Cryto! 9 August 2013
00:00:05 <joepie91> zoho mail isn't exactly in a similar vein to lavabit
00:02:51 <lolpwn> anyone got a pop3 class?
00:13:17 <joepie91> this sounds like a bad idea
00:13:21 <joepie91> lolpwn: what are you trying to do?
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00:15:11 <LastOneStanding> wow power2all
00:20:59 <lolpwn> joepie91: just cba opening gmail and shit via web browser, so writing a little app to read all my inboxes at one. why?
00:33:17 <joepie91> LastOneStanding: what?
00:33:34 <joepie91> lolpwn: e-mail is hard to do right
00:33:45 <joepie91> I'd recommend looking at existing webmail software
00:33:50 <lolpwn> I'm just using imap atm joepie91
00:33:54 <joepie91> or just installing some kind of client
00:33:59 <lolpwn> it's just designing the thing so its not ugly as hell.
00:34:09 <joepie91> I'm assuming you're using Windows?
00:35:51 <joepie91> ... doesn't look like any sane clients for Windows exist
00:35:52 <joepie91> shame
00:36:00 <LastOneStanding> what do u mean what joepie91
00:36:17 <LastOneStanding> i dint saay anything
00:36:20 <joepie91> <LastOneStanding>wow power2all
00:38:27 <lolpwn> exactly
00:42:47 <norbert79> joepie91: Would you accept a riddle from me? :)
00:43:07 <joepie91> norbert79: that's an odd question.
00:43:20 <norbert79> joepie91: it's something interesting I just started to get know about
00:43:29 <norbert79> joepie91: http://server.norbert79.uk.to/users/norbert79/SSTV.mp3 - try to figure out what that is
00:43:52 <joepie91> number station
00:43:57 <joepie91> ?
00:44:05 <joepie91> over AM
00:44:07 <joepie91> from the sounds of it
00:44:17 <norbert79> nope :)
00:45:00 <joepie91> sounds more patterned
00:45:11 <joepie91> data transfer over radio
00:45:12 <joepie91> in some form
00:45:28 <norbert79> well, I leave you figuring out :) I can give you hints although
00:45:42 <joepie91> or I could just Google the filename
00:45:48 <norbert79> I made it
00:45:52 <norbert79> Google won't help
00:46:01 <joepie91> Slow-scan television (SSTV) is a picture transmission method used mainly by amateur radio operators, to transmit and receive static pictures via radio in monochrome or color.
00:46:06 <norbert79> good
00:46:11 <joepie91> clearly Google did help
00:46:12 <joepie91> :P
00:46:21 <norbert79> meh, had to try convince you it won't
00:46:23 <norbert79> :)
00:46:27 <joepie91> lol
00:46:32 <joepie91> you could've figured that wouldn't work with me
00:46:32 <joepie91> :D
00:46:44 <norbert79> yeah, the naming was pretty obvious
00:46:51 <norbert79> anyway, you still need to figue out the content
00:49:03 <mikaa> n-yan ;)
00:50:16 <norbert79> no :)
00:50:28 <norbert79> I like that cat, but not THAT a lot :)
00:50:36 <mikaa> k
00:50:41 <joepie91> norbert79: meh
00:50:43 <joepie91> perhaps later
00:50:43 <joepie91> :P
00:50:45 <joepie91> have to be off now
00:51:20 <norbert79> Oh.. Alright, later then!
00:52:11 <joepie91> won't be long
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02:45:49 <mikaa> norbert79 pm pls
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07:58:01 <norbert79> mikaa: Well done! Sent you a PM too
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18:08:57 <skill3r> ohai
18:54:01 <joepie91> hai
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19:22:33 <joepie91> https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/332769751128477698
19:25:20 <lolpwn> after 6 years if not more paypal finally limited me
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20:02:21 <Ari> YES
20:02:34 <Ari> Client approved my design & signed a contract
20:02:36 <Ari> :3
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21:28:36 <skill3r> http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/08/09/silent-circle-follows-lavabit-in-closing-its-encrypted-email-service-because-it-cannot-be-secure/
21:28:38 <skill3r> :(
21:39:04 <lolpwn> wow.
21:39:10 <lolpwn> nsa needs to f*ck off
21:39:16 <lolpwn> oops
21:39:18 <lolpwn> forgot to [off]
21:44:56 <joepie91> not much point in [off]ing that
21:44:56 <lady-3jane> lel
21:44:57 <joepie91> :P
21:46:26 <lady-3jane> are there configuration options for ssl shit in unreal?
21:46:29 <lady-3jane> cause
21:46:30 <lady-3jane> You are connected to haless.cryto.net with SSLv3-AES256-SHA-256bits
21:46:32 <lady-3jane> could be better
21:48:13 <joepie91> lady-3jane: afaik it will use whatever your client negotiates
21:48:16 <joepie91> but not entirely sure
21:48:41 <lady-3jane> I think that isn't accurate
21:48:54 <lady-3jane> because I'm
21:48:55 <lady-3jane> Connected using Cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
21:48:57 <lady-3jane> elsewhere
21:49:18 <lady-3jane> unless yours is just less detailed and those are the same line
21:49:27 * lady-3jane dunno about unreal
21:50:31 <lady-3jane> also 1024bit key
21:51:24 <lady-3jane> nope, they aren't the same
21:51:43 <lady-3jane> yours: Version: TLSv1/SSLv3, cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)
21:51:55 <lady-3jane> other place: Version: TLSv1/SSLv3, cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits)
21:52:09 <lady-3jane> iiiiinteresting :>
21:52:50 <Ari> dun dun duuuunnnn
21:55:07 <joepie91> no clue how to configure it tbh, SSL/TLS is one giant clusterfuck that I prefer thinking about as little as possible
21:57:39 <lady-3jane> hehe
21:57:47 <lady-3jane> I spend a hair too much time on it
21:57:57 <lady-3jane> mostly wishing clients (browsers) supported tls1.2
21:58:24 <lady-3jane> chrome 29 will, and now NSS does (so firefox etc, but it's disabled in ff by default) too
21:58:38 <lady-3jane> but not ie10, and maybe not ie11 either
21:58:39 <Ari> lol
21:58:45 <Ari> I'm about to write a website that does ecommerce
21:58:52 <Ari> I haven't the foggiest idea how to HTTPS
21:58:58 <lady-3jane> which is dumb as fuck because windows Schannel has supported tls since 2008 or some shit
21:59:10 <lady-3jane> tls1.2, even
21:59:26 <lady-3jane> schannel support is very very good, it's just MS disabled 1.1 and 1.2 by default
21:59:30 <lady-3jane> DUMB DUMB DUMB
21:59:54 <lady-3jane> Ari:) what webserver
21:59:59 <Ari> dunno yet
22:00:04 <Ari> haven't bought hosting
22:00:15 <Ari> or a domain name lol
22:00:16 <lady-3jane> better be vps or dedi
22:00:31 <Ari> eugh
22:00:32 <Ari> whyy
22:00:38 <Ari> it's for a client's small site
22:00:45 <lady-3jane> If you shared host an ecommerce site I will take all your CC's and email them to you
22:01:00 <Ari> gonna use 3rd party payment
22:01:01 <Ari> offsite
22:01:16 <lady-3jane> like paypal integration, or stripe or something?
22:01:19 <Ari> yeah sure
22:01:22 <lady-3jane> or uh I think square does api too
22:01:25 <lady-3jane> and dwolla's is okay
22:01:35 <Ari> i'll probably go with paypal cause even though I hate them they have a damn trusted payment system
22:02:01 <lady-3jane> just be prepared to listen to your client scream when they get fucked for 3 months of income
22:02:13 <Ari> ugh
22:02:17 <Ari> what do then
22:02:24 <lady-3jane> fuck if I know
22:02:25 <lady-3jane> :P
22:02:27 <Ari> lol
22:02:28 <Ari> mmkay
22:02:49 <lady-3jane> I like square and dwolla, but they're not recognizable like paypal
22:03:32 <lady-3jane> just know that paypal is biased towards customers, not businesses
22:03:46 <Ari> yeah
22:03:48 <Ari> I know
22:03:49 <Ari> T_T
22:03:56 <Ari> (that's how you make money on the internet)
22:04:00 <lady-3jane> yup
22:04:09 <lady-3jane> lol
22:04:09 <Ari> i'm dumb
22:04:45 <lady-3jane> awh fuck man
22:04:57 <lady-3jane> I found the ircd this other place is using and it's gpl
22:05:00 <lady-3jane> neeeevermind
22:07:04 <lady-3jane> agh it doesn't say which version
22:09:01 <lady-3jane> I'm so excited for freebsd10 man
22:09:15 <lady-3jane> so much cool shit
22:09:36 <lady-3jane> and no fucking license issues
22:21:27 <lolpwn> lol
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22:27:21 <slap[incognito]> joepie91, is that normal that there is 2 channel named crytocc
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22:28:32 <lady-3jane> what do you mean
22:28:36 <lady-3jane> :/
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22:29:52 <slap[incognito]> ...
22:30:05 <lady-3jane> what do you mean two channels
22:30:17 <lady-3jane> is it a channel on another network? >_>
22:30:28 <slap[incognito]> nope
22:30:54 <lady-3jane> why don't you give more info
22:31:05 <slap[incognito]> in this network sexy lady
22:31:14 <lady-3jane> You're answering questions conservatively instead of giving the info needed to investigate >_>
22:32:24 <slap[incognito]> i did a channel list search and saw crytocc twice ill join it then youll whois me i no lying
22:33:19 <lady-3jane> someone mistyped?
22:33:25 <lady-3jane> It's a capital O
22:33:47 <lady-3jane> anybody in there cept you?
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22:34:04 <webuser16> Joepie?
22:34:16 <joepie91> webuser16: hai?
22:34:21 <webuser16> hello!
22:34:25 <webuser16> Happy bday btw :)
22:34:26 <lady-3jane> also I found the reason why you'd use hexchat over xchat, since that was discussed yesterday. hexchat supports newer irc protocol versions :)
22:34:37 <joepie91> thanks, but it's unclear to me who you are :P
22:34:43 <webuser16> I'm netomx from let :P
22:34:45 <joepie91> aha
22:34:46 <joepie91> hai!
22:34:57 <joepie91> slap[incognito]: it's a unicode 'vuln' someone found
22:35:02 <webuser16> I have a confession tu make :$
22:35:04 <joepie91> unicode lookalike characters
22:35:17 <webuser16> to*
22:35:18 <joepie91> oh dear
22:35:21 <joepie91> also
22:35:23 <joepie91> before you continue
22:35:34 <joepie91> hi, welcome to #crytocc, please be aware that this is a publicly logged channel and please read the topic
22:35:36 <lady-3jane> this channel is logged
22:35:39 <lady-3jane> ^ yeah that
22:35:46 <joepie91> things can be kept out of the public log by prefixing it with [off]
22:35:48 <lady-3jane> loggy, pointer?
22:35:48 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-08-09#T22-35-48
22:35:52 <lady-3jane> loggy, pointer?
22:35:52 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-08-09#T22-35-52
22:35:57 <joepie91> but that will obviously not help against others logging this place :)
22:36:01 <webuser16> haha i posted in on let but you didnt read it haha
22:36:04 <joepie91> webuser16: go on :P
22:36:18 <webuser16> 2 weeks ago, I dreamed that I was with you and th epolice were looking for us HAHAHAHA :(
22:37:04 <joepie91> oh dear
22:37:09 <webuser16> I'm not gay btw >=[ but it was a very random dream
22:37:20 <joepie91> now I'm being chased in dreams!
22:37:26 <joepie91> in multiple interpretations of the phrase
22:37:31 <webuser16> and btw, I've sent you some emails, but you haven't answered me </3
22:37:36 <lady-3jane> hot :3
22:37:38 <joepie91> well yes, quite possibly
22:37:43 <joepie91> given I haven't had access to my email
22:37:45 <joepie91> until yesterday
22:37:46 <joepie91> lol
22:37:51 <webuser16> :o didn't know
22:37:52 <lady-3jane> I chase joepie in dreams too, but they're pretty gay dreams
22:37:59 <webuser16> hahaha
22:38:08 <joepie91> webuser16: what e-mail address did they originate from? (you can also PM if you don't want it public)
22:38:20 <webuser16> well
22:38:26 <lady-3jane> lol give the word before the @
22:38:31 <lady-3jane> he can search
22:38:36 <lady-3jane> or pm it
22:38:37 <webuser16> thanks jajaja
22:38:44 <webuser16> how can i pm it? HAHAHAH
22:38:52 <webuser16> :$
22:39:05 <lady-3jane> /msg joepie91 message goes here
22:39:29 <webuser16> it was a very old mail, so it probably doesn't matter anyway haha
22:39:42 <lady-3jane> but you remember it, which means it's important to you
22:39:43 <lady-3jane> :P
22:39:53 <webuser16> I remember he didn't answer it </3
22:39:57 <webuser16> :P
22:40:10 <lady-3jane> yes
22:40:24 <lady-3jane> which makes his reply important, even if the contents of the mail weren't :P
22:40:33 <webuser16> oh lady
22:41:00 <webuser16> I feel like a lady haha
22:42:58 <lady-3jane> lmao
22:43:06 <lady-3jane> maybe you are :P
22:45:04 <joepie91> OH COME ON
22:45:04 <joepie91> ffs
22:45:09 <webuser16> i dont think so
22:45:09 <joepie91> I just spilled coffee over my keyboard
22:45:12 <joepie91> THAT I CLEANED TWO DAYS AGO
22:45:15 <lady-3jane> NUUUU
22:45:15 <webuser16> LOL
22:45:25 <lady-3jane> and you're typing on it, which makes it funnier
22:45:34 <joepie91> lady-3jane: it's spill-resistant
22:45:36 <joepie91> as I found out two days ago
22:45:37 <webuser16> if I were a lady, I would be a whore :c hahaha
22:45:43 <joepie91> has an extra layer on the inside
22:45:44 <webuser16> lol joepie
22:45:55 <webuser16> i have never spilled something to the keyboard
22:45:56 <lady-3jane> so go be a whore? >_>
22:46:04 <lady-3jane> fuck ALL THE THINGS
22:46:06 <joepie91> unless you throw like an entire coffee pot worth of coffee over it, it's not going to touch the electronics, ever
22:46:09 <joepie91> quite well designed keyboard
22:46:12 <lady-3jane> (just be safe about it)
22:47:00 <joepie91> lady-3jane: basically there's a giant plastic layer on the inside with tubes that are like 1 centimeter higj
22:47:01 <joepie91> high *
22:47:09 <lady-3jane> damn :D
22:47:11 <joepie91> the keys have smaller tubes under them that go in there
22:47:12 <joepie91> and click in
22:47:24 <joepie91> there's no way to spill on the electronics
22:47:31 <joepie91> without either removing keys
22:47:38 <joepie91> or throwing in enough fluids to exceed that 1 centimeter in height
22:48:04 <joepie91> was moderately impressed when I opened it up
22:48:09 <joepie91> built much better than I expected
22:48:19 <joepie91> and being spill-resistant was *certainly* not an advertised feature
22:48:20 <joepie91> lol
22:48:34 <webuser16> it is a laptop?
22:48:39 <webuser16> or a desktop?
22:48:43 * webuser16 slaps joepie91 around a bit with a large fishbot
22:52:37 <slap[incognito]> lady-3jane, wat means the 3
22:53:28 <slap[incognito]> is that for threesome?
22:53:38 <slap[incognito]> Oops
22:53:45 <lady-3jane> I don't understand the question
22:54:11 <slap[incognito]> lady->3<jane
22:54:20 <slap[incognito]> 3
22:54:21 <lady-3jane> yes that's my name
22:54:22 <webuser16> dx
22:54:37 <lady-3jane> * [lady-3jane] (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto): Lady 3Jane Marie-France Tessier-Ashpool
22:54:38 <slap[incognito]> why 3
22:54:43 <lady-3jane> * [lady-3jane] (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto): Lady 3Jane Marie-France Tessier-Ashpool
22:54:46 <lady-3jane> ^
22:54:48 <lady-3jane> read more
22:55:03 <slap[incognito]> O_o
22:55:19 <slap[incognito]> whos that
22:55:22 <lady-3jane> I'd be 3jane but unreal honors not starting nicknames with numbers, in the old unix style
22:55:32 <lady-3jane> like I said, read more :)
22:55:38 <slap[incognito]> u dox urself
22:55:40 <lady-3jane> read neuromancer, by gibson
22:55:41 <slap[incognito]> ?
22:55:50 <lady-3jane> wut
22:55:51 <slap[incognito]> wats tat
22:55:55 <lady-3jane> a book
22:56:10 <slap[incognito]> is that A 3000 page book written in english?
22:56:16 <lady-3jane> you know, shit printed on dead tree pulp?
22:56:37 * slap[incognito] is a dumb abortion
22:56:51 <lady-3jane> No? Mine is 272 pages.
22:57:02 <joepie91> webuser16: it's a desktop
22:57:02 <slap[incognito]> that managed to survived
22:57:18 <joepie91> keyboard is a Medion Erazer Gamer Keyboard, aka a rebadged Saitek Eclipse II
22:57:21 <joepie91> sold by the Aldi
22:57:52 <slap[incognito]> joepie91, what do you think about me and lolpwn sharing a server?
22:58:27 <lolpwn> (ponders question)..... who said anything about sharing?
22:58:34 * lady-3jane giggles
22:58:50 <slap[incognito]> ill share the bill
22:58:52 <joepie91> slap[incognito]: I would say that no matter who the other person is, you should be careful about any form of sharing hardware
22:59:08 <slap[incognito]> with monopoly moni
22:59:23 <slap[incognito]> money for the classy
22:59:45 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) how bad is alienvps
23:00:37 <joepie91> lady-3jane: basically, if you really need DDoS mitigation and BuyVM is not an option, AlienVPS is acceptable
23:00:41 <joepie91> for anything else, avoid like the plague
23:00:59 <webuser16> lol
23:01:07 <lady-3jane> I was just looking at 19/yr
23:01:08 <slap[incognito]> you got it back joepie91
23:01:14 <lady-3jane> it only needs to run a dns slave
23:01:17 <joepie91> (I should also note that http://ddosprotect.us/ is probably a better option if you don't plan on IRC)
23:01:21 <joepie91> yeah, no
23:01:22 <lolpwn> Why do yo need ddos protection?
23:01:25 <joepie91> there's plenty of better providers
23:01:27 <joepie91> for that price
23:01:42 <lolpwn> I can hook you up with 120Gbps / 64M ddos protected vps for $75
23:01:57 <lady-3jane> that's 10x what I'd like to pay
23:02:01 <lady-3jane> I just need stable networking
23:02:13 <lolpwn> its very stable and pretty cheap
23:02:23 <lolpwn> cheapest you'll find for that much protection
23:02:32 <lady-3jane> Something I can log into, turn sshd key auth only, set up dns as a slave, and walk away from it for a year
23:02:38 <lolpwn> they'll host anything but CP on the machines
23:02:40 <joepie91> lady-3jane: ramhost
23:02:44 <joepie91> sec
23:02:51 <joepie91> http://tinyvz.com/
23:02:55 <lady-3jane> 75 is too high, lolpwn
23:03:03 <lolpwn> then talk to max
23:03:03 <joepie91> oh damnit
23:03:05 <joepie91> out of stock again
23:03:09 <lady-3jane> haha
23:03:09 <lolpwn> he can give u a discount(msg me if u want skype of him)
23:03:12 <joepie91> sec
23:03:19 <lady-3jane> not interested, lolpwn
23:03:33 <lolpwn> kk then
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23:03:38 <lolpwn> gl finding good protection
23:03:44 <joepie91> lady-3jane: jabber
23:04:12 <lolpwn> have you considered getting a regular vm then buying prolexic or some other protection
23:04:37 <lady-3jane> No.
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