Cryto! 24 October 2013

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00:16:08 <DrWhat> .title
00:16:11 <botpie91> DrWhat: OpenMandriva
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00:26:13 <Macbeth> Hey
00:26:23 <Macbeth> cayce you here?
00:26:34 <cayce> Macbeth:) yes why
00:26:50 <Macbeth> What font do you use when creating those buttons?
00:27:11 <cayce> what buttons
00:27:32 <cayce> the buttons I hand made or the others
00:27:50 <Macbeth> It's all the same font
00:28:23 <cayce> well since I didn't use a font on my hand made ones, can't be
00:28:36 <cayce> but assuming you mean the rest, it's called silks. just use
00:29:09 <Macbeth> Oh, that's so awesome, thank you!
00:29:15 <cayce> yeah np
00:34:56 <Macbeth> cayce: so you add in the picture with an editor yourself or does the site have a function for that?
00:37:12 <cayce> the ones with images either aren't mine or weren't made using that site
00:37:40 <cayce> the ones I made with images I made wholly by hand. no pasting images in, I actually hand reproduced the image
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00:38:02 <Macbeth> Oh, alright
00:38:06 <Macbeth> Thank you :)
00:38:07 <cayce> all the ones on the bottom aren't mine
00:38:11 <Macbeth> Alrighty
00:38:17 <cayce> and they're from a different generator
00:38:20 <cayce> though I don't know which
00:38:26 <cayce> if you find it, tell me
00:38:27 <Macbeth> oh, ok
00:38:28 <cayce> :P
00:38:31 <Macbeth> ill do some looking
00:38:34 <Macbeth> thx for the help :)
00:38:37 * Macbeth is away:
00:38:44 <cayce> I only handmade telecomix and prismatic
00:41:49 <cayce> and I had to isolate the cloudflare one because their 80x15 is made of fuckery and javascript
00:42:04 <cayce> they try to make it "asynchronous" like faggots
00:42:23 <cayce> even though it loads 1000x faster by being on my server, because you'd be using spdy
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00:43:26 <Macbeth> ha ha thank you
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01:11:28 * DrWhat pokes cayce
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01:11:55 <DrWhat> Your name is smexy :D
01:12:06 <DrWhat> i want to kiss yuo
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01:14:00 <iceTwy> le yawn
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01:15:46 <iceTwy> DrWhat: yes you have, you just can't remember them
01:16:13 <DrWhat> How would you know if i cant remeber them ?
01:16:30 <DrWhat> becuase if i cant remeber? then it doesnt exsist
01:17:05 <DrWhat> annyway
01:17:10 <DrWhat> nyte
01:18:45 <joepie91> goodnight iceTwi :P
01:18:47 <joepie91> wow
01:18:49 <joepie91> iceTwy *
01:19:22 <iceTwy> iceTwi
01:19:33 <iceTwy> that's kind of how French people pronounce my nickname joepie91
01:19:35 <iceTwy> :D
01:19:42 <iceTwy> or rather, they pronounce it like "icetwee"
01:19:52 <iceTwy> and I'm like 'ergh :/'
01:20:22 <joepie91> eeh-suh-twee
01:20:23 <joepie91> :P
01:20:45 <DrWhat> just like they say shiDharp
01:20:52 <DrWhat> shiSharp*
01:21:18 <DrWhat> stupid french
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01:28:56 <Macbeth> You guys are mean
01:29:02 <Macbeth> Actually, just DrWhat
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01:31:42 <joepie91> Macbeth, on that note:
01:31:43 <cayce> lol that's how I pronounce his name too
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01:31:58 <cayce> ice-twee
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01:37:13 <Macbeth> I read it, joepie91
01:37:15 <Macbeth> Thanks
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01:37:36 <Macbeth> But maybe you should create a pastebin that has specific rules and guidelines?
01:37:42 <Macbeth> That may help
01:38:06 <Macbeth> I so friggin hate some of the people that get into #opnewblood
01:38:10 <Macbeth> Such retards.
01:38:14 <Macbeth> "help me ddos my school"
01:38:31 <Macbeth> "please hack my cup of tea for me!"
01:38:36 <Macbeth> judus priest!
01:38:40 <Macbeth> get out!
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01:39:06 <Dwaan> joepie91,
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01:39:19 <Macbeth> Is it seriously you again?!
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01:40:01 <Macbeth> You would like to know that the channel has recently put new rules into effect so no moar threats of DDoS even though you don't know how, and be nice, Dwaan
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01:44:31 <R0y4lty> lmfao
01:45:37 <Dwaan> Macbeth, ddos coming faggot
01:45:41 <Dwaan> what u gonna do about it
01:45:49 <Dwaan> same goes for you Topiary
01:45:56 <Macbeth> alright
01:46:00 <Macbeth> When is the ddos getting here?
01:46:05 <Dwaan> joepie91 will never ban me
01:46:06 <Topiary> lol
01:46:13 <joepie91> Dwaan
01:46:17 <joepie91> what I said also applies to you
01:46:22 <Dwaan> lol
01:46:27 <Dwaan> challenge accepted
01:46:35 <Dwaan> how do you tolerate this autism
01:46:47 <Dwaan> also
01:46:47 <Macbeth> Someone ban this piece of shit
01:46:47 <Dwaan> joepie91,
01:46:51 <Macbeth> MK_FG
01:46:52 <Dwaan> this ajanti is giving me the shits
01:46:54 <Macbeth> Please ban
01:46:59 <Macbeth> MK_FG
01:47:05 <Dwaan> installed from git
01:47:08 <joepie91> Macbeth, it also applies to you
01:47:09 <Topiary> Macbeth, i agree this time
01:47:10 <Dwaan> does not work properly
01:47:16 <Macbeth> Please be online... This is a bad time to be afk
01:47:22 <Macbeth> OK, I;m sorry joe
01:47:25 <Macbeth> Someone pls ban him
01:47:31 <Dwaan> get out
01:47:41 <joepie91> Macbeth; I've already explained that bans are an absolute last measure
01:47:49 <joepie91> asking for bans will not result in a ban
01:47:56 <joepie91> so stop doing so
01:48:01 <Dwaan> because joepie has a good attitude
01:48:05 <joepie91> if you have issues with someone, let me know
01:48:05 <Dwaan> unlike the typical anonops
01:48:08 <Dwaan> I DO NOT LIKE THIS
01:48:09 <joepie91> and I'll figure out what to do
01:48:10 <Dwaan> BAN
01:48:10 <Dwaan> BAN
01:48:12 <Macbeth> Alright
01:48:17 <Macbeth> Joe, I have an issue with Dwann.
01:48:21 <Macbeth> He has been logging in trolling
01:48:25 <joepie91> yes, I figured as much.
01:48:28 <Macbeth> threatening ddos and hack
01:48:36 <Macbeth> yeah, i know you figured it out, you're not stupid
01:48:38 <Topiary> ^
01:48:59 <Macbeth> So based on the link that u gave me this is a mute
01:49:02 <Macbeth> correct
01:49:04 <Macbeth> ?
01:49:14 <joepie91> Macbeth: except A. he has actually had normal conversation here
01:49:28 <Dwaan> more so than any of you
01:49:37 <joepie91> and B. I don't think he is even aware of what I said
01:49:40 <Dwaan> been around longer
01:49:40 <joepie91> as he came in after I linked
01:49:43 <joepie91> Dwaan: don't push it
01:49:48 <Dwaan> ;)
01:49:58 <joepie91> Dwaan:
01:50:09 <Macbeth> Alright I understand
01:50:17 <joepie91> Dwaan: make sure to read that
01:50:23 <Dwaan> n e tl;dr
01:51:14 <joepie91> Dwaan: read it.
01:52:56 <R0y4lty> macbeth, xmpp?
01:53:16 <joepie91> R0y4lty
01:53:19 <Macbeth> Alright
01:53:21 <joepie91>
01:53:30 <joepie91> please read and acknowledge that you have read it
01:53:31 <Macbeth> R0y4lty is Zoned
01:53:39 <joepie91> as you are on the warning list alraedy
01:53:49 <R0y4lty> (cry)
01:55:18 <Macbeth> well looks like she read the link...
01:55:35 <Dwaan> ha ha
01:56:50 <R0y4lty> joepie91, can we have a drama channel?
01:57:00 <joepie91> R0y4lty: sure, make one
01:57:08 <R0y4lty> lmfao, sec
01:57:09 <Macbeth> #general
01:57:10 <Dwaan> #ddos
01:57:14 <R0y4lty> k done.
01:57:20 <cayce> get in there, kiddos
01:57:21 <R0y4lty> #macbeth <- legit
01:57:40 <Macbeth> yeah
02:01:24 <Macbeth> How do i open a pull request?
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02:01:30 <Macbeth> on github
02:02:48 <joepie91> Macbeth:
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02:03:44 <joepie91> no general channel made?
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02:04:21 <Macbeth> #general
02:04:24 <Macbeth> there is #general
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02:10:43 <Macbeth> joe i know how to get that far but it always give me some shit
02:10:59 * joepie91 personally doesn't really like github UI
02:11:05 <Macbeth>
02:11:13 <Macbeth> I dont like github ui either
02:14:59 <Macbeth> lulz: <anonnews395> how i learn to be anonymous
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02:21:08 <Dwaan> joepie91 how many connections do you allow per ip
02:21:55 <joepie91> Dwaan: not sure, but that question usually doesn't bring much good.
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02:23:26 <Dwaan> ikr
02:25:11 <Macbeth> 3
02:25:16 <Macbeth> says 3
02:25:34 <Dwaan> because that is the default lol
02:30:33 <Macbeth> joepie91: what should i do from here?
02:30:34 <Macbeth>
02:30:49 <joepie91> Macbeth: I really don't know
02:30:50 <joepie91> tbh
02:30:50 <joepie91> :p
02:32:31 <Macbeth> I hate github
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04:24:55 <Dwaan> LOL
04:24:57 <Dwaan> demolished
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04:26:06 <Dwaan> Macbeth,
04:26:15 <Dwaan> Macbeth,
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04:27:02 <Macbeth> yes?
04:27:22 <Dwaan> how was it
04:27:41 <Macbeth> I know that this isnt going anywhere that great, but how was what?
04:27:51 <Dwaan> the lolfloods
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04:28:03 <Macbeth> Oh, that was you?
04:28:11 <Macbeth> I thought it was another network
04:28:33 <Dwaan> lol
04:28:48 <Macbeth> Eh, I've gotten worse
04:29:32 <MK_FG> Ban ban ban
04:29:42 <Macbeth> Yeap
04:29:47 <Macbeth> That's what I'm thinking
04:29:53 <Macbeth> yay, joe is op again!!
04:30:14 <MK_FG> I bet he can be anytime, it's his irds ;)
04:30:26 <Macbeth> naw, he lost his account
04:30:30 <Macbeth> he cant do anything right now
04:31:15 <MK_FG> I think it just means he's lazy to recover it, not that it's hard or impossible
04:31:24 <Macbeth> yeah, i know
04:31:34 <MK_FG> And he *was* lazy, too - now he's back to 91 ;)
04:31:50 <Macbeth> epic
04:31:57 <Macbeth> Alright, someone please ban this guy
04:32:19 <Macbeth> shit
04:33:03 <Macbeth> HES FLOODING MY PM
04:33:08 <Macbeth> BAN HIM NOW PLEASE
04:33:14 <Macbeth> MAKE HIM STOP
04:33:27 <Dwaan> huh?
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04:34:19 <Dwaan> :O
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04:34:54 <Dwaan> h
04:35:07 <Macbeth> ur gonna get banned from the network
04:35:10 <Macbeth> so do what ever you want
04:35:36 <Macbeth> MK_FG just ban him already!!
04:35:38 <Macbeth> wtf
04:36:12 <Macbeth> hes flooding my pm again, MK_FG
04:37:15 <Dwaan> dunno what you're talkin about
04:37:16 <Dwaan> lel
04:37:22 <Dwaan> also i cant get network banned
04:37:33 <Dwaan> joepie knows i will evade for ever
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04:39:23 <Dwaan> lol
04:39:25 <Dwaan> he finally caught on
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04:40:28 <Dwaan> lololol
04:40:37 <Dwaan> good job joepie91
04:41:04 <joepie91> Dwaan: quit that.
04:41:26 <Dwaan> HAHA
04:41:30 <Dwaan> se that macbeth^
04:41:34 <Dwaan> just havin some fun
04:41:37 <Dwaan> brb smoke
04:43:06 <Dwaan> joepie91: unban my znc box
04:43:12 <Dwaan> irssi is annoying
04:43:23 <joepie91> Dwaan: sure, if you stop flooding users
04:43:32 <joepie91> or channels for that matter
04:43:38 <joepie91> unless you make your own channel to flood in
04:43:38 <Dwaan> i didnt flood any chanels
04:43:42 <Dwaan> wat
04:43:56 <joepie91> Dwaan: tl;dr don't cause unsolicited trouble for other users
04:44:11 <Dwaan> one day ill make macbeth quit life
04:44:12 <joepie91> if you want to have a #lolflood then go ahead, as long as it doesn't affect anything outside that channel
04:44:20 <joepie91> and go fight out your personal vendettas elsewhere
04:44:23 <joepie91> yes?
04:44:25 <Dwaan> lol
04:44:26 <Dwaan> yes
04:44:29 <Dwaan> for now
04:44:35 <joepie91> not "for now"
04:44:39 <joepie91> I want this shit out of here
04:44:40 <joepie91> permanently
04:45:23 <joepie91> if you agree with that, then PM me the IP/host to unban, and I will
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04:47:07 <joepie91> also, Dwaan, how the hell do you manage to have 'self collisions' with your bots
04:47:16 <joepie91> like, really
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04:50:41 <KorgLakai> lol
04:52:40 <Dwaan> joepie91: running 2 instances of flooder with same nick list cos im lazy
04:52:47 <Dwaan> joepie91:
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04:53:02 <joepie91> k
04:53:13 <joepie91> done
04:53:19 <Dwaan> ^_^
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04:53:33 <Dwaaan> ahoy
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04:55:23 <Dwaaan> Macbeth: welcome back
04:55:24 <Dwaaan>
04:55:53 <Macbeth> .title
04:55:54 <botpie91> Macbeth: Scientists Invent Lightbulbs That Emit Wi-Fi | Political Blind Spot
04:55:59 <Macbeth> Nice
04:56:23 <joepie91> huh
04:56:25 <joepie91> that's actually kinda cool
04:56:31 <joepie91> and seems perfect for short-range meshnets
04:57:20 <joepie91> hoping it's accurate news
04:57:21 <joepie91> :P
04:57:28 <joepie91> reliability of that site seems... questionable
04:57:34 <Macbeth> lulz
04:57:46 <Dwaaan> yeah thats what i thought
04:57:49 <joepie91> that said
04:57:53 <Dwaaan> sounds like some nut jobs website
04:57:54 <joepie91> broken clock, twice a day, etc.
04:57:56 <Dwaaan> would be cool
04:58:30 <Dwaaan> joepie91
04:58:44 <joepie91> mm
04:58:44 <Dwaaan> know any open src hosting control panel that works with windows iis/mssql?
04:58:50 <joepie91> hm
04:58:59 <joepie91> I know one exists
04:59:02 <joepie91> but I forgot what it's called
04:59:08 <joepie91> also no idea if it's still maintained
04:59:26 <Dwaaan> hm
04:59:27 <Dwaaan> ok
05:00:16 <joepie91> Dwaaan:
05:00:18 <joepie91> it was this one I think
05:00:30 <joepie91> "WebsitePanel is a complete portal for Cloud Computing Companies and IT Providers to automate the provisioning of a full suite of services on Windows servers. The powerful, flexible open source WebsitePanel platform gives users simple point-and-click control over Windows Server applications including IIS, SQL Server, Exchange 2010, Sharepoint 2010, OCS, Lync and Hyper-V Deployments."
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05:01:25 <Dwaaan> ya just found that one
05:01:28 <Dwaaan> lookin good
05:02:08 <joepie91> I recognize the name
05:02:12 <joepie91> so it's probably the one I was thinking of :P
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05:04:20 <joepie91> wha
05:04:24 <joepie91> it's 7 AM already
05:04:26 * joepie91 needs sleep
05:06:08 <KorgLakai> What
05:06:14 <KorgLakai> p
05:06:18 <KorgLakai> up
05:06:34 * KorgLakai is drnk
05:06:38 <KorgLakai> hahahahahaa
05:07:02 <KorgLakai> d
05:07:04 <KorgLakai> r
05:07:06 <KorgLakai> u
05:07:09 <KorgLakai> n
05:07:10 <KorgLakai> k
05:07:20 <KorgLakai> :)
05:07:28 <Macbeth> Don't do anything that you're going to think was a bad idea tomorrow
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05:52:25 <Dwaaan> h
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05:52:50 <Macbeth> Is there something special about "h" or does it mean "hello"?
05:53:09 <Dwaaan> it is a greeting
05:53:15 <Macbeth> Oh, alrigt
05:53:16 <Dwaaan> it is not hello
05:53:17 <Macbeth> awesome
05:53:20 <Dwaaan> lol
05:53:38 <Macbeth> dammit
05:53:51 <Macbeth> i got punched in the jaw and i cant even chew
05:54:07 <Topiary> ...
05:57:06 <Dwaaan> lol
05:57:07 <Dwaaan> why
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05:57:37 <Macbeth> I was playing soccer
05:57:41 <Macbeth> Went for the ball
05:57:48 <Macbeth> Someone else wanted it too....
05:58:07 <Macbeth> We ran into each other
05:58:08 <Macbeth> hard
05:58:38 <Macbeth> He didn't mean do, but I got punched in the jaw off to one side
05:58:52 <Topiary> lol
05:59:02 <Topiary> gws
05:59:23 <Macbeth> I don't know what that means
05:59:26 <Dwaaan> how old are you
05:59:37 <Macbeth> It's not a kids league.
05:59:46 <Macbeth> I'll just say that
06:00:32 <Topiary> Macbeth, we thot u were 9 ><
06:00:38 <Topiary> soz
06:00:39 <Dwaaan> why is everyone so secretive about it lol
06:00:41 <Dwaaan> nobody cares
06:00:47 <Dwaaan> i answer anything
06:01:14 <Macbeth> What is your IP, name, address, phone number, social security, bank numbers, hair color, and gender?
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06:01:28 <Dwaaan> ok most things
06:01:29 <Dwaaan> lol
06:01:30 <Topiary> but Dwaaan even if we told the truth how wld u know its true?
06:01:37 <Dwaaan> everyone knows my real name
06:01:40 <Dwaaan> and location
06:01:46 <Dwaaan> and age
06:02:15 <Macbeth> Really?
06:02:21 <Macbeth> What's your real name?
06:02:24 <Macbeth> Location?
06:02:26 <Macbeth> Age?
06:02:31 <Dwaaan> dylan
06:02:33 <Dwaaan> perth
06:02:35 <Dwaaan> 18
06:03:08 <Topiary> dylans a nice name..for a nice boy..but ur not nice D:
06:03:13 <Topiary> hahaha
06:03:20 <Dwaaan> :(
06:03:34 <Macbeth> Be nice :L
06:03:41 <Topiary> u r Dwaan right? lol
06:03:46 <Topiary> with double a
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07:07:04 <ack> h
07:07:18 <Thetalkinghedge> h
07:07:47 <Macbeth> h
07:08:08 <Thetalkinghedge> standard greeting nowadays :D
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07:11:36 <ack> theres all sort of funny people in here
07:11:40 <ack> more like,
07:11:42 <ack> dicks
07:11:53 <Dwaan> ddos coming faggot
07:12:10 <ack> lolo hi Dwaan
07:12:27 <Dwaan> yo br
07:12:29 <Macbeth> ha ha, hey Dwaan
07:13:06 <Dwaan> oi
07:13:29 <Macbeth> If you're having code problems, I feel bad for you son. I've got 99 problems, but a glitch ain't one!
07:14:12 <Dwaan> i lold
07:14:26 <Macbeth> hahaha
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07:21:23 <Dwaan> mama
07:21:26 <ack> hello mama
07:21:53 <Macbeth>
07:21:55 <Macbeth> .title
07:21:55 <botpie91> Macbeth: Disarm Wednesday? - Imgur
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07:27:18 <Macbeth>
07:27:21 <Macbeth> .title
07:27:21 <botpie91> Macbeth: When my gf wants me to share food with her. - Imgur
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07:35:30 <mama> Dwaan :)
07:35:39 <mama> hello ack
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07:36:13 <Macbeth>
07:36:14 <Macbeth> .title
07:36:15 <botpie91> Macbeth: I remember the terrable days of AOL - Imgur
07:39:55 <Macbeth> This made me happy:
07:39:56 <Macbeth>
07:39:58 <Macbeth> .title
07:39:58 <botpie91> Macbeth: All This Bouncing Happens In Just Few Microseconds - Imgur
07:43:01 <Macbeth>
07:43:03 <Macbeth> .title
07:43:03 <botpie91> Macbeth: The best way to make friends... - Imgur
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09:13:09 <ShadowDemon> Macbeth, did you end up enjoying the Library?
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09:22:42 <Thetalkinghedge> youre beautiful
09:23:13 <Thetalkinghedge> youre beautiful
09:23:23 <Thetalkinghedge> youre beautiful
09:23:28 <Thetalkinghedge> its true
09:23:44 <Macbeth> Are you here to spam?
09:23:57 <Macbeth> Because /ignore is a very easy cmd that will fix it
09:24:03 <Thetalkinghedge> i saw your face
09:24:13 <Thetalkinghedge> in a crowded place
09:24:17 <Macbeth> Alright, /ignore it is
09:24:35 <Macbeth> ShadowDemon: I havnt done it yet
09:24:42 <Macbeth> I'm still figureing out the network
09:24:46 <Macbeth> I have a plan
09:24:51 <Macbeth> 1) Send the pop up
09:24:55 <Macbeth> If its not fixed, 2
09:25:05 <Macbeth> 2) power all the computers down
09:25:18 <Macbeth> if tht doesnt make them upgrage the sec, 3
09:25:27 <Thetalkinghedge> and i dont know what to do
09:25:32 <Macbeth> 3) fuck one of the computers with del boot.ini
09:25:38 <Macbeth> if that doesnt work, 4
09:26:00 <Macbeth> 4) send a virus to every one of the systems and drop the network
09:26:40 <Macbeth> If that doesnt work, then the network is being run by a secret group of robots that know everything and know how to block against every sort of attack possible and nothing can get past them
09:26:41 <Thetalkinghedge> cause ill never be with u
09:27:02 <Macbeth> But if that's not the case, then YOU KNOW U LOOKIN AT A WINNAH, WINNAH, WINNAH! COS IM A WINNAH! YEA IM A WINNAH!!
09:27:43 <Thetalkinghedge> yeah she caught my eye
09:28:09 <Thetalkinghedge> as we walked on by
09:28:51 <Thetalkinghedge> she could see from my face that i was flying high
09:29:14 <Thetalkinghedge> and i dont think ill see her again
09:29:35 <Thetalkinghedge> but we shared a moment
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09:29:55 <Thetalkinghedge> that will last till the end
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10:47:59 <iceTwy> MK_FG: russkieeeeeeeeeeee
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12:29:03 <Dwaan> yes
12:29:04 <Dwaan> hello
12:39:21 <R0y4lty> iceTwy is geh
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13:51:16 <ack> I like to take a toothbrush and stick it in my anus
13:52:03 <Thetalkinghedge> poor toothbrush
13:53:57 <cayce> poor anus
13:54:18 <Thetalkinghedge> no cayce dont feel sorry for his anus!
13:54:34 <cayce> I'll do as I please
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14:19:07 <DrWhat> cayce you scared him away :(
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14:24:55 <DrWhat> .lookup
14:24:56 <botpie91> DNS records for
14:24:57 <botpie91> SOA: 1382624671 1800 900 604800 86400
14:25:52 <DrWhat> .lookup
14:25:53 <botpie91> DNS records for
14:25:54 <botpie91> SOA: 1382624733 1800 900 604800 86400
14:26:31 <DrWhat> .whois
14:26:32 <botpie91> TypeError: expected string or buffer (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/", line 137, in match)
14:26:40 <DrWhat> .whois
14:26:40 <botpie91> The domain does not seem to exist.
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14:46:14 <Raymii> Is joepie91 around?
14:59:20 <vld> not now, he should awake soon
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15:38:56 <MK_FG> .title
15:38:56 <botpie91> Can't connect to
15:39:17 <MK_FG> Oh well
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16:08:01 <joepie91> MK_FG: Yes.
16:08:06 <joepie91> also
16:08:06 <joepie91> .tw joepie91
16:08:06 <botpie91> John Pike, the "Occupy pepperspray cop", awarded $38,056 in trauma compensation - more than his victims (@joepie91)
16:08:53 <MK_FG> Yeah, society also ruined poor bastard's life
16:10:55 <joepie91> MK_FG: eh, I have no sympathy for him
16:11:15 <joepie91> that is entirely a consequence of his own decision to assault people
16:13:16 <MK_FG> Dunno, I don't really know all the details and definitely didn't see his side of story
16:14:16 <MK_FG> Maybe people there killed his dog, threatened to rape his wife and were insufferable assholes, while he atm was in very bad emotional state and just lost his shit and really sorry 'bout it... dunno
16:14:24 <joepie91> MK_FG;
16:14:26 <joepie91> have a watch
16:14:36 <joepie91> those are the details
16:14:36 <MK_FG> But I have to admit to not looking into it past headlines at all ;)
16:15:03 <joepie91> MK_FG: be sure to watch the video
16:15:05 <joepie91> of the incident
16:16:39 <MK_FG> There were 2 cops doing that, apparently
16:17:11 <MK_FG> And others weren't too keen on stopping them at all
16:17:26 <MK_FG> Like, not going "dude, what the fuck?"
16:17:36 <captainobvious> hence acab
16:17:49 <MK_FG> Thanx, cap :P
16:17:59 <captainobvious> yw :)
16:19:01 <joepie91> captainobvious: no, that's bullshit
16:20:02 <joepie91> MK_FG: I am absolutely not disputing that the other cops there should have been held accountable
16:20:15 <joepie91> that however doesn't change that I feel absolutely no sympathy for someone that assaults people like this
16:20:29 <joepie91> very clearly in a demonstrative manner
16:20:39 <joepie91> as if to say "here, this is what happens if you protest"
16:21:27 <MK_FG> Weeell, poor bastard clearly fell in with the bad crowd
16:21:43 <captainobvious>
16:21:59 <MK_FG> If you're surrounded by assholes like that 15h/day, you can get my pity ;)
16:22:22 <MK_FG> And whatever goodie person you were before will definitely be gone after years working there
16:22:44 <joepie91> MK_FG: if he can't cope with it, then he shouldn't have taken that job
16:23:11 <MK_FG> Assuming there was much of a choice and it isn't "boil the frog" process
16:23:26 <joepie91> MK_FG: police forces have been around for god knows how long
16:23:42 <joepie91> it's quite well documented how they function internally
16:24:04 <joepie91> boil the frog only works if everyone affected is in the same situation at once
16:24:27 <MK_FG> Not really, they invented ranks for that
16:24:47 <MK_FG> I.e. you join at the bottom rank and get min exposure...
16:25:15 <MK_FG> ...then you get exposed and advance to higher rank, with uglier assholes
16:25:34 <MK_FG> And if exposure doesn't bend you, you're stuck on low rank or out
16:26:02 <MK_FG> So imho looks plausible that one won't be quick to notice the effect
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16:29:44 <MK_FG> Also, I think you can't be in constant contact with genuinely bad people (i.e. murderers, rapists and such) and remain a good person
16:30:06 <MK_FG> Same probably goes for exposure to conflict and violence
16:34:37 <joepie91> conclusion: centralized police force doesn't work?
16:35:14 <MK_FG> Well, we have genuinely bad elements in society right now and they seem to insulate it well enough
16:35:35 <MK_FG> Plus, there seem to be distinct lack of other well-tested society models ;)
16:36:28 <joepie91> MK_FG: I don't think I'd classify something that isolates external bad things and causes bad things of its own as "working"
16:36:34 * joepie91 mumbles something about mafia
16:37:30 <MK_FG> Yeah, you have that bad stuff leaking, but in a much reduced number, like having e.g. heat leak through any not-total-vacuum insulation
16:37:52 <joepie91> MK_FG: not even sure I'd call it "much reduced number".
16:38:25 <MK_FG> There are lot of examples of what happens when centralized mediation crumbles
16:38:37 <MK_FG> All the hot points in the world, e.g. Somalia now
16:38:55 <MK_FG> Basically, tribal societies, with all tribes at war with all others
16:39:28 <MK_FG> You need larger tribe (with more powerful force) to sit others at the table and make peace
16:39:38 <MK_FG> That's one thing that works, apparently
16:39:46 <arpunk> im sorry, but thats facist
16:40:17 <MK_FG> Worked throught the history - all countries now were at some point united that way
16:40:36 <MK_FG> Fascist or not, dunno what to call it
16:44:13 <dragondaksh> why this link is not working?
16:44:38 <joepie91> MK_FG: leaving the point about tribes/somalia undiscussed (because quite honestly, I don't really have time for that right now), right now we're stuck with a giant 'tribe' at the top, with zero chance at proper protest because every single protest is killed off by police/riot forces - at least when there's chaos, everyone KNOWS that shit is wrong
16:44:52 <joepie91> I'm really not sure I'd consider this any better than the scenario you are sketching
16:45:06 <joepie91> dragondaksh: probably because is dead and the site is terribly outdated :P
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16:45:43 <dragondaksh> okay
16:45:44 <dragondaksh> okay
16:45:46 <dragondaksh> okay
16:47:06 <MK_FG> joepie91, I do consider it better, if you want to live in Somalia or Russian suburbia (where law basically doesn't have power) - be my guest :P
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17:05:42 <mama> joepie91: i read your warning and i am disappointed, please find a sentence where i am not nice
17:06:31 <mama> i still polite even agressed and insulted by DrWhat
17:06:47 <Power2All> Oh hai.
17:07:07 <DrWhat> I anger you :(
17:07:21 <mama> if there are other reasons to be not welcomed here, better avoid hypocrisy and tell me what
17:07:25 <Power2All>
17:07:30 <Power2All> ;)
17:07:30 <mama> Hello Power2All :)
17:07:33 <Power2All> Hey mama
17:07:36 <Power2All> ERB ftw
17:08:01 <mama> DrWhat: anger is not a reason to use words like: fed, fu and bitch
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17:10:17 <dragondaksh> If someone hates you, then give him a reason ......
17:10:34 <mama> me?
17:10:59 <dragondaksh> If someone hates you without any reason, then give him a reason  ........
17:12:11 <mama> hate from others is their problem, not mine, i don't have personal feelings towards any one, only opinions and positions
17:12:34 <mama> i can't defend my person, i only can explain my positions
17:13:29 <Power2All> We can always delete people.
17:13:38 <Power2All> Just the tools are, not accepted xD
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17:14:13 <mama> haha right! i usually delete them from my mind; i have many tools for it XD
17:14:27 <Power2All> Im talking about, the weapons that wipe out your life
17:14:28 <Power2All> Litterally xD
17:14:51 <joepie91> ran across this by accident:
17:14:52 <mama> owwwwww
17:14:55 <Power2All> haha
17:14:56 <joepie91> quite interesting
17:15:04 <joepie91> <mama>joepie91: i read your warning and i am disappointed, please find a sentence where i am not nice
17:15:11 <joepie91> I was refering to your constant bringing up of anon
17:15:17 <joepie91> and not taking me seriously when I tell you that it is against the rules
17:15:25 <joepie91> you're constantly pushing it by bringing it up anyway
17:15:35 <Power2All> I code my own PHP framework..
17:15:40 <Power2All> With caching.
17:15:43 <Power2All> And everything.
17:16:06 <Power2All> Although,right now Im using smarty, since its easy in use for small projects.
17:16:24 <Power2All> Its not like Im gonna code a new fagbook.
17:16:24 <mama> joepie91: honestly, i often forget this rule, then when you talk i remember and dk how to react :s
17:16:35 <joepie91> mama: my logs say otherwise
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17:16:46 <joepie91> moment
17:17:03 <Power2All> Who cares about Anon.. It's now all about Black Piet.
17:17:07 <Power2All> \xD
17:17:09 <mama> ok, show me
17:17:19 <joepie91> mama:
17:17:33 <joepie91> in particular this bit:
17:17:34 <joepie91> 15:59:14 <mama> ;)
17:17:41 <joepie91> that doesn't exactly say "oh sorry I forgot"
17:17:58 <joepie91> and honestly, after several months (!) of these rules existing, you should be remembering these rules
17:18:16 <joepie91> I've reminded you of it more times than I have fingers to count with
17:18:33 <mama> yep, but it was the case, i forgot and then reacted like "it is done now, i can't delete it"
17:19:04 <Power2All> Whats not allowed ? Talking about anonymous ?
17:19:13 <joepie91> mama: I still don't get the idea that you're taking it seriously.
17:19:17 <mama> joepie91: believe it or not, sometimes i am so focused on something that i don't even thing to rules
17:19:18 <joepie91> Power2All: correct, see channel topic
17:19:20 <Power2All> Ah ok.
17:19:28 <Power2All> I dont even care about them anymore..
17:19:29 <joepie91> mama: then you should really change that
17:19:29 <Power2All> Only kids..
17:19:42 <mama> joepie91: ok
17:19:43 <joepie91> because I can't let an entire channel go down the drain because you don't pay mind to the rules
17:20:00 <joepie91> if necessary, change to a client where the channel topic is always visible
17:20:04 <Power2All> So whats up with you joepie91 ;)
17:20:07 <joepie91> it's there for a reason
17:20:18 <Power2All> Still eating a lot of frikandelen?
17:20:21 <Power2All> xD
17:20:25 <joepie91> Power2All: not really, actually
17:20:29 <Power2All> Oh damnnnnn
17:20:30 <joepie91> still haven't moved frying pan here
17:20:32 <joepie91> it's still in storage
17:20:40 <Power2All> I see I see.
17:20:43 <mama> it is visible, the problem is when i see some one with whom i would talk; from now i will pm
17:20:46 <joepie91> anyway, mostly been doing code stuff latley
17:20:49 <Power2All> Yah same.
17:20:52 <joepie91> mama: that is a better solution
17:20:53 <joepie91> thank you
17:20:57 <Power2All> Working out a download manager for anime ;)
17:21:01 <joepie91> Power2All:
17:21:05 <joepie91> Power2All: also, did you see the isohunt thing?
17:21:09 <Power2All> PHP, close to FilePlanet's downloader
17:21:12 <Power2All> Yah, sucks.
17:21:13 <mama> thanks for your understanding
17:21:14 <joepie91> (download manager for what source?)
17:21:15 <Power2All> Screw the US
17:21:16 <Power2All> xD
17:21:21 <Power2All> Erm
17:21:22 <joepie91> Power2All: I mean the archiving effort primarily
17:21:22 <joepie91> :p
17:21:25 <Power2All> Basically, downloading anime
17:21:28 <Power2All> Via a queue basis
17:21:29 <dragondaksh> which anime?
17:21:32 <joepie91> well yes, but from where
17:21:33 <Power2All> PHp limits the upload speed
17:21:40 <Power2All> So you can give every downloader enough bandwidth space.
17:21:48 <Power2All> With a queue manager, and subscription option.
17:21:54 <Power2All> API to WordPress
17:21:56 <Power2All> and others.
17:21:59 <joepie91> also
17:21:59 <joepie91> and
17:22:04 <Power2All> Checks if a user has a subscription or not.
17:22:04 <joepie91> Power2All: from your own servers, or?
17:22:07 <Power2All> Yep
17:22:09 <Power2All> 1gbit servers.
17:22:19 <Power2All> Basically, can handle 100 users at ones, with 1MB per second.
17:22:33 <Power2All> And more people will be queued up via a flatbase DB.
17:22:42 <Power2All> Which holds all the download requests.
17:22:46 <Power2All> Servers ofcourse offshore ;)
17:23:01 <joepie91> ah
17:23:11 <Power2All> dragondaksh: Hentai and non hentai
17:23:15 <Power2All> SubDESU translates both xD
17:23:16 <MK_FG> Do anime gets people in copyright troubles? I thought it was a hollywood thing
17:23:22 <Power2All> Depends
17:23:27 <Power2All> If US bought license off Japan.
17:23:33 <Power2All> Then they try to take down the fansubbers.
17:23:42 <Power2All> Japanese companies normally dont give a shit.
17:23:48 <MK_FG> Oh, right, yeah, I heard a bit about that
17:23:51 <Power2All> Although, 1 anti-piracy company in Japan makes trouble.
17:23:57 <Power2All> But mostly it's a ignore-situation.
17:24:08 <Power2All> My torrent tracker had ones a DMCA from Funimation.
17:24:13 <Power2All> I still have it in my email xD
17:24:33 <MK_FG> As a Token of Recognition :P
17:24:36 <joepie91> .title
17:24:37 <botpie91> joepie91: Swedish bank freezes customer's account after she sells 5 BTC
17:24:37 <Power2All> Yep
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17:24:51 <Power2All> Some Dutch guys hacked bank accounts.
17:24:56 <Power2All> And bought bitcoins with em
17:24:57 <Power2All> xD
17:25:07 <Power2All> Some million of damages so I heared.
17:25:12 <joepie91> wat
17:25:16 <joepie91> I haven't heard of that
17:25:16 <Power2All> Didnt you hear ?
17:25:19 <Power2All> HAHAHA
17:25:19 <Power2All> fail xD
17:25:22 <joepie91> (it's also not at all relevant to what I linked)
17:25:27 <Power2All>
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17:25:59 <Power2All> Weird that you didn't hear xD
17:26:17 <joepie91> eh
17:26:26 <joepie91> that article doesn't say "bought bitcoins with them" anywhere
17:26:32 <Power2All> Check update
17:26:32 <joepie91> it says the money was sent to offshore bank accounts
17:26:37 <Power2All> "Update, 18:01: Informatie over mogelijke Bitcoin-exchange is toegevoegd."
17:26:44 <joepie91> yes, they *managed* a Bitcoin exchange
17:26:51 <joepie91> didn't say it had anything to do with the theft from bank accs
17:26:53 <Power2All> Oh, meh, I read it rly quick.
17:26:57 <Power2All> And heared it on TV tbh.
17:27:12 <Power2All> Probably didnt hear it correct on TV
17:27:22 <MK_FG> Heh, "hackers" and "bitcoin" in one headline
17:27:26 <MK_FG> That's a gem
17:27:30 <MK_FG> (for tv, that is)
17:27:32 <Power2All> meh its more using malware.
17:28:02 <Power2All> But the bank security are getting outdated more and more.
17:28:08 <joepie91> Power2All: doesn't seem there was a relationship between the exchange and the theft -at all-...
17:28:19 <Power2All> You dont know joepie91
17:28:25 <Power2All> Maybe it did.
17:28:29 <Power2All> They still investigating.
17:28:32 <joepie91> keyword: seem
17:28:41 <dragondaksh> maybe
17:28:44 <joepie91> and innocent until proven otherwise etc. etc.
17:28:47 <Power2All> Then highlight that
17:28:48 <Power2All> xD
17:28:56 <joepie91> so unless shown otherwise, I am assuming no relationship
17:28:56 <Power2All> Yah, unlike US
17:28:59 <MK_FG> C'mon, news sound cooler with btc in them
17:29:03 <Power2All> gulty unless proven innocent.
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17:29:34 <dpk> HIIIII
17:29:38 <dpk> now with moar dpk
17:29:43 <dpk> yo joepie91
17:29:54 <joepie91> ohai dpk
17:29:57 <Power2All> Anyway, im going afk, need to go practice with my orchestra
17:29:59 <Power2All> Ciao :)
17:30:04 <joepie91> Power2All: have fun
17:30:06 <Power2All> thx
17:30:07 <IR601> band geek
17:30:26 <dragondaksh> see u power2all
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17:38:35 <joepie91> MK_FG:
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17:48:14 <MK_FG> Finally they'll be able to embed full bible into blockchain :P
17:48:46 * joepie92 sighs at eligius
17:49:16 <joepie92> oh well
17:49:32 <joepie92> perhaps when this goes through, the rest of the world can prune Eligius' ramblings from the blockchain
17:50:07 <MK_FG> Heh, well, older embeddings were keys, so no such luck
17:50:26 <joepie92> MK_FG: I mean the newer ones
17:50:50 <MK_FG> Does it also mean that bitmessage is now obsolete?
17:51:03 <MK_FG> One msg in btc can cost as low as 1 satoshi
17:51:14 <MK_FG> ...which seem cheap for now
17:51:48 <MK_FG> Heh, though 80 char (ascii) limit is even more fun than twitter's
17:58:00 <MK_FG> I wonder if there are already tools to sign packages into blockchain
17:58:48 <MK_FG> Like, say on site "project's key is X" and embed "project-1.2.3.tar.gz <hash>" into blockchain
17:59:17 <MK_FG> If anyone tries to forge project-1.2.3.tar.gz, should be obvious from blockchain and can be stated on project site
17:59:57 <MK_FG> (and detectable by very presence of two different hashes in blockchain, so user can be warned and do extra checks for key)
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20:06:52 <joepie92> impressive code fuckup
20:06:53 <joepie92>
20:07:00 <joepie92> notice the stray else? I didn't :|
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20:07:13 <joepie92> and I was wondering why my changes weren't applied....
20:19:38 <lysobit> joepie92, do you ever use unit tests?
20:20:38 <joepie92> lysobit: no
20:20:59 <joepie92> and before anyone gets the idea of trying to convince me to do so, don't bother
20:21:23 <lysobit> Just wondering if I should bother
20:21:31 <lysobit> What if it's an open source project?
20:21:42 <lysobit> Or a collaborative project?
20:22:10 <joepie92> lysobit; I personally choose to do real world testing rather than unit testing; that is, trying to actively use the application myself and trying to use it in strange ways, and having others give feedback
20:22:11 <lysobit> I particularly say this after reading
20:22:18 <lysobit> "First off, CryptoCat's engineering practices look bad to me. It seems that CryptoCat team just throws together things until it works then move on. They have, let me count, exactly 4 tests for the whole program."
20:22:18 <joepie92> unit tests miss any non-atomic problem
20:22:28 <joepie92> lysobit: cryptography is a very different topic
20:22:33 <joepie92> whatever I say now does not apply to cryptography
20:22:50 <joepie92> anyway, as I said, unit tests miss non-atomic issues
20:23:06 <joepie92> as an extra problem, they're incredibly boring to write, which is a very good way to kill off motivation
20:23:14 <joepie92> and they take a lot of extra time
20:23:31 <joepie92> (to write)
20:23:39 <vld> they can also catch some problems
20:24:14 <lysobit> Do you think unit tests would be essential for the keypair project I'm working on, given that all cryptographic implementations are done by another library?
20:24:36 <joepie92> lysobit: that depends
20:24:52 <lysobit> on
20:24:54 <joepie92> if you have separate identity management, then you will want to make sure that you have automated tests, verifying that identities are indeed kept separate
20:24:55 <joepie92> for example
20:25:25 <joepie92> real world testing instead of unit testing works only for things where you can say, afterwards, "oh sorry, let me fix that and you can try again"
20:25:35 <joepie92> which is the majority of things, but not things like crypto or anonymity
20:25:45 <joepie92> where one mistake is fatal
20:26:35 <lysobit> From my understanding though, unit tests are designed to test individual methods
20:26:45 <lysobit> It's not as if there's a "method" for keeping identities seperate
20:26:58 <lysobit> Rather than it is a design feature of the application
20:27:16 <joepie92> no, but you can make certain assertions to ensure that they are kept separate
20:27:23 <joepie92> depending on the design of your application
20:27:37 <joepie92> that does however touch on the other problem with unit testing
20:27:45 <joepie92> you still can't test the things you didn't think of
20:28:12 <joepie92> unit testing isn't magical fairy dust
20:29:57 <arpunk> insightful, i've always considered unit tests as one method for testing, and there should be several (depending on your app design and stack)
20:30:38 <arpunk> yet i see unit test predominant in technology stacks where the programming language is dynamic
20:30:46 <lysobit> Just debating with myself if it's something that I should actually worry about
20:30:47 <joepie92> arpunk: ideally, yes, you should have multiple testing methods
20:31:00 <joepie92> and if it's something with some form of end user UI, you absolutely *must* have real world testing
20:31:07 <joepie92> to give an example
20:31:08 <lysobit> actually seems that Cryptocat only started unit testing 4 months ago
20:31:13 <joepie92> I'm pretty sure Twitter has unit tests
20:31:23 <joepie92> yet it's still really buggy
20:31:30 <joepie92> not because things inherently don't -work-
20:31:38 <joepie92> but because they don't work as you expect
20:31:42 <joepie92> or how they work suddenly changes
20:31:53 <joepie92> those are things a unit test won't catch
20:31:59 <lysobit> Unit tests are I think essential for large teams
20:32:04 <arpunk> you mean some sort of "requirement testing"? like BDD?
20:32:07 <lysobit> or large projects
20:32:56 <joepie92> arpunk; I really suck at acronyms/terminology/etc., but what I mean is "run the application and try to break it and do stupid shit, and then give it to one or more end users and let them do the same"
20:33:12 <joepie92> human chaos monkey, really
20:33:27 <joepie92> Facebook for example, actually does this
20:33:46 <joepie92> iirc they have a grouping mechanism where certain groups of users get served a different version of the site entirely
20:33:52 <joepie92> with one or more changed features
20:34:00 <joepie92> and their behaviour is analyzed
20:34:05 <joepie92> to find points of confusion or bugs
20:34:29 <joepie92> these are basically random users
20:35:16 <arpunk> ah, i get you now, i've used to deal with some testing like that: you were supposed to describe the real world scenario, and that description gets parsed with some sort of DSL to automate stuff up, like cucumber for ruby:
20:35:28 <arpunk> is that close to what you meant?
20:35:58 <joepie92> that seems like a more automated version of things
20:36:26 <joepie92> I'm primarily a webdev, and in the webdev world the more common approach is to literally just ship development versions to a subset of your users quietly
20:36:34 <joepie92> using click/movement/interaction tracking scripts to record interaction
20:37:15 <joepie92> basically, you have actual users test-dummying it
20:37:23 <arpunk> yea, that works best imo
20:37:37 <arpunk> is a real battle test
20:37:49 <joepie92> it's basically the large-scale version of peering over a users shoulder and watching them use something :)
20:37:50 <joepie92> indeed
20:37:59 <joepie92> arpunk: I presume you're familiar with the concept of a chaos monkey also?
20:38:20 <joepie92>
20:38:31 <joepie92> simple script, randomly kills or tries to break shit
20:38:42 <joepie92> to see how well your stuff copes with it
20:39:15 <arpunk> no, have not seen the concept, but it seems like a good read
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20:43:18 <arpunk> yes, multiple testing layers
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21:07:34 <R0y4lty> Oh great.
21:07:42 <R0y4lty> Just had a nice chat with the cops.
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22:17:56 <R0y4lty> and I'm back.
22:26:05 <vld> aww
22:26:11 <R0y4lty> vld, it sucks.
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22:36:36 <tommykaine> hey guys
22:42:51 <iceTwy> looooooool
22:43:03 <iceTwy> I'll just leave this here
22:43:10 <iceTwy>
22:43:12 <iceTwy> .title
22:43:13 <botpie91> iceTwy: Wat — Destroy All Software Talks
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22:44:58 <tommykaine> lol
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22:54:51 <joepie92> iceTwy: watch his other talk
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23:04:45 <R0y4lty> x
23:04:49 <R0y4lty> xmpp, quickly
23:05:36 <x> y
23:06:15 <R0y4lty> its important
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