Cryto! 13 September 2013

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08:32:58 <Xeross> joepie92: well that works
08:33:25 <joepie92> of course it does :D
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08:33:38 <joepie92> .tell iceTwy to poke me on Jabber when he gets back
08:33:44 <Xeross> joepie92: So I'm still waiting for RAMHost to refund me 67USD
08:33:49 <joepie92> take your time, botpie
08:34:05 <joepie92> Xeross: ?
08:34:10 <Xeross> Because I accidentally put an automated payment a month for more than my servers cost
08:34:16 <Xeross> they already refunded 48 >.<
08:34:45 <joepie92> wtf botpie
08:34:45 <joepie92> sec
08:34:53 <joepie92> botpie91!
08:34:54 <botpie91> joepie92!
08:34:56 <joepie92> what
08:35:06 <joepie92> .tell iceTwy to poke me on Jabber when he gets back
08:35:12 <joepie92> why... is it not responding?
08:35:15 <joepie92> .bitcoin
08:35:16 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $127.48, 1 BTC = €104.50
08:35:31 <joepie92> oh
08:35:35 <joepie92> botpie91, tell iceTwy to poke me on Jabber when he gets back
08:35:36 <botpie91> joepie92: I'll pass that on when iceTwy is around.
08:35:43 <joepie92> derp, syntax difference
08:36:10 <joepie92> Xeross: that's one expensive server if you've already gotten 48 and still should get 67
08:36:11 <joepie92> :p
08:36:44 <Xeross> joepie92: I only noticed after 6 months or even 12 I think
08:36:50 <Xeross> I had automated monthly payments
08:38:18 <joepie92> ahh
09:08:52 <Xeross> Configuration management, fun stuff:
09:08:53 <Xeross> [11:07:58] <ansible> [aragorn] DNS Updated
09:08:53 <Xeross> [11:08:00] <ansible> [rhodium] DNS Updated
09:08:53 <Xeross> Sends a notification via Jabber
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11:00:25 <iceTwy> ~auth iceTwy
11:00:26 <botpie91> iceTwy: 08:35Z <joepie92> tell iceTwy to poke me on Jabber when he gets back
11:00:32 <iceTwy> oh okay
11:02:33 <iceTwy> ping
11:05:45 <MK_FG> pong?
11:07:09 <iceTwy> yay
11:07:27 <MK_FG> New client?
11:09:26 <iceTwy> Nope
11:09:28 <iceTwy> Just testing lol
11:10:09 <MK_FG> Fair enough
11:10:15 <iceTwy> weird
11:10:18 <iceTwy> SASL doesn't work on CrytoCC then?
11:10:42 <MK_FG> No idea
11:10:50 <MK_FG> I think I use nickserv in znc...
11:10:54 <iceTwy> meh
11:11:05 <iceTwy> the flaw with connecting with NickServ is that
11:11:18 <iceTwy> if the server grants you a vhost upon logging in with NickServ (which CrytoCC does)
11:11:34 <iceTwy> your original hostname will still be displayed at first, when you join the server
11:11:42 <iceTwy> 'til you are logged in
11:12:09 <MK_FG> And that you leak password unless you auth server you're connected to somehow
11:12:32 <MK_FG> I think auth with cert would be more ideal
11:12:39 <iceTwy> SASL with a cert?
11:12:42 <MK_FG> But no idea how easy to setup
11:12:42 <iceTwy> meh
11:12:46 <MK_FG> Not sasl
11:12:52 <MK_FG> Just client TLS cert on connection
11:13:01 <iceTwy> HexChat doesn't seem to support that
11:13:09 <iceTwy> it just seems to support login w/ certs via SASL
11:13:14 <MK_FG> Yeah, I imagine not everything does...
11:13:31 <MK_FG> SASL allows plenty of cool auth methods though
11:13:31 <iceTwy> ^^
11:13:35 <iceTwy> Yeah it does
11:13:37 <MK_FG> With forward secrecy even
11:14:02 <MK_FG> So good enuff too ;)
11:14:22 <iceTwy> yup
11:14:27 <MK_FG> But most client probably just use PLAIN anyway :P
11:17:47 <iceTwy> Yup
11:17:59 <iceTwy> HexChat uses PLAIN to auth with SASL
11:18:05 <iceTwy> (unfortunately)
11:18:14 <iceTwy> So I got a VPS
11:18:16 <iceTwy> for 6 months
11:18:17 <MK_FG> So it's still much harder to leak key from tls-cert auth than sasl...
11:18:18 <iceTwy> 54€
11:18:21 <iceTwy> in Germany
11:18:23 <MK_FG> Unless server rejects PLAIN and such, in which case it's back to support question ;(
11:18:46 <MK_FG> .de haz hetzner, why you need vps'es there?
11:18:49 <iceTwy> not from a company that resells servers/VPS - from an actual company with a datacenter
11:18:57 <iceTwy> MK_FG: privacy laws
11:19:11 <iceTwy> and because I like Germany
11:19:14 <iceTwy> for random reasons really
11:19:46 <MK_FG> No, I mean not "why de", but rather "why not buy hardware there instead of vps?" ;)
11:19:55 <iceTwy> oooh
11:20:00 <iceTwy> because I'm not rich enough? :D
11:20:10 <iceTwy> and I don't need anything more than a VPS really
11:20:27 <MK_FG> Fair enuff
11:20:47 <MK_FG> Physical things are kinda cheap there though
11:21:04 <MK_FG> Don't have all the weird vps quirks and vulns
11:21:46 <MK_FG> But might be less stable vs permanent crashes (e.g. need to run smartd there) ;)
11:23:25 <iceTwy> gotta gooooooooo
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17:55:44 <lysobit> dafuq
17:55:46 <lysobit> http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2013/Jul/60
17:56:06 <lysobit> How is this vulnerability present in 2013?
17:56:45 <lysobit> Especially on a browser released in 2008
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18:51:09 <joepie92> lysobit: :/
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18:57:08 <zxcvbnm> federalists papers!
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18:57:15 <zxcvbnm> I mean, hey guys
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19:11:14 <joepie92> hai
19:15:42 <iceTwy> haiz!
19:15:47 <iceTwy> joepie92: got my VPS from rootnerds
19:15:50 <iceTwy> 54€ for 6 months
19:15:56 <iceTwy> in Germany
19:19:19 <joepie92> did you get my messages on xmpp?
19:20:04 <iceTwy> maybe
19:20:05 <iceTwy> maybe not
19:23:08 <iceTwy> actually
19:23:09 <iceTwy> I did
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20:43:40 <joepie92> man
20:43:59 <joepie92> I'm seeing massive amounts of packages being updated about SSL fixes lately
20:44:02 <joepie92> cc cayce
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22:03:20 <skill3r> ohai gays
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23:26:22 <iceTwy> guh
23:26:24 <iceTwy> VPS is back on tracks
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