Cryto! 16 August 2013
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07:20:50 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) I got photos of all of em
07:21:20 <lady-3jane> But you're gonna have to figure out which is which :>
07:21:31 <lady-3jane> anyway, I'mma up to fb tomorrow
07:21:44 <lady-3jane> or if I can figure out where else to dump 240 photos
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12:23:08 <joepie91> lady-3jane: imgur? flickr?
12:26:19 <norbert79> Deviantart?
12:26:33 <norbert79> wait, they don't support mass upload
12:26:37 <norbert79> never mind
12:27:26 <MK_FG> Should be easy with any "cloud storage"
12:32:13 <norbert79> Right
12:32:19 <norbert79> depends on content :)
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13:42:14 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02added NSIS Language File Syntax package', '02Merge pull request #1716 from idleberg/masteradded NSIS Language File Syntax package' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/2aae421e63...82df51ed4a)
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14:02:46 <joepie91> MK_FG: http://rt.com/politics/russia-tor-anonymizer-ban-571/
14:03:15 <MK_FG> Nah, that looks more like a usual media-terror ;)
14:03:34 <MK_FG> That guy has been pushing such crap out on a daily basis
14:03:48 <MK_FG> (for I think years now)
14:04:52 <MK_FG> Or hmm, weird that rt mentions FSB moving there, I think they refused to comment before and it was just that Zhuk madman ;)
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15:20:25 <zxcvbnm> m0rning
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15:24:47 <lady-3jane> hmm, no flickr account, not sure if imgur requires accounts
15:24:50 <lady-3jane> never used it
15:25:13 <snowy> no account required for imgur
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15:26:48 <lady-3jane> kayyy
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15:29:21 <zxcvbnm> lady-3jane: have a good time yesterday?
15:29:47 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) that's a hard question to answer
15:30:15 <lady-3jane> I don't give a fuck about cars, so there's that
15:30:24 <lady-3jane> but the photography and auctioneer theory was fun
15:30:36 <why_slap_option> who wants to play poker
15:31:09 <lady-3jane> and it was a beautiful day, but there were so many people
15:31:18 <lady-3jane> I still can't believe I lasted 5 hours
15:31:34 <zxcvbnm> why_slap_option: linux text based poker?
15:31:48 <why_slap_option> pokerstars.net
15:31:50 <zxcvbnm> lady-3jane: Cool :) I want to see some of the pics so
15:31:51 <why_slap_option> free on
15:31:53 <why_slap_option> e
15:31:54 <lady-3jane> I was, unfortunately, there for 7
15:32:11 <lady-3jane> ran out of energy and had to hide out away from people
15:32:26 <zxcvbnm> why_slap_option: ah, I am at work, I don't think me installing Pokerstars on a work comp is a gud idea :D
15:32:41 <lady-3jane> we'll see if imgur will let me upload 240 photos
15:32:59 <zxcvbnm> i don't see why not, they allow anonymous albums
15:33:04 <why_slap_option> zxcvbnm, you could run a vm and instal it on ur ram
15:43:02 <lady-3jane> how do I do an album
15:43:14 <lady-3jane> just upload all the photos and it'll redirect me to a album?
15:43:42 <lady-3jane> oh, cool
15:43:51 <lady-3jane> I can't put it in a collection without an account, but albums are cool
15:44:48 <lady-3jane> If you want to look up the event, it's apparently called the "Tour D'elegance"
15:45:11 <lady-3jane> and I only went to one of three auctions that happened yesterday
15:45:25 <zxcvbnm> ya i saw that yesterday
15:45:26 <lady-3jane> russo steel ran one last night
15:45:32 <zxcvbnm> thats how I knew some of the cars that were gonna be there
15:45:40 <lady-3jane> ahh
15:45:41 <lady-3jane> :>
15:45:46 <lady-3jane> well there's pics of all the ones you mentioned
15:45:47 <lady-3jane> :)
15:45:53 <zxcvbnm> awesome :D
15:46:04 <zxcvbnm> I'm a bit jealous, that would be fu n
15:46:21 <lady-3jane> It was draining lol
15:46:25 <lady-3jane> fun though
15:46:36 <lady-3jane> hanging out with people who expect I either have money or know a ton about cars
15:46:45 <lady-3jane> I am neither :D
15:47:09 <lady-3jane> I used to know shit about cars, but I dumped that info because it isn't something interesting to me
15:47:29 <lady-3jane> there was some car some dude was telling me enthusiastically about
15:47:39 <lady-3jane> the only one of it's motor type mecum had ever seen or something
15:48:18 <zxcvbnm> haha well, i'm similar to you. I only know so much about cars
15:48:45 <zxcvbnm> and when people start talking to me about engines and everything I can just roll with the punches
15:48:49 <zxcvbnm> sure tell me more :P
15:49:51 <lady-3jane> I can't find the words he used in this pamphlet
15:49:54 <lady-3jane> :<
15:50:27 <lady-3jane> he was super stoked and I couldn't give less of a fuck, but I'll take it as interesting since it's rare
15:50:38 <lady-3jane> oh, and I nabbed pix of the experimental car
15:50:51 <lady-3jane> It had a damn dvd player in the dash!
15:51:04 <lady-3jane> and looked like a jet
15:51:08 <lady-3jane> lol
15:51:32 <joepie91> morning
15:51:37 <joepie91> I gots a vacuum sealer!
15:51:41 <lady-3jane> 150 photos? that must be the album limit
15:51:42 <lady-3jane> YES
15:51:45 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) YES :D
15:51:57 <lady-3jane> total badass
15:51:58 <joepie91> didn't have the money when it was sold by Lidl
15:52:03 <joepie91> but there were a few in the clearance bins
15:52:03 <joepie91> today
15:52:05 <lady-3jane> :3
15:52:08 <joepie91> (at the Lidl)
15:52:09 <joepie91> :)
15:52:17 <joepie91> have to get used to it a bit
15:52:19 <joepie91> but it works quite nicely
15:52:20 <joepie91> :D
15:52:46 <joepie91> and it works with standard Lidl freezer bags
15:53:01 <joepie91> so no extortionist "special sealing foil for only 9001 euro per roll" scheme
15:53:11 <joepie91> (which is what usually fucks you over on these things...)
15:54:21 <lady-3jane> yeah
15:54:30 <lady-3jane> that's why I've never owned one, cause they always pull that shit
15:54:46 <lady-3jane> so we'll see which photos it uploads
15:54:51 <lady-3jane> maybe the first 150?
15:55:12 <lady-3jane> says 150 photos uploading, but I selected 245
15:55:52 <joepie91> lady-3jane: it seems that the Lidl freezer bags are actually suitable for all sealing machines
15:56:00 <joepie91> so perhaps you should see if there's a Lidl in your area...
15:56:06 <lady-3jane> :>
15:56:12 * lady-3jane googles
15:56:24 <joepie91> quote from vacuum sealer manual incoming
15:57:13 <joepie91> "For sealing use only film made from HDPE and LDPE."
15:57:24 <lady-3jane> they have no usa contingent
15:57:30 <joepie91> given that the Lidl site said freezer bags work in this thing
15:57:30 <lady-3jane> according to their site
15:57:37 <joepie91> that means that their freezer bags are therefore either HDPE or LDPE
15:57:44 <joepie91> (it doesn't say on the packaging..)
15:57:48 <lady-3jane> polyeurethane
15:57:49 <lady-3jane> yea
15:57:49 <joepie91> therefore it should work in any sealer
15:57:50 <joepie91> ya
15:57:51 <lady-3jane> makes sense
15:58:07 <joepie91> also, pretty sure Lidl was thinking of expanding to US
15:58:10 <joepie91> apparently not started yet then
15:58:19 <joepie91> anyway, get HDPE/LDPE freezer bags and a sealer
15:58:21 <joepie91> and you should be good
15:58:21 <joepie91> :)
15:58:24 <lady-3jane> well if they sell shit like that, then I'd probably like em here
15:58:28 <joepie91> I'm sure dollar tree sells them
15:58:30 <joepie91> or a similar store
15:58:34 <joepie91> heh
15:58:34 <lady-3jane> yeah
15:58:36 <joepie91> trust me, you will :)
15:58:44 <joepie91> Lidl has lots of awesome stuff
15:59:24 <lady-3jane> damnit
15:59:32 <lady-3jane> the nearest fresh and easy is fucking san jose
15:59:33 <lady-3jane> e.e
15:59:40 <lady-3jane> http://www.freshandeasy.com/
15:59:48 <lady-3jane> those stores are pretty cool
15:59:51 <joepie91> lady-3jane: look through it: http://www.lidl-pageflip.com/nl.html?kid=YrLM2z
16:00:19 <lady-3jane> euros?
16:00:20 <lady-3jane> or
16:00:35 <joepie91> yes
16:00:36 <lady-3jane> what, dk
16:00:38 <joepie91> nonfood starts at page 10
16:00:43 <lady-3jane> kronor
16:00:51 <lady-3jane> hmm
16:00:54 <lady-3jane> how to spell racks
16:01:29 <joepie91> euro
16:01:29 <joepie91> :p
16:01:33 <joepie91> not kronor
16:01:35 <lady-3jane> rack it is
16:01:50 <lady-3jane> wrack means misery
16:01:52 <lady-3jane> huh
16:02:04 <joepie91> USB microsope 35 euro
16:02:05 <lady-3jane> "rack my brain" but "to go to wrack and ruin"
16:02:09 <lady-3jane> shhhhh
16:02:12 <lady-3jane> I'm learning!
16:02:21 <lady-3jane> I'll look at your damn advertisement in a minute lol
16:02:26 <joepie91> lol
16:02:57 <why_slap_option> hi
16:03:00 <lady-3jane> damn
16:03:24 <lady-3jane> 1kg ground beef for 380
16:04:14 <joepie91> lady-3jane: Lidl also has a very odd thing
16:04:15 <lady-3jane> ahh shit
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16:04:16 <joepie91> that isn't really documented anywhere
16:04:18 <lady-3jane> how do I spell that
16:04:24 <joepie91> where for fresh stuff, you can "buy 2, get 1 later"
16:04:29 <joepie91> to reduce waste
16:04:34 <joepie91> ie. you kind of pledge to buy 2
16:04:35 <lady-3jane> page two, right side, goats cheese
16:04:38 <joepie91> you immediately take one
16:04:44 <joepie91> and get a voucher to get another one later
16:04:48 <lady-3jane> is it any good?
16:04:50 <lady-3jane> cause that's a good price
16:04:52 <lady-3jane> also win
16:04:58 <joepie91> to prevent the whole "I bought two because on discount and now I have to throw one away"
16:05:03 <joepie91> they should really document this shit
16:05:09 <joepie91> took me like 30 mins to figure out how it worked
16:05:11 <joepie91> by Googling
16:05:19 <lady-3jane> sounds good
16:05:19 <joepie91> also, assume that anything in that leaflet is of good quality
16:05:23 <lady-3jane> it's hmm
16:05:30 <lady-3jane> I think we call those rain checks
16:05:43 <joepie91> their temporary products pretty much *always* are high quality, and they usually don't put the poorer stuff (like crisps) on sale
16:05:47 <lady-3jane> there's probably an industry term, but I've heard of em
16:05:47 <joepie91> (the standard crisps I mean)
16:05:52 <lady-3jane> we just don't do them as a standard policy here
16:05:52 <joepie91> ah
16:06:00 <joepie91> well
16:06:03 <joepie91> Lidl is the only one doing it here
16:06:04 <joepie91> afaik
16:06:16 * lady-3jane nods
16:06:40 <lady-3jane> some stores, though less now, will let you get a ticket for an on-sale item that they ran out of stock with
16:06:48 <lady-3jane> those are rain checks
16:06:55 <lady-3jane> and sounds like a similar concept
16:07:16 <lady-3jane> just rather than running out, you do it always
16:07:31 <joepie91> oh
16:07:34 <joepie91> no that's different
16:07:41 <joepie91> that's what the albert heijn here does
16:07:57 <joepie91> basically a way to compensate for poor inventory planning
16:07:57 <joepie91> :P
16:08:02 <lady-3jane> yeah
16:08:05 <joepie91> very different intention, primarily
16:08:09 <lady-3jane> oh
16:08:14 <joepie91> the Lidl thing is really just to prevent people from having to throw shit away
16:08:20 <joepie91> because they buy too much
16:08:22 <joepie91> because of combo deals
16:08:26 <lady-3jane> discount store preventing waste lel
16:08:30 <joepie91> well, tbh
16:08:36 <joepie91> and this is going to sound crazy
16:08:41 * lady-3jane prepares for crazy
16:08:44 <joepie91> but Lidl is doing -by far- the most of any supermarket in NL
16:08:50 <joepie91> for things like waste prevention
16:08:52 <joepie91> fairtrade
16:08:52 <joepie91> etc
16:08:54 * lady-3jane nods
16:09:09 <joepie91> they are starting to make fairtrade more and more prominent, running lots of promotions
16:09:09 <lady-3jane> I wish I could explain it to stores here
16:09:12 <lady-3jane> that would be neat
16:09:13 <joepie91> slashing prices all the time
16:09:22 <joepie91> they changed their soda bottles to use 30% less plastic
16:09:28 <joepie91> now this voucher thing
16:09:32 <joepie91> they sell cotton bags
16:09:36 <joepie91> as pretty much the only store in NL
16:09:40 <joepie91> at the cash register
16:09:41 <lady-3jane> hmm
16:09:44 <joepie91> like, real good strong cotton shopping bags
16:09:46 <joepie91> large ones, too
16:09:50 <lady-3jane> I'm not sure how I feel about less plastic in bottles
16:09:54 <lady-3jane> it's a pet peev of mine lol
16:09:58 <joepie91> ?
16:10:06 <lady-3jane> shitty bottles with tiny tops bother me
16:10:12 <joepie91> well
16:10:16 <lady-3jane> that's what they do here
16:10:17 <lady-3jane> lol
16:10:22 <joepie91> the Lidl bottles have a very.. particular design
16:10:22 <joepie91> sec
16:10:23 <lady-3jane> it cheapens it
16:10:36 <lady-3jane> the thing I heard though
16:10:44 <why_slap_option> hi how are you guys (lady-3jane included)
16:10:53 <lady-3jane> my old roommate was from denmark, and he said they reuse all bottles there
16:10:54 <joepie91> lady-3jane: http://www.voordeelmuis.nl/img/gif/994/994060.gif
16:10:57 <joepie91> the second image
16:11:00 <joepie91> is the type they use now
16:11:06 <lady-3jane> they make them extra thick, and then just make all soda in the same bottles which can be relabled
16:11:07 <joepie91> it's a very weak bottle, but the middle is very strong
16:11:13 <joepie91> yeah, that's how it used to work here
16:11:18 <joepie91> now they're still collected with deposits etc.
16:11:22 <joepie91> but they're.. melted?
16:11:25 <joepie91> instead of cleaned and reused
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16:11:33 <lady-3jane> he said they scraped em out pretty much
16:11:36 <joepie91> because of hygiene blah blah blah
16:11:36 <skill3r> ohai
16:11:38 <lady-3jane> and ofc bleached etc
16:11:40 <joepie91> nah, they use water beams
16:11:44 <joepie91> high-pressure water beams
16:11:47 <lady-3jane> haha
16:11:48 <lady-3jane> win
16:11:53 <lady-3jane> of superheated water lol
16:11:54 <joepie91> but they moved away from that here
16:11:57 <lady-3jane> awh
16:11:58 <joepie91> everyone does melting now
16:12:01 <joepie91> instead of clean&reuse
16:12:03 <lady-3jane> that seemed like an amazing idea
16:12:20 <joepie91> the idea got in trouble here over hygiene
16:12:24 <joepie91> it wasn't hygienic enough blah blah blah
16:12:25 <lady-3jane> sup skill3r :>
16:12:28 <lady-3jane> bah
16:12:32 <joepie91> anyway, lady-3jane, look at the images I linked :p
16:12:33 <lady-3jane> blah blah blayh indeed
16:12:41 <joepie91> the second picture shows the current Lidl soda bottle design
16:12:48 <lady-3jane> unless more than a person or two get sick, they can bite me
16:12:49 <joepie91> as long as you hold it in the middle, it's very strong
16:12:51 <joepie91> everywhere else, it's flimsy
16:12:56 <lady-3jane> it's funny :>
16:13:01 <joepie91> it's pretty well-designed
16:13:04 <joepie91> (used to be far worse..)
16:13:16 <lady-3jane> I'm partial to coke's old plastic bottles
16:13:17 <joepie91> (Lidl bottles used to just go SPLURGH when you opened them because everything was flimsy...)
16:13:21 <lady-3jane> those things were nuke proof
16:13:28 <joepie91> haha
16:13:40 <lady-3jane> drop a nuke on it and the atoms bounce
16:13:45 <lady-3jane> it was fuckin crazy
16:14:07 <lady-3jane> hahaha "tempest in a teacup"
16:14:14 <lady-3jane> "nuke in a coke bottle"
16:14:20 * lady-3jane kekekes
16:14:25 <joepie91> lady-3jane: http://images.fok.nl/upload/060223_15869_animatie_flessen.gif
16:14:28 <joepie91> old and new
16:14:46 <lady-3jane> weiiiiird
16:14:48 <lady-3jane> also FANTA
16:15:00 <joepie91> very thick plastic
16:15:04 <joepie91> the old ones
16:15:07 <lady-3jane> DON'T YOU WANT TA WANT TA FANTA
16:15:24 <joepie91> that's probably what they use in denmark
16:15:26 <lady-3jane> yeah
16:15:28 <joepie91> those old very strong bottles
16:15:38 <lady-3jane> they were thicker than the old american bottle,s my roommate said
16:15:43 <lady-3jane> which is crazy cause ours were... jeez
16:15:47 <lady-3jane> mm thick
16:15:48 <joepie91> because you can actually high-pressure-clean those without them falling apart or being ripped to shreds
16:15:48 <joepie91> lol
16:16:00 <joepie91> anyway
16:16:06 <joepie91> I have to put groceries in the fridge
16:16:10 <lady-3jane> do eeeet
16:16:10 <joepie91> and finish watching a presentation on Palantir
16:16:15 <lady-3jane> linkme
16:16:24 <joepie91> (it's scary how basically their entire presentation is describing all the ideas I had for openNG...)
16:16:26 <lady-3jane> xmpp if you prefer
16:16:27 <lady-3jane> lol
16:16:28 <joepie91> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86VKjFSMJE
16:16:46 <joepie91> I seem to have reinvented Palantir before I was even aware of the existence of Palantir
16:16:47 <joepie91> >.>
16:16:55 <lady-3jane> lmao
16:17:04 <lady-3jane> I need to track down fedcon and blackhat videos
16:17:12 * lady-3jane giggles
16:17:17 <lady-3jane> "defcon" sorry
16:19:17 <lady-3jane> AGH HE'S TALKING ABOUT CHESS
16:19:41 <lady-3jane> All I want to do is shout "So write chess bots that defeat other chess bots! HAVE A BATTLE TO ZEE DEATH"
16:20:12 <lady-3jane> It's my answer any time someone keeps a human focus about something when computers are better than us at it
16:20:23 <lady-3jane> it makes sense to me that AI vs AI would be good entertainment
16:22:20 <zxcvbnm> did i miss anything important
16:23:06 <lady-3jane> LULZ SYNERGY
16:23:12 <zxcvbnm> hmm
16:23:13 <lady-3jane> HOW LONG UNTIL HE SAYS SYNERGY
16:23:51 <lady-3jane> friction reduction YOU MEAN SYNERGY
16:24:02 <lady-3jane> man, I'm a horrible audience member
16:24:06 <lady-3jane> good thing this is youtube
16:24:12 <joepie91> :P
16:24:47 <lady-3jane> I like asking stupid questions
16:24:51 <lady-3jane> it's really great
16:25:14 <joepie91> lol
16:25:22 <joepie91> sounds like Palantir is basically openNG concept meets Git
16:25:37 <joepie91> HAHAHA
16:25:40 <joepie91> 19:09
16:25:52 <lady-3jane> I'm at 6:36 gimme a minute
16:26:17 <joepie91> you just SEE him think "oh wait, I'm not explaining this to my colleagues, this is government executives, QUICK THROW IN SOME CORPORATE BUZZWORDS"
16:26:25 <joepie91> like being snapped back into reality
16:26:25 <joepie91> haha
16:26:38 <joepie91> 19:00 actually
16:26:50 <lady-3jane> awesome
16:26:53 <lady-3jane> so he's a real engineer then
16:26:54 <lady-3jane> good
16:27:00 <joepie91> yes, clearly :P
16:27:14 <joepie91> lol
16:27:18 <joepie91> lady-3jane; skip ahead
16:27:20 <joepie91> you *have* to see that
16:27:20 <joepie91> haha
16:27:27 <lady-3jane> I'll get there, damnit
16:27:30 <joepie91> :P
16:27:33 * lady-3jane giggles
16:27:35 <joepie91> it's from 19:00 to 19:20 or so
16:28:48 <lady-3jane> I get the feeling palantir is actually a cool company
16:28:57 <lady-3jane> probably they do some stupid shit
16:30:02 <lady-3jane> yeah, I'm betting they do cool shit
16:30:10 <lady-3jane> stupid shit for some people because money
16:30:33 <joepie91> lady-3jane: I think Palantir is an unfortunate combination of very enthusiastic engineers, and the standard ignorance/bias/justification-behaviour that the average guy on the street suffers from
16:30:43 <joepie91> not inherently evil
16:30:44 <lady-3jane> it's taking all his effort not to scream IaaS
16:30:57 <joepie91> just in a position where that ignorance kind of has very bad consequences
16:31:02 <lady-3jane> yeah
16:31:16 <lady-3jane> well at some point you've gotta square with "is code political speech"
16:31:23 <lady-3jane> and pick which side you come down on
16:31:34 <lady-3jane> if you stick your head in the sand, dangerous things happen
16:32:07 <joepie91> lady-3jane: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-of-intelligence-how-a-deviant-philosopher-built-palantir-a-cia-funded-data-mining-juggernaut/
16:32:12 <joepie91> read that :)
16:34:40 <joepie91> either my internet is shitting out
16:34:46 <joepie91> or youtubes internet is
16:35:30 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) http://imgur.com/a/EbFzH#0
16:35:50 <lady-3jane> cars!
16:36:31 <joepie91> yup, my internet
16:42:40 <zxcvbnm> muchas gracias
16:42:45 * zxcvbnm follows links
16:44:21 <zxcvbnm> do you know if that #13 shelby cobra was original?
16:44:43 <zxcvbnm> i.e. not replica
16:44:48 <lady-3jane> no idea
16:44:58 <lady-3jane> if there isn't a photo of a sign for it, that's all I've got
16:45:12 <lady-3jane> but it seems like imgur munged my photo order
16:45:55 <zxcvbnm> ooooh
16:46:01 <zxcvbnm> 427 cobra w/ nos
16:46:02 <zxcvbnm> ha
16:46:05 <lady-3jane> yes!
16:46:07 <lady-3jane> that was SO HOT
16:46:17 <lady-3jane> the... I don't know
16:46:20 <lady-3jane> it's orange and cream
16:46:24 <lady-3jane> I took like 7 photos of it
16:46:27 <lady-3jane> so pretty e.e
16:46:34 <lady-3jane> the interior was gorgeous and leather
16:46:45 <zxcvbnm> oh yeah
16:46:50 <zxcvbnm> i am lookin at that one now. that is gorgeous
16:47:03 <zxcvbnm> might be a caddy
16:47:09 <zxcvbnm> indeed
16:47:28 <lady-3jane> yeah
16:47:33 <lady-3jane> I WANT MY CADDY BACK
16:47:37 <lady-3jane> :3
16:47:46 <lady-3jane> best line from zombieland
16:48:34 <zxcvbnm> :P
16:48:45 <zxcvbnm> those seats just look so comfy
16:48:49 <zxcvbnm> i want that for my computer chair
16:49:09 <why_slap_option> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:49:18 <why_slap_option> oops wrong channel
16:49:19 <why_slap_option> sorry
16:50:48 <lady-3jane> dude joepie91 this software he's using looks like maltego
16:51:44 <joepie91> lady-3jane: yes, I believe that Palantir and Maltego share roots
16:51:47 <joepie91> also
16:51:48 <joepie91> it looks like crap
16:51:49 <joepie91> :P
16:52:00 <zxcvbnm> i want this
16:52:01 <zxcvbnm> http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/948b8f2cd724df7993ae17bde3d9eff5/images_/assets/galleries/2011/9869/90-wtf.jpg
16:52:13 <zxcvbnm> and wtf doesn't stand for what the fuck
16:52:14 <zxcvbnm> it stands for
16:52:17 <zxcvbnm> world thorium fuel
16:52:21 <lady-3jane> I don't
16:53:02 <joepie91> and so far, I'd say that the primary difference between Palantir and openNG is that openNG will require less configuration, is more based around ephemeral activities (ie. search and forget), and tries to guess what you're looking for rather than having you explicitly specify it
16:53:33 <lady-3jane> I want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GK7R00-Ik
16:53:34 <joepie91> (there's also going to be a fair amount of UI differences... Palantir isn't exactly optimal, UI-wise)
16:53:35 <lady-3jane> that car.
16:54:57 <lady-3jane> 700hp :D
16:55:46 <lady-3jane> mmm, dat body roll
16:55:54 <lady-3jane> that thing weighs a couple of tons
16:56:00 <zxcvbnm> lady-3jane: btw -- I don't know if you care, but I *think* that orange cadillac is a Series 62
16:56:01 <lady-3jane> it's heaaaaaaaavy
16:56:03 <zxcvbnm> https://www.google.com/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1099&q=Series+62+cadillac&oq=Series+62+cadillac&gs_l=img.3..0j0i5l2j0i24.948.2853.0.2910.10.10.0.0.0.0.95.543.9.9.0....0...1ac.1.25.img..1.9.541.DTvhoeF24x4#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=bd176cf9d77138de&q=Series+62+cadillac+1950s&sa=1&tbm=isch&imgdii=_
16:56:12 <zxcvbnm> if you look up series 62 cadillac 1950s
16:56:26 * lady-3jane nods
16:56:44 <lady-3jane> I don't own it, so I don't care :D
16:56:53 <lady-3jane> I has pretty pictures, that's what I wanted
16:56:53 <lady-3jane> lol
16:58:10 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) palantir looks like all of those OSI apps which started based on shitty graph UI's (trying to copy freemind or so) and tried to pivot
16:58:28 <lady-3jane> they never redid the ui based on the new concept
16:59:14 <zxcvbnm> outta here for the weekend, later friends
16:59:21 <lady-3jane> zxcvbnm:) have a good weekend!
16:59:26 <zxcvbnm> and the same to you
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16:59:45 <lady-3jane> oh today's friday isn't it
16:59:48 <lady-3jane> lulz
17:00:35 <lady-3jane> ugh
17:00:43 <lady-3jane> the FUD against TTIP is starting already
17:06:24 <joepie91> TTIP?
17:06:36 <joepie91> lady-3jane: and yes, I think I agree
17:06:40 <joepie91> re: the graph UI thing
17:08:01 <lady-3jane> ttip transatlantic trade and investment partnership
17:08:16 <lady-3jane> think nafta but between .eu and .us
17:08:41 <lady-3jane> massive free trade agreement, with regulatory synchronization and such
17:09:13 <lady-3jane> It's gonna be super awesome, and it looks like (so far!) they're refusing to touch intellectual property
17:09:28 <lady-3jane> which means it has a chance of succeeding
17:09:48 <lady-3jane> and if it does? tariff free trade between us and eu
17:10:08 <lady-3jane> (half the world's gdp right there
17:10:09 <lady-3jane> )
17:10:39 <lady-3jane> I suppose now is the time to ask questions like "what effect will this have on non-ttip signatories"
17:11:01 <lady-3jane> I mean it's a total pot-shot at china and russia, and that's fine, but they aren't the ones I'm concerned about
17:11:22 <joepie91> I recall there being something very wrong with TTIP
17:11:25 <joepie91> but can't recall what exactly
17:11:43 <lady-3jane> It's gonna have issues, yeah
17:11:47 <lady-3jane> I guaruntee it
17:12:09 <lady-3jane> but I think, for the involved countries, the benefits will far outweigh problems
17:12:16 <lady-3jane> data privacy is a real issue I can see
17:12:26 <joepie91> right, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Free_Trade_Area#Criticism_with_respect_to_secret_negotiations_and_copyright_clauses
17:12:48 <lady-3jane> also the regulatory synchronization will be interesting too. I'm concerned it will be too biased towards taking .eu's regulations down versus updating the US's
17:14:12 <lady-3jane> yeah, it could be an issue
17:14:15 <lady-3jane> IP shit
17:14:44 <lady-3jane> but until we can convince the people who think IP is a thing that it actually benefits them more for it to NOT be a thing... it'll be an issue
17:15:29 <lady-3jane> also wow, that palantir article in forbes is new
17:15:41 <lady-3jane> like published wednesday new
17:15:50 <lady-3jane> won't even appear in forbes mag until next month new
17:15:51 <lady-3jane> damn
17:21:23 <lady-3jane> huh
17:21:32 <lady-3jane> so peter thiel has majority stake in palantir, interesting
17:22:03 <lady-3jane> also http://bluecabinet.info/wiki/Blue_cabinet/Palantir
17:37:33 <joepie91> lady-3jane: teh jabbers!
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18:19:44 <skill3r> please rt https://twitter.com/OpGreenRights/status/368432722823237632
18:20:45 <joepie91> skill3r, read the topic
18:21:35 <skill3r> ok sorry
18:21:46 <lady-3jane> yeah man, contextless bitly links. It's always a good idea to click on that shit
18:23:36 <lady-3jane> hmm
18:23:52 <lady-3jane> so if the us keeps getting hammered in the news, maybe that means ttip will end up biased towards europe
18:23:58 <lady-3jane> I'm sure y'all'd love that
18:25:19 <lady-3jane> According to the 2013 Small Business Exporting Survey, these businesses account for 98 percent of exporting firms and 33 percent of exporting value in the U.S.
18:25:40 <lady-3jane> what that tells me is 2% of businesses in the US run 67% of our export
18:26:13 <joepie91> <lady-3jane>so if the us keeps getting hammered in the news, maybe that means ttip will end up biased towards europe
18:26:28 <joepie91> syncing regulations according to the current state of the EU regulations
18:26:34 <joepie91> is going to *kill* the US economy
18:26:38 <lady-3jane> :D
18:26:47 <lady-3jane> Yeah, it's not to say you guys don't have issues
18:27:02 <lady-3jane> It'll kill parts of the US to regulate in the first place
18:27:29 <lady-3jane> texas, for eg, is pretty much lawless when it comes to corporations
18:28:18 <lady-3jane> but california, on the other hand, is one of the most highly regulated states in the country
18:28:24 <lady-3jane> .eu regulations probably won't be much here
18:28:59 <lady-3jane> Iunno, maybe it'll mean .eu gets to sync regulations too
18:29:00 <lady-3jane> within itself
18:29:07 <lady-3jane> that could be a nice clarifying action
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22:53:57 <lady-3jane> wiggle while you work, niggas
22:54:23 <lady-3jane> wow, google's having routing issues here
22:54:25 <lady-3jane> that's nuts
22:55:31 <lady-3jane> and boom it's everywhere on twitter
22:55:32 <lady-3jane> oh god
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23:44:31 <joepie91> okay
23:44:31 <joepie91> http://pastebin.com/C205ZFip
23:44:38 <joepie91> it's starting to smell of 'scam' quite badly now.