Cryto! 29 June 2013

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01:07:14 <crytocc-c> joepie91, you sleepin or awake?
01:13:09 <iceTwy|Movie> they sleepin I think
01:13:16 <iceTwy|Movie> cc crytocc-c
01:13:29 <crytocc-c> hm
01:13:34 <crytocc-c> oh well. I'll catch him tmrw then
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02:08:32 <lady-3jane> I *really* wish linux's oom-killer did anything
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05:07:09 <Angelina> slapyouwithatroutwithoutadoubt
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05:48:57 <AnonO_o> hai
07:02:29 <waflel> hai
07:10:38 <waflel> WHERE IS JOEPIE
07:10:52 <waflel> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ THIS IS RIDICULOUS
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10:18:32 <iceTwy> hi
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10:41:11 <twitchyliquid64> iceTwy: ah, I was watching a movie too
10:42:46 <iceTwy> heh, I watched a movie 8h ago
10:55:32 <twitchyliquid64> iceTwy: thats what i mean
10:55:37 <twitchyliquid64> hooked up as well
10:55:37 <twitchyliquid64> :D
10:55:46 <twitchyliquid64> It just sort of happened
10:56:16 <iceTwy> ^^
10:57:06 <twitchyliquid64> ive never done it before
10:57:10 <twitchyliquid64> omggg
10:57:41 <iceTwy> what?
10:58:24 <monod> does Debian intend to replace gnome2 with gnome3? :'(
10:58:31 <monod> as far as you know..
10:59:04 <twitchyliquid64> monod: WE ARE TALKING SOME SERIOUSZ BUSINESSZ :P
10:59:21 <monod> O_O
10:59:27 <monod> *runs away
10:59:28 <monod> *
10:59:34 <twitchyliquid64> iceTwy: I mean, Im shit at dealing with girls. But something clicked.
10:59:45 <iceTwy> Oooh
10:59:49 <iceTwy> Grats ;)
11:00:06 <monod> oh, when did you start talking about girls??
11:00:12 <monod> maybe before I joined
11:00:15 <twitchyliquid64> 06:55 < twitchyliquid64> hooked up as well
11:00:25 <twitchyliquid64> ^
11:00:36 <monod> oh, sorry then, I did not get the english expression
11:01:06 <monod> is there no dictionaries for english expressions rather than words?
11:01:07 <twitchyliquid64> monod: np, do you have that expression in your language?
11:01:22 <monod> hmm, not really twitchyliquid64
11:01:25 <twitchyliquid64> monod: 'urban dictionary' is a good reference, but its all in english
11:02:00 <monod> oh, it's not a problem, because I used it very much and always find it good, but it seemed to contain non-serious things
11:02:41 <twitchyliquid64> okay
11:03:06 <monod> "When 2 people kiss and/or fuck." O_O
11:03:17 <monod> you've goen far beyond what I expected from "hooked up"
11:03:24 <monod> (lulz)
11:03:46 <twitchyliquid64> just kiss
11:03:56 <twitchyliquid64> depends on the context
11:04:03 <monod> 'lrigth
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11:33:07 <monod>
11:33:16 <monod> epic ping pong in stop motion
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15:06:16 <monod> alright, the debian guys on #debian have just told me I have broken my distro! whooohoo!
15:06:31 <monod> crytocc-c, of course there are!
15:06:48 <crytocc-c> lol monod how'd you break it?
15:06:58 <monod> going from squeeze to jessie in one update
15:07:02 <crytocc-c> lol!
15:07:05 <iceTwy> LOGGYYYYYY
15:07:06 <iceTwy> POINTER
15:07:06 <monod> in their opinion
15:07:11 <iceTwy> aka
15:07:13 <iceTwy> loggy, pointer?
15:07:13 <loggy>
15:07:30 <crytocc-c> if anyone would want to help: I'm making a control panel for hosting my files, I want to make it so it uses accounts on server to login
15:07:35 <crytocc-c> and view files under the accounts on server.
15:07:43 <crytocc-c> but only the account you're logged in as.
15:07:44 <crytocc-c> any ideas?
15:07:53 <monod> me not
15:07:53 <crytocc-c> centos = base os for this.
15:07:54 <monod> sorry
15:08:05 <monod> (unexperienced)
15:08:24 <crytocc-c> I was considering LDAP, but just too much work. There must be a simpler way
15:15:26 <monod> going to backup now guys.. see you!..
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15:20:48 <crytocc-c> k
15:23:34 <MK_FG> If it's deployed on the same server which has the accounts, just use pam
15:24:31 <MK_FG> Though you might need some suid script/binary (e.g. sudo) to check passwords on login, as password hashes are usually kept in /etc/shadow
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15:29:14 <crytocc-c> MK_FG what do you mean?
15:29:22 <crytocc-c> Its on the exact same server as the accounts.
15:30:48 <crytocc-c> Can I use PAM to also read files in user account?
15:31:33 <MK_FG> No, just to check whether credentials match, change these and start/end user sessions
15:31:54 <crytocc-c> How would I only read files belonging to logged in user and prevent them from exiting owned directory then?
15:32:16 <MK_FG> chroot or mount namespace can work
15:32:29 <crytocc-c> ex: root owns /var/www/html/, user1 owns: /var/www/html/domainhere.tld/
15:32:50 <crytocc-c> Never heard of chroot before.
15:32:54 <crytocc-c> Lemme google it
15:33:03 <MK_FG> But if you authenticate via pam (and you should), then you can also change uid/gid after auth, as you have to be root to use pam anyway
15:33:17 <MK_FG> (usually, because of /etc/shadow perms)
15:33:19 <crytocc-c> so, if pam returns true, can I set a regular PHP session, yes?
15:33:52 <MK_FG> Not sure if php has some pam module
15:34:32 <crytocc-c> It has pam abilities
15:34:34 <MK_FG> But in simple case, you can do "sudo /my/secure/script" which would check pam and then do setresuid()
15:34:36 <crytocc-c> to be used on POSIX
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15:35:05 <crytocc-c> that shows you can check if user exists, then how would I check if password is correct or not?
15:35:41 <MK_FG> You have to use something like pam_authenticate
15:36:08 <MK_FG> I don't think pam is really posix, just part of glibc, usually
15:37:01 <crytocc-c> hmm
15:37:04 <crytocc-c> ill google
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15:44:24 <crytocc-c> hm
15:44:29 <crytocc-c> I can't find it on phps website.
15:44:34 <crytocc-c> Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
15:46:14 <MK_FG> Probably not there,
15:46:45 <crytocc-c> - it has a check_pass function
15:46:48 <crytocc-c> I'll give it a go.
15:47:09 <crytocc-c> hmm
15:47:15 <crytocc-c> i'll have to find their classes though
15:47:16 <crytocc-c> (ugh)
15:48:10 <MK_FG> "The backend requires the PHP PAM module to be installed", it's the same link as above pecl thing
15:48:45 <crytocc-c> I know,
15:48:56 <crytocc-c> I just don't quite understand how to use it.
15:49:07 <MK_FG>
15:49:13 <MK_FG> " bool pam_auth(string $username, string $password [, string &$error [ $checkacctmgmt = true ] ])"
15:49:22 <MK_FG> And tada - true/false
15:50:21 <MK_FG> You might want to set servicename there to same thing as used for logins though, like local-login or remote-login
16:01:11 <iceTwy> rejoice, WOmen
16:01:15 <iceTwy> joepie91 is no longer sick pie
16:08:01 <joepie91> lol
16:08:27 * lady-3jane giggles
16:08:31 <lady-3jane>
16:08:40 <lady-3jane> NP: [Cansei de Ser Sexy - Let's make love and listen death from above] [Cansei de Ser Sexy] [1048kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:08:41 <lady-3jane> ^
16:08:46 <lady-3jane> <3<3<3<3<3
16:11:06 <iceTwy> Here's my song of the moment
16:11:22 <iceTwy> ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Jeff Loomis - Sibylline Origin - Plains Of Oblivion (2012) // 1014kbps
16:11:23 <lady-3jane> is it more emo rock?
16:11:26 <iceTwy> no
16:11:30 <iceTwy> emo rock
16:11:31 <iceTwy> please die
16:11:33 <lady-3jane> cause you kept posting those in chan
16:11:36 <iceTwy> LOL
16:11:44 <iceTwy> I don't listen to emo rock, nubhead
16:11:53 <iceTwy> clearly you despise metal
16:11:57 <lady-3jane> it's sort of like softrock with lots of whining
16:12:05 <lady-3jane> I do, yes, but I'm not talking about metal
16:12:07 <iceTwy> cuz you didn't listen to the rest
16:12:27 <lady-3jane> nope
16:12:31 <iceTwy> there
16:12:32 <iceTwy> lol
16:12:37 <lady-3jane> I hear metal from someone and I refuse to listen to any other links
16:12:46 * iceTwy rolls his eyes around
16:12:51 <iceTwy> that's bigotry
16:12:51 <iceTwy> :<
16:12:56 <lady-3jane> Yes, it is.
16:12:58 <joepie91> current status of pie: minor throat slime issues
16:13:01 <joepie91> minor nosebleed issues
16:13:10 <joepie91> and headache issues when I try to work on too complex things
16:13:13 <lady-3jane> I'm not shamed about disliking several entire genres of music
16:13:14 <iceTwy> when is node pie going to be 100% active
16:13:30 <joepie91> read: I'll probably be spending this weekend doing random odd jobs that don't require much thought
16:13:39 <joepie91> but still need doing
16:13:59 <lady-3jane> better:
16:13:59 <lady-3jane> NP: [Sublime - Smoke Two Joints] [40oz. To Freedom] [810kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:14:01 <joepie91> CVM API would actually be a good one to be working on now
16:14:05 <joepie91> doesn't require much thought
16:14:10 <joepie91> but first
16:14:14 <joepie91> need to turn on streamripper again
16:14:28 <joepie91> got 250GB of storage elsewhere so I can offload my existing MP3s so I don't have to care about those for a while
16:14:35 <joepie91> and run streamripper on my archive box in the meantime
16:14:42 <joepie91> (I ran out of disk space on my archive box...)
16:15:19 <joepie91> 197/200GB disk used or so
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16:15:32 <lady-3jane> :3
16:16:02 <iceTwy> I approve of this:
16:16:02 <iceTwy> ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Sigur Rós - Ný Batterí - Ágætis Byrjun (1999) // 2722kbps
16:16:33 <joepie91> (effectively all of the data I send from one to another server for archival purposes, is shuttled through that box...)
16:19:00 <lady-3jane> :>
16:19:11 <lady-3jane> I've heard of sigur ros, no idea if they're any good
16:19:18 * lady-3jane assumes no
16:19:30 <MK_FG> ^^^ "prismbox"
16:19:40 <lady-3jane> hahahahaha
16:19:42 <iceTwy> what
16:19:43 <joepie91> haha
16:19:45 <iceTwy> derp lady-3jane
16:19:46 <iceTwy> DERP
16:19:47 <iceTwy> DERP DERP
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16:20:20 <lady-3jane> iceTwy:) there are about 150 things I hate in music and about 3-5 I like. It's usually a safe assumption that I'll hate anything anybody plays.
16:20:56 <iceTwy> b-b-but
16:21:36 <lady-3jane> male singer? hate it. slow pacing? hate it. country/rap/metal/emo/complaining/doesn't-have-progressive-stuffs? hate it.
16:21:38 <joepie91> lol
16:21:52 <lady-3jane> should I continue listing things I hate? :D
16:21:53 <joepie91> vbgfgh
16:21:56 <joepie91> ffs, cat
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16:22:07 <joepie91> cat panicked and ran over my keyboard -_-
16:22:15 * lady-3jane grins
16:22:51 <lady-3jane> NP: [Swedish House Mafia ft. John Martin - Don't You Worry Child (Radio Edit)] [Don't You Worry Child] [1034kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:23:09 <joepie91> brb
16:26:05 <lady-3jane> I have a somewhat legitimate fear that the first time I do acid or mushrooms I'm going to end up losing my ego and merging physically with the internet
16:26:10 <lady-3jane> I'm not sure how I feel about that
16:28:31 <lady-3jane> I think mostly it's going to be matrix and johnny mnemonic references for days
16:28:39 <iceTwy> wot
16:28:45 <iceTwy> acid will decide what happens
16:28:51 <iceTwy> should I say
16:28:53 <iceTwy> your mind
16:29:02 <lady-3jane> yes
16:29:07 <iceTwy> if you're on acid there's no point denying what you see
16:29:12 <iceTwy> or fearing something
16:29:19 <lady-3jane> I'm pretty well connected with myself
16:29:19 <iceTwy> no point in*
16:29:27 <lady-3jane> I think you don't understand what I'm doing :>
16:30:09 <lady-3jane> hmm
16:30:26 <lady-3jane> I hope I get a moment of clarity
16:30:31 <lady-3jane> that would be cool.
16:30:35 <iceTwy> that's the point of acid
16:30:38 <iceTwy> inner reflection
16:30:48 <lady-3jane> those words have meaning outside the phrase
16:31:28 <iceTwy> you're just worrying too much
16:31:38 <lady-3jane> Always
16:31:58 <lady-3jane> I will always worry
16:32:25 <lady-3jane> I get world altering hallucinations from weed... it concerns me what a real hallucinogen would do
16:32:50 <iceTwy> Then start with something lighter than LSD
16:32:59 <lady-3jane> what's lighter?
16:38:53 <lady-3jane> NP: [Phi - Plz Pass Me Beer & Acid] [Phinalizer] [979kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:39:24 <lady-3jane>
16:39:27 <iceTwy> :p
16:39:33 <lady-3jane> for you :P
16:39:52 <lady-3jane> some groups never get old... phi is one of em
16:40:30 <lady-3jane> which reminds me, I have another 40gigs of this shit to listen through
16:41:15 <crytocc-c> hm, okay I figured out pam
16:41:18 <crytocc-c> pretty simple now.
16:47:45 <lady-3jane> hmm, looks like I'm going to sf
16:47:59 <iceTwy> hehe
16:48:02 <lady-3jane> mmmm
16:48:03 <lady-3jane> NP: [Phi - Afrobad] [Phinalizer] [989kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:48:14 <joepie91> drugs are bad mmk
16:48:25 * lady-3jane pimpslaps joepie91
16:49:37 <lady-3jane> HAIL SATAN
16:49:38 <lady-3jane> NP: [Parov Stelar - Matilda] [Coco] [915kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:49:51 <iceTwy> LOL
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16:50:13 <lady-3jane> maybe more like
16:50:14 <lady-3jane> NP: [Tenacious D - Beelzeboss (The Final Showdown)] [The Pick of Destiny] [970kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
16:50:18 <lady-3jane> cause, satan and shit
16:50:26 <iceTwy> do you want Satan
16:50:31 <iceTwy> listen to Dimmu Borgir or smth
16:50:46 <lady-3jane> this song is almost too much metal for my tastes
16:50:47 <lady-3jane> lol
16:51:34 <lady-3jane> man, unity is so heavy
16:51:41 <lady-3jane> I don't get how they think this is an improvement
16:51:45 <lady-3jane> maybe with mir it will be
16:54:46 <iceTwy> lady-3jane: y u no like metal
16:54:57 <iceTwy> oh also
16:55:01 <lady-3jane> because it's boring and most of the singers suck shit through 10 bricks
16:55:05 <iceTwy> lol
16:55:07 <iceTwy> fuck singers
16:55:12 <iceTwy> and get some good instrumental bands
16:55:19 <lady-3jane> those are even worse
16:55:20 <iceTwy> Scale the Summit, Animals as Leaders
16:55:21 <iceTwy> no
16:55:29 <iceTwy> you can't enjoy proper, well composed music
16:55:31 * iceTwy rages
16:55:37 <lady-3jane> that's correct
16:55:43 <lady-3jane> because it's not what I'm interested in
16:55:54 <lady-3jane> So many people freak out when I say I hate classical
16:56:01 <iceTwy> oh
16:56:02 <iceTwy> there ya go then
16:56:10 <iceTwy> well I wouldn't freak out
16:56:14 <iceTwy> but yeah, explains it
16:56:15 <lady-3jane> The classical I like just so happens to be classical, it's not "classical" classical.
16:56:28 <lady-3jane> which is to say, one song
16:56:29 <lady-3jane> lol
16:57:12 <lady-3jane> this is the only one:
16:57:42 <lady-3jane> It does some of the things I like in other music
16:57:50 <lady-3jane> my interest has never been and will never be genre based
16:57:53 <lady-3jane> :/
16:58:16 * lady-3jane dances
16:58:28 <iceTwy> why don't you like metal then
16:58:33 <iceTwy> that's a genre
16:58:38 <iceTwy> so is classical
16:58:50 <lady-3jane> so... just like rap, it doesn't often have the stuff I'm looking for
16:58:53 <iceTwy> or actually I think I misunderstood your point
16:59:13 <lady-3jane> you're continuing to frame everything as genres, so yes you have misunderstood
16:59:38 <lady-3jane> ahhh, vivaldi
16:59:42 * lady-3jane dances
17:00:29 <lady-3jane> everyone always tries to... find music I like based on how /they/ understand music
17:00:36 <lady-3jane> never based on how /I/ understand music
17:02:06 <lady-3jane> I generally hate the beatles too
17:02:16 <lady-3jane> but, this is one of my favorite songs
17:02:17 <lady-3jane> NP: [The Beatles - Get Back] [Let It Be... Naked ] [787kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:02:40 <iceTwy> meh
17:02:45 <iceTwy> Rolling Stones > Beatles
17:02:48 <iceTwy> all day long
17:03:09 <lady-3jane> I have... 5 of their songs?
17:03:56 <lady-3jane> these two are okay, but not in love
17:03:58 <lady-3jane> NP: [Rolling Stones, The - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction] [DigiCats 500 Greatest Songs Of The Rock Era] [907kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:04:04 <lady-3jane> NP: [The Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want] [Let It Bleed] [870kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:04:30 <lady-3jane> oooooh
17:04:37 <lady-3jane> NP: [Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams] [American Idiot] [282kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:04:48 <lady-3jane> this song was absolute beauty in concert
17:04:49 * iceTwy sees 282kbps
17:04:54 * iceTwy gets his rifle
17:04:54 * iceTwy boom
17:05:08 <lady-3jane> it's greenday, you really think they need better than v0?
17:05:12 <iceTwy> well
17:05:13 <iceTwy> no
17:05:15 <iceTwy> you're right
17:05:15 * lady-3jane grins
17:05:16 <iceTwy> lol
17:05:19 * iceTwy grins back
17:06:29 <lady-3jane> GEE EMM ESS!
17:07:00 <lady-3jane> goa psytrance remixes of adams family
17:07:01 <lady-3jane> LULZ
17:07:12 <iceTwy> ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Stevie Ray Vaughan - May I Have A Talk With You - The Sky Is Crying (1991) // 2983kbps
17:07:42 <lady-3jane> NP: [C.O.N.Sequencer feat. Milk - Cocaine Speaking] [Guitars on Mushroom Vol. 1 - CD 1] [872kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:08:03 <lady-3jane> mmm
17:08:09 <lady-3jane> guitar psytrance <3<3
17:08:29 <lady-3jane> hahaha
17:08:49 <lady-3jane> "they put an aids germ to a metronome beat and ted turner's colorizing them, god damnit!"
17:08:59 * lady-3jane kekekes
17:09:12 <lady-3jane> I have so much fucking psytrance
17:09:13 <lady-3jane> e.e
17:09:23 <iceTwy> love the name of the album
17:09:39 <lady-3jane> guitars on mushrooms? yeah
17:09:45 <lady-3jane> collection of guitar trance
17:09:45 <lady-3jane> :P
17:09:52 <iceTwy> most fucked up song
17:09:52 <iceTwy> ever
17:09:54 <iceTwy> ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Sunn O))) - O))) Bow 2 - Flight Of The Behemoth (2007) // 985kbps
17:09:59 <lady-3jane> NP: [Handsome Boy Modeling School - Rock & Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 (f.Lord Finesse, Mike Shinoda, Chester Bennington, Rahzel, Qbert] [White People] [856kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:10:26 <lady-3jane> this cd is most of the rap I'll tolerate
17:10:28 <crytocc-c> wow this is looking nice.
17:10:41 <iceTwy> This is my chillout song
17:10:45 <iceTwy> ♪ NP @ iceTwy ♪ - Zero 7 - When It Falls - When It Falls (2004) // 724kbps
17:10:46 <lady-3jane> love me some limp bizkit though
17:11:05 <lady-3jane> especially
17:11:05 <lady-3jane> NP: [Limp Bizkit - The One] [Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavored Water] [912kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:11:25 <lady-3jane> the fact that it has lyrics is incidental to its success
17:12:11 <lady-3jane> iceTwy:) if you want the music I like the most, I'll find a youtube of it
17:12:21 <iceTwy> okay
17:12:22 <iceTwy> :p
17:12:24 <lady-3jane> you may hate it, but it lets me explain what I'm looking for
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17:13:12 * lady-3jane fights with which song
17:13:46 <lady-3jane> mmm
17:14:09 <lady-3jane> agh this one makes the hair on my head stand up
17:14:18 <lady-3jane> not good enough, need all hair up
17:14:27 <iceTwy> LOL
17:16:43 <lady-3jane> here's the one you want
17:16:52 <lady-3jane> had to find a video where they didn't compress the channels
17:16:58 <lady-3jane> headphones only
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17:17:58 <lady-3jane> these songs play... the lead back and forth within the song, as if someone's traversing a metastructure
17:18:17 <lady-3jane> they hint like a book about where the song will go
17:18:52 <lady-3jane> that is a horrible recording, damn
17:19:13 <lady-3jane> better than the other e.e
17:20:00 <lady-3jane> NP: [Juno Reactor - Guardian Angel] [Beyond the Infinite] [836kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:25:56 <lady-3jane> mmm
17:25:57 <lady-3jane> NP: [Juno Reactor - Magnetic] [Beyond the Infinite] [740kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:29:05 <lady-3jane> hahaha
17:36:45 <lady-3jane> mmm
17:36:53 <lady-3jane> juno reactor was just what the doctor ordered
17:48:13 <MK_FG> They sound like crazy fanatics
17:48:53 <MK_FG> I mean fanatics of something weirdly orthodox, but fanatics nonetheless
17:50:39 <MK_FG> *unorthodox
17:52:14 <crytocc-c> ffs
18:11:52 <joepie91> it's unclear to me how exactly this happened
18:12:00 <joepie91> but the cat broke the flap of the litter bin
18:12:09 <joepie91> as in, one of the pins on the side broke off
18:13:39 *** iceTwy is now known as iceTwy|AFK
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18:24:24 <crytocc-c> anyone up for a challenge?
18:24:33 <crytocc-c> kid didn't secure his variables. Who thinks they can exploit it?
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18:33:13 <lady-3jane> hey joepie91 what's an alternate sound output for linux
18:33:16 <lady-3jane> other than pulse
18:33:52 <lady-3jane> apparently pulseaudio is the reason my sound lags like shit in wine
18:34:31 <MK_FG> jack?
18:34:34 <MK_FG> oss?
18:34:40 <MK_FG> plain alsa?
18:34:44 <lady-3jane> maybe?
18:35:00 <lady-3jane> what's diff between alsa and pulse?
18:35:01 <MK_FG> If pa is indeed a problem, use plain alsa
18:35:04 <lady-3jane> no lag?
18:35:05 <lady-3jane> lol
18:35:06 <lady-3jane> kk
18:35:18 <MK_FG> Alsa is mostly in-kernel
18:35:27 <lady-3jane> well that's where I want it
18:35:39 <MK_FG> Pulse uses it (and it's userspace libs), adding various features on top
18:36:25 <lady-3jane> hmm
18:36:34 <lady-3jane> it says I've got it already, but I can't choose it in wine
18:36:39 <lady-3jane> maybe I'll see if I don't have oss
18:37:02 <MK_FG> Nah, oss will be emulation on top of alsa anyway
18:37:12 <MK_FG> Check your /etc/asound.conf
18:37:51 <MK_FG> You probably have default pcm's set to pulse alsa plugin there, try wiping it, if so
18:38:08 <MK_FG> But maybe wine can be built w/o direct alsa support
18:38:18 <lady-3jane> not building wine e.e
18:38:39 <lady-3jane> it's wine 1.6rc3 hehe
18:38:43 <lady-3jane> rc4 incoming!
18:39:40 <MK_FG> It's probably config, no one would disable alsa there anyway
18:40:35 <lady-3jane> there is no asound.conf
18:40:45 <lady-3jane> or even anything that autocompletes asoun<tab>
18:46:58 <MK_FG> Seem to be /usr/share/alsa/ - from
19:01:08 <crytocc-c> hm
19:01:11 <crytocc-c> windows has no chroot()
19:01:12 <crytocc-c> :(
19:01:18 <crytocc-c> thats going to be a downer on testing... oh well
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19:16:15 <joepie91> crytocc-c: it almost seems as if you're suggesting Windows would have sane access control
19:16:16 <joepie91> :P
19:16:24 <crytocc-c> lol true.
19:16:33 <crytocc-c> im using it on linux now.
19:16:35 <crytocc-c> must easier.
19:17:41 <joepie91> so
19:17:42 <joepie91> MK_FG
19:17:51 <joepie91> it seems politics just got a whole lot more interesting
19:18:09 <joepie91> read: turns out US has been spying on EU and described EU as 'target' in sekrit documents
19:18:19 <joepie91> can't wait for the resulting fireworks
19:18:34 <iceTwy|AFK> what
19:18:35 <iceTwy|AFK> lol
19:18:36 <iceTwy|AFK> link
19:18:41 *** iceTwy|AFK is now known as iceTwy
19:20:01 <joepie91> iceTwy:
19:21:25 <iceTwy> loooooooooooool
19:33:52 <MK_FG> Oh crapz
19:34:13 <MK_FG> Now ITU goons will take over and divide all the internets
19:37:35 <MK_FG> Though I like that it seem to be the natural process of breaking the monopolies
19:38:05 <MK_FG> Hopefully they'll also realize that apple and google phones are same breed of spyware
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19:38:30 <MK_FG> And start developing or at least pushing for alternatives all around
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20:10:49 <iceTwy> ffs
20:10:56 <iceTwy> too much drugs talk wherever I go on IRC
20:11:03 <iceTwy> it's getting kinda sickening
20:12:34 <joepie91> eh.
20:12:37 <joepie91> .startgh
20:12:40 <botpie91> Now watching GitHub for users joepie91, iceTwy, FichteFoll, cam1337, codetalkdev, shiny.
20:12:54 <joepie91> iceTwy: drugs are bad mmk
20:12:55 <joepie91> :P
20:13:02 <iceTwy> mhm
20:13:04 <iceTwy> but
20:13:13 <iceTwy> conversations in IRC chans just randomly turn to drugs
20:13:23 <joepie91> yes
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20:28:54 <iceTwy> gah
20:28:59 <iceTwy> I feel like utter shit
20:29:14 <joepie91> why?
20:29:23 <iceTwy> tired and groggy and not clean
20:30:07 <joepie91> why? :P
20:36:16 <iceTwy> oh you
20:36:22 <iceTwy> because I was lazy to do anything today
20:37:37 <monod> I think.. that joepie would ask again: why?
20:39:02 <iceTwy> let joepie91 ask then
20:39:03 <iceTwy> :p
20:40:16 <monod> Yup
20:58:04 <crytocc-c> ffs
20:58:28 <monod> learning how to backup things with TAR
21:03:25 <joepie91> I find it interesting how the past 2 weeks have basically been an endless waterfall of "I told you so!" for the crypto community
21:03:45 <iceTwy> hmm
21:03:57 <joepie91> as in, the people that were quick to dismiss the crypto community as 'paranoid', are now finding out that said crypto community had a point (or rather, many points) after all
21:06:26 <iceTwy> develop
21:07:39 <joepie91> iceTwy: we are not your git repo
21:07:40 <joepie91> :P
21:07:51 <iceTwy> :p
21:12:03 <crytocc-c> joepie91 wanna help me with some php?
21:12:15 <crytocc-c> it won't let me save files using php...
21:16:44 <crytocc-c> fixed
21:17:40 <monod> at times is just useful to ask in public to understand what you did not understand before
21:17:48 <joepie91> ^
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21:19:54 <monod> heY mAmA, heY sExY!
21:19:59 <monod> sorry, had to.
21:19:59 <iceTwy> I'll second that monod
21:20:12 <monod> second? :D
21:20:15 <iceTwy> What lava looks like when it's poured over ice:
21:20:16 <iceTwy>
21:20:22 <monod> looking it up
21:20:28 <iceTwy> Seconding what someone says is essentially supporting it
21:20:41 <monod> owww, right
21:20:47 <monod> dictionary expanded +1
21:20:50 <mama> monod ?? sex problems??
21:21:35 <monod> hahaha, nope (actually... xD), just a quote from Fast and furious soundtracks I think
21:22:53 <monod> hopefully one day I'll have audio too. lulz
21:25:58 <monod> what bravery is all about:
21:26:08 <monod> (found on
21:30:07 <iceTwy> dat bike
21:31:16 <monod> dat ladder
21:31:36 <monod> dat helmet.. hey, wait a minute!?
21:40:37 <monod> <monod> thanks
21:40:37 <monod> <dpkg> no problem, monod
21:40:37 <monod> <monod> thank you
21:40:37 <monod> <dpkg> my pleasure, monod
21:40:38 <monod> lulz
21:40:39 <monod> ircbots
21:44:58 <monod> you want to know this: my out-of-date-ness was due to my sourcers.list file, I guess
21:45:25 <monod> because it was linked to squeeze and not to the next available stable release of debian
21:45:57 <monod> it's quite fun to read hacking tips on #debian atm xD
21:46:12 <monod> (and debian things in here, as well)
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23:08:05 <crytocc-c> hm
23:08:06 <crytocc-c> pecl is broken
23:08:07 <crytocc-c> damnit
23:09:11 <crytocc-c> brightside I got it to autoinstall and configure phpmyadmin
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23:11:03 <crytocc-c> any ideas? checking for PAM support... yes, shared
23:11:04 <crytocc-c> configure: error: install the the PAM library or use --with-pam=DIR to specify the location.
23:11:04 <crytocc-c> ERROR: `/tmp/pear/install/pam/configure' failed
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23:34:52 <crytocc-c> got pam fixed.
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23:46:24 <crytocc-c> Anyone know how to use php pam?