Cryto! 27 November 2013

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03:50:03 <apx> .bitcoin
03:50:04 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $902.10, 1 BTC = €705.00
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04:15:34 * ElectRo` begins the 1k chant
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05:16:38 <Ari>
05:16:38 <Ari> unf
05:29:09 <MK_FG> No sane console amulator should ever use same font as cmd.exe!
05:29:56 <MK_FG> Actually, what's that font called?
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06:05:02 <Ari> lol
06:05:05 <Ari> consolas maybe
06:23:15 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
06:23:15 <loggy>
06:23:43 <joepie91> MK_FG: probably Fixedsys or so?
06:24:07 <joepie91> oh
06:24:11 <joepie91> I mean the original cmd.exe font
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08:05:11 <MK_FG> I meant that thing too, and I thought that's also it on screenshots of that cmder app
08:05:50 <MK_FG> Gotta try set it up in linux terms, just to troll myself :P
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08:23:24 <joepie91> MK_FG; cmder def has a different font than standard Windows console
08:23:45 <joepie91> cmder font feels like Consolas or some kind of OS X-like font
08:25:38 <x> joepie91 o/
08:26:03 <joepie91> hai
08:26:19 <x> :)
08:26:25 <x> how goes?
08:26:41 <joepie91> goes 'okay
08:26:42 <joepie91> '
08:27:25 <x> good
08:27:32 <x> all is well here too
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08:33:49 <ConstantClass> Hey charles
08:33:55 <Charles> hey
08:34:21 <Charles> .bitcoin
08:34:22 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $907.20, 1 BTC = €707.00
08:34:30 <ConstantClass> You know why
08:34:43 <Charles> why what?
08:35:13 <ConstantClass> Why it is so high at the moment
08:35:44 <Charles> nope...
08:37:41 <ConstantClass>
08:38:05 <ConstantClass>
08:42:42 <Charles> haha
08:42:45 <Charles> expected.
08:42:51 <joepie91> ConstantClass: you're forgetting China
08:43:27 <Charles> zongguo
08:43:53 <Charles> dafuq y cant i type chinese here.
08:44:01 <Charles> ah nvm. pshh
08:44:49 <x> joepie91 y u nu luv me n e moar?
08:44:54 <x> :(
08:45:12 <x> :p
08:47:32 <Charles> :/
08:47:37 <Charles> x, wtf..?
08:47:49 <x> what?
08:48:27 <joepie91>
08:48:34 <joepie91> ^ must watch
08:48:40 <Charles> happy bday x :)
08:49:16 <x> mmmm might be a good watch for me
08:49:33 <x> lol Charles
08:50:16 <Charles> the feelin of loneliness is really bad :(
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08:50:54 <DrWhat> I had sex with joepie91 ex last night
08:50:55 <DrWhat> :D
08:50:55 <Charles> hello DrWhat
08:51:05 <Charles> ...
08:51:10 <Charles> ghey
08:51:18 * x enjoys your company on my nets from time to time, mr. joepie91 <3
08:51:33 <Charles> is there a love triangle ere
08:51:34 <DrWhat> What are you. homophobic...
08:51:36 <joepie91> oh crap
08:51:40 <joepie91> x: my client crashed
08:51:43 <joepie91> lost the address
08:51:46 <joepie91> mind PMing it to me again? :P
08:51:47 <x> oop
08:51:50 <x> okies
08:51:52 <x> :3
08:53:16 <Charles> i like my fingers :3
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09:34:04 <joepie91> .title
09:34:05 <botpie91> joepie91: 29 Dumb Things Finance People Say - Business Insider
09:35:40 <Charles> ._.
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09:54:51 <Charles> .bitcoin
09:54:52 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $907.75, 1 BTC = €713.96
10:08:51 <MK_FG> "Finance is the only industry where people blame their poor forecasting skills on reality" - not really, see programming :P
10:17:31 <joepie91> MK_FG: should have "and get away with it" appended to it
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11:54:41 <iceTwy> heh
11:54:49 <iceTwy> so I hear the NSA spied on pornography habits
11:54:56 <iceTwy> ... skrtly they watched porn all day long
12:05:09 <DrWhat> Old news
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12:34:57 <MK_FG> Heh, I'd be surprised if in large gov org like NSA there weren't some usual half of employees watching porn on the job
12:38:02 <probably> lmao.
12:38:36 <probably> NSA @ the office: "OK, great. Just finished sealing that file... *unzip* it's time."
12:40:10 <MK_FG> They can also get skrit porn - perks of teh job
12:40:30 <probably> lel yup
12:40:47 <probably> I have a feeling you might go get a job there?
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12:40:57 <MK_FG> Tempting!
12:42:46 <DrWhat> nsa get child porn
12:43:24 <MK_FG> There's sikrit law allowing them to use it inside
12:45:43 <probably> lol
12:47:43 <DrWhat> And pony porn
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12:57:47 <DrWhat>
12:57:49 <DrWhat> ^_^
12:59:10 <probably> lol
13:00:08 <probably> I -finally- cleaned up my desktop.
13:00:42 <probably>
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13:08:03 <MK_FG> Congrats
13:12:04 <joepie91> soooooooo
13:12:14 <joepie91>
13:12:32 <joepie91> managed to identify the brand and model of the RFID ID card scanners used by the Lidl here
13:12:39 <joepie91> and looks like they are going to be rolled out across supermarkets
13:13:27 <DrWhat> joepie91 translation?
13:14:42 <joepie91> DrWhat: RFID ID reader
13:14:45 <joepie91> at supermarket
13:14:57 <joepie91> need to swipe ID card when buying alcohol or tobacco
13:15:00 <joepie91> for "age verification"
13:15:03 <joepie91> supposedly "not logging"
13:15:30 <DrWhat> And what?
13:15:35 <DrWhat> you found out they was loggin
13:16:16 <probably> nice find joepie91 lel
13:16:51 <joepie91> DrWhat; no
13:16:55 <joepie91> I'm just skeptical
13:17:03 <joepie91> and there's basically close to zero information about these things
13:17:10 <joepie91> looks like they are being rolled out silently
13:17:19 <DrWhat> RFID ID ards
13:17:27 <DrWhat> Encrypted?
13:17:28 <joepie91> took me a combination of effort and semi-photographic memory to even identify the brand of this thing
13:17:34 <joepie91> and even then it was hard to find the exact page
13:17:40 <joepie91> DrWhat: no
13:17:43 <DrWhat> LOL
13:17:47 <joepie91> pretty sure UK has RFID ID also
13:17:54 <joepie91> as does all of Europe
13:17:59 <DrWhat> Yeah but they are encryted
13:18:01 <joepie91> all data is stored in RFID chip
13:18:02 <joepie91> right
13:18:05 <joepie91> afaik it isn't here
13:18:07 <joepie91> at least, not the birthday
13:18:11 <joepie91> birthdate *
13:18:16 <joepie91> clearly
13:18:34 <DrWhat> here the id cards also act as a travle passd
13:18:43 <DrWhat> so you pay for a week or month
13:18:52 <DrWhat> swipe the card when you get on a bus or train
13:18:57 <DrWhat> No need to mess with money
13:19:15 <DrWhat> but within a month the hacking community got free travle
13:19:29 <DrWhat> so they added encryption
13:19:31 <joepie91> lol
13:19:36 <joepie91> isn't that just oystercards
13:19:53 <DrWhat> you can get just a oystercard yeah
13:20:18 <DrWhat> But they are slowing making ID cards travle passes as well
13:20:36 <DrWhat> Its a serious blunder to not encrypt rfid
13:21:15 <joepie91> right
13:21:26 <joepie91> DrWhat: encryption is pointless if everybody can read it anyway
13:21:36 <joepie91> just slapping "encryption" onto things gives you 0 extra security
13:22:49 <DrWhat> you would need a councle issued Reader to edit the card
13:25:55 <joepie91> DrWhat: which means it would take exactly one person to reverse-engineer one of those readers and everybody is fucked
13:25:58 <joepie91> which most likely has already happened
13:27:58 <DrWhat> ehh
13:28:05 <DrWhat> better then clear text
13:31:17 <lysobit> no, it's worse. A false sense of security is always worse.
13:31:27 <lysobit> If you know that there is no security, you can at least prepare.
13:33:56 <DrWhat> how germans make a bot paNEL
13:33:57 <DrWhat>
13:34:00 <DrWhat> -.-
13:34:57 <DrWhat> I JUST NORTICED LINE 18
13:35:08 <DrWhat> php code injection -.-
13:35:45 <DrWhat> sql injection a php code injection on the same global
13:35:47 <DrWhat> terrible
13:48:18 <probably> LEL
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14:05:12 <joepie91> <lysobit>no, it's worse. A false sense of security is always worse.
14:05:13 <joepie91> <lysobit>If you know that there is no security, you can at least prepare.
14:05:13 <joepie91> that
14:05:34 <joepie91> also, DrWhat, reminder of the channel rules
14:06:39 <joepie91> mm...
14:06:42 <joepie91> .title
14:06:44 <botpie91> joepie91: Microsoft still open sources more technologies than many think | ZDNet
14:12:48 <DrWhat> Channel rules...
14:12:50 <DrWhat> What about them
14:14:38 <MK_FG> "reverse-engineer" "most likely has already happened" - yep, saw video of guy hacking rfids for all unis on last ccc
14:14:53 <MK_FG> (unlimited free food \o/)
14:17:24 <MK_FG> I wonder if they can track person's movements around the shop with these cards
14:17:54 <MK_FG> Like, have remote-readers on shelves, to clearly see and analyze patterns of what people look at
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14:38:22 <joepie91> MK_FG: already being done afaik
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14:47:59 <MK_FG> Well with cameras and such surely it's way harder to generate metrics like "there is 15% of people that follow this exact route, 50% of the time..."
14:48:43 <MK_FG> I.e. track routes of every person instead of just cherry-picking or some mass-distributions
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16:24:35 <joepie91> MK_FG: I mean with RFID cards :)
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17:52:53 <MK_FG> Oh, nice
17:53:21 <MK_FG> One more step towards cyberpank dystopia \o/
17:53:32 <MK_FG> *punk
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18:35:57 <MK_FG> btc = $1000, party \o/
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19:39:49 <complex> 1000 dollar/bitcoin today
19:41:52 <complex> i just got a scholarship from a local bank. i accidently said the name of the wrong bank when they asked me questions
19:49:48 <pzuraq> fuck
20:06:19 <pzuraq> .bitcoin
20:06:20 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $949.99, 1 BTC = €750.00
20:06:28 <pzuraq> :<
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20:38:06 <pzuraq>
20:38:11 <pzuraq> fucking unreal
20:52:14 <complex> wouldnt botnet of miners be the best way to become fucking rich?
20:56:57 <probably> bye
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21:01:41 <connor> .bitcoin
21:01:42 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $963.50, 1 BTC = €774.00
21:01:47 <connor> omg
21:02:09 <connor> I want it to go down so I can buy some -.-
21:02:57 <connor> oh and
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23:00:40 <monod> hello
23:00:45 <monod> I have a question:
23:01:39 <monod> how does working for an important computer videogame software house sound for you?
23:02:07 <monod> I was thinking at the "problem" that coding videogames is not that useful to society at all...
23:02:31 <monod> I just came up with only one positive aspect, that is: I will improve my own skils, at work
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