Cryto! 27 December 2013

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02:09:45 <iceTwy> uh, RootNerds..
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05:25:50 <Cryto380> oi
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13:21:13 <joepie91> cc MK_FG
13:21:14 <joepie91> .title
13:21:16 <botpie91> joepie91: Major Recording Labels Prepare to Sue Russia’s Facebook | TorrentFreak
13:23:53 <MK_FG> I'm quite surprised that they didn't "sue" (in russian courts, I guess?) it years ago, apparently ;)
13:30:21 <joepie91> heh
13:30:31 <joepie91> MK_FG: I don't think they will sue in Russian courts
13:30:47 <joepie91> given
13:30:48 <joepie91> "Russiaâ??s telecoms regulator has just stated that the countryâ??s Facebook equivalent vKontakte has done enough against piracy to have itself removed from the USTRâ??s Special 301 Report."
13:30:55 <MK_FG> Hmm, how would that work otherwise then?
13:31:05 <joepie91> I'd imagine that being a red flag for Sony and such
13:31:11 <joepie91> jurisdiction-wise
13:31:21 <joepie91> well, they can sue in the US
13:31:26 <joepie91> with the following consequences:
13:31:37 <joepie91> 1. attempt to enforce international cooperation treaties
13:31:41 <joepie91> (afaik some exist)
13:31:59 <joepie91> 2. use it as an argument to block access to VK in the US and possibly other places
13:32:04 <joepie91> because "see, the court said it was illegal"
13:32:16 <joepie91> or something along those lines
13:32:31 <joepie91> that's the route I expect them to take anyway
13:32:44 <MK_FG> Hm, is it possible to create a court case against foreign citizen?
13:32:45 <joepie91> MPAA and friends basically live on public (mis-)perception
13:32:53 <joepie91> even a token judgment would be valuable to them
13:32:53 <joepie91> yes
13:33:00 <MK_FG> Weird
13:34:29 <MK_FG> Oh, right, guess that's what they did with Assange in Sweden too...
13:34:56 <joepie91> MK_FG: I doubt that they will seek for actual punishment or damages
13:34:56 <MK_FG> Still weird how these things work
13:35:02 <joepie91> that seems a lost cause
13:35:04 <joepie91> because lolrussia
13:35:10 <joepie91> but as a token judgment, it'd definitely work
13:35:14 <MK_FG> Heheh
13:35:35 <joepie91> MPAA thrives on biased PR :)
13:35:54 <joepie91> MPAA and friends *
13:36:02 <MK_FG> *propaganda
13:36:23 <joepie91> hahaha wow
13:36:25 <joepie91> NFMI members are said to be preparing to sue in the St. Petersburg Court of Arbitration in an attempt to have at least six thousand pieces of music removed from vKontakte, including works from Beyonce, 50 Cent, Eminem, Jay-Z, Madonna, Skrillex, Linkin Park, Metallica and Pink Floyd.
13:36:27 <joepie91> ballsy
13:36:31 <joepie91> they are actually going to try in Russia
13:36:53 <joepie91> I wonder how far that'll get them :)
13:36:55 <MK_FG> Aha
13:37:07 <joepie91> "According to Izvestia, the legal action could take up to a couple of months or even a couple of years, depending on the determination of each side."
13:37:12 <joepie91> couple of years for 6000 tracks
13:37:22 <MK_FG> Guess they got some powers-that-be on their side this time
13:37:23 <joepie91> that seems like a REALLY inefficient takedown process
13:37:23 <joepie91> :p
13:38:04 <MK_FG> VK should really build some torrents into it ;)
13:42:01 <joepie91> hehe
13:42:21 <MK_FG> "If you look at landscape of devs who know embedded dev and webdev, you won't find many people who still want to do webdev" (30c3 openwrt talk) ;)
13:43:03 <joepie91> lol
13:43:07 <joepie91> also, MK_FG,
13:43:09 <MK_FG> That's kinda surprising - embedded seem to be so damn hard
13:43:20 <joepie91> it's not quite the source of btchat or btsync yet, but it's a start!
13:43:20 <MK_FG> Yet people still apparently prefer it to webdev
13:43:33 <joepie91> MK_FG: webdev doesn't let you toy around with hardware components!
13:43:43 <joepie91> :)
13:44:07 <joepie91> I mean, stuff like raspberry pis are popular for a reason
13:44:11 <joepie91> you can make something physical do something
13:44:13 <MK_FG> Hmm
13:44:23 <joepie91> I'd imagine that the motivations for embedded dev are similar
13:44:28 <MK_FG> I've seen some simplier bep-5 dht server in python
13:44:38 <MK_FG> Yeah, I guess
13:44:57 <MK_FG> Though less so wrt routers, but guess people who work there also work on physical things
13:46:03 <MK_FG> Also heh, it apparently indeed for bootstrap
13:46:20 <MK_FG> Doesn't have stuff to share and seek hashes
13:46:30 <MK_FG> *torrent hashes
13:47:38 <MK_FG> Though that py thing didn't do buckets and kept a lot of extra stuff in ram, but I wanted to hack it into something more durable sometime...
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14:11:33 <joepie91> hehehe:
14:13:43 <MK_FG> Comments there are awesomest
14:16:03 <joepie91> :)
14:16:37 <joepie91> MK_FG: that is an unusually long combo before the first breaker
14:16:38 <joepie91> :P
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16:20:24 <joepie91> .in 5s beep
16:20:25 <botpie91> joepie91: Okay, will remind in 5 secs
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17:41:42 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add TabsShortcuts plugin', '02Merge pull request #2541 from ejoubaud/masterAdd TabsShortcuts plugin' (
17:42:43 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Adds Delete Lines plugin.', '02Added 'sublime_text'.', '02Merge pull request #2542 from harawata/add-delete-linesAdds Delete Lines plugin.' (
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17:46:15 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add csslisible release for st3Signed-off-by: Thierry Le Moulec <>', '02Merge pull request #2544 from thierrylemoulec/masterAdd csslisible release for st3' (
17:46:20 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add SublimeLinter-scss Package', '02renamed package', '02Merge pull request #2535 from attenzione/masterAdd SublimeLinter-scss-lint Package' (
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17:51:38 <Cryto648> salve a tutti
17:52:28 <Cryto648> italiani
17:53:53 <Cryto648> in line
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17:57:28 <crytocc157> salve a tutti
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18:17:54 <crytoweb254> hi all
18:17:57 <crytoweb254> not so much users any more
18:18:03 <crytoweb254> where did everybody go?
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20:06:27 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cvm on branch 10feature/base-theme: '02First bits of new theme' (
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20:34:40 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cvm on branch 10feature/base-theme: '02Add templates for VPS list and admin node list' (
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20:42:44 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03cvm on branch 10feature/base-theme: '02What was I thinking? Fixed bug in 'add node' form when no custom keypair was provided.' (
20:57:00 <Sabit> why hello joepie91
20:58:19 <joepie91> ohais :
20:58:21 <joepie91> :o *
20:59:42 <Sabit> how are you
21:00:18 <joepie91> fairly okay
21:00:22 <joepie91> working on CVM!
21:13:24 <joepie91> Sabit:
21:13:26 <joepie91> now, time to sleeps
21:13:44 <Sabit> nice
21:13:50 <Sabit> night
21:13:55 <joepie91> night :)
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