Cryto! 21 June 2013

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00:20:02 <iceTwy> joepie91: do you really pay 7-8€/year + hosting fees to just put a single image on
00:20:14 <joepie91> iceTwy: I don't actually own
00:20:14 <joepie91> :P
00:20:21 <iceTwy> oh?
00:20:38 <ShadowDemon> Lol
00:22:47 <joepie91> iceTwy
00:22:51 <joepie91> .lookup
00:22:52 <botpie91> DNS records for
00:22:53 <botpie91> SOA: 2013022403 172800 900 1209600 3600
00:22:54 <botpie91> NS:,,
00:22:55 <botpie91> A:
00:23:03 <joepie91> go to
00:23:04 <joepie91> :P
00:23:51 <joepie91>
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00:47:34 <iceTwy> joepie91: omfg DAT PZIZA
00:47:50 <iceTwy> can I have a bite?
00:49:10 <joepie91> lol
00:49:12 <joepie91> it's all gone :D
00:49:23 <joepie91> interestingly. it's just a frozen Lidl pizza with some extra cheese and parsley
00:49:30 <joepie91> tasted pretty damn good though
00:49:34 <joepie91> one of the better pizzas I've had
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00:57:54 <lady-3jane> NP: [Dick Dale - Miserlou] [Guitar Legend: The Very Best Of Dick Dale] [158kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
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00:58:38 <lady-3jane> foolex:) you should actually drop by sometime
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01:15:25 <ShadowDemon> Hello world!
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01:19:24 <ShadowDemon> Neat.
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01:24:15 <joepie91> time to sleep
01:24:15 <joepie91> night
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01:30:41 <waflel> nn joepie91
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01:46:01 <AnonO_o> hai
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01:52:21 <AnonO_o> every day updates to suse.
01:52:35 <AnonO_o> last update clobbered booting my encrypted partition
01:52:40 <AnonO_o> I guess grub was unhappy
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02:34:43 <Nutter> whats occuring?
02:36:27 <AnonO_o> my pepsi is getting flat
02:37:31 <Nutter> thats the thing with pepsi, its the bubbles you see
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06:29:17 <Cryto420> !staff
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06:35:25 <lady-3jane> no.
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09:01:30 <monod> have you heard about litecoinz?
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10:14:18 <iceTwy> hai
11:26:02 <iceTwy> .whois
11:26:02 <botpie91> Domain, registered on 042013-06-19T00:00:00 via 04INTERNET.BS CORP, expires on 04unknown, nameservers are,, contact e-mails are,,
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12:03:40 <joepie91> monod: yes
12:03:44 <joepie91> litecoins are kind of pointless
12:07:03 <joepie91> see, the thing is that the primary touted feature of litecoin is that it's "GPU-hostile"
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12:07:15 <joepie91> and that it generally requires more memory to mine
12:07:33 <joepie91> which is all nice and dandy, except, even by their _own_ admission, eventually ASICs will be developed that can deal with Litecoin just fine
12:07:40 <joepie91> and it'll suffer from the exact same problems that Bitcoin does now
12:07:46 <joepie91> it's really not much more than a temporary patch
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12:53:12 <iceTwy> erm, joepie91, not too sure about the ASIC part
12:53:25 <iceTwy> they say that ASICs can't possibly be developed for LTC
12:53:25 <joepie91> ?
12:53:30 <joepie91> uh, yes they can
12:53:33 <iceTwy> unless I haven't been keeping up the news?
12:53:39 <iceTwy> with*
12:53:43 <iceTwy> btw;
12:53:50 <joepie91> litecoin site:
12:53:52 <joepie91> "It is unlikely for ASIC mining to be developed for Litecoin until the currency is widely used."
12:54:04 <joepie91> which is kind of a shitty reason to recommend litecoin over bitcoin
12:54:28 <joepie91> @ iceTwy
12:54:37 <iceTwy> oh okay
12:55:23 <iceTwy> yeah cause I remembered reading on their site that ASIC couldn't possibly be developed for LTC
12:55:24 <iceTwy> but well
12:56:06 <joepie91> that's inherently bullshit
12:56:07 <joepie91> lol
12:56:10 <joepie91> the whole point of an ASIC
12:56:17 <joepie91> is to be an Application Specific Integrated Circuit
12:56:26 <joepie91> it'd just be different from a Bitcoin ASIC
12:57:23 <iceTwy> exactly
12:58:17 <iceTwy> can botpie91 check the current price of a LTC?
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13:43:18 <joepie91> iceTwy: not yet
13:43:22 <joepie91> also, the fuck is going on here
13:43:28 <iceTwy> hmm?
13:43:34 <joepie91> someone got electrocuted today (probably at the funfair, which they're setting up)
13:43:40 <joepie91> and just now I walked back home
13:43:54 <joepie91> and came by an old man sitting on the ground with a head wound, police and ambulance personnel around it
13:43:59 <joepie91> as if he was attacked by someone
13:44:00 <joepie91> wtf
13:44:19 <joepie91> lots of misfortune here today
13:49:18 <zxcvbnm> hm
13:49:23 <zxcvbnm> sry to hear that
13:52:47 <zxcvbnm> better keep your head up and watch out :P
13:55:58 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: I have a tendency of lucking out of accidents
13:56:00 <joepie91> for some reason
13:56:16 <joepie91> basically, whenever something happens that involves me
13:56:22 <joepie91> imagine the most positive scenario
13:56:25 <joepie91> and that's what I get
13:56:26 <joepie91> :|
13:57:23 <joepie91> I've had two house fires that ended with minimal damage
13:57:36 <joepie91> been in a car accident when I was little that should have been deadly, but wasn't
13:57:55 <joepie91> been attacked by someone smashing my face with his shoes, literally millimeters away from hitting the wrong place and killing me
13:58:01 <joepie91> etc
13:58:32 <joepie91> oh, been in an almost-car-accident because icy roads, ended with our car and the one in front of us stopping literally 3 centimeters apart
13:58:45 <joepie91> despite sliding all over the road, and somehow avoiding every obstacle
13:59:56 <zxcvbnm> the shoes thing i'll never understand
14:00:02 <zxcvbnm> cultural thing I guess
14:00:04 <joepie91> lolwut
14:00:10 <joepie91> not sure if joke or genuine misunderstanding
14:00:14 <zxcvbnm> did you see the skills by GWB when he dodged that shoe thrower?
14:00:22 <joepie91> right
14:00:23 <joepie91> imagine this
14:00:32 <joepie91> you're pushed off a chair so you land on the ground
14:00:41 <joepie91> then someone, with heavy shoes on, starts stomping on your face
14:00:46 <joepie91> trying to smash it
14:00:53 <joepie91> that's roughly what happened
14:01:24 <joepie91> it was quite painful, but I haven't had any permanent damage or discomfort from it
14:01:26 <zxcvbnm> wtf
14:01:29 <joepie91> didn't even have a concussion, somehow
14:01:30 <zxcvbnm> that's garbage.
14:01:39 <zxcvbnm> well, glad you're ok
14:01:41 <joepie91> one sec
14:01:44 <joepie91> let me look up a word
14:02:01 <joepie91> right
14:02:07 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: you know your temples, yes?
14:02:08 <joepie91> on your head
14:02:14 <zxcvbnm> ya
14:02:24 <joepie91> if you get hit there the wrong way it's pretty much instant game over
14:02:30 <zxcvbnm> yeah
14:02:33 <joepie91> well
14:02:45 <joepie91> I was hit literally millimeters away from it
14:03:05 <joepie91> so that was a... close call
14:03:09 <joepie91> to put it nicely
14:03:20 <joepie91> anyway, I seem to always luck out of things like this
14:03:23 <joepie91> idk why or how
14:03:25 <zxcvbnm> was there any justice for you?
14:03:30 <zxcvbnm> other than living.
14:03:35 <joepie91> in some cases, I can probably attribute it to reflexes... in other cases, not so much
14:03:40 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: meh
14:03:45 <joepie91> I don't really like the word 'justice'
14:03:46 <joepie91> too loaded
14:03:55 <zxcvbnm> well, was there any reaction
14:03:57 <joepie91> the consequences of it for the other person were that he ended up in youth prison (again)
14:04:00 <joepie91> iirc
14:04:06 <zxcvbnm> yeah, sounded like you were a minor
14:04:11 <joepie91> yes, I was
14:04:12 <zxcvbnm> at the time
14:04:15 <joepie91> was 16 or so?
14:04:16 <zxcvbnm> so, they likely were as well
14:04:16 <joepie91> 15 maybe?
14:04:19 <joepie91> yes, 17
14:04:21 <joepie91> (that guy)
14:04:41 <joepie91> but really, I do wonder why I always luck out of shit
14:04:46 <joepie91> I mean, statistically this makes no sense :P
14:04:58 <zxcvbnm> maybe you were a nice little Buddhist in a previous life? :P
14:05:00 <joepie91> I haven't ever broken any bones, haven't ever had permanent injuries from anything
14:05:15 <joepie91> I've been *this* close to death several times
14:05:18 <zxcvbnm> I also have never broken any bones, and I definitely should have
14:05:31 <joepie91> and I can't find a single explanation for all this
14:05:40 <zxcvbnm> is an explanation needed
14:05:46 <joepie91> meh
14:05:53 <joepie91> I'd like to have an idea of when my luck will run out
14:05:54 <joepie91> :P
14:06:04 <zxcvbnm> like you said, you got *this* close. so, if they were *that* much closer, you'd be dead and we wouldn't need to discuss the explanation
14:06:12 <joepie91> lol
14:06:27 <joepie91> while true
14:06:32 <joepie91> it still occupies my mind
14:06:33 <joepie91> :p
14:06:39 <joepie91> but I guess that's more of a curiosity thing
14:06:41 <joepie91> than anything else
14:06:42 <zxcvbnm> now hold on you odn't believe in luck do you joepie
14:06:53 <joepie91> eh, I'm undecided
14:07:04 <joepie91> but generally assume luck doesn't exist
14:07:07 <joepie91> for practical purposes
14:07:09 <joepie91> :P
14:07:17 <zxcvbnm> practically we could say it doesn't
14:07:31 <zxcvbnm> wouldn't there have to be some Luck-governing-body  ?
14:07:35 <joepie91> thing is, if I assume that luck exists and I'm wrong
14:07:37 <joepie91> it's going to cost me dearly
14:07:43 <joepie91> if I assume that luck doesn't exist and I'm wrong
14:07:49 <joepie91> I have a few extra nice days in my life
14:07:49 <joepie91> :P
14:07:57 <joepie91> the latter is obviously the superior option
14:08:30 <joepie91> (this feels a bit like a prisoner dillemma kind of thing, but with only one situation)
14:08:40 <joepie91> (calculate the negative outcomes from guessing wrong)
14:08:50 <zxcvbnm> prisoner dillemma - the philosophy question?
14:08:55 <zxcvbnm> a prisoner who has never seen the light kinda thing
14:08:56 <zxcvbnm> ?
14:08:59 <joepie91> no
14:09:00 <joepie91> sec
14:09:11 <joepie91> that's caveman dillemma
14:09:12 <joepie91> no?
14:09:18 <zxcvbnm> lemme find it
14:09:20 <joepie91>'s_dilemma
14:09:26 <joepie91> or caveman theory, rather
14:09:30 <joepie91> prisoners dillemma is about cooperation or lack thereof
14:09:34 <zxcvbnm>
14:09:35 <joepie91> even if it may be advantageous
14:09:39 <joepie91> yes, caveman theory
14:09:39 <zxcvbnm> is what I was referring to
14:09:40 <joepie91> :p
14:09:46 <joepie91> (that's how I see a lot of people name it anyway)
14:10:05 <zxcvbnm> ah, yes, we were taught it as the Allegory of the Cave
14:10:14 <joepie91> that's the official name I believe
14:10:23 <joepie91> but it's harder to remember and doesn't ring a bell with most people
14:10:55 <zxcvbnm> sure
14:12:02 <zxcvbnm> do you guys have poison ivy in NL?
14:12:14 <zxcvbnm> or do you have what the swiss have..
14:13:00 <zxcvbnm> I don't know how to spell the german word but it sounds like "Bru-nessa"
14:13:07 <zxcvbnm> and it stings for ~1hour
14:13:14 <joepie91> I don't think we do
14:13:17 <joepie91> we do have this:
14:13:26 <joepie91>
14:13:28 <joepie91> very annoying
14:13:46 <zxcvbnm> oh yeah, that is similar to brunessa(sp) in switzerland
14:14:00 <zxcvbnm> in the states we call that stinging nettle
14:14:18 <zxcvbnm> but you guys don't have poison ivy.. lucky you
14:14:40 <zxcvbnm> I am VERY allergic to poison ivy, and I got some over the weekend at bonnaroo. its horrible
14:14:44 <iceTwy> aszsegfszff
14:14:49 <zxcvbnm> i've been getting it since I was a little kid
14:14:50 <iceTwy> god damn css3
14:16:51 <joepie91> ?
14:17:28 <zxcvbnm> Große Brennnessel
14:17:33 <zxcvbnm> btw, joepie91
14:17:41 <zxcvbnm> GroBe*
14:18:23 <zxcvbnm> Die Brennnesseln bilden eine Pflanzengattung in der Familie der Brennnesselgewchse.
14:57:31 <iceTwy> I hate when people in an IRC chat that was created to help users just debate over totally unrelated stuff
15:01:14 <zxcvbnm> I generally always hate those help channels because of stuff like that
15:01:23 <zxcvbnm> Or the proverbial "LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU roflcopter"
15:01:38 <zxcvbnm> wow.. thanks #help
15:02:32 <iceTwy> yup..
15:08:14 <joepie91> iceTwy: even better, channels where they start arguing over you saying that what you're trying to do is wrong even if you already explained why it's the only option
15:08:18 <joepie91> and you never get an actual answer
15:08:20 <joepie91> see: #python
15:08:21 <joepie91> :P
15:08:24 <joepie91> (and a lot of others)
15:08:30 <iceTwy> lol true
15:08:43 <iceTwy> I'm on #css because I'm struggling with a code bit that, I suppose, should be working
15:08:50 <iceTwy> since I'm literally replicating the examples I found
15:08:54 <iceTwy> let's see what they say
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15:58:00 <iceTwy> hai lady-3jane!
15:58:14 <iceTwy> I think I'm done tweaking my site for a while now.
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16:01:47 <lady-3jane> iceTwy:) oh?
16:01:56 <iceTwy> yeah
16:02:00 <iceTwy>
16:02:17 <iceTwy> not as good as other things, like
16:02:23 <iceTwy> (not even remotely as good actually)
16:02:32 <iceTwy> but satisfying for a start, I think
16:06:04 <lady-3jane> why use chromeframe when you're not using new html, and why use old jquery
16:06:04 <lady-3jane> >_>
16:11:30 <iceTwy> hmm?
16:11:36 <iceTwy> lady-3jane: ?
16:12:06 <lady-3jane> you have chromeframe in your page
16:12:09 <lady-3jane> why
16:12:17 <lady-3jane> it's being flat out ended by google next year
16:12:27 <lady-3jane> and your jquery 191 is out of date
16:12:36 * lady-3jane bitches
16:14:12 <iceTwy> 1. I'm not using jquery
16:14:16 <iceTwy> 2. HT5BP
16:19:21 <iceTwy> umad-3jane?
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16:40:42 <lady-3jane> iceTwy:) read your code bud
16:40:51 <iceTwy> howso
16:40:55 <lady-3jane> <script src="//"></script>
16:40:55 <lady-3jane>         <script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/vendor/jquery-1.9.1.min.js"><\/script>')</script>
16:40:55 <lady-3jane>         <script src="js/plugins.js"></script>
16:40:55 <lady-3jane>         <script src="js/main.js"></script>
16:40:59 <lady-3jane> right fucking there
16:41:18 <lady-3jane> and then
16:41:18 <lady-3jane>         <!--[if lt IE 7]>
16:41:18 <lady-3jane>             <p class="chromeframe">You are using an <strong>outdated</strong> browser. Please <a href="">upgrade your browser</a> to improve your experience.</p>
16:41:18 <lady-3jane>         <![endif]-->
16:41:21 <lady-3jane> chromeframe
16:41:21 <iceTwy> that's a default HTML5 Boiler Plate thingy
16:41:23 <lady-3jane> right fucking there
16:41:28 <lady-3jane> YES
16:41:31 <lady-3jane> AND YOU'RE USING IT
16:41:33 <lady-3jane> IT'S YOUR JOB TO KEEP IT UP
16:41:40 <iceTwy> wat
16:41:43 * lady-3jane pimpslaps
16:42:03 <iceTwy> I'd be rigorous if I had to be
16:42:05 <iceTwy> but 1. this is my page
16:42:11 <lady-3jane> you always have to be
16:42:12 <iceTwy> 2. I like having fun
16:42:15 <lady-3jane> end of story
16:42:22 <iceTwy> i have to cry brb
16:42:23 <iceTwy> :(
16:42:37 <lady-3jane> also your links are the same fucking color as the red text on top
16:42:43 <iceTwy> what? no
16:42:48 <iceTwy> get a pair of fucking eyes
16:42:51 <lady-3jane> urgent action -> those links are non-obvious
16:42:55 <lady-3jane> RED ON RED
16:42:56 <iceTwy> yes
16:43:01 <lady-3jane> yes they're different shades of RED
16:43:09 <iceTwy> *shrug*
16:43:13 <iceTwy> I did that at 4AM
16:43:14 <iceTwy> please nomad
16:43:23 <lady-3jane> I'm ragin'
16:43:25 <lady-3jane> :D
16:43:53 <iceTwy> alright
16:43:57 <iceTwy> I'm not a good designer
16:44:01 <iceTwy> or artist in general
16:44:06 <iceTwy> well I'm a musician so I'm an artist
16:44:06 <iceTwy> but
16:44:13 <iceTwy> RECOMMEND A COLOR, THAT'S MY POINT!!&11111
16:44:22 <lady-3jane> I'm not either, but I've taken enough art classes to be an art major
16:44:36 <lady-3jane> So, even if I'm not artistic, I know the basic design principles
16:45:46 <lady-3jane> woot! partial rsync!
16:45:50 * lady-3jane sucks data
16:45:58 <iceTwy> okay
16:46:06 <iceTwy> so IF you have basic design principles
16:46:07 <iceTwy> RECOMMEND A COLOR, THAT'S MY POINT!!&11111
16:46:13 <iceTwy> :3
16:49:10 <lady-3jane> take your text color and find a complement
16:49:27 <lady-3jane> or the opposite color on the color wheel, if you want to punch people in the face with it
16:49:51 <lady-3jane> or perhaps just go take a color theory class
16:50:50 <iceTwy> fuck no
16:50:55 <iceTwy> jquery 1.10.1
16:50:59 <lady-3jane> YAP
16:51:02 <iceTwy> or should I say, fuck IE users, and go 2.0.2
16:51:11 <iceTwy> god I want to say fuck IE users
16:51:18 <lady-3jane> if you're using any of the other h5bp js, probably not
16:51:22 <lady-3jane> because it might break their shit
16:51:24 <iceTwy> true
16:51:32 <iceTwy> ffs I don't even use JS
16:51:33 <iceTwy> at all
16:51:36 <iceTwy> let alone jQueryu
16:51:37 <lady-3jane> then rm the bitch
16:51:38 <iceTwy> jQuery*
16:51:49 <lady-3jane> also fix your <html> tags if you do
16:51:51 <iceTwy> yeah but h5bp needs it
16:51:58 <lady-3jane> cause that bullshit at the top is for modrnizr
16:52:30 <lady-3jane> I've used all of those frameworks lol
16:52:33 <lady-3jane> I hate all of em
16:52:40 <crytocc-c> fuck
16:53:27 <iceTwy> you hate too much lady-3jane
16:54:50 <lady-3jane> No, I love too much.
16:55:10 <lady-3jane> I love when things work correctly, or are architected in a good way. Many are not.
16:55:42 <iceTwy> Using jQuery 1.10.1 and removed chromeframe
16:55:43 <iceTwy> u happy?
16:56:33 * lady-3jane waits for chromeframe to be removed
16:56:58 <lady-3jane> browsehappy bars e.e
16:57:28 <iceTwy> :D
16:57:29 <monod> have you heard of "collusion" add-on for firefox? you may appreciate it!
16:57:33 <lady-3jane> :D
16:57:38 <lady-3jane> monod:) yes :)
16:57:55 <lady-3jane> go check out some of mozilla's addons
16:58:03 <lady-3jane> like about:trackers and about:profile
16:58:35 <lady-3jane> hahahaha
16:59:12 <lady-3jane> iceTwy:) you could remove your css on links .urgent a:link {} and it'd be better
16:59:18 <lady-3jane> also why :link
16:59:21 <lady-3jane> worthless there
16:59:28 <iceTwy> hmm
16:59:34 <lady-3jane> it'd turn links blue
16:59:36 <iceTwy> gosh you're really inspecting my code aren't you
16:59:36 <lady-3jane> in red text
16:59:41 <lady-3jane> yes?
16:59:45 <iceTwy> okay
16:59:48 <lady-3jane> you should inspect my code :P
17:00:03 <lady-3jane> I do everything with the expectation that someone will tear my code apart
17:00:03 <lady-3jane> :P
17:00:27 <lady-3jane> and I want them to be proud that it's decent, or find some niggly new use they didn't think of
17:00:33 <lady-3jane> :P
17:03:57 <iceTwy> btw
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17:05:53 <lady-3jane> I know
17:06:02 <lady-3jane> I don't need a link to it, I just click inspect
17:06:03 <lady-3jane> >_>
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17:06:27 <lady-3jane> T0R_till:) PING
17:06:28 <lady-3jane> awh
17:06:40 <lady-3jane> BUT I WANTED A FRIEND
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17:08:25 <lady-3jane> oh! chrome 28!
17:08:26 <lady-3jane> HOT
17:08:48 <iceTwy> yes
17:08:53 <iceTwy> I've had it for 2-3 days
17:08:56 <iceTwy> you're outdated HAHAHA.
17:09:01 <iceTwy> please upgrade your browser!
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17:09:23 <lady-3jane> I don't have automatic updates
17:09:23 <lady-3jane> lol
17:09:31 <iceTwy> neither do I
17:09:33 <lady-3jane> rm'd all that shit on ubuntu
17:09:39 <iceTwy> I just run sudo pacman -Syu every 5 mins
17:09:45 <lady-3jane> cause their updater bugged out all the time
17:09:46 <lady-3jane> lol
17:09:49 <iceTwy> ubuntu
17:09:50 <iceTwy> ...
17:09:51 <anonnews280> hello
17:09:52 <iceTwy> ubuntu.
17:09:55 <lady-3jane> yap
17:09:57 <iceTwy> hello anonnews280
17:09:57 <lady-3jane> ubuntu.
17:10:01 <iceTwy> do you really use ubuntu?
17:10:06 <lady-3jane> I do really use ubuntu
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17:10:17 <lady-3jane> It's quite nice
17:10:17 <iceTwy> well, y know, I've never used JS
17:10:26 <iceTwy> but I'd really like to make a little animation
17:10:34 <iceTwy> where you'd see some dummies, you being one
17:10:38 <lady-3jane> I have a few niggling issues with it, but I've mostly bent it to do what I want
17:10:45 <iceTwy> and another dummy grabbing a rope and putting it around your neck
17:10:50 <iceTwy> and then, lifting you off the ground
17:11:02 <lady-3jane> I think you're imagining an ubuntu different than the one I use
17:11:07 <lady-3jane> :P
17:12:13 <iceTwy> probably
17:12:21 <lady-3jane> I don't use unity >_>
17:12:25 <iceTwy> neither did I
17:12:44 <lady-3jane> i3wm 4 lyfe
17:13:04 <anonnews280> I'm looking for some information about brazilian protests...
17:13:17 <lady-3jane> you're in the wrong channel
17:13:22 <lady-3jane> :)
17:13:28 <anonnews280> uahauha
17:13:35 <anonnews280> ok
17:13:40 <anonnews280> sorry
17:13:41 <lady-3jane> try #anonnews or something
17:13:47 <lady-3jane> they might know
17:13:58 <anonnews280> thanks
17:13:59 <lady-3jane> they might also troll you
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17:14:00 <lady-3jane> lol
17:14:02 <lady-3jane> but eh
17:14:07 <why_slap_option> hey lady-3jane
17:14:39 <lady-3jane> dicks
17:14:52 <why_slap_option> hi
17:15:20 <why_slap_option> !@#$% im mutes
17:15:23 <why_slap_option> d
17:15:49 <lady-3jane> hmm, chrome28 for linux was out monday
17:15:51 <lady-3jane> interesting
17:16:07 <lady-3jane> OH MY GOD
17:16:13 <lady-3jane> SPDY/4.1 ALPHA
17:16:24 * lady-3jane has sex with google
17:18:39 <iceTwy> hem
17:18:59 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:19:06 <lady-3jane> I should really try their async dns shit
17:19:11 <lady-3jane> but I have local caching dns so fuck that
17:19:59 <iceTwy> Nov 2014 Submit HTTP/2.0 to IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard
17:20:26 <iceTwy> I'm so happy to see that we're moving off the old era of the Web.
17:20:32 <iceTwy> Web 1.0/2.0.
17:20:33 <lady-3jane> yes
17:20:45 <lady-3jane> http/2 is pretty much spdy 2 or 3
17:20:53 <iceTwy> I'm already super excited when I see all those amazingly beautiful sites thanks to HTML5/CSS3
17:20:59 <iceTwy> and now with HTTP 2
17:20:59 <iceTwy> yay
17:21:02 <lady-3jane> yeah
17:21:07 <lady-3jane> css is getting nice
17:21:09 <iceTwy> buuuuut
17:21:13 <iceTwy> I'm worried about ONE thing
17:21:13 <lady-3jane> we're getting close to feature parity with print
17:21:17 <lady-3jane> which is what all designers want
17:21:33 <iceTwy> Google's developing SPDY
17:21:33 <iceTwy> so..
17:21:38 <iceTwy> I mean
17:21:45 <iceTwy> Google's got devs & engineers all over W3C
17:21:49 <lady-3jane> yes
17:22:07 <lady-3jane> spell out your concerns
17:22:14 <iceTwy> I don't really like the idea of having a company laying down its hands on an open consortium
17:22:30 <iceTwy> And pretty much over all the web, to a further extent than now
17:22:57 <lady-3jane> how is it any different than it was before?
17:23:29 <lady-3jane> we're getting really good tech out of it and no real downsides. you don't have to be a google user to benefit from spdy :D
17:23:41 <lady-3jane> it's all public standards and shit
17:24:41 <lady-3jane> my concern is that new tech won't be as fault tolerant as old
17:24:55 <lady-3jane> I want to know how spdy handles packet loss
17:25:04 <lady-3jane> because that's a very real issue for most of the world
17:25:13 <lady-3jane> or ridiculous pings
17:25:28 <lady-3jane> I had 17% packet loss yesterday, and I'm in a first world country
17:25:45 <lady-3jane> I can't imagine being in a shit country in africa or something
17:26:43 <iceTwy> lol
17:26:59 <lady-3jane> that was bad, actually
17:27:07 <lady-3jane> 500ms ping w/17% packet loss
17:27:22 <iceTwy> okay I can make you feel better
17:27:30 <iceTwy> USA = 4th world countryu
17:27:32 <iceTwy> country*
17:27:34 <iceTwy> :>
17:28:06 <lady-3jane> lol
17:28:22 <iceTwy> fuck...
17:28:23 <iceTwy> fuck.
17:28:33 <iceTwy>
17:28:46 <MK_FG> Actually, isn't internet in most of the usa being shittier and more expensive than in eu?
17:28:51 <iceTwy> Britain's spy agency GCHQ has secretly gained access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic and has started to process vast streams of sensitive personal information which it is sharing with its American partner, the National Security Agency (NSA).
17:29:12 <lady-3jane> MK_FG:) yeah
17:29:26 <lady-3jane> I'm moving from here to worse internet by the end of next month
17:29:28 <lady-3jane> I'm gonna cry
17:29:39 <lady-3jane> everybody there has max 6mbit down, and they all use wireless
17:29:44 <lady-3jane> I don't even own a computer with wireless
17:30:05 <MK_FG> That's weird, how the hell do you pick a place you move to if not by bandwidth/rtt/loss?
17:30:17 <iceTwy> All this internet surveillance disgusts me. Badly.
17:30:18 <MK_FG> It's just insane! ;)
17:30:19 <lady-3jane> It's college, not much choice
17:30:22 <iceTwy> Shakes me up to my fucking core.
17:30:26 <lady-3jane> the entire area is underserved
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17:30:42 <lady-3jane> maybe I can go on campus and get better net, but I doubt it
17:30:54 <lady-3jane> because of the "lack of wifi-capable pc" problem
17:31:07 <MK_FG> iceTwy, You might feel better reading about shit that psychos in power did in e.g. middle ages ;)
17:31:25 <lady-3jane> NP: [Blur - Song 2] [Blur] [982kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:31:30 <iceTwy> MK_FG: Yeah but I don't think they controlled 2 billion people.
17:31:39 <MK_FG> 21th century in 1st-2nd world is damn fucking utopia compared
17:31:43 <iceTwy> And at least they were honest enough not to do it in the people's back
17:31:48 <MK_FG> Hahah
17:31:53 <MK_FG> As if
17:31:53 <lady-3jane> yeah man
17:32:07 <MK_FG> They were not accountable at all
17:32:09 <lady-3jane> spying on the internet is small shit to widespread systematic torture
17:32:35 <lady-3jane> doesn't mean we shouldn't fight to stop it, but do keep perspective of where we came from
17:33:31 <MK_FG> We have sopa passed by lawmakers today
17:33:43 <lady-3jane> NP: [The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die] [Invaders Must Die] [931kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
17:33:48 <lady-3jane> oh?
17:33:51 <MK_FG> Extrajudicial block of arbitrary stuff ;)
17:33:58 <lady-3jane> in .ru?
17:34:26 <MK_FG>
17:34:26 <MK_FG> Yep
17:34:50 <lady-3jane> god damnit
17:34:56 <lady-3jane> why do they put dumb photos of putin up
17:35:02 <lady-3jane> I want to see SOPA over him topless
17:35:07 <MK_FG> Heheh
17:35:12 <MK_FG> That'd be insta-blocked
17:35:15 <lady-3jane> awh
17:35:17 <lady-3jane> lmao
17:35:21 <lady-3jane> but he makes those photos!
17:35:22 <MK_FG> Putin's top is copyrighted, you know
17:35:22 <lady-3jane> :|
17:35:25 <lady-3jane> really?
17:35:27 <lady-3jane> lulz
17:35:58 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:36:12 <lady-3jane> so I guess I wonder who you have to pay to not get put on the copyright list
17:36:13 <lady-3jane> :D
17:36:44 <MK_FG> I'd say hetzner or whatever vps/vpn provider outside would be fine ;)
17:37:13 <MK_FG> Until they ban vpn's and crypto, that is
17:37:40 <MK_FG> (FSB chief here said they'll do that eventually, a few weeks ago)
17:39:16 <lady-3jane> lulz
17:40:02 <lady-3jane> that's just an odd concept to me
17:40:22 <lady-3jane> no crypto means trusting every system from you to the destination and back, completely
17:40:45 <lady-3jane> even if I trust most, I don't trust all
17:41:05 <MK_FG> Well, if you have closed internet system, akin to North Korea
17:41:32 <MK_FG> Then if you have clearnet like that, and it's all monitored and logged
17:41:46 <lady-3jane> yeah, but you guys don't have a closed system
17:41:54 <lady-3jane> and even NK is trying to figure out how to open up
17:42:04 <MK_FG> Don't have it yet, you mean ;)
17:42:08 <lady-3jane> (and still maintain information control)
17:42:14 <lady-3jane> is it really trending that way?
17:42:23 <MK_FG> Nah, I don't think so
17:42:43 <lady-3jane> I dunno how I'd feel about that. gigabit for everyone in a country... in a closed system
17:42:44 <MK_FG> Even that sopa thing will go away in a generation or few
17:42:50 <lady-3jane> versus shitnet but open system
17:42:51 <MK_FG> Or maybe much sooner
17:44:04 <lady-3jane> but I guess it's the same discussion we had in our polisci class
17:44:37 <lady-3jane> do you prefer constitutional democracy with lots of problems, like no healthcare and much lower reading rate, retirement, lifespan etc
17:45:15 <lady-3jane> or do you prefer a more authoritarian regime but healthcare, long life, heavily educated populace, etc
17:45:28 <lady-3jane> we had the stats side by side, and had to vote
17:46:12 <lady-3jane> I guessed correctly when I figured the constitutional democracy was India, and the authoritarian regime was china. I picked China.
17:46:34 <MK_FG> Democracy in middle ages or China today? I'd say China
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17:46:45 <lady-3jane> yeah
17:47:07 <lady-3jane> Even knowing the two countries, I'd still pick china. If India's my other choice... ha fuck that
17:47:19 <HiveResearch> um
17:47:33 <MK_FG> HiveResearch, Come with us to China! ;)
17:47:35 <lady-3jane> communal culture, healthcare, highly educated, long life
17:47:37 <lady-3jane> I'd deal with that
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17:48:05 <MK_FG> Mao is teh awesomest!
17:48:10 <lady-3jane> go get myself a flat in beijing and die of lung cancer from their smog
17:48:19 <lady-3jane> you could do worse
17:48:20 <lady-3jane> lol
17:48:38 <HiveResearch> so like 1 person per second is signing a thing that says don't spy on us, telling them effectively who they should spy on
17:48:42 <lady-3jane> hmm wait isn't beijing northern
17:49:01 <lady-3jane> yes it is
17:49:18 <lady-3jane> HiveResearch:) duh! Worthless outrage at work!
17:49:25 <HiveResearch> I want to shoot myself watching idiots beg for democracy
17:49:40 <HiveResearch> lady-3jane: not only that
17:49:45 <lady-3jane> prolly wanna live in guangxi province
17:49:52 <lady-3jane> their food is spicy as fuck
17:50:09 <lady-3jane> love me some southern chinese
17:50:20 <MK_FG> Still talking about food?
17:50:27 <lady-3jane> yes
17:50:32 <lady-3jane> or maybe yunnan province
17:50:35 <HiveResearch> no outrage for Russian SOPA, antimask thing in Canada, the welfare cuts
17:50:36 <MK_FG> I heard southern chinese are tasty this time of year, yeah
17:50:49 <lady-3jane> nah, hk is in guangxi
17:50:56 <lady-3jane> both are close to hanoi
17:51:06 <lady-3jane> so I can go visit vietnam
17:51:09 <lady-3jane> be all touristy and shit
17:51:19 <HiveResearch> i wanna start a shitstorm
17:51:29 <HiveResearch> Reunite Korea
17:51:39 <MK_FG> Vietnamese are probably all too skinny, easy to cook though
17:51:40 <lady-3jane> need to see ho chi minh at some point too
17:51:42 <lady-3jane> it's on my list
17:51:46 <lady-3jane> lol
17:51:48 <lady-3jane> nah
17:52:02 <HiveResearch> Vietnamese kicked our fat butts
17:52:05 <lady-3jane> I could go get a vietnamese wife
17:52:17 <lady-3jane> find a cute one and pay her family well
17:52:37 <lady-3jane> retire in the steppes
17:52:40 <MK_FG> s/get/buy/
17:52:56 <lady-3jane> buying implies I'm not there
17:53:05 <lady-3jane> internet wife--
17:53:41 <lady-3jane> hmm
17:53:52 <lady-3jane> be funny living in a country where a village is 250k people
17:54:23 <lady-3jane> but I think I can do what I want so long as I don't fuck with the govt
17:55:34 * lady-3jane shrugs
17:55:48 <lady-3jane> go teach english to chinese kids
17:55:52 <lady-3jane> hehe
17:55:58 <lady-3jane> learn chinese from them
18:02:31 <lady-3jane> agh
18:02:48 <lady-3jane> I wish chrome would set the window header to the size of an image if it's the only thing I'm viewing
18:09:44 * lady-3jane pulls 42g of music over from sacramento
18:10:12 <lady-3jane> (at 50kbps because their internet is shit-tier)
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18:54:01 <ShadowDemon> sex time
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19:06:01 <lady-3jane> hmm, I wonder if some of the problems I have with chrome are because it's finally to the point where I really need better than a dualcore to let it do multiprocess properly
19:15:48 <ShadowDemon> Chrome is a good browser, I just hate adding to the monopoly that Google has created
19:16:10 <HiveResearch> Chrome supports DRM in HTML
19:16:38 <HiveResearch> that's like a radiation suit in your ASCII
19:18:34 <lady-3jane> it's funny trying to figure out what changed in chrome 28
19:18:45 <lady-3jane> I may have to go and read actual commit logs because nobody's saying
19:19:07 <lady-3jane> chrome 28 was only released for linux, and 3 days after 27 was shipped on windows/mac
19:27:42 <ShadowDemon> Shit guys
19:27:47 <ShadowDemon> I don't know who I am
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19:38:52 <lady-3jane> bad trip? (good trip?)
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21:57:25 <iceTwy> holy
21:57:26 <iceTwy> re-hai
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22:36:41 <iceTwy> joepie91 ain't here?
22:36:43 <iceTwy> :o
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23:10:28 <joepie91> whee!
23:12:10 <crytocc-c> lol
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23:25:44 <iceTwy> hai joepie91
23:25:56 <joepie91>
23:25:59 <joepie91> hai iceTwy
23:26:41 <joepie91> read article
23:26:42 <joepie91> :P
23:27:19 <iceTwy> yes I'm doing so, but I can already draw the conclusion from it
23:27:26 <iceTwy> >>morale: use GNU/Linux :p
23:31:49 <botpie91> 04joepie91 made 1 commit(s) to 03box on branch 10develop: '02Add SQL table schema' (
23:32:05 <joepie91> no
23:32:07 <joepie91> just read it :P
23:33:19 <crytocc-c> hmmm
23:58:36 <joepie91> meh
23:58:37 <joepie91> sleep
23:58:39 <joepie91> night all