Cryto! 21 December 2013

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00:14:32 <botpie91> DrWhat: ♪ Minecraft Parody - Wheres the Modding API? - YouTube
00:42:30 <iceTwy> onions: hey there
00:42:44 <iceTwy> onions: been busy lately with finals, haven't been around much
00:43:00 <iceTwy> also why am I reading maths I don't understand on Concentrated Entropy at 1:42AM
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01:22:07 <Philosoraptor> LoraxLive Anonymous Radio Alexa Obrien on air now
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03:09:32 <dorotea> I must sound hilarious when writing papers
03:09:44 <dorotea> "no no, we're going to DO this, and the catholic church will BE my bitch!"
03:10:19 <dorotea> re: role of catholic church in manila during ferdinand marcos rule
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03:14:33 <Charles> .bitcoin
03:14:33 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $645.00, 1 BTC = €505.00
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03:21:28 <Ozymandias> Hello all
03:22:08 <voodooKobra> hello
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03:22:17 <voodooKobra> we're only a tiny subset of "all", but hello nonetheles :)
03:22:39 <Ozymandias> The topic isn't quite clear what this page is about
03:22:44 <Ozymandias> Enlighten me
03:23:52 <voodooKobra> it's a network of programmers and misfits :)
03:23:57 <voodooKobra> I'm more of the latter
03:24:26 <Ozymandias> I'd give you all a Linux super back door
03:24:36 <Ozymandias> But the device I'm on makes it impossible
03:25:14 <voodooKobra> what's so super about it?
03:25:26 <voodooKobra> can it leap over the tallest stack offset?
03:25:47 <Ozymandias> Lulz. It's for user elevation.
03:25:57 <voodooKobra> heh
03:26:09 <Ozymandias> System god mode as a friend put it
03:26:10 <voodooKobra> can you point out where it is in the source code? :)
03:26:30 <Ozymandias> Have you read through the Linux kernal?
03:26:39 <voodooKobra> not studiously
03:26:45 <voodooKobra> like I said, I'm more of a misfit B)
03:27:05 <voodooKobra> which version btw? all of them, or just 2.6.36.x, etc?
03:27:28 <Ozymandias> All of them. Another reason I call it a super back door
03:27:31 <Ozymandias> It's great
03:27:38 <voodooKobra> nice :D
03:27:56 <voodooKobra> I'd love to see it in action, even if you can't give us a copy ;)
03:28:08 <Ozymandias> Ill send it to you when I can
03:28:12 <voodooKobra> :D
03:28:13 <voodooKobra> ty
03:28:20 <Ozymandias> Whether over the IRC or not
03:28:28 <voodooKobra>
03:28:40 * Ozymandias slaps voodooKobra around a bit with a large fishbot
03:33:11 <dorotea> crytocc is "cryto coding collective"
03:33:33 <dorotea> everyone else codes, I just derp about politics and society and shit
03:34:01 <dorotea> (and when I get drunk, how the two collide)
03:34:23 <voodooKobra> I write a lot stuff in PHP and related technologies, but I'm still far too n00b to hold a candle to some of the people I've met over the years :P
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03:35:07 <dorotea> epic, I'm writing about the role the catholic church played in ferdinand marcos's overthrow in the philippines in the 1980s :D
03:35:23 <dorotea> last day of finals week my ass
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03:36:40 <Ozymandias> I'm back
03:38:47 <Ozymandias> Vodookobra you there?
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03:55:19 <dorotea> NP: [The Beatles - Back in the U.S.S.R] [The Beatles] [3101kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6
04:03:03 <voodooKobra> g2g
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04:14:39 <dorotea> you know what's cool to find out? there were muslim chinese traders 1000 years ago
04:18:31 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
04:18:31 <loggy>
04:19:02 <joepie91> I think Ozymandias might need a reminder of the channel rules
04:20:20 <dorotea> Kinda wish I could see the entire topic at once, heh
04:20:23 <dorotea> I can never remember the wording
04:21:57 * dorotea writes paper
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04:38:54 <Ozymandias> Hey Benedetti. You need some security. Like I can see your info np. Put up a jump feed or an IP hopper or something
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04:55:12 <dorotea> Ozymandias:) mind throwing some more detail on that statement?
04:56:23 * joepie91 sighs
04:56:37 <joepie91> Ozymandias: you should probably have a read of the channel rules in the topic
04:56:51 <Ozymandias> I ment to hit query. Ended up hitting Whois. It displayed your info. In which was personal information. I'm just saying be carful. Security is a big thing
04:57:01 * joepie91 sighs again
04:57:03 <dorotea> Ozymandias:) what personal information?
04:57:22 <joepie91> Ozymandias: while you're at it, also read the network MOTD
04:57:27 <Ozymandias> Nvm. Joepie sounds like he does t like
04:57:30 <joepie91> it's in the Server tab
04:57:36 <joepie91> Ozymandias: no, I just find it silly
04:57:41 <dorotea> Ozymandias:) I presume you mean my name?
04:57:43 <Ozymandias> Thanks joe
04:57:48 <joepie91> for reasons that will become clear when you read the channel rules and network MOTD
04:58:08 <Ozymandias> Really sorry if I violated anything. It was an accident i swear.
04:58:15 <Ozymandias> It just concerned me
04:58:28 <joepie91> Ozymandias: it shouldn't
04:58:34 <joepie91> this is not an Anonymous channel
04:58:44 <joepie91> nor is this an Anonymous network
04:58:47 <joepie91> #anonnews just happens to be here
04:59:08 <joepie91> the majority of active users on this network doesn't really care all that much about what is in their WHOIS, it is not a factor
04:59:31 <joepie91> additionally, since I forgot it
04:59:32 <joepie91> .welcome Ozymandias
04:59:32 <botpie91> Ozymandias: welcome to #crytocc! Please be aware that this channel is publicly logged, and make sure to read the rules in the channel topic. You may hide messages from the public logs by prefixing them with [off].
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05:00:16 * dorotea chuckles and waits for Ozymandias to finish reading the motd
05:01:03 <dorotea> It's funny, but you say to use some sort of a proxy... to protect my name? isn't that weird :D
05:01:20 <dorotea> fixing the wrong problem lol
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05:02:44 <Ozymandias> It worries me when people put their own or someone else's personal info on the web
05:03:20 <dorotea> well, nice to meet you Ozymandias, I'm dorotea benedetti
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05:04:01 <dorotea> I didn't scare 'im off, did I?
05:04:04 <dorotea> :(
05:04:09 <dorotea> militant transparency is too militant
05:04:11 <dorotea> :3
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05:10:06 <joepie91> dorotea:
05:12:28 <dorotea> lmao
05:12:30 <dorotea> pretty much
05:12:44 <joepie91> dorotea: :)
05:14:35 <dorotea> that golden lol
05:15:40 <joepie91> jesus, it's like I'm watching cartoons, haha
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05:15:56 <dorotea> yeah
05:16:01 <dorotea> I like the reporter girl
05:16:06 <joepie91> I am also amazed at how cats seem to try and prank each other
05:16:07 <joepie91> lol
05:16:10 <dorotea> whatever, cat on shoulder, damnit cat balance so I can talk
05:16:16 <joepie91> haha
05:16:46 <joepie91> holy crap, perfect gif
05:16:47 <joepie91>
05:16:58 <joepie91> ...
05:17:10 <joepie91> GIF of a cat jumping
05:17:14 <joepie91> towards something
05:17:17 <dorotea> oh man
05:17:19 <joepie91> ... it's my cursor
05:17:20 <dorotea> I haven't laughed this hard
05:17:27 <dorotea>
05:17:31 <joepie91> my cursor happens to be in the exact place that the cat tries to jump to ._.
05:17:39 <joepie91> that really confused me for a moment
05:17:49 <joepie91> and lol
05:18:27 <joepie91> wow
05:18:31 <joepie91> this isn't a fail, just beautifully done:
05:20:23 <joepie91> oh man
05:20:24 <joepie91> perfect
05:20:24 <joepie91>
05:21:49 <dorotea> you can see that lateral torsion
05:23:11 <joepie91> dorotea: it's like straight out of a charlie chaplin type movie
05:23:13 <joepie91> also, skills:
05:24:20 <joepie91> haha:
05:24:22 <dorotea> doing. it. right.
05:25:51 <dorotea> now my stomach hurts
05:25:57 <dorotea> fine, back to writing about manila
05:27:07 <joepie91> dorotea:
05:27:56 <dorotea> lulz
05:28:01 <joepie91> also
05:28:37 <dorotea> oh, snipeyhead has a tumblr
05:28:38 <dorotea> hah
05:29:07 <joepie91> and
05:29:09 <joepie91> dorotea: yes
05:29:17 <joepie91> it's a nice collection of infosec / devop / dba rage
05:29:17 <joepie91> :)
05:29:37 <dorotea> ye
05:29:52 <dorotea> oh, I got to meet dan kaminsky at the conf I went to
05:30:07 <dorotea> shit was hilarious
05:30:07 <joepie91> o
05:30:09 <joepie91> o?
05:30:31 <dorotea> 36 pack of beer + bad movies before he and a friend showed up
05:30:46 <dorotea> (between 3 people)
05:31:05 <dorotea> motherfucker was toast and like "hey! Hey! this is MY dns! You don't fuck with that"
05:31:16 <dorotea> lmfaooo
05:31:27 <joepie91> haha what
05:31:42 <dorotea> nah it was cool though
05:31:50 <dorotea> he's like every other fucker in infosec
05:33:56 <joepie91> glorious:
05:34:07 <joepie91> dorotea: there seems to be an inherent thing with dry humor in infosec
05:34:24 <joepie91> british, almost
05:34:25 <joepie91> :p
05:34:29 <dorotea> yeah
05:34:45 <dorotea> dry humor is knowing humor
05:35:38 <dorotea> man
05:35:41 <dorotea> this is weird
05:35:44 <dorotea> my streams are mixing
05:35:58 <dorotea> white privilege meets infosec jokes
05:36:02 <dorotea> twitter just got weird
05:36:16 <joepie91> LOL:
05:36:19 <joepie91> dorotea: hehe
05:38:23 <dorotea> oh my god
05:38:27 <dorotea> it's continuing
05:38:30 <dorotea> with no feminist outrage
05:38:31 <dorotea> I LOVE IT
05:38:41 <joepie91>
05:38:47 <dorotea> dying. of. laughter.
05:39:06 <dorotea> and
05:39:13 <dorotea> (whole series)
05:39:38 <dorotea> oh god
05:41:30 <dorotea> twitter is so much more interesting than political intrigue in the 1970s in manila
05:41:37 <joepie91> dorotea:
05:42:46 <joepie91> glorious threds
05:42:47 <joepie91> threads *
05:42:48 <joepie91> :P
05:43:29 <dorotea> yeah
05:44:34 <joepie91>
05:44:36 <joepie91> "No."
05:45:13 <dorotea> that's aaaa
05:45:24 <dorotea> one of those not-actually-a-housecat-cats
05:45:29 <joepie91>
05:45:49 <dorotea> dude, such a pug
05:48:01 <joepie91> holy crap:
05:48:14 <joepie91> and, what:
05:49:35 <dorotea> yes
05:49:39 <dorotea> correct use of technique
05:49:54 <dorotea> something I should learn someday
05:50:03 <dorotea> need to find the right style though
05:50:16 <dorotea> been told ninjitsu would work with my body type
05:52:27 <joepie91> oh, btw, dorotea
05:52:33 <joepie91> did you catch on to the RSA thing
05:56:49 <dorotea> yeah
05:56:57 <dorotea> "Everybody, BSafe!"
05:59:08 <joepie91> lol
06:00:44 <dorotea> :3
06:00:54 <dorotea> I apparently failed to RT, so I can't find it
06:00:57 <dorotea> :|
06:01:03 <joepie91>
06:01:15 <joepie91> or rather
06:01:15 <joepie91>
06:01:44 <joepie91> apparently RSA has been going after Reuters with DMCAs or something
06:02:00 <dorotea> O.o
06:04:08 <dorotea> ahh, I get to use the word ouster in a sentence
06:04:10 <dorotea> EXCELLENT
06:05:49 <joepie91> dorotea: monitoring system, send e-mail when something is down for a minute, if confirmation link in email not clicked within 4 minutes (ie. 5 minutes down total), send SMS
06:05:52 <joepie91> thoughts?
06:07:27 <dorotea> that speaks to rough priorities, noc's would text first
06:08:03 <dorotea> personally I'd send the mail as documentation and nothing else, since mail isn't checked more than once per day for me
06:09:33 <dorotea> but I prefer a text that says "Hi, X has been down for Y"
06:10:00 <joepie91> dorotea: rationale; I have an email notification popup, and SMS is expensive
06:10:07 <joepie91> (this is for monitoring Cryto stuff btw :P)
06:10:13 <dorotea> I figured
06:10:27 <dorotea> ahh, yeah I don't keep mail open because no matter where it is it's a huge resource hog
06:10:39 <joepie91> the idea being that if I don't click confirmation in 5 minutes, I'm either not behind my PC or missed the notification
06:10:47 <joepie91> thus, backup plan, SMS
06:10:55 <joepie91> and meh, GMail doesn't use much
06:11:06 <dorotea> it does for me
06:11:14 <dorotea> enough that I won't keep it open
06:11:22 <joepie91> I have 3 GMails open and they don't use much :|
06:11:30 <dorotea> though I'll admit they don't leak as badly as they used to
06:11:39 <joepie91> The SkyCraft SD-1 Minisport is the first aircraft that can be bought with Bitcoin. At the current exchange rate, the SD-1 can be purchased for just under 80 BTC, with only a 2.85 BTC deposit required to hold a production slot. All Bitcoin transactions are securely processed using Bitpay through the Buy A Plane page.
06:11:56 <dorotea> fuckin sweet
06:12:06 <joepie91> oh, and dorotea, you saw the news about Overstock?
06:12:06 <dorotea> soon: zoom zoom
06:12:09 <dorotea> nahp
06:12:13 <dorotea> they take btc now?
06:12:15 <joepie91> will accept BTC :)
06:12:18 <dorotea> bitpay?
06:12:25 <joepie91> one of those processors
06:12:27 <joepie91> not sure which
06:12:28 <dorotea> ahh
06:12:35 <dorotea> bitpay's the one that is getting lots of clients
06:12:46 <dorotea> shittiest most boring corporate site on earth, but they're doing well apparently
06:13:24 <joepie91> haha
06:13:52 <dorotea> I mean really
06:13:58 <dorotea> you could use their site as a lullaby for babies
06:14:11 <dorotea> put those fuckers right to sleep
06:14:27 <dorotea> coincidentally, that's why I use coinbase
06:14:29 <dorotea> :D
06:15:03 <dorotea> hopefully someday their tools will be powerful
06:15:13 <dorotea> but they're moving at the corporate speed, not the bitcoin speed
06:15:30 <dorotea> probably just burning through all that delicious VC funding
06:16:58 <dorotea> I should go work for them over the summer or something
06:16:58 <dorotea> heh
06:20:11 <dorotea> ooh! 10pm!
06:20:22 <dorotea> suicidegirls always posts a bunch of photos at 10pm pst
06:20:23 <dorotea> lol
06:20:37 <joepie91>
06:20:51 <dorotea>
06:23:48 <joepie91> dorotea;
06:24:11 <joepie91> oh
06:24:13 <joepie91> and dorotea
06:24:19 <joepie91> I read an article on earlier
06:24:21 <joepie91> about Bitcoin
06:24:35 <joepie91> and it's the first time I've seen media do it correctly
06:24:35 <joepie91> one sec
06:25:01 <joepie91>
06:25:06 <joepie91> quote:
06:25:18 <joepie91> "As a result of manic currency speculation, its value against the dollar is highly erratic."
06:25:26 <joepie91> "value against the dollar"
06:25:28 <joepie91> not "value"
06:25:31 <joepie91> but "value against the dollar"
06:25:46 <dorotea> oh good, overstock guy is libertarian wetdreaming btc
06:26:03 <dorotea> yes, someone who understands money
06:26:04 <dorotea> good
06:26:12 <zxcvbnm__> you guys are awake again
06:26:19 <dorotea> fucking economics, HOW DOES IT WORK
06:26:20 <zxcvbnm__> i love coming in here in the morning
06:26:21 <joepie91> it just amazes me to see somebody in _media_ who does it correctly
06:26:23 <zxcvbnm__> and then late at night
06:26:25 <joepie91> and denotes "against the dollar"
06:26:27 <joepie91> heh
06:26:30 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: hai :P
06:26:34 <dorotea> yes hello
06:26:35 <joepie91> er
06:26:36 <zxcvbnm__> sup joepie91 :D
06:26:36 <dorotea> still here
06:26:37 <joepie91> zxcvbnm__
06:26:38 <zxcvbnm__> and dorotea
06:26:39 <dorotea> still avoiding my paper
06:26:40 <joepie91> why's there two of you
06:26:40 <joepie91> :o
06:26:43 <zxcvbnm__> work/home
06:26:51 <joepie91> ah :P
06:26:52 <zxcvbnm__> work me is much more professional
06:26:56 <zxcvbnm__> :P
06:27:00 <joepie91> of course, of course :)
06:27:11 <dorotea> yes bob I'll get you those tps reports
06:27:18 <zxcvbnm__> hehe
06:27:29 <zxcvbnm__> bob is one of my other nicks
06:27:30 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: y u never on XMPP!
06:27:39 <joepie91> :(
06:27:48 <dorotea> bob is your name box
06:27:59 <zxcvbnm__> oh dunno, my work XMPP went down one day and so i just didn't restart my pigeon
06:28:09 <zxcvbnm__> we been releasing a new game
06:28:12 <zxcvbnm__> you seen it ?
06:28:27 <zxcvbnm__> lol
06:28:29 <zxcvbnm__> i probably did that wrong
06:28:51 <joepie91> well, restart pidgin! :P
06:29:05 <zxcvbnm__> ya, when i gets to work
06:29:07 <zxcvbnm__> :P
06:29:13 <dorotea> huh
06:29:13 <zxcvbnm__> I don't think I even have pidgin on my home desktop..
06:29:14 <dorotea> it's a thing
06:29:25 <dorotea> I think it's time for dinner
06:29:28 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: get it!
06:29:29 <dorotea> after icecream, of course
06:29:44 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: you know you can log in from multiple places on XMPP right? :)
06:29:47 <zxcvbnm__> but, cosmetic only
06:29:51 <zxcvbnm__> lol, yes
06:30:32 <zxcvbnm__> [free] free
06:30:59 <zxcvbnm__> brb
06:32:39 <zxcvbnm__>   rift
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06:45:19 <zxcvbnm__> Playin some League now
06:45:30 <zxcvbnm__> gonna be a long week too.. girlfriend will be outta town
06:45:33 <zxcvbnm__> lots of gaming.
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06:48:03 <joepie91> back
06:51:02 <dorotea> lol
06:51:11 <dorotea> after I finish this paper, I sleep
06:51:22 <dorotea> after I finish the one tomorrow morning, SKYRIM HOOOOOOO
06:56:37 <zxcvbnm__> wouldn't want any leakage though...
06:56:40 <zxcvbnm__> oh no!!
06:56:41 <joepie91> lol
06:57:05 <zxcvbnm__> brb. we are takin care of my gf's brother's puppy.
06:57:07 <joepie91> game dev stuff:
06:57:08 <zxcvbnm__> 6 weeks
06:57:10 <joepie91> graphics programming:
06:57:10 <joepie91> game programming patterns:
06:57:10 <joepie91> commercial gamedev resources:
06:57:10 <joepie91> interesting thread:
06:57:10 <joepie91> misc game development tutorials about pretty much every aspect:
06:57:10 <joepie91> C++ / Python 3D engine:
06:57:10 <zxcvbnm__> keep it comin
06:57:20 <joepie91> and lol
06:57:37 <joepie91> Panda3D is pretty cool tbh
07:39:34 <joepie91> good read:
07:43:28 <joepie91> cc dorotea
07:43:42 <dorotea> fuck you want
07:44:04 <dorotea> you're spamming me
07:44:04 <dorotea> why
07:44:06 <dorotea> go away
07:44:08 <dorotea> nobody likes you
07:44:14 <dorotea> :3
07:44:23 * dorotea MANILA
07:44:33 <dorotea> no, really, I want this paper done
07:44:36 <dorotea> :|
07:45:01 <joepie91> :(
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08:05:38 <joepie91> holy crap
08:05:41 <joepie91> just realized
08:05:45 <joepie91> "you can't arrest an idea"
08:06:02 <joepie91> is basically the same as the slogan that has been used amongst squatters for quite some time now
08:06:08 <joepie91> "you can't evict ideals"
08:06:21 <joepie91> how did I never realize that before :o
08:11:31 <dorotea> lulz
08:11:38 <dorotea> same ideal too
08:11:43 <dorotea> it's not a new one :)
08:14:26 <dorotea> lol
08:14:36 <dorotea> I missed this
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08:14:37 <dorotea> [20:46:55] <Ozymandias> You guys Czech or something?
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09:01:33 <DrWhat> joepie91
09:35:01 <joepie91> DrWhat: hai
09:35:12 <joepie91> dorotea: well, technically it refers to a different thing that can't be killed off
09:35:34 <joepie91> in the case of squatting it refers to the fight against housing scarcity and pointless abandonment of housing
09:35:51 <joepie91> in the case of anon it refers to anon itself - the idea, the name, no particular ideals behind it
09:36:01 <dorotea> language shapes ideas, and the phrases use the same template
09:36:05 <dorotea> they draw on eachother
09:36:33 <dorotea> whichever is more-original in the listeners mind determines how it is specifically interpreted
09:36:46 <dorotea> (whichever version of the template, that is)
09:36:51 <joepie91> dorotea: however, there are two different terms here
09:36:52 <joepie91> idea vs ideal
09:36:55 <joepie91> and I have translated literraly
09:36:57 <joepie91> (the squatter one)
09:37:08 <joepie91> they have a different connotation
09:37:32 <dorotea> the way I usually interpret things, they are the same
09:37:46 <dorotea> the functional output of them is the same
09:37:55 <dorotea> end point, whatever you want to call it
09:37:58 <joepie91> "librsvg was updated to fix a denial a XML External Entity Inclusion problem, where files on the system could be imported into the SVG. (CVE-2013-1881)"
09:38:00 <joepie91> ^ I... what
09:38:09 <dorotea> oh, cool
09:38:19 <dorotea> bug in remote pull shit
09:38:23 <dorotea> bout time that got fixed
09:38:27 <joepie91> every time xml libs get updated, it's because of some fucking vuln
09:38:28 <joepie91> seriously
09:38:32 <joepie91> can these guys not write secure code
09:38:40 <dorotea> nope
09:38:50 <dorotea> that seems to be the track record
09:38:54 <joepie91> I probably get more vuln fixes for XML parser stuff, than I get feature updates or non-security bug patches...
09:39:00 <dorotea> which is entertaining given xml should be pretty easy
09:39:06 <DrWhat> Want to make a game
09:39:07 <DrWhat> :)
09:39:27 <dorotea> agh man
09:39:30 <dorotea> too fucking late
09:39:33 <dorotea> I want to sleeeeeeep
09:39:37 <dorotea> not gonna finish this paper tonight
09:39:39 <dorotea> but it's damn close
09:39:50 <dorotea> mostly there, only conclusion left and final cleanup
09:40:06 <joepie91> dorotea:
09:40:54 <joepie91> dorotea: this makes me wonder
09:41:00 <dorotea> that's ugly
09:41:04 <joepie91> new: China_Internet_Network_Information_Center_EV_Certificates_Root: server auth
09:41:09 <dorotea> new turktrust cert without the old one removed
09:41:21 <dorotea> cinic!
09:41:23 <joepie91> so why would the Chinese need to "break SSL" again if they wanted to attack the US
09:41:26 <joepie91> as the US is always claiming?
09:41:31 <joepie91> they just get their own certs signed
09:41:32 <joepie91> and done
09:41:38 <joepie91> obv this is not a new situation
09:41:41 <joepie91> but this list made me realize that
09:41:47 <dorotea> endpoint security is much easier to attack
09:41:49 <joepie91> seeing as certificate pinning is basically non-existent
09:42:18 <dorotea> hmm
09:42:21 <dorotea> who is swisscom
09:42:39 <dorotea> oh, major swiss telecom
09:42:43 <joepie91> yes
09:42:49 <joepie91> either national or former national
09:42:50 <joepie91> iirc
09:42:57 <dorotea> former
09:43:04 <dorotea> successor to ptt (national)
09:43:11 <joepie91> what
09:43:12 <joepie91> PTT?
09:43:17 <joepie91> it was called PTT there as well?
09:43:24 <joepie91> because it was here in NL
09:43:24 <dorotea> this is what wiki tells me
09:43:24 <joepie91> lol
09:43:36 <dorotea> Swisscom AG is a major telecommunications provider in Switzerland. Along with Swiss Post, it is a successor company to the former state-owned PTT. Its headquarters are located at Worblaufen near Bern.
09:44:07 <dorotea> which reminds me
09:44:10 <dorotea> need to get .ch
09:44:39 <dorotea> I keep forgetting to go play jurisdictional bingo
09:44:45 <dorotea> :3
09:46:01 <dorotea> hmm
09:46:08 <dorotea> my ipv6 doesn't seem to be working today
09:47:38 <dorotea> hmm
09:47:41 <dorotea> funk
09:47:44 <dorotea> y
09:48:00 <dorotea> I think ipv6 addresses are being assigned and then the routes are dropped or something
09:48:12 <dorotea> mostly why do I have 7 of them
09:48:17 <dorotea> on the same interface
09:49:47 <dorotea> ooh, so much new updates
09:49:55 <dorotea> many wow, such bugs,
09:50:27 * dorotea sleeps
09:52:25 <joepie91> dorotea: PTT -> split into KPN (telecom) and PTT Post (mail) -> TPG -> TNT Post -> PostNL
09:52:29 <joepie91> somewhere along the road
09:52:32 <joepie91> both were privatized
09:52:38 <joepie91> also goodnight
09:52:45 <joepie91> while i figure out why the fuck I am not freeing up disk space
09:52:47 <joepie91> despite removing shit
09:54:05 <dorotea> sync() problems?
09:55:15 <joepie91> nfi
09:56:57 <joepie91> LOL
09:57:04 <joepie91> sven@linux-rfa7:~/projects/nzbspider> /usr/bin/xfce4-dockbarx-plug
09:57:05 <joepie91> Stop it. This program needs to be run by the XFCE embed plugin.
09:59:04 <joepie91> ---
09:59:06 <joepie91> # If you try to run this by itself, you're bad and you should feel bad.
09:59:07 <joepie91> if socket == 0:
09:59:07 <joepie91>     sys.exit("Stop it. This program needs to be run by the XFCE embed plugin.")
09:59:07 <joepie91> # You also need a configuration file, you bad program user.
09:59:07 <joepie91> if config == "":
09:59:07 <joepie91>     sys.exit("Forgetting something? You need a configuration file.")
09:59:07 <joepie91> ---
09:59:08 <joepie91> hahaha
10:08:15 <DrWhat> .title
10:08:16 <botpie91> DrWhat: Friendly Axe wielding BRs - YouTube
10:08:23 <DrWhat> The joys of being a game dev
10:12:55 <DrWhat>
10:12:58 <DrWhat> .title
10:12:59 <botpie91> DrWhat: Mary Gets Trolled Hard - Cali Map Lol - YouTube
10:13:01 <DrWhat> XD
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10:15:07 <DrWhat> joepie91 i want to fuck you in the ass
10:15:10 <DrWhat> get here now
10:15:11 <DrWhat> Pboy
10:16:11 <DrWhat>
10:16:13 <DrWhat> .title
10:16:14 <botpie91> DrWhat: Mary Gets Trolled Hard - Cali Map Lol - YouTube
10:16:26 <DrWhat>
10:16:27 <DrWhat> .itle
10:16:30 <DrWhat> .title
10:16:31 <botpie91> DrWhat: Epic Vehicle Glitch Infestation - YouTube
10:16:40 <DrWhat> This dev is funny :D
10:28:33 <joepie91> DrWhat: that's hard to do remotely :)
10:32:35 <DrWhat> whats hard to do
10:36:15 <joepie91> DrWhat: your... somewhat indiscriminate suggestion :P
10:36:18 <joepie91> ohai twitchyliquid64!
10:36:30 <DrWhat> :/
10:36:35 <DrWhat> Your what...
10:36:39 <DrWhat> 90+ miles from me
10:37:45 <joepie91> eh, I guess
10:37:56 <joepie91> :P
10:48:12 <DrWhat> So yeah
10:48:19 <DrWhat> my penis is big enough for that
10:49:58 <joepie91> haha
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12:10:58 <joepie91> okay, I somehow managed to mount my homedir in a subdirectory of my homedir by making a type in an sshfs command
12:10:59 <joepie91> wtf?
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12:32:11 <joepie91> DrWhat:
12:32:12 <joepie91> ujelly?
12:32:17 <joepie91> :3
12:32:34 <joepie91> (my traceroute/ping to one of my VPSes... it's practically next door, 10km away...)
12:32:48 <DrWhat> Soooo....
12:32:54 <DrWhat> My server is at my feet
12:33:11 <DrWhat> 8.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
12:33:13 <DrWhat> What The F? IS THAT
12:33:18 <DrWhat> also
12:33:30 <DrWhat> 8,1C1,8A8,1U1,8T8,1I1,8O8,1N4 That gay joepie91 is on IRC 8,1C1,8A8,1U1,8T8,1I1,8O8,1N
12:33:36 <DrWhat> ^_^
12:34:22 <joepie91> DrWhat: probably just a router that's not responding to pings
12:34:28 <joepie91> and yes
12:34:30 <joepie91> your server is at your feet
12:34:36 <joepie91> your feet are probably not in a datacenter :)
12:34:54 <DrWhat>
12:35:06 <DrWhat> If that isnt a good reason to learn C++ i dont know what is
12:35:12 <DrWhat> joepie91 lets learn C++ togather
12:35:15 <joepie91> meh :P
12:35:18 <joepie91> I don't like C++
12:35:21 <joepie91> started learning it, abandoned it
12:35:34 <DrWhat> I dont like how complex it is
12:35:37 <DrWhat> But i want to use it
12:35:48 <DrWhat> I have tons of source codes for shit i wish i could use :D
12:36:00 <DrWhat> Lets learn togather
12:36:04 <DrWhat> Make a opensource game
12:36:06 <DrWhat> :P
12:36:10 <DrWhat> Cryto games
12:36:30 <DrWhat> ========== Build: 10 succeeded, 8 failed, 2 up-to-date, 3 skipped ==========
12:36:31 <DrWhat> :(
12:36:33 <DrWhat> 8 failed
12:44:57 <joepie91> DrWhat: I definitely want to get into OSS gamedev
12:45:02 <joepie91> but that would have to be on an open platform
12:45:02 <joepie91> :P
12:52:05 <DrWhat> yes
12:52:57 <joepie91> DrWhat: also, main issue with OSS gamedev: finding artists
12:53:00 <joepie91> as in
12:53:02 <joepie91> graphical/audio
12:55:35 <DrWhat> hmmm
12:55:42 <DrWhat> not hard to find artists
12:56:35 <joepie91> DrWhat: it's hard to find good artists that understand/support open-source projects
12:56:40 <joepie91> I mean, there's a reason OpenGameArt exists
12:56:41 <joepie91> heh
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16:25:26 <onions> guys
16:25:37 <onions> if I wanted to run python program in background and make it so every 3 minutes to goes to a webpage and checks for anything new, and it reads the webpage to do so then it would compare what it obtained from the web to what it has currently
16:25:39 <onions> any ideas?
16:26:37 <joepie91> what do you define as "anything new" or "changed"?
16:26:49 <joepie91> on more complex sites, pageloads are almost never identical
16:27:01 <joepie91> because of -some- component on the page being different (even if just an advertisement)
16:27:13 <onions> joepie91: basically, lets say in the program we are looking for the text "example" inside the page we just read
16:27:21 <onions> if we hit the text "example" then do following action
16:27:30 <joepie91> well, that isn't hard
16:27:40 <onions> otherwise just idle and check again in another few minutes
16:27:55 <joepie91> import requests; if "example" in requests.get("").text: do_thing()
16:28:05 <joepie91> add a time.sleep in there
16:28:06 <joepie91> and a while True loop
16:28:12 <joepie91> and you're pretty much done :)
16:28:29 <joepie91> requests =
16:28:35 <joepie91> don't bother with urrllib, it's horrible
16:28:54 <onions> hmm k thanks
16:29:06 <joepie91> onions: try writing something and let me know if you get it to work
16:29:53 <onions> kk
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18:10:46 <DrWhat> OH FUCK
18:10:53 <DrWhat> There is nothing wrong!
18:10:58 <DrWhat> That means there is somthing wrong
18:11:11 <Ozymandias> What's goin on guys
18:11:22 * DrWhat leaps into joepie91's arms
18:11:45 <DrWhat> 4Captures a 2ROSE4...woven between the fragrant hair of joepie91 then surrounds in a great big hug ... and in the end he kisses her gently
18:12:06 <DrWhat> joepie91
18:12:08 <Ozymandias> Ok, not quite what you hear on an IRC everyday
18:12:19 <joepie91> ... her?
18:12:20 <DrWhat> 13 joepie91 4you are sweeter than a 8,7TABLESPOON OF HONEY
18:12:30 <joepie91> DrWhat: okay, now it's getting scary
18:12:37 <DrWhat> You know you want it
18:12:40 <joepie91> and I wonder why these commands even exist :|
18:12:53 <DrWhat> Por favor you :D
18:13:04 <Ozymandias> Lol. This is sending off serious gay vibes
18:13:28 <DrWhat> 8,1C1,8A8,1U1,8T8,1I1,8O8,1N4 That gay DrWhat is on IRC 8,1C1,8A8,1U1,8T8,1I1,8O8,1N
18:13:43 <Ozymandias> Yep. There it is
18:13:46 <Ozymandias> Called it
18:13:53 <DrWhat> ^_^
18:14:05 <Ozymandias> These commands exist. Oh my word
18:14:13 <DrWhat> I have alot more :D
18:14:20 <Ozymandias> Please no more
18:14:29 <DrWhat> Many are multi-line
18:14:35 <DrWhat> And joepie91 doesnt like those
18:14:48 <Ozymandias> Lulz so I see
18:15:01 <DrWhat> but
18:15:17 <DrWhat> They have a idenitfer of being bold
18:15:23 <DrWhat> so i know which ones they are
18:15:31 * DrWhat hopes thats what the bold ones mean
18:15:32 * joepie91 sighs
18:15:58 <Ozymandias> Lulz again
18:16:00 <DrWhat>
18:17:01 <DrWhat> But yeah
18:17:09 <DrWhat> Cryengine wont compile
18:17:14 <DrWhat> Unreal engine wont compile
18:17:15 <DrWhat> :(
18:17:20 <DrWhat> I dont know what im doing
18:17:21 <DrWhat> HALP
18:17:31 <joepie91> DrWhat: idk
18:17:31 <joepie91> :P
18:17:32 <Ozymandias> Lulz. Joepie
18:17:45 <Ozymandias> This IRC man
18:17:56 <DrWhat> Ozymandias Its gets worse
18:18:58 <Ozymandias> Ya?
18:20:25 <DrWhat> what?
18:21:02 <Ozymandias> So your a whovian?
18:21:39 <Ozymandias> I guessed by your nick
18:21:47 <Ozymandias> Like Dr.Who?
18:27:14 <DrWhat> no
18:27:22 <DrWhat> there is no relation between me a drwho
18:27:27 <DrWhat> First of
18:27:30 <DrWhat> its Doctor Who
18:27:36 <DrWhat> second of
18:27:40 <DrWhat> is DrWhatNoName
18:28:55 <Ozymandias> Lulz your a whovian. Com on what's your favorite doctor?
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18:33:47 * joepie91 should sleep
18:33:51 <joepie91> ima go to bed
18:33:54 <joepie91> you guys play nice :)
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18:37:20 <dorotea> lol
18:37:26 <dorotea> derp harder, you guys
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18:39:38 <joepie91> terrible timing, dorotea
18:39:45 <joepie91> :P
18:39:47 <joepie91> anyway, goodnight all
18:40:03 <dorotea> :D
18:40:06 <dorotea> night joepie91 :)
18:40:08 <Ozymandias> Lulz. wondered when Joepie sleeps
18:40:10 <dorotea> sleep well
18:40:17 <dorotea> he sleeps whenever the fuck he pleases
18:40:23 <dorotea> I swear it changes every week
18:40:28 <Ozymandias> On for like a solid 14 hours
18:40:35 <Ozymandias> dude needs it
18:40:44 <dorotea> haha, you haven't met me have you
18:40:49 <Ozymandias> no
18:40:53 <dorotea> :P
18:40:54 <joepie91> dorotea: my sleeping is fairly regular
18:40:58 <dorotea> is it?
18:41:00 <joepie91> sleep between 6pm-8pm
18:41:07 <dorotea> Maybe mine's just fucked right now
18:41:10 <dorotea> we used to have a cadence
18:41:22 <Ozymandias> I dont hang on this chan much
18:41:33 <dorotea> I noticed
18:41:37 <dorotea> :D
18:41:40 <Ozymandias> And lol joepie your sleep schedual
18:41:53 <Ozymandias> where are tou like france?
18:41:55 <dorotea> his isn't much different from mine
18:42:03 <dorotea> I sleep at 10pm latest, normally
18:42:04 <Ozymandias> You people lol
18:42:07 <joepie91> do we have a .time?
18:42:08 <joepie91> .time
18:42:09 <joepie91> .t
18:42:09 <botpie91> Sat, 21 Dec 2013 18:42:09 GMT
18:42:13 <dorotea> hot
18:42:14 <joepie91> .t Dordrecht, Netherlands
18:42:14 <botpie91> joepie91: Sorry, I don't know about the 'Dordrecht, Netherlands' timezone.
18:42:19 <dorotea> gmt all the things
18:42:20 <joepie91> well that wasn't very helpful
18:42:23 <joepie91> .t Europe/Amsterdam
18:42:24 <botpie91> Sat Dec 21 19:42:23 CET 2013
18:42:25 <joepie91> there
18:42:31 <Ozymandias> 1:42 in the US
18:42:34 <Ozymandias> pm
18:42:38 <dorotea> east coaster lol
18:42:45 <Ozymandias> yup
18:43:18 <Ozymandias> (mumbles 'murica to himself)
18:43:33 <dorotea> satan worshipping consumerist!
18:43:34 <dorotea> :D
18:43:40 <Ozymandias> nope
18:43:48 <Ozymandias> no satanist here
18:43:51 <dorotea> no citizens anymore, only consumers
18:43:58 <dorotea> such sad. many cries. wow.
18:44:06 <Ozymandias> for america?
18:44:12 <dorotea> c'est correct
18:44:24 <dorotea> also, just so we're clear, west coast == best coast
18:44:54 <Ozymandias> Hey we have been better. But unfourtunatly we are still the best country in the worl
18:44:58 <Ozymandias> world*
18:45:08 <Ozymandias> And west coast?
18:45:12 <Ozymandias> not much to see
18:45:42 <dorotea> I suppose you haven't seen the sunset here
18:45:53 <Ozymandias> I can see the sunse here
18:45:53 <dorotea> nothin' like it
18:46:30 <Ozymandias> lulz
18:46:34 <Ozymandias> go to canada
18:46:51 <Ozymandias> canadas west coast is more to my favor
18:47:02 <dorotea> too far north
18:47:10 <dorotea> would prefer costa rica to canadia
18:47:11 <Ozymandias> na just right
18:47:22 <Ozymandias> alberta any day
18:47:57 <dorotea> like 25 degrees too cold
18:48:04 <dorotea> at the best of times
18:48:11 <Ozymandias> na I love the chill
18:48:15 <dorotea> hate that shit
18:48:22 <Ozymandias> luv it
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18:49:34 <dorotea> hmm
18:49:39 <dorotea> nobody on google has answered my question
18:49:53 <Ozymandias> what is it?
18:49:54 <dorotea> "when the sun sets here, where does it rise?"
18:50:05 <Ozymandias> rises in the east sets in the west
18:50:18 <dorotea> that's not the answer to the question
18:50:35 <Ozymandias> Its relative to the position and rotation to the earth, duh
18:50:39 <dorotea> it would be a simple gis routine to find every city on the opposite side of the world within 5 minutes
18:50:43 <dorotea> rotational minutes
18:51:16 <Ozymandias> what does that have to do with it?
18:51:31 <dorotea> what do you mean
18:51:36 <dorotea> it's the answer to my question
18:51:44 <dorotea> it has everything to do with it
18:51:46 <Ozymandias> one side of the world is dark to other transitioning to light and vice versa
18:51:53 <dorotea> correct
18:52:07 <dorotea> so what is the list of cities on the other side of the world who are being lit as I am watching the sun set?
18:52:10 <dorotea> that is my question
18:52:16 <Ozymandias> oh..
18:52:21 <dorotea> restated for the third time
18:52:22 <dorotea> lol
18:52:36 <Ozymandias> didnt think thats what you ment
18:52:41 <dorotea> I suspect you wouldn't do well with eastern philosophy
18:52:49 <dorotea> everything is written that way
18:52:49 <dorotea> lol
18:52:53 <Ozymandias> no I would
18:53:03 <dorotea> I know, you were projecting your context onto mine
18:53:04 <dorotea> :P
18:53:17 <dorotea> Which is why I kept restating my question until you understood what it was I was asking
18:53:33 <Ozymandias> Stupid question to ask.
18:53:37 <dorotea> never
18:53:49 <Ozymandias> They would have to know where you where tonproperly answer
18:54:04 <dorotea> that's acceptable
18:54:07 <Ozymandias> to properly*
18:54:28 <Ozymandias> youd have to tell them where you were
18:54:34 <Ozymandias> latatude longatude
18:54:36 <dorotea> sure
18:54:41 <dorotea> they can gather it from my pc
18:54:57 <dorotea> there's an API for that, now
18:54:59 <dorotea> :P
18:55:04 <dorotea> has been present for a couple years now
18:55:16 <Ozymandias> what site did you post it on, and i know
18:55:24 <dorotea> I didn't post it
18:55:29 <Ozymandias> oh
18:55:30 <dorotea> well, here
18:55:37 <dorotea> this is logged, and the logs are posted online
18:55:44 <Ozymandias> ya
18:55:53 <dorotea> so I suppose I posted it online
18:55:53 <dorotea> lol
18:55:59 <Ozymandias> yep
18:56:14 <dorotea> I mean other than the fact that I'm speaking to you through the internet, which necessarily means it's being posted online
18:56:23 <Ozymandias> again yes
18:57:15 <Ozymandias> I noticed the topic says no anonymous. but what about hacking?
18:58:06 <dorotea> read the whole thing
18:58:22 <Ozymandias> it says no cracking
18:58:32 <dorotea> correct
18:58:56 <Ozymandias> Whats that implying
18:58:59 <dorotea> If you're sure you know exactly the difference between the two, proceed
18:59:05 <dorotea> otherwise, best to avoid the topic entirely
18:59:13 <Ozymandias> what is it?
18:59:23 <dorotea> If you don't already know...
18:59:46 <Ozymandias> no. I stick to the hacker forums
19:00:00 <dorotea> I dunno what that is, sounds like cracking forums
19:00:08 <Ozymandias> what is cracking?
19:00:20 <dorotea> malicious, non-research oriented
19:00:30 <Ozymandias> do you know what hacking is?
19:00:35 <dorotea> what you probably erroneously call hacking
19:00:44 <dorotea> security research
19:00:48 <dorotea> fixing problems
19:00:50 <dorotea> etc
19:00:54 <Ozymandias> I know
19:01:09 <dorotea> though hacking's a bit more generic than just computing
19:01:18 <Ozymandias> well no shit
19:01:25 <Ozymandias> its system inflitration
19:01:35 <Ozymandias> wether good or bad
19:01:45 <Ozymandias> whether*
19:01:56 <Ozymandias> obvi you arnt a hacker
19:02:40 <Ozymandias> god this chan is a bore
19:02:46 <dorotea> so leave
19:02:59 <dorotea> If you're here to put people down, you can go
19:04:13 <dorotea> NP: [Yes - Owner Of A Lonely Heart] [FABRICLIVE.33] [852kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6
19:04:25 <Ozymandias> i here looking for intellegent covo.
19:04:42 <Ozymandias> evidetly the anons are the only ones capable
19:04:49 <Ozymandias> Ozy out
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19:05:03 <dorotea> If you're looking for intelligent conversation, I suggest making the first step in that direction :)
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19:08:54 <dorotea> so, really, anybody know of a place where you can input a locale and it'll give you a list of major cities within 5 longitudinal minutes on the opposite side of the earth, taking into account seasons and such
19:09:25 <dorotea> If I take GIS in the fall I'll just build it, but it's shitty to wait so long
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19:38:56 <dorotea> AHH
19:39:00 <dorotea> NATIVE TWITTER ALERTS
19:39:19 <dorotea> next to the follow button there is now a twitter alert enable button on the apps!
19:39:23 <dorotea> EXCELLENT
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