Cryto! 23 November 2013
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00:12:56 <iceTwy> hey there Zekka
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02:42:14 <asdf> -,-
02:44:07 <lysobit> that's racist to chinese people imo
02:45:12 <lysobit> i should report you to the police for racism
03:00:09 <Charles> hey hey who was being racist? FUUUUU
03:01:09 <asdf> icetwy
03:01:14 <asdf> msg me
03:01:14 <asdf> -,-
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03:46:15 <Charles> .bitcoin
03:46:16 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $818.02, 1 BTC = €600.00
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04:32:32 <joepie91> http://dish2013.nl/speakers/sven-slootweg
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05:04:12 <Charles> .bitcoin
05:04:13 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $817.50, 1 BTC = €600.00
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05:06:32 <Charles> .bitcoin
05:06:33 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $812.86, 1 BTC = €600.00
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05:40:44 <Charles> .bitcoin
05:40:44 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $809.00, 1 BTC = €599.00
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06:57:10 <joepie91> NL service offering anonymous Tahoe-LAFS node hosting, apparently: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2013-November/008792.html
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08:49:15 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
08:49:16 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $847.90, 1 BTC = €634.00
09:20:32 <DrWhat> .btcoin
09:20:35 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
09:20:36 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $838.00, 1 BTC = €628.28
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09:47:05 <joepie91> http://owely.com/111gzRh
09:47:06 <joepie91> yay
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09:57:20 <Charles> why aren't u wearin specs
10:23:39 <joepie91> well, looks like my backup setup works
10:23:43 <joepie91> Charles; hmm?
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11:51:31 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
11:51:32 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $847.94, 1 BTC = €631.00
11:56:37 <lysobit> I thought you disliked unit testing
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12:27:25 <joepie91> lysobit: you've already forgotten the "except when..." clause? :)
12:28:24 <joepie91> "except when it's absolutely critical (eg. crypto) or when it's easy to unintentionally break stuff with serious consequences"
12:28:29 <joepie91> this would be a good example of the latter
12:35:08 * iceTwy facepalms
12:35:11 <iceTwy> joepie91: XMPP
12:35:29 <joepie91> iceTwy: I'm on XMPP...
12:53:49 <lysobit> Honestly though that seems to be how unit testing is generally used in many projects these days, where only a few % of the codebase is actually unit tested
12:58:37 <iceTwy> lysobit: imo you don't need to test /everything/ from A to Z
12:58:47 <iceTwy> that is inefficient and nearly useless
12:58:57 <iceTwy> what really matters is testing the core of a program imo
12:59:42 <iceTwy> now obviously, further tests for less important parts are interesting
13:04:01 <joepie91> you do need to test everything from A to Z
13:04:04 <joepie91> just not through unit tests
13:04:26 <joepie91> a unit test is not going to tell you whether some misunderstanding human is going to find a combination of things to do that breaks your shit
13:04:40 <joepie91> nor does it tell your whether a bit of UI is going to confuse the fuck out of a user\
13:04:40 <joepie91> :P
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13:17:20 <Charles> .wik hypermobility
13:17:21 <botpie91> "Hypermobility describes joints that stretch farther than normal." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermobility
13:17:55 <Charles> .bitcoin
13:17:56 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $859.97, 1 BTC = €642.49
13:18:23 <joepie91> announcement
13:18:30 <joepie91> arvel will be going down shortly
13:18:32 <joepie91> migration to zurich
13:18:42 <joepie91> shouldn't take too long
13:25:05 <Charles> :/
13:25:18 <joepie91> why that face? :p
13:25:51 <Charles> a touch of sadness and delight and other feelings
13:31:52 <Charles> .wik finger trigger
13:31:53 <botpie91> "Trigger finger, trigger thumb, or trigger digit (also referred to as stenosing tenosynovitis), is a common disorder characterized by catching, snapping or locking of the involved finger flexor tendon, associated with dysfunction and pain." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_finger
13:32:25 <Charles> .wik disjointed fingers
13:32:27 <botpie91> "A joint dislocation, or luxation,[1]| occurs when there is an abnormal separation in the joint, where two or more bones meet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_dislocation
13:32:39 <Charles> D:
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14:22:39 <monod> yololo
14:23:41 <lysobit> swaggoyo
14:23:59 <monod> wololoo
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14:40:00 <lysobit> yolo swaggins
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15:53:46 <joepie91> .strip(",")
15:53:50 <joepie91> er
15:53:58 <joepie91> 22 tests failed, 50 errors in total.
15:54:00 <joepie91> ;_;
15:57:27 <joepie91> okay, only a few actual failures
15:57:27 <joepie91> 10 tests failed, 10 errors in total.
15:57:43 <joepie91> all caused by the same change
15:59:03 <joepie91> All tests passed!
15:59:03 <joepie91> :
15:59:06 <joepie91> :D *
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16:01:17 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Added testing script to detect parser breakage. Added support for MarkMonitor, Melbourne IT, Nominet, others, fix for internet.bs with organization name, fix for multi-response from verisign-grs, assorted other fixes.' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/e35140e3a2...268abdb6ad)
16:01:27 <joepie91> monster commit!
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16:08:40 <connor> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/22/virgin-galactic-bitcoin-space-flights-payment
16:08:41 <connor> haha
16:11:01 <Charles> yeah :P
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16:35:11 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 3 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Fix for PIR regex to also support WHOIS data where no organization is specified', '02Fix instructions for test.py', '02Improve normalization by making it leave alone (likely) abbreviations' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/268abdb6ad...81b5b8136b)
16:43:23 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update m.jsonAdded Monokai Gray', '02Update m.jsonComma', '02Merge pull request #2398 from IanWold/masterMonokai Gray' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/cc109b8886...30a33aa3f6)
16:55:51 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Add basic README' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/81b5b8136b...b6b5e80f7b)
16:57:15 <joepie91> 22 tests failed, 73 errors in total.
16:57:16 <joepie91> grrrr
16:59:10 <vld> noob
16:59:30 <joepie91> vld: I changed my normalization code
16:59:38 <joepie91> which means it throws a metric shitton of errors now
16:59:46 <joepie91> because the normalization rules have changed
16:59:46 <joepie91> lol
16:59:46 <vld> you don't know anything!
17:00:13 <vld> you should stop programming and raise cats for a living!
17:00:17 <joepie91> vld: https://iceb.in/paste/eglXjwVT#6dr3Q3V9YrWGImaJCezifLcKBxLWR8aJjx6Um7Mk/Zc=
17:00:45 <Charles> yaaaa
17:00:45 <Charles> cats
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17:20:02 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02Improvements to cleaning and normalization' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/b6b5e80f7b...ad9a2da0e4)
17:38:12 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03python-whois on branch 10develop: '02README clarification' (https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/compare/ad9a2da0e4...e8b7742387)
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18:18:49 <iceTwy> .
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20:23:22 <complex> looks like RSA maybe has been solved
20:24:08 <complex> (from the discrete log problem)
20:28:12 <complex> i guess it isnt solved, but from what i understand it is easier to bruteforce discrete log problem than factoring n: http://eprint.iacr.org/2007/424.pdf
20:29:38 <complex> wow, fancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_number_field_sieve
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20:37:08 <asdf> x
20:37:09 <asdf> noooo
20:50:07 <complex> if i end up solving RSA or something like that, i will never in fucking hell tell it to anyone
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22:23:50 <asdf> joepie91
22:23:56 <asdf> btc hosting providers list, have it still?
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23:58:33 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
23:58:34 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $829.99, 1 BTC = €615.00