Cryto! 10 July 2013

00:02:05 <botpie91> 04FichteFoll made 1 commit(s) to 03package_control_channel on branch 10master: '02Add int3h/SublimeFixMacPath, closes #1516' (
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02:02:07 <why_slap_option> joepie91, hello
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06:16:47 <EmptyRedData> Hello MaryJane. Weren't you in the OpNSA channel earlier on the anonops server?
06:18:01 <MaryJane> I was. I believe i kicked you for being unhelpful
06:18:31 <EmptyRedData> Huh_ kicked me I believe. Sorry about that, I was just being too critical for my own good. Any how, that is neither here nor there. What's up?
06:18:50 <MaryJane> You are not banned anyway i believe.
06:18:54 <MaryJane> Not much
06:19:07 <MaryJane> This is usually quiet, odd to be talking here
06:19:14 <EmptyRedData> I was. Reconnection was impossible, but let's just drop that. It was a bit of silliness
06:19:39 <EmptyRedData> Yeah, Joepie is usually being quite chatty, but I couldn't even get ahold of him even on jabber
06:19:52 <EmptyRedData> Something about a queue lol
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06:33:10 <EmptyRedData> Okay, you are the US government. What would be the best way to deter acts of terrorism? In a way, I think Prism is a brute force solution to that problem.
06:42:33 <MaryJane> well if you consider that "terrorism" is a threat created by the government it all changes.
06:42:50 <MaryJane> its an excuse to do what they wish to get what they will
06:43:34 <EmptyRedData> And somehow the Boston Bombing still occured even through Prism. Which amazes me to no end
06:43:52 <EmptyRedData> If you have such a complete surveillance system, how did that get through? It baffles me somewhat.
06:45:25 <MaryJane> Because it wasn't "terrorists"
06:47:43 <EmptyRedData> How do you define terrorist? I know it is a taboo word and I hope I am not coming across as a smart ass asking this. It just has so many variations that one mans terrorist is another mans psycho.
06:49:56 <MaryJane> A government created threat to place fear in the populace against attack at any time meaning that any controls and restrictions can be placed on them for "safety".
06:51:15 <EmptyRedData> Not every terrorist attack is government fabricated.
06:51:50 <MaryJane> Perhaps not all, but the extent it has gotten to now is ridiculous
06:52:24 <EmptyRedData> I agree. I am also not saying it is impossible for the government to fabricate an attack for pro US interest.
06:53:06 <MaryJane> Anything announced by MSM i tend to read between the lines and discredit.
06:53:12 <MaryJane> Maybe im prejudice. :D
06:53:23 <EmptyRedData> Remember the mujhaideen (I can't spell it to save my life) and how the CIA backed it with weapons and support but eventually turned on us? They eventually formed Al Quedia (again, spelling and me don't mix this late and this drunk)
06:53:37 <EmptyRedData> MSM?
06:53:44 <MaryJane> Main stream media
06:53:48 <EmptyRedData> Ah.
06:53:49 <MaryJane> And yes, exactly.
06:53:55 <MaryJane> They dont focus on that little bit of information
06:54:05 <MaryJane> But the men in caves will come get you!
06:54:06 <EmptyRedData> Yeah, sometimes the government doesn't need to fabricate this shit, they just fuck up and it happens lol.
06:55:16 <EmptyRedData> My theory is that Prism is a way to hide shame via total control. People just feel more safe when they have the utmost control. Is it right? No, but they feel safe, thus you should feel safe in their eyes.
06:55:47 <EmptyRedData> Everyone lost to terrorism, because we are all terrified. A muslim man can't board an airplane without worried looks.
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06:57:02 <EmptyRedData> Ha, I love that scene from "The Dictator" when Aladeen and his nuclear scientist disguise themselves as tourists and get arrested for being foreign on a helicopter tour. Even though they did say some worrying things lol.
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07:11:25 <pzuraq_> what're some movies to get?
07:11:31 <pzuraq_> given that I'm looking for movies
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07:15:16 <EmptyRedData> Has anyone on here used Golang?
07:20:35 * MK_FG used golang
07:20:53 <MK_FG> pzuraq_, That's an awfully broad question ;)
07:21:00 <EmptyRedData> Very nice :3
07:21:04 <pzuraq_> yes
07:21:07 <pzuraq_> it is
07:21:24 <MK_FG> I've pirated "Odd Thomas" the other day, found it interesting enuff
07:21:29 <pzuraq_> broadly, any movie worth having, specifically, every movie you think every person should have/see
07:21:35 <EmptyRedData> Have you seen World War Z? It's not like the book at all, but still a fun watch
07:21:36 <MK_FG> Seem to be hollywood remake of Steins Gate anime
07:21:47 <MK_FG> (which is kinda awesome)
07:21:55 <pzuraq_> Haven't watched Steins Gate yet, on my list
07:22:05 <MK_FG> There you go then, start there! ;)
07:23:16 <pzuraq_> I also want to watch attack on titan
07:47:28 <Skindred> .bitcoin
07:47:29 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $76.93, 1 BTC = €61.33
07:47:45 <EmptyRedData> Wasn't it over a hundred fifty the other week?
07:51:41 <pzuraq_> not too long ago
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13:22:17 <zxcvbnm> m0rning
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13:35:23 <zxcvbnm> not me
13:49:01 <lolpwn> hmmm
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15:31:12 <lady-3jane> NP: [The Andrew Sisters - Rum & Coca Cola (JoJo Effect Remix)] [Betty Boop presents Electro Swing] [887kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
15:33:31 <lady-3jane> Out on Mazanella beach G.I. romance with native peach All night long make tropic love Next day sit in hot sun and cool off
15:35:24 <lady-3jane> NP: [Tom Zé - Tropicalea Jact Est] [Tropicália Lixo Lógico] [320kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
15:36:04 <lady-3jane> mmk, brazil is on my list of places to go
15:36:21 <lady-3jane> tropicalia, tom zé, and consei de ser sexy? fuck yeah
15:36:29 <lady-3jane> cansei *
15:36:43 <lady-3jane> NP: [Cansei de Ser Sexy - Let's make love and listen death from above] [Cansei de Ser Sexy] [1048kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
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16:09:47 <joepie91> rofl
16:09:56 <joepie91> talk from brewster kahle from the internet archive
16:10:02 <joepie91> listing where they have copies of their data
16:10:39 <joepie91> "we have san francisco, amsterdam, and alexandria in egypt.. an earthquake zone, the middle east and a flood zone - what could go wrong?!"
16:17:18 <MK_FG> Heheh
16:17:30 <waflel> hai joepie91
16:17:48 <MK_FG> Wasn't alexandria lib burned at least once in history already, too?
16:18:23 <MK_FG> (I mean ancient paper-book thing, not dc)
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16:45:20 <joepie91> hai waflel
16:45:21 <joepie91> MK_FG: yes
16:45:32 <joepie91> the library of alexandria did indeed burn
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18:43:36 <pzuraq> anyone else having issues connecting to freenode?
18:44:18 <monod> I have none
18:44:55 <pzuraq> I'm getting (kCFStreamErrorDomainSSL error -9844.)
18:45:14 <pzuraq> and connection timed out
18:45:23 <monod> I can only imagine a bad SSL certificate
18:45:28 <iceTwy> Yeah pzuraq
18:45:35 <monod> but I've no competence in the field
18:45:40 <joepie91> certificate mismatch it sounds like
18:45:41 <iceTwy> I think Freenode is being DDoS'd rather harshly
18:45:47 <pzuraq> :<
18:45:51 <iceTwy> but this looks like a SSL error yup
18:45:53 <joepie91> or rather, certificate data mismatch
18:46:16 <pzuraq> Why would someone DDoS freenode? that's just shitty
18:46:26 <iceTwy> iunno
18:46:26 <iceTwy> retards y know
18:46:48 <joepie91> pzuraq, check your date/time
18:46:48 <pzuraq> yeah
18:46:58 <pzuraq> hmm?
18:47:02 <pzuraq> It seems correct
18:47:05 <joepie91> judging from a quick google search
18:47:11 <joepie91> it sounds like a cert expiry or date/time mismatch
18:47:15 <joepie91> either on your side
18:47:16 <joepie91> or on that of freenode
18:47:33 <pzuraq> how do I check date/time?
18:48:12 <joepie91> well, sync your own box with a timeserver
18:48:12 <pzuraq> like, system date/time?
18:48:13 <joepie91> :P
18:48:20 <pzuraq> it is synced
18:48:23 <joepie91> also, try using a different more verbose client
18:48:26 <pzuraq> not sure with which though >.>
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18:49:19 <iceTwy> check the certificate date
18:49:21 <iceTwy> simple as this lol
18:50:23 * pzuraq knows little to nothing about certs >.>
18:50:26 <pzuraq> try as I might
18:50:46 <pzuraq> I wanted to set up my own email server once... spent about a week hacking away at it
18:50:51 <pzuraq> got nowhere fast
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19:11:10 *** Aero is now known as Ari
19:11:14 <Ari> Guys
19:11:21 <Ari> LightPPD, Apache, or NGINX?
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19:12:38 <iceTwy> joepie91: ^
19:12:48 <MK_FG> nginx
19:13:15 <MK_FG> pzuraq, "[22:30:52]-christel- [Global Notice] As you may have noticed we appear to have trotted over the grumpy troll's bridge -- the network is currently being attacked and as a result we're temporarily without services as we work to get a working copy of the db fired up elsewhere. Apologies for the inconvenience."
19:13:24 <MK_FG> pzuraq, "[23:53:22]-mist- [Global Notice] Sorry for the continued lack of services, we're currently moving it to an alternate location. Thanks for your patience."
19:13:29 <MK_FG> pzuraq, (about freenode)
19:13:48 <Ari> nginx it is
19:14:05 <pzuraq> Ari: nginx all the way
19:14:10 <pzuraq> MK_FG: Thanks
19:14:31 <MK_FG> That was ~1h ago, btw
19:14:35 <pzuraq> I don't know much about LightPPD, but Apache is just so bloated
19:14:48 <MK_FG> (timestamps w/o tz are quite useless, alas)
19:15:27 <MK_FG> lighty seem to be falling behind feature-wise badly
19:15:47 <MK_FG> And devs there were quite weird last time I checked
19:16:22 <MK_FG> There are bugs like e.g. webdav-locking bug where they say something like "wontfix, don't want to"
19:17:01 <MK_FG> And I think it still uses 1-pid-only model, while nginx scales to whatever number of cores with workers
19:17:20 <MK_FG> </nginx-praises>
19:17:21 <pzuraq> nginx is just excellent
19:17:31 <pzuraq> fast, configurable, works with everything
19:17:32 <pzuraq> brilliance
19:18:13 <MK_FG> I resent it's config format
19:18:34 <MK_FG> It's kinda ok, but very easy to make mistakes in
19:18:46 <MK_FG> And built around "everything is a special case" motto
19:20:09 <MK_FG> Oh, and it's insane handling of rewrite directives!
19:20:11 <joepie91> Ari: lighttpd imo
19:20:15 <joepie91> but nginx is alright too
19:20:21 <joepie91> if it's just static files, then definitely nginx
19:20:28 <joepie91> also
19:20:28 <joepie91>
19:20:38 <MK_FG> ...where you can get segfault with a few nested if's and it's not even a bug!
19:20:48 <MK_FG> (plus whatever arbitrary behavior)
19:20:59 <joepie91> iceTwy, see above
19:23:39 <joepie91>
19:30:12 <iceTwy> hmmmmmmmm?
19:31:36 <iceTwy> lol i'm so bad at this
19:38:43 <HiveResearch> hai joepie91
19:38:46 <HiveResearch> PM
19:38:58 <joepie91> hi HiveResearch
19:39:02 <joepie91> finally, we're both here
19:39:03 <joepie91> :P
19:39:15 <HiveResearch> how goeseth
19:39:50 <joepie91> busy busy
19:39:51 <joepie91> but, pm
19:39:55 <HiveResearch> funny how was about to do summin and internets went out for 5 days
19:44:07 <joepie91> heh
19:44:10 <joepie91> murphys law etc
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19:51:20 <HiveResearch> joepie91: PMs and thx
19:57:50 <EmptyRedData> Ohai joepie91
19:58:06 <joepie91> hai
19:58:12 <joepie91> I was exceedingly kept busy yesterday
19:58:15 <joepie91> sorry for not getting back to you
19:58:15 <joepie91> :P
19:58:31 <EmptyRedData> No worries. What's up?
19:59:31 <joepie91> not much right now
19:59:36 <joepie91> other than being annoyed at everything lagging
19:59:36 <joepie91> >.>
20:00:44 <EmptyRedData> Ah. I got z-lined from anonops last night for "autism" lol.
20:01:05 <joepie91> well, it's anonops
20:06:52 <Ari> god damnit joepie91
20:06:55 <Ari> i'm gonna spend like
20:07:01 <Ari> half an hour
20:07:05 <Ari> on this stupid color thing
20:07:16 <joepie91> lol
20:07:30 <Ari> aaaagh i swear one of these is wrong
20:07:32 <Ari> -shoots self-
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20:47:46 <Ari> someone here willing to help me set up a webserver in virtualbox?
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21:20:07 * GUIDOMARI Hello
21:20:26 <Ari> uhh
21:20:27 <Ari> why /me
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21:22:43 <GUIDOMARI> Hello
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22:14:24 <mama> ebola
22:14:38 <ebola> mama
22:15:14 <mama> hey!! i started being desperate!! haha
22:15:31 <ebola> I have been busy mama
22:15:33 <ebola> I sorry
22:15:34 <mama> pm ebola pls :)
22:15:47 <mama> i know honey, i never blame you
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23:16:10 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03Envoy on branch 10feature/api-vcard: '02Add vCard stuff to existing API calls, and fix documentation' (
23:19:33 <pzuraq> joepie91: Have you heard of Meteor?
23:21:44 <HiveResearch> well that color test I got 16
23:25:11 <zest> .bitcoin
23:25:12 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $83.86, 1 BTC = €65.76
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23:58:52 <joepie91> pzuraq: I may very well have, it sounds like a generic name