadowDemon: write it in Go!
07:02:09 <joepie91> oh, hai twitchyliquid64 :P
07:02:16 <twitchyliquid64> hey joepie91 hows it going
07:02:23 <joepie91> going okay
07:02:40 <joepie91> currently trying to get a tidesdk build by somebody else to run on my system
07:02:48 <joepie91> and trying to get a client I wrote to run on that somebody elses system
07:02:55 <joepie91> neither is being particularly successful so far
07:02:55 <joepie91> :P
07:03:22 <twitchyliquid64> nice haha
07:03:43 <twitchyliquid64> I am tidying and shelving my shockwave (web OS and backend) project
07:03:58 <twitchyliquid64> and burning backups of all my code ever, and wikipedia to DVD
07:04:06 <twitchyliquid64> and working on a p2p network
07:04:08 <joepie91> DVDs are awful for backup storage :P
07:04:12 <twitchyliquid64> no
07:04:14 <twitchyliquid64> they are amazing
07:04:20 <twitchyliquid64> no HD failures to worry about
07:04:20 <joepie91> no, they're not
07:04:26 <joepie91> lifespan of a DVD is between 1 and 6 years, typically
07:04:33 <twitchyliquid64> WAHT
07:04:35 <twitchyliquid64> ARE YOU SERIOUS
07:04:36 <joepie91> yes
07:04:38 <joepie91> I am serious
07:04:44 <joepie91> of self-burnt DVDs, that is
07:04:49 <joepie91> I believe pressed DVDs get some 10-15 years
07:04:58 <joepie91> yes
07:05:02 <twitchyliquid64> :'(
07:05:05 <twitchyliquid64> my life is over
07:05:09 <joepie91> there is supposedly this:
07:05:12 <joepie91> but I don't really trust it
07:05:20 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: tahoe-lafs is awesome for backups :P
07:05:32 <joepie91> as are HDDs, because you can actually tell when your data is about to go away
07:05:35 <joepie91> redundant HDDs *
07:06:51 <twitchyliquid64> I just wanted a nice permanent solution :(
07:08:17 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: all materials decay, eventually
07:08:23 <joepie91> making backups is one thing
07:08:26 <joepie91> keeping them intact is another
07:09:16 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: there's a reason I store my backups in tahoe-lafs using duplicity :)
07:10:38 <twitchyliquid64> locally?
07:11:11 <twitchyliquid64> "Generally speaking, manufacturers claim life spans ranging from 30 to 100 years for DVD-R and DVD+R discs and up to 30 years for DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM."
07:12:16 <joepie91> yes
07:12:17 <joepie91> claim
07:12:21 <joepie91> is the operative word there
07:12:22 <joepie91> :P
07:12:53 <joepie91> either way, no matter what storage media you use... you will have to perform maintenance or verification of some sort over time
07:13:08 <joepie91> the ideal solution is a medium that allows for automatic maintenance
07:13:14 <joepie91> (hence, tahoe-lafs in my case)
07:13:31 <joepie91> it's _possible_ to use non-automatic media, but will require manual checking every once in a while
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07:23:05 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91: just how easy can you make installing tahoelafs?
07:23:47 <twitchyliquid64> installing and managing
07:30:42 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: very easy
07:30:54 <joepie91> pip install Twisted && pip install allmydata-tahoe && tahoe create-node
07:31:05 <joepie91> edit ~/.tahoe/tahoe.cfg, add introducer URI and size limit
07:31:06 <joepie91> tahoe start
07:31:06 <joepie91> done
07:31:57 <joepie91> assuming you have pip, of course
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07:35:07 <twitchyliquid64> c + p 'ed
07:35:40 <twitchyliquid64> and a good fronted?
07:35:42 <twitchyliquid64> *frontend
07:39:26 <joepie91> um
07:39:26 <joepie91> well
07:39:30 <joepie91> tahoe-lafs comes with a web interface
07:39:34 <joepie91> at localhost:3456
07:41:17 <joepie91> @ twitchyliquid64
07:41:18 <joepie91> :p
07:57:32 <ShadowDemon> Go and physics
07:57:41 <ShadowDemon> I'm not sure how that'd turn out, twitchyliquid64
07:58:18 <twitchyliquid64> ShadowDemon: its already widely used for physics simulations
07:58:33 <twitchyliquid64> alot of stuff on the mailing list about it
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08:12:21 <ShadowDemon> twitchyliquid64: Oh, I'll definitely look into it then.
08:12:39 <ShadowDemon> I feel like making an MMORPG of sorts
08:12:57 <ShadowDemon> Well, Maybe just an online RPG
08:13:08 <ShadowDemon> MMOs are quite resource intensive to network :P
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09:11:44 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91: are you a member of the nofap movement?
09:12:22 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: sorry, what?
09:31:04 <ShadowDemon> nofap?
09:31:16 <ShadowDemon> Why not just get a gf or bf?
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09:46:21 <joepie91> okay, so, twitchyliquid64, explain to me why I would be interested in nofap? :P
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10:49:41 <twitchyliquid64> ShadowDemon: I actually had a gf
10:49:47 <twitchyliquid64> then she dumped me
10:50:05 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91:
10:53:43 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: yes, why would I be interested in that..
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13:02:22 <twitchyliquid64> joepie91: no idea, just asking you if you had heard of it / know what it actually is
13:29:06 <ShadowDemon> twitchyliquid64: well then get another gf
13:29:12 <ShadowDemon> Women are a dime a dozen
13:30:14 <ShadowDemon> Women you truly love and can build a long lasting healthy relationship with are much less common.  I've only had 1 in the last decade...
13:30:32 <ShadowDemon> Good luck to you though bro
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13:34:17 <joepie91> twitchyliquid64: I know what it is, but it's really not relevant to me :P
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15:30:18 <joepie91> ummm
15:33:22 <joepie91> right
15:33:27 <joepie91> that was my mistake
15:33:27 <joepie91> lol
15:33:31 <joepie91> didn't update DNS
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15:54:55 <patch> So..
15:56:10 <patch> Nothing?
15:56:48 <zxcvbnm> what do you have
15:57:18 <patch> Seems like there's no activity
15:58:31 <zxcvbnm> people do things
15:58:35 <zxcvbnm> lol
15:58:36 * zxcvbnm shrugs
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16:02:28 <joepie91> what
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16:59:42 <patch> Herro?
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17:41:57 <HiveResearch> lolwtf
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18:28:33 <DrWhat> god damn mobile net
18:28:58 <DrWhat> i was still connected to irc according to my phone
18:29:14 <DrWhat> but no one had said anything since 1pm
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21:53:04 <complex> lysobit: you here?
21:53:29 <lysobit> ? if it's not urgent, i don't have time atm
21:53:39 <complex> its not urgent
21:54:08 <lysobit> busy atm
21:54:12 <lysobit> sorry
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