Cryto! 18 October 2013

00:00:09 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Salmon soup is awesome. Has some bok choy in it, sesame oil, soysauce, and a few noodles. Fucking NOMtastic!
00:06:42 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: I'm missing the... salmon
00:06:44 <joepie91> in your description
00:06:45 <joepie91> lol
00:14:57 <wh1t3r4bb1t> lol
00:15:36 <Zoned> lol
00:15:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t> It's insinuated previously. Therefore I felt that mentioning it again would be redundant.
00:19:20 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Only 19 more console errors to debug. Yay!
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00:37:28 <wh1t3r4bb1t> If someone farts in the middle of the forest, and there isn't anyone there to hear it, does it make a sound? Wait a...
01:03:40 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: there is, since the internet and youtube
01:03:49 <joepie91> :(
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01:06:07 <Mabo> hi there
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01:37:02 <cayce> this is neat
01:37:56 <cayce> framing it as semiotics makes what twitter has been doing make SO MUCH MORE SENSE
01:41:44 <cayce> oh wow
01:41:49 <cayce> so here's a keen bit of information
01:41:56 <cayce> amazon has owned imdb since 1998.
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01:44:09 <cayce> it's literally getting hard to track how many companies amazon owns
01:45:10 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Writing your own framework into an existing project  (your own) is challenging. MFW
01:45:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t> cayce!
01:45:50 <cayce> wh1t3r4bb1t:) yes!
01:46:02 <cayce> yes hi hello
01:46:35 <cayce> fuckin
01:46:43 <cayce> google spent 10 billion dollars in the last 3 months
01:46:46 <wh1t3r4bb1t> The whole gang is here. We should have a party! >.<
01:47:00 <cayce> it generated $14.89 billion in consolidated revenue and $2.97 billion in net income
01:47:18 <cayce> almost 11bn
01:47:19 <cayce> jeez
01:47:44 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I want .5 of those billions. How get?
01:47:55 <cayce> fuckin
01:48:07 <cayce> I can't even believe their stock is 888$
01:48:10 <cayce> jesus fucking christ
01:48:24 <cayce> I told my mom in 2001 when they ipo'd that she should put our only 500$ into them
01:48:33 <cayce> but noooooo an 11 year old has no idea what they're talking about
01:48:49 <cayce> and those shares have split twice
01:49:08 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Old people will be the earth's demise.
01:49:58 <cayce> 85$ per share on ipo day, so that'd net us 6 shares
01:50:34 <cayce> 6->12->24, assuming no additional purchases, 24x888=21312$
01:50:57 <cayce> not fucking shabby
01:51:28 <cayce> round down to 20 for inflation
01:51:34 <joepie91> no
01:51:39 <joepie91> don't start having conversations
01:51:40 <cayce> minus taxes, still looking at 18
01:51:43 <joepie91> when I'm about to sleep
01:51:44 <joepie91> D:
01:51:54 <cayce> joepie91:) but, like, I just got home from class
01:51:59 <cayce> and I have mexican coke
01:52:06 <cayce> which is DELICIOUS
01:52:35 <cayce> (usa coke is made with corn syrup, mexican coke is the same but made with actual sugar)
01:52:40 <joepie91> cayce: right
01:52:41 <joepie91> but!
01:52:44 <joepie91> sleep!
01:52:44 <joepie91> night!
01:52:49 <cayce> night joepie91 :)
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01:53:59 <cayce> I'm really excited that amazon sells batteries for 8.17 per 20
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02:02:01 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Night joepie91
02:17:56 <cayce> NP: [LMFAO - I'm In Miami Bitch] [Party Rock] [854kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
02:18:48 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I need two small (50 line or less) files converted from x-tmpl to javascript and html files respectively. Can anyone help?
02:23:33 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Fuck me sideways. I don't even know what I'm talking about... What I really need is to load these files from an external source.
02:23:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Think I got it though.
02:54:24 <wh1t3r4bb1t> That was the easy part... Now I need to figure out where the page is fucking up and putting thing in the wrong order.
02:59:55 <cayce> fucking shit why is the new java 132mb
03:00:45 <cayce> better be a copy of oracle's db software in there, jeez
03:11:25 <cayce> worst idea ever, I'm updating ubuntu on launch day
03:11:44 <cayce> all 1337mb of it
03:11:56 <cayce> (not kidding, and it's totally the reason I'm updating)
03:13:25 <MK_FG> Heh, isn't it also win8.1 lauch day?
03:24:08 <cayce> yeah
03:24:37 <cayce> big day :)
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06:06:25 <Macbeth> Hai
06:07:50 <Macbeth> Noone is on?! Seriously?
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07:36:01 <norbert79> I am online :)
07:36:21 <norbert79> Well, Macbeth waited an hour long, but I just arrived
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07:40:35 <Macbeth> joepie91
07:40:36 <Macbeth> ?
07:40:46 <Macbeth> not on? ill come back l8r
07:40:48 <Macbeth> bai all
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07:44:44 <x> lol
07:46:30 <norbert79> For f... sake
07:46:37 <norbert79> 28 seconds
07:46:38 <norbert79> :)
07:46:54 <norbert79> Macbeth: Hello, I am here, but you are not, so sucks to be you!
08:09:03 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft!
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10:53:06 <iceTwy> le ping
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11:23:15 <norbert79> wh1t3r4bb1t: Too bad, that that word won't exist according to the renewed grammar laws from 1998:)
11:40:35 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
11:40:35 <loggy>
11:41:42 <joepie91> botpie91, tell Macbeth to have more patience when asking whether someone's here or not, next time; also,
11:41:43 <botpie91> joepie91: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
11:45:00 <vld> botpie91, tell Macbeth to ignore the previous message
11:45:01 <botpie91> vld: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
11:46:07 <joepie91> botpie91, tell Macbeth to ignore anything vld says
11:46:07 <botpie91> joepie91: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
11:46:08 <joepie91> :D
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11:46:32 <joepie92> botpie91, tell Macbeth to ignore anything I say. I'm drunk;
11:46:33 <botpie91> joepie92: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
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11:54:22 <joepie91> ....
11:54:35 <joepie91> botpie91, tell Macbeth that 'joepie92' was actually vld pretending to be me
11:54:36 <botpie91> joepie91: I'll pass that on when Macbeth is around.
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16:05:46 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03isohunt-grab on branch 10master: '02This isn't blip' (
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17:21:21 <DrWhat> And im back
17:21:23 <DrWhat> safe
17:21:26 <DrWhat> home
17:21:30 <DrWhat> col :/
17:21:34 <DrWhat> cold*
17:21:55 <DrWhat> Who want to template my cryptbin?
17:21:59 <DrWhat> Im shit at this type of stuff
17:22:15 <DrWhat>
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17:34:35 <joepie91> DrWhat: booo
17:34:51 <DrWhat> is that a bad boo?
17:34:55 <joepie91> yes
17:34:56 <joepie91> server-side encryption = bad!
17:35:12 <joepie91> :P
17:35:24 <DrWhat> IDC
17:35:30 <DrWhat> its encrypted
17:37:15 <DrWhat> After all
17:37:18 <DrWhat> its is explained as
17:37:19 <DrWhat> Simple encrypted paste bin (Server stored)
17:37:33 <joepie91> I know :P
17:47:36 <DrWhat> joepie91 is it good so far
17:47:44 <DrWhat> Oh dear mighty one :D
17:54:01 <DrWhat>
17:54:09 <DrWhat> That is a very useful class :D
17:54:11 <DrWhat> i love it
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18:51:28 <cayce> joepie91:) you awake? :)
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18:57:30 <joepie91> cayce: yes
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19:02:32 <iceTwy> hola
19:03:22 <joepie91> ohai iceTwy
19:05:07 <cayce> hmm
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19:18:37 <cayce> so hot
19:19:00 <cayce> 35w dualcore with hyperthreading and aes-ni
19:19:19 <cayce> now THAT is an upgrade path for my box
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19:30:55 <Zoned> Fuck sakes
19:31:04 <Zoned> joepie91, the zoned you saw above was not me.
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19:31:46 <Zoned> fucking intangdick
19:35:00 <Zoned> --> Note: This account will no longer be used on crytocc irc server, this account is compermised.
19:35:06 <Zoned> Do not believe anything stated by this account.
19:35:28 <joepie91> I have no idea what you're refering to, tbh
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19:35:35 <vld> ^?
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19:37:00 <Xabby> joepie91, xmpp
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19:52:55 <DrWhat> .btc
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19:52:58 <DrWhat> .bitcoin
19:52:58 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $151.94, 1 BTC = €118.00
19:53:09 <DrWhat> ^_^
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20:20:23 <iceTwy> ping?
20:20:47 <joepie91> iceTwy: pong!
20:21:52 <iceTwy> joepie91: DANKE SCHONNNNNNNNN
20:21:55 <iceTwy> mein freund
20:23:20 <joepie91> iceTwy: that was an uncannily enthusiastic "thank you" for a pong
20:23:21 <joepie91> lol
20:23:46 <iceTwy> lmao
20:26:22 <joepie91> iceTwy: protip
20:26:27 <joepie91> /whois yourownnickname
20:26:33 <cayce> huh, so adobe is in advertising
20:26:36 <joepie91> if you get a response, your connection is still alive
20:26:39 <joepie91> cayce: mmm?
20:26:47 <cayce> well, they own omniture
20:26:53 <cayce> that's old news though
20:27:04 <cayce> they've been launching products based on that acquisition though
20:27:09 <cayce> such as "adobe tag manager"
20:27:11 <iceTwy> joepie91: protip accepted
20:27:23 * cayce picks apart requestpolicy output
20:27:23 <joepie91> iceTwy: :P
20:27:26 <joepie91> I use this often
20:27:27 <iceTwy> joepie91: ;p
20:27:29 <joepie91> (GOSH GUESS WHY)
20:27:37 <iceTwy> (OH NO I DUNNO WHY)
20:27:37 <cayce>
20:27:38 <joepie91> also, /me is currently making food for 5 dinners
20:27:40 <joepie91> or 6
20:27:53 <iceTwy> cookpie91?
20:27:57 <iceTwy> :P
20:28:05 <cayce> yes
20:28:08 <cayce> cookpie <3
20:28:13 <cayce> HAI COOKPIE
20:28:16 * cayce waves
20:28:45 <iceTwy> lol. grandpa joepie91 cooking stuff
20:28:52 <iceTwy> that's how I pictured him a sec ago
20:29:02 <cayce> REALLY
20:29:08 <iceTwy> also, zomFGGGGGGGGGGGGGG EARGASM
20:29:10 <iceTwy> NP: Mata Hari by Intervals - from In Time (2012)
20:29:11 <cayce> atdmt is microsoft
20:29:26 <cayce> I see that tracker on so many pages
20:29:45 <cayce> "atlas solutions", a msft subsidiary
20:30:01 <cayce> aaaaand now it's a facebook subsidiary
20:30:03 <cayce> bought this spring
20:30:06 <cayce> wat
20:30:21 <cayce> Atlas Solutions is a subsidiary of Facebook, acquired from Microsoft in February, 2013,
20:30:27 <cayce> all of my wat
20:30:31 <iceTwy> oh my goooooood
20:30:34 <iceTwy>
20:30:35 <iceTwy> earfuckinggasm
20:30:59 <iceTwy> this god damn EP is amazing
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20:44:50 <joepie91>
20:44:51 <joepie91> cookpie
20:44:55 <joepie91> cc iceTwy cayce
20:45:34 <cayce> milk! it comes in bags!
20:48:55 <joepie91> cayce: hmm?
20:49:28 <cayce> bags of food o.o
20:51:07 <joepie91> cayce: yes
20:51:10 <joepie91> vacuumpacked
20:51:19 <joepie91> take a bag, throw it into a pan of hot water
20:51:22 <joepie91> 5 minutes later, bam, food
20:51:27 <cayce> neat
20:51:30 <joepie91> no microwave necessary
20:51:35 <joepie91> these bags are heat-resistant :P
20:53:22 <cayce> man, what the hell
20:53:23 <cayce>
20:53:24 <vld> are those dildos on the bed?
20:53:29 <cayce> "Through our applications, Gravity understands people's interests so that our partners can create more relevant experiences for their users. Our proprietary ontology and natural language processing algorithms enable us to extract interests from structured and unstructured content with a high degree of accuracy and to systematically build high-precision Interest Graphs for people."
21:10:55 <cayce> huh, looks like amazon runs an ad network too
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21:25:59 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03weechat-deadbeef on branch 10master: '02And that's the real first commit.' (
21:26:29 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03weechat-deadbeef on branch 10master: '02First commit' (
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21:47:40 <botpie91> 04iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to 03weechat-deadbeef on branch 10master: '02Options configuration info' (
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21:53:16 <cayce> hahaha
21:53:24 <cayce> joepie91:) I just found some aranjepack copies you hoarded
21:59:12 <joepie91> lol
22:00:10 <R0y4lty> joepie91, xmpp for a second?
22:00:35 <joepie91> ... really?
22:00:39 <joepie91> a nickname with leetspeak?
22:00:43 * joepie91 sighs
22:00:49 <R0y4lty> meh
22:00:50 <R0y4lty> i got bored.
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22:06:20 <DrWhat> MRdjst0rm is dat, dat bot we didnt miss?
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22:06:30 <DrWhat> omg it is
22:07:10 <DrWhat> joepie91 you complain about R0y4lty wh1t3r4bb1t is worse
22:08:04 <R0y4lty> lmfao point
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22:09:45 <Macbeth> hey
22:09:46 <botpie91> Macbeth: 11:41Z <joepie91> tell Macbeth to have more patience when asking whether someone's here or not, next time; also,
22:09:47 <botpie91> Macbeth: 11:45Z <vld> tell Macbeth to ignore the previous message
22:09:47 <botpie91> Macbeth: 11:46Z <joepie91> tell Macbeth to ignore anything vld says
22:09:48 <botpie91> Macbeth: 11:46Z <joepie92> tell Macbeth to ignore anything I say. I'm drunk;
22:09:49 <botpie91> Further messages sent privately
22:10:08 <R0y4lty> macbeth
22:10:10 <R0y4lty> nice to see you,
22:10:11 <R0y4lty> xmpp?
22:10:25 <Macbeth> someone tell me what the fuck is going on
22:10:31 <Macbeth> Seriously
22:10:43 <Macbeth> vld is telling me to me nicer, or joe is pissed?
22:10:56 <Macbeth> roy4lty:
22:10:58 <Macbeth> sure
22:11:00 <Macbeth> we can xmpp
22:11:07 <Macbeth>
22:12:12 <joepie91> Macbeth: lol, vld was messing about with the bot
22:12:14 <joepie91> so so did I
22:12:23 <joepie91> <DrWhat>joepie91 you complain about R0y4lty wh1t3r4bb1t is worse
22:12:26 <joepie91> I've bitched at wh1t3r4bb1t too :)
22:12:28 <iceTwy> joepie91 drunk? that'd never happen? ;)
22:12:28 <vld> are you still drunk, joepie91
22:12:28 <vld> ;(
22:12:32 <joepie91> not that it helped, but it did!
22:12:37 <joepie91> but I did &
22:12:38 <joepie91> *
22:12:40 <joepie91> ...
22:12:42 <vld> see
22:12:43 <vld> he's drunk
22:12:44 <vld> lol
22:12:45 <joepie91> vld: shut up
22:12:46 <joepie91> lol
22:12:51 <joepie91> no, I'm not :P
22:12:58 <joepie91> but I'm writing archiveteam warrior code
22:13:00 <joepie91> so not too far off
22:13:17 <Macbeth> so you were drunk last night, and u messaged ppl?
22:13:18 <iceTwy> aaah
22:13:21 <iceTwy> I'm kinda happy
22:13:23 <joepie91> shit's pretty complex for stranger cases
22:13:24 <joepie91> :P
22:13:29 <iceTwy> pushed weechat-deadbeef to GitHub, finally
22:13:35 <joepie91> Macbeth: joepie92 was vld...
22:13:43 <Macbeth> joepie91: you were drunk last night, or was that vld?
22:13:47 <joepie91> that was vld
22:13:47 <Macbeth> this is too much...
22:13:50 <joepie91> again
22:13:51 <vld> I was afk
22:13:52 <joepie91> that was vld
22:13:53 <vld> for 1 week
22:13:54 <joepie91> that was not me
22:13:55 <joepie91> it was vld
22:13:56 <joepie91> :P
22:13:56 <vld> came back this morning
22:13:59 <vld> wtf you talking about
22:14:00 <joepie91> SHUT UP VLD
22:14:01 <vld> joepie91 stop drinking
22:14:05 <joepie91> lol
22:14:09 <vld> botpie91, tell joepie91 to stahp drinking
22:14:10 <Macbeth> so you weren't drunk, and vld was messing with people?
22:14:10 <botpie91> vld: I'll pass that on when joepie91 is around.
22:14:12 <Macbeth> so you weren't drunk, and vld was messing with people?
22:14:14 <joepie91> Macbeth: correct
22:14:15 <botpie91> joepie91: 22:14Z <vld> tell joepie91 to stahp drinking
22:14:15 <joepie91> Macbeth: correct
22:14:18 <Macbeth> alright
22:14:21 <joepie91> :P
22:14:26 <Macbeth> now can everyone shut the fuck up for a little while?
22:14:30 <Macbeth> it's been resolved
22:14:33 <joepie91> haha
22:15:37 <wh1t3r4bb1t> joepie91 loves me. You're just jealous. And what am I worse at than R0y4lty?
22:16:38 <joepie91> wh1t3r4bb1t: leetspeak in your nick.
22:17:29 <R0y4lty> pfft
22:17:37 <Macbeth> leet is annoying
22:17:37 <R0y4lty> im only on this since i needa fix zoned acc
22:17:42 <wh1t3r4bb1t> That's not leetspeak! It's making fun of leetspeak!
22:17:43 <cayce> well that's fucking queer, abookapart uses shopify's jquery
22:17:46 <cayce> what in the fuck, guys
22:18:02 <Macbeth> i ban people from #opnewblood who have too much leet because its hard to address them when trying to help
22:19:18 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Macbeth, anyone who goes into #opnewblood is a fucking potato and since you own the chan you are the king (or queen) potato. Hurrr durrr. LMFAO
22:19:19 * cayce clicks all the urls in bookmarks
22:19:43 <Macbeth> not even funny
22:19:47 <Macbeth> because it makes no sense
22:19:53 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Not joking.
22:19:55 <Macbeth> are you Irish?
22:19:57 <Macbeth> BRUN
22:19:59 <Macbeth> ** BURN
22:20:08 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I will.
22:20:11 <wh1t3r4bb1t> In hell.
22:20:28 <Macbeth> well suck on this:
22:20:29 <Macbeth> * Macbeth sets ban on wh1t3r4bb1t!*@*
22:21:21 <wh1t3r4bb1t> But since you have a serious lack in making a point I will now return to more important endeavors, such as science.
22:21:34 <Macbeth> good luck with that
22:21:47 <Macbeth> are you doing experiments on potatos?
22:21:53 <Macbeth> you seem to like them alot
22:21:55 <Macbeth> much me Irish
22:22:03 <Macbeth> SHUT YOUR POTATO HOLE!!
22:24:08 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Oh no. The ban hammer is being wielded. By a potato. Hey, Macbeth, don't you have some furrys to molest or something? Or some potatoes to harvest? It's that time of year you know. At least for you northern hemispherical potatoes.
22:24:14 <cayce> hacker news for africa
22:24:39 <Macbeth> im not the one named whiterabbit
22:24:41 <Macbeth> lopl\
22:24:47 * wh1t3r4bb1t facepalms
22:25:12 <wh1t3r4bb1t> What's that smell?
22:25:36 <wh1t3r4bb1t> Oh, it's your breath. It smells like potatoes.
22:25:55 * Macbeth is away:
22:27:38 <wh1t3r4bb1t> I doubt it.
22:27:53 <cayce> TATERS
22:28:35 <iceTwy> cayce:
22:28:38 <iceTwy> NP: City Lights by Steffen Schackinger - from ElectriGuitartistry (2008)
22:28:40 <iceTwy> iz gud
22:34:33 <cayce> wow, soup is still around
22:34:38 <cayce> holy hell
22:34:42 <cayce>
22:35:06 <cayce> my first blog was there
22:35:07 <cayce> :D
22:38:31 <cayce> haha man I've gotten more firefox ssl errors today than ever
22:38:38 <cayce> oscp failures failing closed
22:38:42 <cayce> feelsgoodman
22:41:08 <DrWhat> uhhh
22:41:15 <DrWhat> ummmm
22:41:25 <DrWhat> oh
22:41:26 <DrWhat> nvm
22:41:28 <DrWhat> LOL
22:43:36 <iceTwy> hnnh
22:43:41 <iceTwy> my back's itching
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23:04:06 <R0y4lty> ok iceTwy, congrats.
23:07:23 <iceTwy> heh, R0y4lty?
23:15:22 <joepie91>
23:15:25 <joepie91> pretty decent start!
23:17:02 <joepie91> hm, I broke stuff
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23:24:46 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03isohunt-grab on branch 10develop: '02Seems to mostly work now - at least the downloading does.' (
23:25:00 <cayce> joepie91:) I like the look of this
23:25:25 <joepie91> cayce: hmm? :P
23:25:30 <cayce> joepie91:) will this archive be tarred into I'd love a copy of that fileball :)
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23:26:47 <joepie91> cayce: that's the idea eventually, yes
23:26:56 <joepie91> it's a seesaw pipeline
23:27:04 <joepie91> so could theoretically run in the warrior
23:27:05 <cayce> I know :P
23:27:47 <cayce> has anyone just asked the admin for a copy?
23:27:59 <joepie91> cayce: he most likely wouldn't help out anyway
23:28:01 <joepie91> given his settlement
23:28:07 <joepie91> I'm almost certain it'd break his settlement terms
23:28:16 <joepie91> (but he could *at least* have removed the throttle...)
23:28:19 <cayce> well his settlement is published somewhere
23:28:29 <cayce> we could read it and see
23:28:30 <joepie91> cayce: URL is very welcome
23:28:32 <cayce> or, I could
23:28:33 <cayce> lol
23:28:35 <joepie91> :P
23:28:44 <cayce> yes it's a public docket
23:28:46 * joepie91 focuses on code for now
23:28:54 <cayce> not easy to find perhaps, but should be somewhere
23:29:13 <cayce> found it
23:29:17 <cayce> >_>
23:29:24 <cayce> linked right in the torrentfreak article :)
23:33:23 <cayce> better hurry the fuck up with that grab, you've got 7 days
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23:33:44 <cayce> 7 calendar days from the signing of the judgement
23:34:00 <cayce> Filed 10/17/13
23:35:05 <cayce> yeah, okay
23:35:51 <cayce> joepie91:) someone should ask him. He's required to shut it down within 7 days and not continue operating it, but there's nothing in there about not making a backup or somesuch.
23:36:11 <cayce> especially since the only applicable parties is him and his company
23:37:01 <cayce> It's pretty much a legal cease and desist, but he's got 7 days to do it. Nothing stated that he can't do stuff in the interim, as long as he makes that deadline.
23:38:04 <joepie91> cayce: mind if I copypaste that?
23:38:28 <cayce> sure (it's my interpretation, not a lawyer, etc)
23:38:33 <cayce>
23:39:41 <joepie91> asdfgasdfgjhahsdgalsdkghlkjsdghljkhasdk WHEN WILL PEOPLE STOP USING GODDAMN SCRIBD
23:39:42 <joepie91> FFS
23:39:49 * joepie91 rages
23:40:01 <cayce> pretty much
23:40:13 <cayce> they're satan
23:40:22 <iceTwy> y not just random pdf
23:40:26 <cayce> like, full on satan
23:40:27 <iceTwy> that's better than scribd :<
23:40:30 <cayce> I KNOW
23:40:36 <cayce> I WOULD HOST THEM ALL
23:40:40 <cayce> ALL OF THEM
23:40:44 <iceTwy> pokemon
23:40:47 <iceTwy> gotta catch 'em allllll
23:40:52 <cayce> It's like FUCK
23:42:11 <joepie91> godfuckingasdfasdf
23:42:17 <joepie91> I'm getting exceptions
23:42:20 <joepie91> in my pipeline
23:42:22 <joepie91> and I can't figure out where
23:42:27 <joepie91> because seesaw fucks the stacktraces
23:45:11 * Macbeth is back (gone 01:19:16)
23:45:20 <Macbeth> joe, you here?
23:46:18 <iceTwy> when people ask "why privacy is important"
23:46:27 <iceTwy> I'd answer "because with a single webcam, you can do that"
23:46:29 <iceTwy>
23:46:31 <iceTwy> .title
23:46:32 <botpie91> iceTwy: To pay off webcam spies, Detroit kid pawns $100k in family jewels for $1,500 | Ars Technica
23:47:26 <joepie91>                 try:
23:47:26 <joepie91>                         item["logwriter"].write(data)
23:47:26 <joepie91>                 except ValueError, e:
23:47:26 <joepie91>                         pass # Not sure why this happens, but it breaks shit
23:47:28 <joepie91> so bad....
23:47:32 <joepie91> :P
23:48:00 <HiveResearch> iceTwy: privacy is the right to say No. how much freedom you got if you have no privacy?
23:48:04 <joepie91> Macbeth: theoretically, yes, I'm here
23:48:53 <iceTwy> HiveResearch: aye
23:49:07 <HiveResearch> iceTwy: what's hilarious is the crooks didn't even get the jewels
23:49:08 <HiveResearch> lol
23:49:11 <iceTwy> HiveResearch: well, look at it.
23:49:27 <iceTwy> in philosophy, you can make a distinction between two types of freedom:
23:49:33 <iceTwy> interior freedom, exterior freedom
23:49:57 <iceTwy> your interior freedom is that space that you'll find within yourself where your thoughts are not censored in any way
23:50:01 <iceTwy> a private space
23:50:13 <HiveResearch> i can describe 4 freedoms, but that'll do
23:50:18 <iceTwy> as for the exterior freedom, that's making the best choice
23:50:21 <iceTwy> (aye well)
23:50:26 <iceTwy> anyway
23:50:37 <iceTwy> if you violate one's privacy, you violate their private space tbh
23:51:04 <HiveResearch> you violate their ability to build over time
23:51:07 <iceTwy> that means they can't even do what they'd like to do, by fear of being censored/etc
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23:51:46 <HiveResearch> violations of privacy reduce us to fidgety angry little fascists
23:52:12 <HiveResearch> it's disrespect that causes the slippery slope
23:52:24 <iceTwy> yup..
23:52:29 <iceTwy> we're human beings
23:52:40 <iceTwy> we do need a self space
23:53:01 <iceTwy> you wouldn't really be human provided you did not have this private space
23:53:08 <iceTwy> no space to think, no space for your thoughts to flourish
23:53:16 <iceTwy> you're left to be controlled, pretty much
23:53:40 <iceTwy> in dictatorships mostly, but also in similar regimes, they'll always try to delete that private space by ruining you mentally
23:54:00 <iceTwy> but whether you're doing it directly and publically, as in a dictatorship
23:54:08 <iceTwy> or covertly, as secret systems
23:54:24 <iceTwy> the consequences essentially become the same at one point