Cryto! 11 July 2013
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01:44:26 <iceTwy> .bitcoin
01:44:26 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $87.00, 1 BTC = €68.43
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02:06:54 <pzuraq> joepie91: It's a client/server MVC framework
02:06:57 <pzuraq> looks very interesting
02:12:55 <why_slap_option> joepie91: do you know where is kyz
02:23:39 <why_slap_option> ??
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02:56:36 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Added new package sublime-wakatime to repositories.json', '02Merge pull request #1519 from wakatime/masterNew Package "sublime-wakatime" mapped to name "WakaTime"' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/cc560f4491...48106f7ba7)
03:20:02 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/user-settings: '02Implement user settings' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/c5326ed833...ed58e39ffc)
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03:38:41 <pzuraq> fuck it
03:38:50 <pzuraq> I'm just gunna hack the shit out of this
03:38:52 <pzuraq> forget about it
03:39:03 <pzuraq> and curse myself later when I remember what and idiot I'm being
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03:54:26 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 17 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10develop: '02Deduplicate affected users for an @all highlight, and add methods to the UserCache to search by room presence and membership', '02On an @all, don't notify the user that sent it in the first place', '02Update documentation to reflect new UserCache methods', '02Add mock modes to example config', '02Implement a development mode', '02Send output of development-m
03:54:42 * joepie91 frowns
03:54:47 <joepie91> oh, right.
03:54:48 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 20 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/user-settings: '02Deduplicate affected users for an @all highlight, and add methods to the UserCache to search by room presence and membership', '02On an @all, don't notify the user that sent it in the first place', '02Update documentation to reflect new UserCache methods', '02Add mock modes to example config', '02Implement a development mode', '02Send output of
03:56:18 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 17 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/api-vcard: '02Deduplicate affected users for an @all highlight, and add methods to the UserCache to search by room presence and membership', '02On an @all, don't notify the user that sent it in the first place', '02Update documentation to reflect new UserCache methods', '02Add mock modes to example config', '02Implement a development mode', '02Send output of dev
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04:34:44 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 3 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/user-settings: '02Fix component code so that the last modified date for user settings is set correctly', '02Add documentation for user settings-related API calls', '02Add documentation for possible user settings' (https://github.com/KnightSwarm/Envoy/compare/058550a31c...186c8a3525)
04:44:39 <joepie91> k
04:44:42 <joepie91> done with that for the night
04:44:45 <joepie91> dishes time!
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12:35:09 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 3 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02SublimeClosureMyJSSublimeClosureMyJS minimizes JavaScript files using Google's Closure.', '02Package name map for ClosureMyJS', '02Merge pull request #1425 from fnkr/masterSublimeClosureMyJS' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/48106f7ba7...c9e80ab86f)
12:59:34 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Update repositories.json', '02Merge pull request #1522 from jonschlinkert/masterAdds sublime-markdown-extended and sublime-monokai-extended, both also mapped to new names' (https://github.com/wbond/package_control_channel/compare/c9e80ab86f...31c8a8f02c)
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14:07:35 <zxcvbnm> i'm all confused
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16:48:46 <lady-3jane> NP: [Tinariwen - Dualahila ar Tesninam] [Amassakoul] [786kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:56:59 <MK_FG> Just managed to read it - epic mobile-js rant(-ish thing) - http://sealedabstract.com/rants/why-mobile-web-apps-are-slow/
16:57:53 <MK_FG> Maybe author will bash my skull in for calling it rant though, as the goal is exactly opposite, it just fits neatly with other things on php, mysql and such ;)
17:03:40 <lady-3jane> :P
17:05:05 <lady-3jane> MK_FG:) is there a tldr in it? I'm not overly interested in the finite details :P
17:06:24 <MK_FG> I think conclusion might start with "Slow relative to WHAT" header
17:06:48 <MK_FG> But not sure if all the gory details are there
17:07:20 <lady-3jane> so the writer needs to work on writing skills? :D
17:07:31 * lady-3jane grins
17:07:31 <MK_FG> Also, despite kinda compelling arguments there, my mind seem to go to Mozilla and it's Firefox OS
17:08:07 <MK_FG> Mozilla should know better than pretty much anyone (except maybe Chrome/WebKit teams) about JS and all the things he lists there
17:08:08 <lady-3jane> I'm crying for mozilla right now >_>
17:08:30 <MK_FG> Yet they somehow launch JS-heavy (I think) Firefox OS
17:09:12 <lady-3jane> They have really highly optimised js but that's irrelevant if they can't de-jankify it like chrome has
17:09:45 <lady-3jane> I dunno if ff is singlethreaded or what, but it blocks like a bitch
17:10:13 <lady-3jane> and chrome, while heavier, plays musical chairs to get around that situation
17:10:25 <MK_FG> Author's point there is pretty much "all these hyped optimizatons are scraping bottom of the barrel, and JS on mobiles still has 2% - and even less - of desktop performance"
17:10:38 <lady-3jane> yeah
17:10:42 <lady-3jane> mmk
17:10:50 <MK_FG> And that this situation isn't gonna change anytime soon
17:11:07 <lady-3jane> perhaps mozilla is going for the sort of thing google did with v8?
17:11:13 <MK_FG> And hw angle is a looong shot
17:11:21 <lady-3jane> create the need and the market so the other stuff follows
17:11:50 <lady-3jane> hard push on the upper bound of what's possible put javascript into first-class position on the web
17:11:51 <MK_FG> Hm, might be
17:12:03 <lady-3jane> due in large part to v8
17:12:26 <lady-3jane> I don't know if mozilla has the resources to do that, but it might be what they're trying at
17:12:43 <lady-3jane> NP: [ZZ Top - Tush] [Greatest Hits] [857kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:13:13 <MK_FG> Yeah, I think it's a good hypothesis, certainly better than mine "they don't know what they're doing!" ;)
17:13:43 <lady-3jane> the most obvious answer to me is that they just don't want to fully cede mobile to everyone else
17:14:13 <lady-3jane> but... that doesn't mean it'll work or succeed or anything
17:14:13 <lady-3jane> :P
17:14:22 <joepie91> iceTwy ^
17:15:11 * lady-3jane waves morning to joepie91
17:15:16 <joepie91> morning :)
17:15:21 <lady-3jane> :>
17:16:30 <MK_FG> I wonder if they might go further asm.js way and despite author's claims of fundamental incompatibility of such optimiaztions with js, somehow try to pull it off
17:17:51 <lady-3jane> I think asm.js is a great idea. If they're not introducing nonstandard stuff (aka it'll still run normal speed in a normal js engine), I have no issue with it. It's an obvious thing to do.
17:18:08 <lady-3jane> BAM ubiquitous language support, why not make a subset C-like in speed
17:19:56 <MK_FG> It's kinda addressed there too
17:20:25 <MK_FG> Guess we'll just have to wait and see
17:20:48 <lady-3jane> I can see why people would hate asm.js, but it seems like an obvious game-creator-heaven
17:21:02 <lady-3jane> which is precisely what they're getting at
17:21:03 <lady-3jane> :P
17:21:50 <lady-3jane> fucking mac beachballing
17:21:53 * lady-3jane kicks it
17:22:42 <MK_FG> Heh, it's funny if asm.js plays out as a trick to make high-level dynamic-lang devs...
17:23:03 <MK_FG> ...suddenly care about manual memory allocation, types, optimizations and all things C
17:23:18 <MK_FG> Like gateway drug
17:23:36 <MK_FG> While technically called "hey javascript, it's easy, right?" ;)
17:24:43 <MK_FG> Just call slave-tracking-collar "communication device" and people will be sold on it ;)
17:25:11 <MK_FG> (random analogy)
17:27:54 * lady-3jane laughs
17:28:02 <lady-3jane> I wouldn't mind that at all
17:31:14 <MK_FG> Sure, you don't mind it now, but in a year, when suddenly hyper-optimized native-hw-mapped no-vm js apps suddenly start having buffer and stack overflows like crazy....
17:31:51 <lady-3jane> I will still not mind
17:32:07 <lady-3jane> it's been what 40 years since C? we still have those issues.
17:32:20 <MK_FG> Here, I figured out that it's all a clever NSA plot to introduce backdoors into all things
17:32:30 * lady-3jane facepalms
17:33:49 <MK_FG> http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/
17:33:51 <MK_FG> 013/07/your%20move%20NSA.jpg
17:33:57 <MK_FG> Oops
17:36:13 <MK_FG> http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/07/your%20move%20NSA.jpg
17:51:04 <lady-3jane> lol fucking redditors
17:52:29 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 4 commit(s) to 03sublimetext-insertdate on branch 10develop: '02Add ability to modify default settings', '02Add .sublime-commands file with default and custom formatCloses #1.', '02Add a few key bindings', '02Add key bindings to menu file' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/sublimetext-insertdate/compare/2cfac1776d...b66935d92e)
17:54:31 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 10 commit(s) to 03sublimetext-insertdate on branch 10master: '02Add handling for non-unicode return values from datetime.strftimeHopefully fixes #3.', '02Update README to use relative links where applicable', '02Code overhauls (no changes in functionality)', '02Add generate_table.py which I've only been using locally', '02Add ability to modify default settings', '02Add .sublime-commands file with defaul
17:54:35 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03sublimetext-insertdate on branch 10develop: '02Update README and install.txt (now .md) and create CHANGELOG', '02Finish v0.4.0' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/sublimetext-insertdate/compare/b66935d92e...d76138f5cf)
17:55:59 <lady-3jane> oh god, sublimetext plugins
17:56:05 <lady-3jane> I really need to try a few of those
17:59:40 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 2 commit(s) to 03sublime_packages on branch 10master: '02Fix InactivePanes typo', '02Push InsertDate to 0.4.0' (https://github.com/FichteFoll/sublime_packages/compare/7358e4fc5a...b1053aac6c)
18:01:37 <joepie91> MK_FG: someone is going to have an unpleasant time trying to connect to his wifi AP
18:01:41 <joepie91> ;)
18:02:09 <MK_FG> You can say it's NSA-proof, then ;)
18:03:07 <MK_FG> I wonder how much tinfoil actually blocks wifi
18:04:38 <joepie91> well
18:04:42 <joepie91> I used to have massive issues
18:04:45 <joepie91> with a microwave next to a router
18:05:00 <joepie91> after tinfoiling the sides of the microwave, the issues somehow disappeared
18:05:08 <joepie91> so at least it blocks wifi-interfering microwave radiation
18:05:53 <MK_FG> Heh, so the tinfoil cranks are right again!
18:07:04 <lady-3jane> my friend made a dish out of tinfoil for one of those usb dongles
18:07:12 <lady-3jane> improved his wifi strength
18:07:22 <lady-3jane> however you say that
18:08:48 <MK_FG> usb dongle with a tinfoil dish sounds awesome
18:09:06 <joepie91> it does work
18:09:10 <joepie91> but depending on your internals
18:09:12 <joepie91> it can damage your wifi hardware
18:09:28 <joepie91> can't recall the exact reason for it
18:09:30 <joepie91> unrelated
18:09:36 <joepie91> newsflash: Linden Labs bought Desura
18:09:41 <joepie91> what could possibly go wrong
18:09:48 <lady-3jane> everything, and the economy
18:10:02 <joepie91> "everything" would be an understatement
18:11:23 <lady-3jane> well desura already sucked
18:11:29 <lady-3jane> I figure it can only go downhill from here
18:11:50 <joepie91> wouldn't say it sucked
18:11:54 <joepie91> just wasn't what it could have been
18:13:43 <lady-3jane> NP: [Korn - Coming Undone] [See You On The Other Side] [255kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
18:13:57 <lady-3jane> better
18:13:57 <lady-3jane> NP: [Korn - Coming Undone] [See You On The Other Side] [1065kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
18:23:29 <zxcvbnm> 1 letter difference
18:23:49 <joepie91> leak!
18:24:17 <zxcvbnm> lol
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18:54:53 <iceTwy> pft
18:55:05 <iceTwy> I can't believe that shit
19:05:01 <lady-3jane> hmm?
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19:21:31 <iceTwy> .startgh
19:21:32 <botpie91> Already watching GitHub.
19:21:42 <iceTwy> then I'm not on the github list
19:21:43 <iceTwy> joepie91: ^
19:22:03 <iceTwy> .listgh
19:22:04 <iceTwy> .gh
19:22:07 <iceTwy> .github
19:22:18 <iceTwy> .addgh
19:22:19 <botpie91> iceTwy: Maximum amount of watchable accounts reached.
19:22:23 <iceTwy> uhoh
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19:58:25 <waflel> iceTwy, damn yo
19:58:29 <waflel> you're committing like a feind
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20:05:21 <iceTwy> ya I am
20:05:25 <iceTwy> waflel: ^
20:05:32 <waflel> iceTwy, :>
20:06:05 <waflel> 15:21:25 < botpie91> iceTwy made 1 commit(s) to dbot on branch database: 'fixed wrong translation string locale' (https://github.com/iceTwy/dbot/compare/1f7c247b94...b54070d7b3)
20:07:48 <iceTwy> couldn't see it o.o
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20:11:20 <monod> *afk*
20:27:38 <joepie91> iceTwy: I'm seeing your commits with some frequency
20:27:39 <joepie91> :P
20:27:49 <iceTwy> haha
20:27:53 <iceTwy> yeah well
20:28:07 <iceTwy> this is a friend's IRC bot
20:28:12 <iceTwy> he needed a french translation
20:28:21 <iceTwy> result: the french translation is the only one to be complete
20:28:25 <joepie91> lol
20:28:31 <joepie91> also
20:28:31 <joepie91> jabber!
20:28:33 <iceTwy> ya
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20:53:34 <iceTwy> This is utterly disgustingf
20:53:35 <iceTwy> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
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21:00:33 <waflel> joepie91, how do I do a path in bash?
21:01:10 <iceTwy> waflel: :(){ :|:& };:
21:01:15 <waflel> no :<
21:01:19 <iceTwy> haha
21:01:20 <waflel> I mean myPath=~/path/to/file
21:01:23 <waflel> or do i use quotes
21:01:23 <waflel> or what
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21:49:46 <zxcvbnm> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1i3qs7/we_are_two_hackers_who_run_development_on_the/
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22:25:25 <joepie91> waflel: you'll have to be more descriptive with regards to what you want to do
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