Cryto! 27 September 2013
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00:23:01 <x> careful where u share that :p
00:25:32 <Zoned> x ik
00:25:39 <Zoned> maybe if you fucking replied on xmpp
00:26:05 <x> didnt see anything new? o.O
00:28:04 <Zoned> look now
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01:26:00 <Macbeth> Anyone know how to run JScript files/
01:26:03 <Macbeth> *?
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02:19:15 <tommykaine> what you mean macbeth?
02:19:27 <tommykaine> ooo he left
02:21:17 <tommykaine> ?
02:37:18 <tommykaine> usa....
02:38:50 <tommykaine> always has something going on crazy you guys know anything fun going on?
02:47:19 <Zoned> lol
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02:48:59 <joepie91> morning
02:49:00 <botpie91> joepie91: 26 Sep 19:41Z <Macbeth> tell joepie91 to message me on XMPP when he comes online.
02:49:01 <botpie91> joepie91: 26 Sep 19:48Z <Zoned> tell joepie91 moo when he is around.
02:49:02 <botpie91> joepie91: 26 Sep 19:52Z <{DrWhat}> tell joepie91 Ill rupter his anus with my giant bear cock
02:49:18 <joepie91> predictable
02:49:19 <joepie91> lol
02:49:59 <cayce> very
02:50:07 <tommykaine> welcome cap bear cock?
02:50:18 <Zoned> Lmfao!
02:50:20 <Zoned> hahahahahahahaha
02:50:43 <Zoned> boepie91, i love u
02:51:33 <tommykaine> so i have to say something that needs to get off my chest....
02:51:53 <Zoned> meow.
02:51:57 <tommykaine> This game pisses me off to the point where I want to smash my computer into the wall. 'Day One Garry's Incident'
02:52:04 <tommykaine> meow works
02:52:12 <Zoned> please hold for fucks given.....................................
02:52:17 <Zoned> your call is not important to us....................
02:52:29 <Zoned> sorry, there are no operators to take your call................
02:52:33 <Zoned> please hangup and never call again...........
02:53:32 <tommykaine> than call me and help me! 401-285-2187
02:53:44 <tommykaine> wrong chat
02:53:57 <Zoned> lol
02:54:31 <joepie91> Zoned: I read "sorry, there are no operators to take your cat"
02:54:34 <joepie91> and went "wait, what?"
02:54:43 <Zoned> lol
03:03:19 <tommykaine> wait what
03:05:54 <Zoned> joepie91
03:05:56 <Zoned> xmpp
03:06:01 <joepie91> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/26/missouri-cops-now-using-80000-volt-stun-cuffs-on-prisoners/
03:06:04 <joepie91> wtf.
03:06:04 <tommykaine> no you xmpp me!
03:07:00 <tommykaine> its a dog collar for humans now
03:21:13 <tommykaine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvhfvLU73Q#t=56
03:37:26 <joepie91> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/26/gchat-security-flaw
03:37:26 <joepie91> ow
03:37:28 <joepie91> .title
03:37:30 <botpie91> joepie91: Gchat is sending instant messages to wrong recipients (Wired UK)
03:48:16 <joepie91> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/26/the-second-coming-of-java
03:48:18 <joepie91> .title
03:48:19 <botpie91> joepie91: The second coming of Java: a relic returns to rule web (Wired UK)
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04:30:09 <joepie91> http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?46e4ef5e82f31d76#4XgZcjT8X7UjMZSTFpC25VRnFZ7KK+6JTEtZaOA/DL4=
04:30:10 <joepie91> whoop
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05:15:49 <Macbeth> Hi
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06:59:10 <joepie91> http://cryto.net/~joepie91/dbapi.html
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10:05:17 <crafy_d> o/
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12:15:41 <MK_FG> Wow, Bitvise SSHd for windows is surprisingly awesome
12:16:34 <MK_FG> Somehow didn't expect to see decent sshd there, given that people somehow don't seem to use them there
12:22:39 <joepie91> MK_FG: usually the proper Windows daemons are proprietary
12:22:41 <joepie91> see also: http://www.xlightftpd.com/
12:23:00 <MK_FG> Yeah, that one is kinda too, but free for personal use
12:23:12 <joepie91> proprietary still :P
12:23:23 <MK_FG> True dat
12:23:31 <MK_FG> sftp > ftp!
12:23:39 <MK_FG> Oh, nice, it has sftp too
12:26:58 <joepie91> yes
12:27:05 <joepie91> also, haha what: http://wiki.yak.net/574
12:29:49 <MK_FG> yak.net has a quote there at the bottom
12:29:53 <MK_FG> "The Yak's Lair Wow, what a horrible mess of entangled confusion and ramblings. Man! I love the net! I am starting to really be glad to stumble upon miscellania like this. A refreshing mind-scramble."
12:30:01 <MK_FG> Really explains it ;)
12:34:28 <joepie91> heh
12:34:29 <joepie91> also
12:34:30 <joepie91> .title https://plus.google.com/events/cvu62t7b2ac80sd3gpg1r6gkssk
12:34:32 <botpie91> joepie91: Google+
12:34:35 <joepie91> OH THANKS
12:34:43 <joepie91> THAT REALLY CLARIFIED WHAT IT IS
12:35:05 <joepie91> Got any questions about NSA spying, copyright monopolies or how to defend your privacy? Come and ask Rick Falkvinge at Google+ hangout. Happening this Friday, September 27, at 13:00 GMT.
12:35:20 <MK_FG> > Rick Falkvinge > Google+ hangout
12:35:25 <MK_FG> In one sentence!
12:35:31 <MK_FG> And with no bashing!
12:35:34 <joepie91> yeah, surprised too
12:35:39 <MK_FG> Come see it yourself!
12:36:20 <MK_FG> I know what's the first question there will be
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13:00:09 * TheHackBox poke poke joepie91
13:00:18 <joepie91> no, busy!
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13:20:49 <tommykaineM> joepie91!
13:22:28 <joepie91> tommykaineM!
13:22:34 <joepie91> botpie91!
13:22:35 <botpie91> joepie91!
13:22:53 <tommykaineM> joepie91!
13:22:59 <joepie91> busy!
13:23:00 <joepie91> work!
13:23:09 <tommykaineM> no! work bad
13:23:49 <joepie91> distraction bad!
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14:04:26 <tommykaineM> excuses!
14:05:24 <tommykaineM> botpie91!
14:05:25 <botpie91> tommykaineM!
14:05:45 <tommykaineM> botpie91 help
14:06:02 <tommykaineM> help me!
14:34:53 <cayce> joepie91:) yeah you're never going to be able to load g+ headers, given G+ is basically a massive in-browser app lazy loaded in.
14:35:20 <cayce> I realized it a bit ago because it destroys my computer when I try to open a bunch of G+ tabs
14:35:22 <cayce> cause it's not meant for that
14:35:36 <cayce> problem is, it isn't built in a way for single-tab browsing
14:35:59 <cayce> like, where you have all the great back/forward/location on all previous page being tracked and shit
14:36:08 <cayce> so you can actually flip through like a desktop app or some shit
14:36:12 <cayce> that'd be cool, but it doesn't do it
14:36:29 <joepie91> lol
14:36:37 <joepie91> cayce: I've found something new to be pissed at, in the meantime
14:36:41 <joepie91> QT Designer is actively user-hostile
14:36:49 <joepie91> I don't understand how anyone can get any actual work done with that thing
14:36:52 <cayce> doesn't surprise me, it's nokia
14:36:58 <cayce> or was
14:36:59 <joepie91> actually it isn't
14:37:02 <joepie91> it was at some point
14:37:10 <joepie91> but afaik they neither created nor really maintained qt designer
14:37:17 <joepie91> but really, what the fuck
14:37:21 <joepie91> sizing is hell
14:37:22 <cayce> oh, it's a particular app
14:37:26 <joepie91> yes
14:37:29 <joepie91> it's a form designer a la visual studio
14:37:30 <joepie91> basically
14:37:37 <joepie91> except it's nowhere near as usable as visual studio
14:37:39 <cayce> yeah see qt itself was nokia, and 4.x is the last they touched
14:37:42 <joepie91> and seems designed to intentionally piss off developers
14:37:44 <joepie91> or something
14:37:50 <cayce> ahh
14:37:57 <joepie91> it is officially part of QT4 btw
14:38:15 <joepie91> so the "incompetent developer" justification is really not valid here
14:38:37 <joepie91> you'd expect to be able to use resize handles after setting something to a fixed height, right?
14:38:39 <joepie91> nope.avi
14:38:46 <joepie91> resize handles disabled for entirely unclear and undocumented reasons
14:38:51 <joepie91> can only manually set size in pixels in the properties
14:38:53 <joepie91> wat.avi
14:39:07 <cayce> not calling incompetant, calling structural issues in nokia and also I hate all their gui work and the fact that you can't compile parts of qt because their build process either builds the whole thing or nothing, even if you only want one lib bit
14:39:46 <cayce> a great example of that is murmur, which uses only qt networking lib
14:39:57 <cayce> still gotta built 400mb of source though
14:40:17 <cayce> hmm
14:40:19 <cayce> wheres my coffee
14:40:21 <cayce> I want coffee
14:40:28 <cayce> I slept in today!
14:40:33 <cayce> 730am is sleeping in!
14:45:48 <joepie91> cayce: Qt has changed hands a *lot*
14:45:49 <joepie91> over the years
14:46:00 <joepie91> I'm not going to blindly attribute this binary disaster to Nokia
14:46:09 <joepie91> (as opposed to walking disaster)
14:46:10 <cayce> I am!
14:46:39 <cayce> hmm
14:46:43 <cayce> rendering problems in chrome
14:46:50 <cayce> I turned the wrong thing on again
14:46:54 <cayce> now I have to figure out what it was
14:46:55 <cayce> damnit
14:48:00 <joepie91> I had that when I bypassed the gfx driver blacklist
14:48:01 <joepie91> lol
14:48:32 <cayce> yeah
14:48:41 <cayce> It's probably experimental webkit features
14:48:43 <cayce> or css shaders
14:49:01 <cayce> alright, it's not experimental webkit features
14:49:05 * cayce grins
14:49:59 * cayce keeps trying
14:51:14 <cayce> hmm
14:51:17 <cayce> not css shaders either
14:54:41 <cayce> well I suppose I don't actually care since G+ is the only thing it breaks
14:54:42 <cayce> >:D
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15:06:17 <joepie91> rofl
15:06:17 <joepie91> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_dong
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15:06:29 <joepie91> unfortunate coincidence in naming
15:09:12 <cayce> I know
15:09:32 <cayce> I know because it comes up every time I search dongs in search engines other than google
15:09:46 <cayce> which is my "does the internet work?" test
15:09:56 <cayce> or dongs guns
15:10:00 <cayce> which comes up in ddg
15:10:13 * joepie91 had dinner
15:10:16 * joepie91 refueled
15:10:21 <joepie91> cayce: heh
15:10:33 <cayce> bam!
15:10:37 <cayce> POWER UP, NIGGA
15:10:46 * cayce makes wooshing noises
15:12:23 * cayce hits narcissism button
15:12:41 <cayce> (that's klout, in case you're wondering)
15:24:08 <cayce> joepie91:) nice dbapi
15:25:20 <joepie91> \o/
15:27:40 <cayce> :D \o\ /o/
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15:29:23 <joepie91> so
15:29:26 <joepie91> back to struggling with qt
15:29:29 <joepie91> actually qt itself seems to be okay
15:29:57 <Macbeth> +1
15:30:38 <cayce> ^
15:31:17 <cayce> NUUUUU
15:31:20 <cayce> NOOOO
15:31:23 <cayce> IT CRASHED
15:31:24 <cayce> NOOOOOO
15:31:28 <Macbeth> What did?
15:31:32 <Macbeth> You're mind?
15:31:35 <Macbeth> OH HO!! SNAP!
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15:31:47 <Macbeth> Yes, my jokes are lame.
15:31:59 <cayce> no, my music player shit the bed
15:32:07 <Macbeth> Ahh
15:32:08 <cayce> sad pandaren
15:32:10 <Macbeth> Spotify?
15:32:16 <cayce> what's that
15:32:32 <Macbeth> It's the greatest music player on the face of the earth.
15:32:40 <cayce> sounds like streaming
15:32:43 <Macbeth> And if you are using Pandora, you can 4go to hell!!
15:32:47 <cayce> which means I don't use it
15:33:00 <cayce> I don't use pandora, but I've at least heard of that one
15:33:16 <joepie91> fuck spotify and fuck pandora
15:33:19 <cayce> ^
15:33:21 <Macbeth> ?!
15:33:34 <Macbeth> Well this got pretty violent quick.
15:33:41 <joepie91> Macbeth: "hey look at what track I'm listening to <link to page that tells you the name of the track with a giant 'sign up for spotify now to listen' button"
15:33:46 <joepie91> >
15:33:49 <joepie91> no thanks
15:33:55 <cayce> pretty much
15:34:10 <Macbeth> Truth
15:34:18 <cayce> and pandora which is an asshole even when you pay for it
15:34:32 <joepie91> I remember when pandora just came out
15:34:35 <joepie91> "OMG FREE MUSICS!"
15:34:38 <joepie91> then when it actually came out
15:34:43 <joepie91> "oh, US only. they didn't say THAT"
15:34:46 <Macbeth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI
15:34:49 <joepie91> and it was basically all downhill from there
15:34:51 <cayce> "yes I'm still here you fucking dick I'm trying to do my homework!"
15:34:57 <Macbeth> .title
15:34:58 <botpie91> Macbeth: Ron Burgundy - That Escalated Quickly - YouTube
15:35:08 <Macbeth> #ImSoFunny
15:35:10 <cayce> take your shitty cult movies elsewhere
15:35:18 <joepie91> it's a meme
15:35:23 <cayce> it's a cult film
15:35:23 <Macbeth> I never saw the movie, I;m just shareing the link because it's a meme
15:35:33 <cayce> it's a really horrible cult film
15:35:38 <cayce> I saw the movie
15:35:42 <cayce> I wish I hadn't
15:35:59 <Macbeth> Well for God's sakes, this is a coding collective. There are probably a few geeky people in here who like the movie.
15:36:04 <joepie91> ugh, why is GUI coding always so verbose
15:36:18 <cayce> good question joepie91
15:36:22 <cayce> why don't you ask swing
15:36:37 <cayce> here let me initialize the gui in 17 lines
15:36:44 <cayce> and then set configuration options for 10 more
15:36:47 <cayce> alright, now I have a box
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15:37:12 <Macb37h> I like this name. I call meself 37.
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15:37:40 <cayce> I call you an act short of a half dozen
15:37:43 <joepie91> cayce: I don't really understand why there aren't any good, easy, non-verbose, nice-API GUI frameworks
15:38:36 <cayce> because everyone wants "flexibility" which is too often a synonym for complexity and verbosity when it need not be
15:38:44 <cayce> (you know, rather than just decent defaults)
15:39:49 <joepie91> I have a feeling I'm going to be writing a significant amount of abstraction layers in the coming few weeks
15:39:58 <cayce> YEAH
15:39:59 <joepie91> I'm really starting to get very tired of poorly designed APIs
15:40:04 <cayce> I GET A KLOUT PERK FROM REDBULL
15:40:09 <cayce> I ONLY HAVE TO SIGN OVER MY SOUL TO GET IT
15:40:10 <joepie91> woofuckinghoo
15:40:28 <cayce> >:D
15:40:34 * joepie91 is in pessimist mode for the rest of the day
15:40:38 <cayce> oh damnit
15:40:43 <cayce> it's not even actual redbull
15:40:48 <cayce> I would have given them my info for that
15:40:53 <cayce> but not for a fucking magazine
15:40:54 <cayce> fuck that
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15:45:24 <cayce> haha shit man
15:45:31 <cayce> wordpress updates are one fucking click now
15:45:33 <cayce> that's so slick
15:45:56 <cayce> I clicked and it refreshed the page and I'm on the new version
15:45:57 <cayce> done
15:46:01 <cayce> fucking sweet
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15:47:35 <cayce> oh shit?
15:47:51 <cayce> they finally made a thing so I can modify my theme's css without fucking everything up
15:48:02 <cayce> man, wordpress is finally starting to not suck a little
15:48:09 <cayce> just a little
15:48:38 <cayce> hmm
15:48:59 <cayce> joepie91:) what was that diff app I told you about
15:49:08 * cayce needs to use it
15:49:29 <joepie91> ?
15:49:50 <cayce> meld, thank you
15:50:47 <cayce> hahahaha it's a python app
15:50:48 <cayce> sexy
15:55:53 * cayce produces diff
15:56:24 <cayce> damnit
15:56:31 <cayce> I like how my version is a complete cleanup of the css
15:56:32 <cayce> fuck
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15:59:04 <crafy_d> o/
16:03:46 <cayce> :)
16:04:31 <crafy_d> : )
16:15:01 <Zoned> crafy_d
16:15:22 <crafy_d> Zoned : )
16:15:28 <Zoned> sup
16:15:44 <crafy_d> all good, thank you.
16:15:48 <crafy_d> how about you?
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16:50:42 <Macbeth> Hello
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17:33:55 <tommykaineM> macbeth
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17:52:27 <Macbeth> yes?
17:52:56 <Macbeth> If you need help, GHOSTnew in #OpNewBlood cna help you, I've gotta go.
17:53:15 <Macbeth> Or just read the opnewblood page on my website macb37h.wordpress.com/opnewbloodtips
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20:44:24 <cayce> ahh finally
20:44:38 <cayce> I have now instituted "real men only develop on production"
21:16:52 <iceTwy> lol, this is pretty funny
21:17:03 <iceTwy> the WeeChat scripting API is like..
21:17:05 <iceTwy> wow
21:17:14 <iceTwy> it's so Perl-ish
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