Cryto! 30 November 2013
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09:05:42 <joepie91> root@box:~# screen -x
09:05:42 <joepie91> Attaching from inside of screen?
09:05:43 <joepie91> lol
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10:03:05 <lysobit> I thought a screen inside a screen isn't possible? At least the last time I tried.
10:10:01 *** MrPinky2 is now known as MrPinky
10:14:37 <joepie91> lysobit: that's what it's telling me
10:14:37 <joepie91> :P
10:39:10 <orbit> Hey guys
10:39:30 <joepie91> ohai
10:39:37 <orbit> Morning, how are you? :)
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10:48:09 <orbit> by the way joepie91 the today page of wire.cryto.net is broken
10:50:34 <joepie91> orbit: yup, known bug, it's somewhere on the miles-long todo list :)
10:50:40 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
10:50:40 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-11-30#T10-50-40
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10:50:44 <joepie91> ^ that's the most useful method
10:51:01 <joepie91> and /me is reasonably okay
10:51:44 * joepie91 is currently trying to regain access to a VPS
10:53:33 <orbit> Fair enough :) Just thought I should tell you
10:53:41 <joepie91> thanks :P
10:53:45 <orbit> Ahh okay np :)
10:53:51 <orbit> Your VPS?
10:54:30 <joepie91> yes
10:54:36 <joepie91> my StyleX Networks VPS
10:54:42 <joepie91> was a special deal
10:54:48 <joepie91> $1 one-time payment
10:54:51 <joepie91> lifetime VPS
10:54:56 <joepie91> 10GB disk, 128MB RAM
10:55:07 <orbit> Shit that's pretty hood
10:55:12 <joepie91> anyway, I hadn't used it for some time and wanted to spin it back up again
10:55:19 <joepie91> but then noticed that it wouldn't boot
10:55:20 <orbit> Fair enough. :)
10:55:23 <orbit> Ahh
10:55:23 <joepie91> sent a ticket and they fixed it
10:55:29 <joepie91> but I still need to change my password
10:55:33 <orbit> Ahh got you
10:55:45 <joepie91> already booted into recovery mode but can't figure out what the VNC hostname is
10:55:45 <orbit> also I meant to ask
10:55:56 <joepie91> and of course the VNC applet in the panel is broken, because lol icedtea
10:55:57 <orbit> your site is coded in python? Are you using django? or w/e
10:56:00 <orbit> Ahhh
10:56:02 <joepie91> orbit: which site?
10:56:02 <orbit> I see
10:56:06 <orbit> Wire.cryto.net
10:56:18 <joepie91> that's actually Python, and not even code I wrote :P
10:56:27 <joepie91> it's a really hacky CGI setup
10:56:36 <orbit> Ahh fair enough, do you prefer python over php for websites?
10:56:38 <orbit> Ahh fair :P
10:56:41 <joepie91> not really
10:56:56 <joepie91> python A. has terrible documentation and B. isn't supported well under lighttpd
10:57:03 <joepie91> (and I'm still not convinced it's any better under nginx)
10:57:24 <orbit> Ahh fair enough
10:57:30 <orbit> I'll stick with PHp then xD
10:57:39 <orbit> Sorry for all my questions
10:57:57 <joepie91> orbit; PHP is a terrible terrible language, but until the above two issues are solved I'm unlikely to switch to Python :/
10:58:55 <orbit> Fair enough, ahh damn :/ is there a better web app dev language?
10:59:00 <orbit> Someone told me about RoR
11:00:35 <joepie91> I'm not a fan of Ruby's resource usage (and seeming verbosity)
11:00:45 <orbit> hrm fair enough
11:01:01 <joepie91> I've been considering doing more with Node.js or Go
11:01:12 <joepie91> but Javascript syntax is still icky
11:01:25 <joepie91> and I'm not convinced there is enough of an independent ecosystem around Go yet
11:01:35 <joepie91> (if Google drops support for it now, it'll probably die)
11:01:40 <joepie91> otherwise both seem pretty nice
11:02:37 <orbit> Ah fair enough I've heard of both but never ttried them :P
11:15:03 <iceTwy> orbit: Node is quite amazing
11:15:07 <iceTwy> and Go is promising, too
11:15:28 <joepie91> iceTwy: "string".indexOf("s") !== false
11:15:30 <joepie91> or -1
11:15:32 <joepie91> or whatever the fuck it was
11:15:38 <iceTwy> hmm?
11:15:39 <joepie91> I mean, really
11:15:52 <joepie91> that's the javascript equivalent of ("s" in "string")
11:16:02 <joepie91> and that kind of stuff is why I don't like JS syntax
11:16:08 <joepie91> same for arrays
11:16:24 <orbit> Ahh that's nice
11:16:40 <joepie91> nice? :|
11:16:53 <orbit> That node and go is promising
11:17:27 <orbit> Meh if you used javascript a lot I'm sure you'd get used to it. lol
11:17:41 <iceTwy> you do
11:18:13 <orbit> Do you use js a lot?
11:18:40 <orbit> Can JS be used to dev web apps? I thought it was just for scripts
11:21:55 <iceTwy> no, I don't use JS a lot
11:22:05 <iceTwy> and JS itself can hardly be used to develop web apps
11:22:12 <iceTwy> usually JS will help in developing a web app
11:22:37 <iceTwy> but, without at least Node, it'd be unlikely for you to run a 100% JS web app
11:23:02 <orbit> Ahh fair enough.
11:23:10 <orbit> That's what I thought.
11:32:26 <joepie91> orbit; I do use JS a lot and it still bothers me...
11:32:33 <joepie91> :|
11:32:44 <joepie91> also I think I just triggered a race condition in tahoe-lafs
11:33:28 <joepie91> concurrent directory modifications
11:34:37 <orbit> Fair enough, is that bad?
11:51:28 <orbit> I have no idea why I am reading through all the cryto irc logs lol
11:52:01 <joepie91> that's quite bad, yes :P
11:52:09 <joepie91> or well
11:52:11 <joepie91> good that I found it
11:52:12 <joepie91> bad that it exists
11:52:27 <orbit> Ah fair enough :)
12:06:10 <orbit> lol'd at todays google doodle
12:07:44 <iceTwy> lol wtf?
12:07:51 <iceTwy> orbit, joepie91: http://oridomi.com/
12:08:35 <orbit> lolwut
12:08:48 <orbit> "The web is flat, but now you can fold it up."
12:09:03 <orbit> Aww this is pretty cool actually.
12:18:36 <orbit> goin to start work on my IRC bot, I'll talk to you guys later.
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14:48:59 <joepie91> this has to be the most retarded Python discussion I've ever laid eyes on: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/python-ideas/-RFTqV8_aS0
14:51:34 <connor> .bitcoin
14:51:35 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1124.50, 1 BTC = €878.00
14:52:05 <connor> anyone know when bitcoin will be down again?
14:52:27 <connor> to about $600/$800 ish?
14:52:44 <connor> (is it likely this could happen)
14:54:15 <joepie91> <connor>anyone know when bitcoin will be down again?
14:54:18 <joepie91> is this a real question
14:54:29 <joepie91> are you asking people for insider knowledge on a purely market-driven exchange rate?
14:54:32 <connor> yes, obiously nobody knows
14:54:38 <connor> I am asking if it's likely
14:54:46 <connor> obviously*
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15:25:20 <DrWhat> btc $1200?
15:25:23 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
15:25:24 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1097.90, 1 BTC = €876.78
15:25:27 <DrWhat> wow
15:28:02 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
15:28:02 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1097.10, 1 BTC = €876.78
15:28:07 <DrWhat> its 1200
15:28:11 <DrWhat> No 1000
15:33:29 <DrWhat> July 2010, BTC was 0.05USD per BTC
15:33:43 <DrWhat> 3 years and a bit later
15:34:11 <frosty> lel
15:34:11 <DrWhat> its now 500,000x that
15:35:10 <DrWhat> I said was was going to sell my BTC when it was at $600
15:35:17 <DrWhat> I think
15:35:24 <DrWhat> Imm just going to ride the wae :)
15:36:57 <frosty> wow
15:37:00 <frosty> just registered for twitter
15:37:02 <frosty> and instant suspension
15:38:20 <DrWhat> Whats for
15:38:27 <DrWhat> wait
15:38:28 <DrWhat> WHAT
15:38:43 <DrWhat> Did you use a proxy when you signed up or somthing?
15:40:10 <DrWhat> I love one of my monitors looking liek this
15:40:11 <DrWhat> http://prntscr.com/27pi9n
15:40:12 <DrWhat> :D
15:42:09 <frosty> ya
15:47:13 <frosty> DrWhat @FrostyBitMe
15:53:05 <DrWhat> is that ya you was using a proxy
15:53:26 <frosty> ye
15:56:33 <DrWhat> that would be why then
15:57:27 <joepie91> tricky stuff: http://pastebin.com/hz0c1dcY
15:57:42 <joepie91> trying to write a script that can determine how much usable space there is on the tahoe-lafs grid
15:57:48 <joepie91> given a number of shares
15:58:00 <joepie91> much more complex than it sounds
15:58:00 <joepie91> :P
16:03:07 <joepie91> okay
16:03:12 <joepie91> oops, wrong window
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16:35:20 <connor> .nitcoin
16:35:25 <connor> .bitcoin
16:35:26 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1117.00, 1 BTC = €872.00
16:36:28 <joepie91> nitcoin!
16:39:38 <connor> lol
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16:59:49 <MrPinky> re
17:00:08 <iceTwy> hey there MrPinky
17:00:28 <MrPinky> hi iceTwy
17:01:07 * DrWhat scratches head
17:01:17 * DrWhat generated 50 nitcoins
17:01:18 <DrWhat> YAY
17:04:10 <iceTwy> so, DrWhat
17:04:35 <iceTwy> it only took you a head scratch, and by the time you were done you'd generated 50 nitcoins?
17:04:38 <iceTwy> such noice
17:04:40 <iceTwy> wow
17:04:50 <DrWhat> ?
17:05:05 <DrWhat> are you insulting me
17:05:16 <DrWhat> insulting my inteleigence
17:05:25 <DrWhat> Becuase im too stupid
17:05:29 <DrWhat> gahhh
17:05:36 <DrWhat> I needs more coffee
17:06:19 <iceTwy> well no
17:06:26 <iceTwy> I'm saying that's pretty cool
17:08:00 <MrPinky> coffee ... good idea
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17:53:29 <MrPinky> joepie91
17:53:34 <MrPinky> that dns take really long
17:53:38 <MrPinky> :)
17:59:45 <joepie91> MrPinky: I'm afraid it's going to be 24h...
17:59:55 <joepie91> would recommend setting /etc/hosts for now
18:00:07 <MrPinky> no problem cause i am just building the kernel etc
18:00:32 <joepie91> ok :P
18:00:33 <MrPinky> firewall and all that stuff
18:00:35 <joepie91> I have to go though
18:00:38 <joepie91> so I'll be back later
18:00:42 <MrPinky> no worries talk u later
18:00:43 <MrPinky> kk
18:00:45 <MrPinky> mhh
18:00:49 <MrPinky> kernel building is finished
18:00:52 <MrPinky> 28 seconds ^^
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21:56:09 <DrWhat> 1200
21:56:11 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
21:56:13 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1138.03, 1 BTC = €875.00
21:56:15 <DrWhat> YOU LIE
21:57:32 <connor> lol
22:43:56 <frosty> .bitcoin
22:43:57 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $1137.00, 1 BTC = €873.00
22:46:08 * DrWhat types something random in chat
22:52:03 <frosty> lel
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