Cryto! 24 May 2013
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00:26:38 <ShadowDemon> meow
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02:44:52 <lady-3jane> I am going to sit and eat 10$ worth of salmon
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03:02:30 <lady-3jane> NP: [Vono Box - Hello Joe] [Electro Swing] [902kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
03:29:08 <lady-3jane> NP: [Juno Reactor - Inca Steppa] [Gods & Monsters] [991kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
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05:52:02 <iceTwy> morning
05:52:22 <iceTwy> MK_FG: shred's been running for 13h
05:52:27 <iceTwy> it's only at pass 6/11
05:52:33 <iceTwy> nearly done with pass 6 but yeah
05:52:34 <iceTwy> lmao
06:06:20 <ShadowDemon> meow
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06:08:30 <MK_FG> I actually wonder if shred would be also fine for ssds
06:08:42 <MK_FG> They all should have wear levelling
06:08:55 <MK_FG> So everything shred writes should come into less-used block
06:09:19 <MK_FG> That means that ~1.2 of full pass or something should cycle all the blocks
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06:33:27 <ElectRo`> is anybody use filevault 2 on osx
06:33:53 <ElectRo`> FDE has my user password as my unlock the encryption password with autologin
06:33:58 <ElectRo`> shits so fail
06:34:42 <ElectRo`> google comes up dry :(
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07:48:59 <monod> hello guys
07:49:16 <monod> discovered what music synthesis is - began having fun
07:49:46 <LastOneStanding> whats going on?
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07:53:33 <twitchyliquid64> zxcvbnm: fuckaduckduckgo.com is already registered
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08:14:56 <MK_FG> Damn squatters
08:15:02 <twitchyliquid64> MK_FG: elab?
08:16:24 <MK_FG> Nah, it was a shakefist-joke
08:28:57 * twitchyliquid64 slaps MK_FG areound with some smoked salmon
08:35:16 <MK_FG> stoned salmon
08:36:57 <MK_FG> "https://github.com/i2p-c/i2p.c" "there's nothing there." "correct. that's the joke, ted. the c version is only available from the git repo hosted on i2p."
10:04:42 <ShadowDemon> I have come to really enjoy JSON
10:04:45 <ShadowDemon> anyone else agree?
10:05:45 * ShadowDemon 's gotta restart this shitty windows :/
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11:21:17 <monod> anyone who says that linux is easy to use, must be a programmer
11:36:02 <monod> here's a composition of mines! let me now what do ya think! http://deverso1999.altervista.org/NewFolder/Walking_the_same_way_as_you_mono__piano_.mid
12:17:36 <ShadowDemon> Lol
12:17:55 <ShadowDemon> Linux is easy to use if you understand a file-system style of kernel
12:18:03 <ShadowDemon> But yes, I'm a programmer
12:18:21 <ShadowDemon> Linux is built for programmers because programmers are the ones who build it for themselves :P
12:18:56 <ShadowDemon> Windows and Mac have things build very counter-intuitive but they are very graphical oriented, rather than console based like linux
12:18:57 <ShadowDemon> So
12:19:10 <ShadowDemon> That should summarize it for you. :P
12:20:55 <ShadowDemon> joepie91, you here?
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12:21:24 <ShadowDemon> poop
12:21:43 <ShadowDemon> Anyone feelin' like buidling a new open source project today?
12:23:00 <MK_FG> "file-system style of kernel"? ;)
12:24:25 * MK_FG finally adding rss-reader bot to read short rss stuff from whatever reddits, opensauce but probably easy to hack for oneself than re-use ;)
12:26:48 <ShadowDemon> You know what I mean
12:26:52 <ShadowDemon> There's a name for it
12:28:26 <MK_FG> Not really
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12:29:10 <MK_FG> Can't think what kernel internals might have to do with file-system
12:29:36 <MK_FG> I mean, sure, various fs'es are implemented there, but it's more oop and various spaghetti code inside
12:30:06 <ShadowDemon> nay
12:30:14 <MK_FG> Internals-exposing pseudo-fs'es like /sys and /proc are just a bunch of callbacks with hierarchical acls
12:30:21 <ShadowDemon> Like when you use a printer for instance
12:30:26 <ShadowDemon> Some kernels have you write to a file
12:30:33 <ShadowDemon> While others use a printer service
12:31:23 <ShadowDemon> There's a term for it and I'm way too tired to remember :P
12:31:24 <MK_FG> Modern unixes probably all just expose it as some /dev/usb/... thing
12:31:40 <MK_FG> And have userspace (windoze!) driver to work with it from there
12:32:08 <ShadowDemon> lol
12:32:31 <ShadowDemon> Ye
12:32:39 <ShadowDemon> Although I never use Windows drivers
12:33:08 <MK_FG> Iirc printers send these to cups via some protocol
12:33:17 <MK_FG> But dunno, maybe it's no longer the case
12:33:31 <ShadowDemon> Maybe
12:33:33 <MK_FG> Didn't have to use dead-trees for a loooong while
12:34:00 <ShadowDemon> Meow
12:34:20 <ShadowDemon> I wish I never broke my Android Tablet
12:46:32 <MK_FG> What to use for a simple, reliable and available (e.g. "it's likely installed") key-value db?
12:48:13 <MK_FG> Going for sqlite again, because bdb suck butts and get corrupted if you just send SIGKILL a few times, wonder if these's some simplier one-file solution than damn sql thing...
12:48:19 <MK_FG> *there's
12:54:47 <ShadowDemon> I use SQL as well
12:55:01 <ShadowDemon> But only in PHP land
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13:36:51 <twitchyliquid64> HAI ShadowDemon
13:36:54 <twitchyliquid64> omg its been ages
13:37:00 <twitchyliquid64> hows the twins? :D
14:35:51 <lady-3jane> EVERY DAY I'M TUMBLIN'
14:36:15 <lady-3jane> also, it's officially gonna be "one of those days"
14:36:24 <lady-3jane> I mistook plague for plaque earlier
14:36:44 <lady-3jane> which are rather close in facebook's verdana or whatever
14:47:07 <zxcvbnm> morningg
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14:59:15 <lady-3jane> yes hello zxcvbnm :)
14:59:18 <lady-3jane> NP: [Rage Against The Machine - Maggie's Farm] [Renegades (Limited Edition)] [1012kbps] DeaDBeeF 0.5.6-3jane
14:59:52 <joepie91> so
14:59:55 <joepie91> I've opened up my pc
15:00:02 <joepie91> took apart my PSU
15:00:08 <joepie91> re-cabled everything, nicely organized with tie-wraps
15:00:16 <joepie91> my PSU is now quiet again, virtually everything is dust-free
15:00:33 <joepie91> (I re-tightened screws, and removed the copious amounts of dust in it)
15:00:45 <joepie91> life is good again
15:01:08 <lady-3jane> :>
15:01:25 <lady-3jane> wtb replacement cpu fan, that's the only thing wrong with mine
15:01:29 <lady-3jane> it's old and whiiiiiiiiiiiiiirs
15:01:42 <joepie91> actually
15:01:48 <joepie91> I will probably be buying a new PSU
15:01:51 <joepie91> (omg!)
15:01:55 <lady-3jane> woot
15:01:56 <lady-3jane> :D
15:01:57 <joepie91> because this one apparently has a reputation
15:01:58 <joepie91> for being crappy
15:02:05 <joepie91> and it shouldn't even have survived these 7 years
15:02:09 <lady-3jane> mine has a reputation for being AWESOME
15:02:14 <joepie91> it's known for not living up to its rated wattage
15:02:16 <lady-3jane> but mostly it has blue lights in it, which I hate
15:02:20 <joepie91> it says 400W, but actually does 300W stable
15:02:24 <joepie91> for extended periods of time
15:02:27 <lady-3jane> so fucking tired of everything with lights
15:02:31 <joepie91> some of them are also known to blow up
15:02:32 <joepie91> ._.
15:02:40 <zxcvbnm> a psu definitely shouldn't make it 7 years
15:02:43 <lady-3jane> ricktickticktickBOOM
15:02:44 <zxcvbnm> you g0t lucky
15:02:49 <lady-3jane> wat
15:02:51 <zxcvbnm> guess
15:02:52 <zxcvbnm> what
15:02:55 <zxcvbnm> domain I just bought
15:02:56 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: huh?
15:02:56 <lady-3jane> my psu's are all older than 7
15:02:58 <lady-3jane> :/
15:03:01 <zxcvbnm> wtfchristian.com
15:03:01 <joepie91> a PSU shouldn't make it 7 years?
15:03:02 <joepie91> really?
15:03:02 <zxcvbnm> !!!!!!!!
15:03:13 <lady-3jane> makin' shit up
15:03:14 <zxcvbnm> ok not in the mood to talk about psu's or their life spans
15:03:21 <joepie91> because aside from this little rattling issue that seems resolved now
15:03:23 <joepie91> it's done fine
15:03:30 <joepie91> and survived multiple voltage spikes
15:03:32 * zxcvbnm has had maybe one psu make it past 5 years, maybe i just have bad luck
15:03:37 <joepie91> because lightning and shitty electrical net
15:03:51 <lady-3jane> my other one still works, but one of the capacitors is gonna blow up. bitch screams like a banshee
15:03:55 <joepie91> haha
15:04:06 <lady-3jane> still works though
15:04:10 <lady-3jane> but this one's good
15:04:18 <joepie91> mine's certainly not as quiet as it was in the past
15:04:21 <lady-3jane> one of the 85%+gold ones, 710w
15:04:23 <joepie91> but it's still pretty quiet again
15:04:28 <lady-3jane> which is about 7x what I need
15:04:37 <lady-3jane> this box uses like 115w
15:04:38 <lady-3jane> lol
15:04:55 <lady-3jane> 4 hd's, cpu, everything in 115w
15:04:56 <lady-3jane> <3
15:05:07 <zxcvbnm> I haven't kept a PC for 7 years though with all the same hardware
15:05:20 <zxcvbnm> I'd have to replace some other hardware before the psu goes out
15:05:21 <lady-3jane> I'm on 5 right now
15:05:24 <joepie91> only thing I've changed
15:05:27 <joepie91> is the GFX card
15:05:31 <joepie91> and I did that pretty soon after I got it
15:05:35 <joepie91> because the on-board was meh
15:05:39 <joepie91> other than that, all hardware is still identical
15:05:40 <zxcvbnm> and I like gaming with a nice PC so
15:05:41 <joepie91> including the 2GB RAM
15:05:57 <zxcvbnm> I usually just build a new one ~5 years
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15:06:01 <lady-3jane> this mobo's so old the usb and audio in the back went out, and now works again
15:06:04 <lady-3jane> that's how old it is
15:06:23 <joepie91> lady-3jane: my front panel USB/audio did that, but that might be because I blew it up with faulty connectors :3
15:06:30 <lady-3jane> lelz
15:06:37 <joepie91> not going to blame the hardware for that heh
15:06:40 <lady-3jane> I only had usb/audio for a couple years cause the front ones are legit
15:06:52 <lady-3jane> which is funny because everyone tells me the antec300's front ports are cheap
15:07:03 <lady-3jane> and I wonder what other people do with them, these have lasted 5 years with no wear
15:07:16 <zxcvbnm> I've got 16 GB ram on my home PC, 2500 i5 unlocked, blah blah mobo decent $150 mobo, nvidia hd 67 something or other 2GB gfx ram, 64gb ssd, 2 hdds
15:07:28 <lady-3jane> ati hd
15:07:31 <zxcvbnm> ya
15:07:37 <lady-3jane> nvidia does not make hd----
15:07:39 <lady-3jane> :P
15:07:42 <zxcvbnm> I'm not a hardware geek, i just do some research once every 5 years
15:07:58 <lady-3jane> I am a hardware geek :P
15:08:05 <joepie91> my mobo: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?CategoryID=1&DetailID=685&MenuID=24&LanID=9
15:08:13 <joepie91> my GFX card: http://www.xgcdb.com/cards/club_3d/hd-3650-1024mb-cgax-36524ddy.html
15:08:20 <lady-3jane> I check the fsb bandwidth rates and everything >_>
15:08:23 <lady-3jane> I'm kind of a bitch
15:08:40 <zxcvbnm> I check the bus rates too, I do comparisons sure at the time of purchase
15:08:45 <zxcvbnm> but there's no reason for me to memorize that shit now
15:08:55 <lady-3jane> haha joepie91 you're on the same chipsets as me, pretty much
15:09:17 <joepie91> my PSU: X-Gear cps4010c8f1
15:09:19 <lady-3jane> yeah
15:09:22 <joepie91> I have some straaaaaaange hardware
15:09:23 <joepie91> lol
15:09:24 <lady-3jane> that mobo is similar to mine
15:09:31 <lady-3jane> mine's an asrock, but yeah
15:09:32 <lady-3jane> same shit
15:09:34 <joepie91> no
15:09:35 <joepie91> not at all
15:09:39 <joepie91> asrock quality > ecs
15:09:44 <lady-3jane> lol
15:10:03 <lady-3jane> agh shit
15:10:12 <lady-3jane> I have to leave for my last final in 5 minute
15:10:13 <lady-3jane> e,e
15:10:35 <lady-3jane> I graduate tonight :P
15:10:53 <zxcvbnm> w00t
15:10:54 <zxcvbnm> congrats
15:11:47 <joepie91> have fun, lady-3jane :p
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15:13:12 <lady-3jane> ha ha fun
15:13:16 <lady-3jane> you
15:13:19 <lady-3jane> you're funny
15:13:29 <lady-3jane> it's multicultural health :P
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16:09:01 <monod> lol
16:09:07 <monod> "I have some straaaaaaange hardware"
16:09:15 <joepie91> well, I do!
16:09:22 <monod> :D
16:10:05 <monod> since we're talking about this... is someone here owning a nice pair of HYUNDAI RAM blocks? :D
16:10:20 <monod> kidding - back 2 "work"
16:10:49 <monod> (thinking about selling local penetration testing performances.. what do you guys think?)
16:11:00 <joepie91> monod: yes, I had a few HYUNDAI 64MB modules
16:11:06 <joepie91> laying around
16:11:07 <joepie91> somewhere
16:11:25 <joepie91> I may or may not still have them
16:11:26 <joepie91> :p
16:11:38 <monod> hahaha
16:11:39 <monod> great!
16:12:13 <monod> mines are 2GB each though - great mother Hyundai xD
16:13:16 <joepie91> lol
16:13:20 <joepie91> I have 2GB total RAM!
16:15:13 <zxcvbnm> nobody here speaks german right ?
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16:16:05 <monod> hmm.. huge quantitatives of RAM are only necessary if someone runs huge applications all at once.. otherwise it would be used as cache of the last level
16:16:27 <monod> so 2GB may still do the work just fine as 4GB
16:16:41 <monod> as* fine as
16:16:56 <joepie91> well that's odd
16:17:04 <joepie91> my hardware info says this board
16:17:07 <joepie91> or at least its memory controller
16:17:10 <joepie91> supports 16GB RAM max
16:17:14 <joepie91> with a max module size of 4GB
16:17:19 <joepie91> ... except I only have two slots
16:17:23 <joepie91> even though hardware info claims I have 4
16:17:25 <joepie91> ???
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16:17:31 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: I can read German, but not speak it
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16:18:35 <monod> hahahahaha
16:19:00 <monod> VERY odd
16:20:01 <zxcvbnm> joepie91: I need to translate my resume into German. but since its a technical document I don't think translate.google.com is gonna do a very good job
16:20:08 <joepie91> oh
16:20:13 <joepie91> why do you need to translate it into German...
16:20:17 <joepie91> ?
16:20:33 <zxcvbnm> I'm attempting to get work in Switzerland in ~8 months
16:20:50 <joepie91> okay, and you are going to get work there if you don't speak Deutsch... how?
16:20:51 <zxcvbnm> Working on my german w/ my gf, but it is not quite there yet
16:21:03 <joepie91> lol
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16:21:12 <joepie91> yeah, that's going to be a problem
16:21:27 <zxcvbnm> really joepie, i didn't think it would. I figured I could just go into a foreign country and not speak their language
16:22:00 <zxcvbnm> my girlfriend is Swiss, I just want someone who is proficient in tech & speaks German to translate it
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16:22:42 <zxcvbnm> I said 8 months, I didn't say tomorrow.
16:23:09 <joepie91> 8 months isn't much to learn German
16:23:22 <zxcvbnm> It is if you already have basic conversation
16:23:33 <zxcvbnm> and i've spent time there before, I pick up on it quick when I'm immersed in it
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16:23:58 <monod> the fastest way to translate it is...
16:24:24 <monod> find a fresh, first-year academic guy, studying languages, among which German
16:24:26 <monod> and pay him
16:24:30 <monod> it shouldn't cost too much
16:24:42 <monod> Resume == Curriculum?
16:24:48 <zxcvbnm> ya
16:24:56 <monod> oh
16:25:03 <zxcvbnm> I know a handful of native German speakers, I just don't know how well they would do with the technical terms
16:25:07 <monod> so it shouldn't be a looong text file
16:25:13 <monod> oh
16:25:36 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/NwcG2aO.jpg
16:25:49 <monod> I study in a foreign language some techincal classes and I found that technical vocabulary are quite easy instaed!
16:26:08 <monod> joepie91, is. that. your. machine??
16:26:10 <joepie91> yes
16:26:12 <joepie91> my desktop
16:26:13 <zxcvbnm> for instance when I translate Grubler-Typ, it is translated into english literally as a "brooder type". which no one says in English
16:26:17 <joepie91> with a router on top, and a 10 port USB hub
16:26:21 <joepie91> with external power
16:26:26 <zxcvbnm> so, I'm trying to avoid awkward literal translations like that
16:26:28 <monod> nice to meet it! :D
16:26:37 <joepie91> see that hole?
16:26:41 <joepie91> that's where my 200GB IDE HDD is
16:26:41 <joepie91> lol
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16:26:53 <joepie91> ripped out one of those adapter/holder sets for a floppy drive in an older PC
16:27:00 <joepie91> and (ab)used it to place a HDD in a DVD drive slot
16:27:11 <joepie91> lost the cover in the process, somehow
16:27:15 <joepie91> never was able to find it again
16:27:22 <zxcvbnm> monod: yeah, I should probably just hang out in some german channels :D
16:27:31 <monod> zxcvbnm, sorry then :( yeah, you may try!
16:27:34 <joepie91> anyway, that's my 7 year old desktop!
16:27:36 <monod> it might help
16:27:42 <zxcvbnm> monod: it's just a challenge is all, nothing I can't do
16:27:46 * joepie91 really likes the case design
16:28:10 <monod> joepie91, really nice "old" machine :)
16:28:15 <joepie91> heh, indeed
16:28:21 <joepie91> the 10 port USB hub is new
16:28:26 <joepie91> got that in the mail like 2-3 days go
16:28:27 <joepie91> ago *
16:28:29 <monod> I think you'd deserve a birthday present
16:28:29 <joepie91> from buyincoins
16:28:48 <monod> paying bitcoins?
16:28:52 <joepie91> oh, and the duct tape on the router is to prevent the LEDs from glaring in my eyes at night >.>
16:28:54 <joepie91> no
16:28:59 <joepie91> coincidental similarity in name
16:29:00 <joepie91> paypal only
16:29:04 <joepie91> :P
16:29:31 <monod> I have a similar issue with every blue led that's at my home
16:29:33 <joepie91> sec
16:29:37 <joepie91> let me make a full picture of my desk
16:29:40 <joepie91> (will have to clean it up first)
16:29:55 <zxcvbnm> I have the same issue with my mouse
16:29:56 <monod> all cleared and neat
16:30:06 <monod> yeah, how annoying is that
16:30:15 <zxcvbnm> http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/story/61/18/014391/zdnet-razer-abyssus-mirror-mouse.jpg
16:30:22 <zxcvbnm> the worst is in the morning when I wake up to turn my phone alarm off
16:30:25 <joepie91> zxcvbnm : see that LED on my case?
16:30:26 <zxcvbnm> this glaring blue light in my eye
16:30:28 <joepie91> the orange one?
16:30:35 <joepie91> not the green one
16:30:36 <joepie91> the othr
16:30:37 <joepie91> other *
16:30:37 <monod> zxcvbnm ZOMG!
16:30:46 <zxcvbnm> no i only see green lights joepie
16:30:49 <joepie91> that's probably the most annoying LED you'll ever see in your life
16:30:50 <joepie91> well
16:30:54 <joepie91> the orange one, turned off on the pic
16:30:57 <joepie91> is the HDD activity light
16:31:04 <joepie91> it's so incredibly bright
16:31:08 <monod> haha
16:31:08 <joepie91> that it can light up an _entire_ room
16:31:11 <joepie91> on its own
16:31:17 <zxcvbnm> grrr
16:31:21 <zxcvbnm> blackout curtains can't save you then
16:31:27 <joepie91> nope lol
16:31:32 <joepie91> I normally have that putty stuff over it
16:31:39 <joepie91> like, the sticky dough stuff that you can use to hang posters
16:31:40 <joepie91> on the wall
16:31:43 <zxcvbnm> ya
16:31:46 <joepie91> it blocks out light VERY well
16:31:50 <joepie91> and you just need a bit
16:31:54 <joepie91> and it's removably without leaving bits
16:31:56 <zxcvbnm> we call that "sticky tack" :P
16:32:02 <joepie91> so yeah, if you have annoying LEDs, I recommend getting some of taht stuff
16:32:04 <joepie91> that *
16:32:10 <joepie91> anyway
16:32:12 <joepie91> stupid bright LED :P
16:32:18 <joepie91> I also need to turn off my keyboard at night
16:32:20 <joepie91> the lights at least
16:32:21 <zxcvbnm> ya. fuck LEDs when we don't want them
16:32:22 <joepie91> because backlit...
16:32:33 <zxcvbnm> there should be clap on/clap off LEDs
16:32:45 <joepie91> haha
16:32:54 <monod> like Bill Gates' ex office
16:32:56 <monod> :D
16:34:04 <zxcvbnm> http://www.technicallyforeign.com/tblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gates.jpg
16:34:37 <zxcvbnm> hey I got my newest domain today: wtfchristian.com
16:37:45 <monod> gotta damn go studying
16:37:58 <monod> I'm studying something really, really, really interesting: Signals and Systems
16:38:03 <monod> you have to check it out
16:38:05 <zxcvbnm> in which context
16:38:29 <monod> it's an astonoshing class
16:38:38 <monod> context? what doya mean zxcvbnm?
16:38:47 <zxcvbnm> Signals and Systems
16:38:55 <zxcvbnm> in engineering? civil engineering? electronics ?
16:39:06 <monod> informations engineering
16:39:11 <zxcvbnm> oh cool
16:39:13 <zxcvbnm> fun :)
16:39:18 <monod> a broad cateogry
16:39:21 <monod> category*
16:39:26 <zxcvbnm> indeed
16:39:30 <monod> it's hard
16:39:34 <monod> plenty of maths
16:39:48 <monod> but our professor teach it so smoothly
16:39:54 <monod> that makes you love the class
16:40:01 <monod> so this is one of my favorites one
16:40:11 <monod> I got to raise my marks :@
16:40:23 <monod> so I got to study these 2 last weeks
16:40:30 <monod> have a nice dayyyyy!!
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16:44:54 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/3KBvgpe.jpg
16:44:58 <joepie91> cc zxcvbnm lady-3jane
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17:00:19 <joepie91> .bitcoin
17:00:20 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $130.79, 1 BTC = €99.47
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17:32:53 <iceTwy> Amazing.
17:33:02 <iceTwy> shred's done after exactly 24h.
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18:27:05 <zxcvbnm> re: < joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/3KBvgpe.jpg
18:27:10 <zxcvbnm> you're set up ?
18:27:30 <zxcvbnm> it's like a time machine to 2006 :D
18:27:57 <zxcvbnm> what're all those cd boxes up top
18:31:58 <IR601> so thats where the magic happens
18:41:39 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: yup
18:41:40 <joepie91> and lol
18:41:42 <joepie91> why's that
18:41:53 <joepie91> the only hardware there that really _looks_ old
18:41:54 <joepie91> are my speakers
18:42:07 <joepie91> and that's because my new speakers are still boxed up
18:42:14 <joepie91> IR601: indeed!
18:42:24 <joepie91> also, all those CD boxes are many many things
18:42:32 <joepie91> primarily cheapo movies
18:42:36 <joepie91> also some games
18:42:39 <joepie91> and a lot of blank boxes
18:43:20 <joepie91> (also, while only my speakers _look_ old, most of the things there _are_ actually old)
18:44:07 <joepie91> IR601: note the mousepad!
18:45:20 <IR601> hahaha sweet
18:45:26 <IR601> cafepress?
18:45:39 <joepie91> no
18:45:40 <joepie91> artscow
18:45:45 <IR601> kewll
18:45:51 <joepie91> it was like a $1 promo
18:45:55 <joepie91> with free shipping
18:45:56 <joepie91> :p
18:46:01 <IR601> ill make some cc graphics
18:46:04 <IR601> nice wallpaperz
18:46:13 <IR601> oh $1
18:46:15 <IR601> nice!
18:46:21 <joepie91> let me make better pic
18:46:22 <joepie91> of mousepad
18:46:22 <joepie91> sec
18:46:36 <zxcvbnm> i've seen the better mousepad pic
18:46:47 <IR601> i made a logo for a game server and they made mugs with cafe press
18:46:49 <IR601> i have one :)
18:47:14 <joepie91> IR601: http://i.imgur.com/Sk1KigB.jpg
18:47:18 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: this is a new pic
18:47:21 <joepie91> also, cafepress is shite
18:47:21 <joepie91> :p
18:47:34 <IR601> kewwwlll
18:47:42 <IR601> well the mug from them was massive
18:47:51 <IR601> and the print was very good
18:47:57 <IR601> so im happy
18:48:15 <zxcvbnm> do I see the corner of a tablet?
18:48:47 <IR601> thats the laptop i think
18:48:57 <joepie91> laptop on the right
18:49:02 <joepie91> keyboard on the left
18:49:03 <zxcvbnm> o right
18:50:31 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/wX4VvVS.jpg
18:51:07 <zxcvbnm> that is a close up of your moniotr
18:51:18 <joepie91> my laptop, actually
18:51:54 <joepie91> as you can see, this camera isn't very good at lighting + focus differences
18:51:55 <joepie91> :p
18:52:46 <zxcvbnm> here's mine: http://imgur.com/Xwle5a8
18:53:00 <zxcvbnm> this is work, obviously. so it's a bit sterile :P
18:53:15 <zxcvbnm> my home setup is more warm
18:53:17 <iceTwy> hai young people.
18:53:23 <joepie91> oh dear
18:53:28 <joepie91> I'd hate to work there
18:53:28 <joepie91> :/
18:53:36 <zxcvbnm> I don't
18:53:37 <joepie91> I don't like the desk layout
18:53:39 <zxcvbnm> note the nerf gun
18:53:42 <joepie91> lol
18:53:43 <iceTwy> those screens zxcvbnm
18:53:43 <zxcvbnm> statue of david
18:53:51 <iceTwy> tbh
18:53:53 <joepie91> hai iceTwy
18:53:58 <iceTwy> any desk fits if
18:54:01 <iceTwy> 1. LOTS of light
18:54:05 <iceTwy> natural light
18:54:08 <joepie91> iceTwy: did you see my setup pic?
18:54:11 <iceTwy> 2. Properly organized
18:54:17 <iceTwy> 3. Wide enough
18:54:18 <iceTwy> and no
18:54:19 <joepie91> also, zxcvbnm, CABLE ORGANIZERS
18:54:22 <iceTwy> but I eff the link
18:54:28 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/3KBvgpe.jpg
18:54:31 <zxcvbnm> yeah, you can see the natural light.. lots of windows
18:54:49 <iceTwy> now sven
18:54:55 <iceTwy> I'd hate to work at your place lol
18:55:00 <joepie91> also http://i.imgur.com/NwcG2aO.jpg
18:55:04 <joepie91> iceTwy: why? D:
18:55:15 <iceTwy> 1. mess
18:55:16 <zxcvbnm> iceTwy: the dual screens are nice.. shooting for the tri-screens soon :P
18:55:19 <iceTwy> 2. no lights
18:55:24 <iceTwy> 3. barely any space :<
18:55:30 <joepie91> 1. it's not actually _that_ messy
18:55:34 <joepie91> a few things need tidying up
18:55:37 <joepie91> but it's really not that bad
18:55:44 <iceTwy> i'm a tidying nazi
18:55:47 <joepie91> 2. room light was turned off at that point because natural light
18:55:58 <joepie91> 3. space issue will be resolved shortly
18:56:01 * zxcvbnm is a relatively tidy nazi
18:56:02 <joepie91> the tea box is going to move
18:56:08 <joepie91> the laptop will be moved
18:56:12 <joepie91> and replaced with a second monitor
18:56:13 <zxcvbnm> so joepie91 , you would agree as it stands
18:56:17 <zxcvbnm> it is not ideal
18:56:22 <zxcvbnm> because you have plans for improvement
18:56:25 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: my place? obviously
18:56:37 <joepie91> what I miss most is a second monitor
18:56:50 <iceTwy> *sigh* monitors
18:56:51 <zxcvbnm> yeah.. I want a giant 40 inch for my home set up
18:56:53 <joepie91> and I'm considering just running my laptop under the desk
18:56:55 <joepie91> and VNCing into it
18:56:56 <joepie91> or something
18:57:05 <joepie91> it's nice to have distractions on a separate machine
18:57:05 <iceTwy> I have a 2001, 19.2 inches screen.
18:57:09 <joepie91> but I don't like the space it takes up
18:57:16 <joepie91> I don't use the keyboard and trackpoint on my laptop anyway
18:57:18 <iceTwy> For a late 2012 PC. Gaming beast.
18:57:20 <joepie91> because Synergy
18:57:22 <iceTwy> But shit screen.
18:57:30 <joepie91> lol
18:57:30 <zxcvbnm> joepie91: http://images.google.com/imgres?q=desk+laptop+swivel+arm&biw=1920&bih=1139&tbm=isch&tbnid=a4mV9Fw05xBEWM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hifi-tower.co.uk/Citronic-Swing-Arm-Table-Mount-Studio-Desk-Laptop-Tray_i4027.htm&docid=5k1hWu6RwJ2oGM&imgurl=http://media.hifitower.eu/M/10004755_title_laptop_tischhalterung.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=ELifUfqYMaHOyAGEsYGwAw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:2,s:0,i:89&iact=rc&dur=510&page=1&tbnh=180&tbnw=214&start=0&ndsp=48
18:57:36 <zxcvbnm> was that long
18:57:39 <zxcvbnm> whoa
18:57:41 <zxcvbnm> I did not realize.
18:57:43 <zxcvbnm> that link
18:57:44 <zxcvbnm> http://media.hifitower.eu/M/10004755_title_laptop_tischhalterung.jpg is what I meant to send
18:57:59 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: swivel bad
18:58:03 <zxcvbnm> joepie91: swivel good
18:58:06 <joepie91> swivel very bad
18:58:10 <zxcvbnm> swivel very good
18:58:12 <joepie91> no
18:58:14 <zxcvbnm> yes
18:58:15 <joepie91> swivel very bad
18:58:17 <zxcvbnm> swivel very good
18:58:21 <joepie91> lol
18:58:24 <zxcvbnm> grr
18:58:27 <zxcvbnm> :P
18:58:30 <iceTwy> lmao
18:58:33 <joepie91> swivels are ugly, can break, are distractions
18:58:40 <joepie91> and I have nothing to attach it to anyway
18:58:46 <joepie91> swivel bad
18:58:48 <zxcvbnm> sivels have nice feng shui, if bolted in properly are sturdy, and you just said you want a distraction
18:58:55 <zxcvbnm> and you can improvise
18:58:56 <zxcvbnm> swivel good
18:58:57 <joepie91> ???
18:59:00 <zxcvbnm> < joepie91> it's nice to have distractions on a separate machine
18:59:01 <joepie91> I never said I want a distraction
18:59:07 <joepie91> you misinterpreted that
18:59:09 <zxcvbnm> lol
18:59:14 <joepie91> I am consciously moving all distractions to one machine
18:59:18 <joepie91> so that I can close laptop lid
18:59:19 <joepie91> and they're poof
18:59:26 <joepie91> so focus
18:59:28 <iceTwy> the great swivel debate
18:59:41 <zxcvbnm> wait
18:59:44 <zxcvbnm> who is focusing
19:00:21 <iceTwy> also joepie91
19:00:23 <iceTwy> xbmc ftw
19:00:36 <zxcvbnm> zxcvbnm* ftw
19:00:49 <iceTwy> well
19:00:50 <iceTwy> proof
19:00:50 <iceTwy> or lie
19:00:53 <zxcvbnm> hmm
19:01:00 <iceTwy> therfore
19:01:02 <iceTwy> therefore*
19:01:02 <iceTwy> lie
19:01:09 <joepie91> lol
19:01:14 <joepie91> iceTwy: XBMC <3
19:01:17 <zxcvbnm> damnit
19:01:21 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: when I work on code thingies
19:01:24 <joepie91> I need focus
19:01:25 <joepie91> that means no IRC
19:01:32 <joepie91> that means I have to be able to just rm distractions
19:01:38 <joepie91> without having to start up a million things again
19:01:43 <joepie91> when I want to ask something on IRC
19:01:49 <iceTwy> joepie91: the only problem with XBMC is that you can't switch YouTube video quality whilst playing a video.
19:01:58 <iceTwy> the addon doesn't feature that.
19:02:05 <joepie91> so all my distractions (skype, IRC, casual browsing, etc.) are on my laptop
19:02:16 <joepie91> and I just close the lid whenever I have to do work
19:02:19 <joepie91> and open it if I need IRC
19:02:26 <joepie91> iceTwy: just set max quality to 1080p
19:02:28 <joepie91> problem solved
19:02:29 <joepie91> :p
19:02:38 <iceTwy> ye but it takes a while to buffer.
19:02:44 <joepie91> get better internet
19:02:45 <joepie91> problem solved
19:02:45 <iceTwy> sometimes I can load 1080p
19:02:46 <joepie91> :D
19:02:48 <iceTwy> dude
19:02:51 <iceTwy> I would if I could
19:02:52 <zxcvbnm> ok boys
19:02:55 <joepie91> :(
19:02:57 <iceTwy> no
19:02:59 <iceTwy> you're the boy
19:03:03 <zxcvbnm> i have no proof of my ftw :(
19:03:13 <iceTwy> therefore
19:03:15 <iceTwy> you're a lie
19:03:16 <iceTwy> and you're a boy
19:03:19 <iceTwy> lieboy
19:03:23 <IR601> download speed-boost.exe for no trojan internet boost
19:03:43 <iceTwy> WHERE IR601
19:03:49 <iceTwy> PLS DL LINK!!!111
19:04:02 <IR601> lolol
19:04:13 <joepie91> Speed-Up Booster 2014 Ultimate Limited Edition
19:04:52 <joepie91> only 7,119,000,000 downloads available!
19:04:53 <iceTwy> Please give us your credit card number to help us boost your Internet connection!
19:04:57 <zxcvbnm> lol
19:04:59 <iceTwy> EXCLUSIVE TECHNOLOGY RIGHT THERE
19:05:02 <zxcvbnm> god
19:05:08 <joepie91> see also: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
19:05:18 <iceTwy> worldometers
19:05:20 <iceTwy> amazing site
19:05:26 <iceTwy> aweful figures
19:05:44 <zxcvbnm> you have no idea how many of our employees download fake AV and BOost my PC
19:05:50 <zxcvbnm> image this box
19:05:50 <zxcvbnm> image this box
19:06:24 <joepie91> lol
19:06:54 <iceTwy> zxcvbnm, do you run a company?
19:08:42 <joepie91> iceTwy, look at my awesome USB hub!
19:08:43 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/NwcG2aO.jpg
19:09:03 <joepie91> see that thing on the top?
19:09:08 <joepie91> in front of the router
19:09:09 <joepie91> :P
19:09:13 <iceTwy> wtf
19:09:17 <joepie91> 10 port USB hub
19:09:21 <iceTwy> I think you ought to see my PC
19:09:22 <joepie91> the 10th is on the right side
19:09:27 <joepie91> it has independent power
19:09:53 <zxcvbnm> iceTwy: negative
19:10:03 <zxcvbnm> iceTwy: i work at a company though
19:10:36 <zxcvbnm> iceTwy: i'm a security analyst. so I pour through logs all day and make alerts and then have people do stuff
19:11:22 <iceTwy> oo. Fancy.
19:11:52 <iceTwy> is it somewhat enjoyable
19:11:52 <iceTwy> or
19:11:52 <iceTwy> not
19:11:59 <zxcvbnm> very enjoyable
19:12:01 <zxcvbnm> because it varies
19:12:10 <iceTwy> oh
19:12:11 <zxcvbnm> it is a game company
19:12:16 <zxcvbnm> so, before we launched our game
19:12:20 <zxcvbnm> I was doing memory hacking against our game
19:12:28 <zxcvbnm> trying to break shit, etc etc
19:12:36 <iceTwy> now that's cool, lmao
19:12:40 <iceTwy> but I can pwn your ass with Cheat Engine!!
19:12:43 <iceTwy> 11!
19:12:43 <joepie91> he's like the manual human version of the chaos monkey!
19:12:47 <joepie91> :P
19:12:58 <joepie91> (it was called 'chaos monkey', right?)
19:13:06 <zxcvbnm> haha :D
19:13:23 <joepie91> https://github.com/Netflix/SimianArmy/wiki
19:14:21 <iceTwy> wait..
19:14:27 <iceTwy> Netflix is on github?
19:14:28 <joepie91> yes
19:14:32 <iceTwy> mind = blown
19:14:35 <iceTwy> amazing
19:14:35 <joepie91> also, http://localhost.re/
19:14:38 <joepie91> :"P
19:14:39 <joepie91> :P *
19:15:58 <zxcvbnm> iceTwy: here is an example of some of the tools I build for our NOC/SOC
19:16:00 <zxcvbnm> http://i.imgur.com/eBXze00.jpg
19:16:37 <iceTwy> cool stuff there
19:16:48 <zxcvbnm> I just try to make correlating logs easier
19:16:56 <zxcvbnm> on me, my team, and those who may come after me
19:17:46 <iceTwy> true
19:18:05 <iceTwy> derpity Chinese hackers..
19:18:39 <zxcvbnm> mmhm
19:49:29 <IR601> [on] what are we doing?
19:49:35 <IR601> COMBO BREAKERR1!1!
19:53:54 <zxcvbnm> alright, we've got a 3 day weekend and we get out early. see ya on the 28th
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19:54:34 <joepie91> ttyl zxcvbnm-g0ne :)
19:57:35 <iceTwy> aight
20:01:25 <joepie91> http://www.canvas.be/video_overzicht/61077
20:01:34 <joepie91> also watchable if you don't speak Dutch/Flemish
20:01:40 <joepie91> largely english
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20:09:00 <lady-3jane> alright
20:09:38 <iceTwy> hai lady-3jane
20:14:51 <lady-3jane> hello iceTwy :)
20:15:18 <joepie91> logg,y
20:15:19 <joepie91> er
20:15:22 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
20:15:22 <loggy> http://wire.cryto.net/logs/crytocc/2013-05-24#T20-15-22
20:15:35 <lady-3jane> I can read up
20:15:36 <lady-3jane> :)
20:16:14 <iceTwy> joepie91
20:16:14 <joepie91> yes, but I disconnected
20:16:14 <joepie91> :P
20:16:19 <iceTwy> xbmc is extremely buggy for me tbh
20:16:30 <iceTwy> videos stop loading then I have a major screen lockup
20:16:32 <lady-3jane> lol xbmc
20:16:34 <joepie91> iceTwy: it shouldn't be
20:16:39 <iceTwy> so I have to switch to tty1 to kill -9 it
20:16:43 <lady-3jane> used to be the biggest piece of shit
20:16:48 <joepie91> lady-3jane: indeed
20:16:52 <joepie91> I avoided it like the plague for a long time
20:16:57 <joepie91> then recently found out that it's actually quite awesome now
20:17:00 <joepie91> not a resource hog anymore
20:17:03 <joepie91> and generally stable
20:17:04 <lady-3jane> I'm glad :D
20:17:11 <joepie91> in fact, I can now run it on my hardware smoothly
20:17:12 * lady-3jane uses smplayer for video
20:17:17 <joepie91> while 4 years ago, I couldn't
20:17:23 <lady-3jane> mplayer + clicky
20:17:23 <iceTwy> vlc
20:17:24 <iceTwy> ftw
20:17:35 <iceTwy> think I've been using VLC ever since it came out
20:17:38 <iceTwy> it's so amazing.
20:17:49 <iceTwy> but OT, joepie91
20:17:59 <iceTwy> my concern with XBMC is that I can't properly fullscreen it
20:18:01 <iceTwy> Like
20:18:07 <iceTwy> \ doesn't really work
20:18:19 <iceTwy> Instead I have to use Alt+F11 but that's XFCE full screen
20:18:32 <iceTwy> doesn't just fullscreen XBMC but all of XFCE
20:18:35 <iceTwy> and I think it causes bugs
20:18:51 <joepie91> define "doesn't really work"
20:18:53 <iceTwy> so I'll just change the keyboard.xml file
20:19:05 <iceTwy> well, it simply doesn't go fullscreen with \
20:19:12 <iceTwy> but I think I know why
20:19:15 <joepie91> check your config
20:19:15 <joepie91> :p
20:19:21 <iceTwy> with AZERTY keyboards
20:19:42 <iceTwy> \ is actually AltGr + 8
20:19:47 <iceTwy> definitely not a standalone key
20:20:15 <lady-3jane> ha. this is gonna be rich
20:20:36 <joepie91> iceTwy: you... don't have a dedicated backslash key?
20:20:41 <joepie91> who the fuck thought of AZERTY, raelly
20:20:44 <joepie91> really *
20:20:51 <joepie91> it's even more ridiculous than QWERTY...
20:21:19 <iceTwy> I simply have a slash key
20:21:28 <iceTwy> no dedicated backslash key tho
20:21:30 <joepie91> slash != backslash
20:21:35 <iceTwy> I know
20:21:38 <joepie91> backslash is a vital part of windows commandline syntax
20:21:42 <joepie91> how can a keyboard not support that
20:21:48 <lady-3jane> I'm gonna predict ahead of time that this article at salon I'm about to read is gonna go like this: "So I reacted against drones because I'm a progressive and that's what we're supposed to do, but I looked at it and decided they're awesome. I know almost nothing about them, but after thinking about it for 12 seconds and writing a pageview sucking article, I've decided I like the things."
20:21:48 <joepie91> by default
20:21:49 <iceTwy> backslash \ and slash /
20:22:10 <iceTwy> well
20:22:10 <iceTwy> heh
20:22:17 <joepie91> lady-3jane: link?
20:22:22 <lady-3jane> http://www.salon.com/2013/05/24/a_progressive_defense_of_drones/
20:22:27 <lady-3jane> you need only read the url
20:22:28 <lady-3jane> lol
20:22:30 <joepie91> lol
20:22:31 <joepie91> yes
20:22:37 <lady-3jane> seriously
20:22:41 <lady-3jane> what I just wrote is his byline
20:22:41 <lady-3jane> lol
20:22:41 <joepie91> let's see how scannable Salon is
20:22:50 <lady-3jane> er...
20:22:52 <lady-3jane> subheader?
20:22:58 <lady-3jane> I forget the name for that in print
20:23:10 <lady-3jane> A progressive defense of drones
20:23:10 <lady-3jane> As a liberal I was against drones reflexively. But the moral debate is more complicated than I'd realized
20:23:22 <lady-3jane> you don't need to read any further ^
20:23:48 <joepie91> The pain and death of drone strikes, unlike the pain and death of traditional missions, can draw no comfort from narratives of heroism. Destruction wrought by machines is neither noble nor grand. Its asinine, and unfailingly repugnant. This means that drone strikes must be justified on their own terms, without recourse to wars long-standing mystification.
20:23:52 <joepie91> I don't think I agree with this
20:24:06 <joepie91> unless they are 100% fully unmanned
20:24:09 <joepie91> not even surveilled
20:24:15 <joepie91> otherwise, you'll just get the videogame effect kicking in
20:24:21 <lady-3jane> which is how they train them
20:24:27 <lady-3jane> they use xbox controllers, did you know that?
20:24:31 <joepie91> ...
20:24:40 <lady-3jane> they're the best controllers that exist, it only seems fitting
20:24:40 <lady-3jane> :P
20:24:46 <lady-3jane> but yeah
20:25:00 * joepie91 doesn't like xbox controllers
20:25:03 <joepie91> the form factor is horrid imo
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20:25:16 <lady-3jane> they used to use the joystick controllers and such, because they were trying to teach pilots how to fly them
20:25:17 <anonO_o> hai
20:25:19 <lady-3jane> they crashed them all the time
20:25:42 <lady-3jane> so they got gamer kids in the military, no flight experience AT ALL, no concept of how a plane works, and they put them in a simulator with an xbox controller
20:26:02 <lady-3jane> instantly the crash rates dropped by like 70%
20:26:18 <lady-3jane> and so now they do a 6 month training program, and it's video games
20:26:20 <joepie91> lol
20:26:21 <lady-3jane> that's exactly what it is
20:26:28 <joepie91> anyway
20:26:30 <joepie91> time to write code!
20:26:30 <lady-3jane> drone video games, but games
20:26:36 <lady-3jane> yap
20:28:17 <lady-3jane> since everyone asks, yes we have test drones which can take off and land (from land based airports) and kill targets with no human intervention
20:28:30 <lady-3jane> they aren't used yet, but we had the first successful test last fall out in the desert
20:28:35 <lady-3jane> (us desert)
20:40:29 <iceTwy> SUCCESS
20:40:38 <iceTwy> altgr + _ is now my fullscreen toggle
20:40:39 <iceTwy> on XBMC
20:41:50 <iceTwy> or not
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20:59:47 <iceTwy> oh
20:59:52 <iceTwy> at least I'll have learnt something
21:00:00 <iceTwy> the slash on the numpad
21:00:04 <iceTwy> is actually a divide sign
21:00:06 <joepie91> %$&%*$^*%%^%$^%
21:00:13 <joepie91> stupid lighttpd
21:00:16 <joepie91> iceTwy: huh?
21:00:36 <joepie91> also https://github.com/joepie91/cphp/commit/238195c19a08150cbf11d65697cdc45e73398f83
21:00:50 <joepie91> * when using the server.error-handler-404 directive that is required to
21:00:50 <joepie91> * use the CPHP router. This patch will try to detect such problems, and
21:00:50 <joepie91> * manually extract the GET data from the request URI. I admit, it's a
21:00:50 <joepie91> * bit of a hack, but there doesn't really seem to be a different way of
21:00:50 <joepie91> * solving this issue. */
21:00:54 <joepie91> whoops
21:00:59 <joepie91> /* lighttpd (and perhaps some other HTTPds) won't pass on GET parameters
21:00:59 <joepie91> * when using the server.error-handler-404 directive that is required to
21:00:59 <joepie91> * use the CPHP router. This patch will try to detect such problems, and
21:00:59 <joepie91> * manually extract the GET data from the request URI. I admit, it's a
21:00:59 <joepie91> * bit of a hack, but there doesn't really seem to be a different way of
21:00:59 <joepie91> * solving this issue. */
21:03:01 <iceTwy> joepie91: I tried to tweak the keyboard buttons in the keyboard.xml.
21:03:03 <iceTwy> For XBMC.
21:03:20 <iceTwy> I thought putting <slash>togglefullscreen</slash> would be good enough
21:03:36 <iceTwy> after all <key>action</key> is the way this file works
21:03:38 <iceTwy> or
21:03:40 <iceTwy> how it's mapped rather
21:03:49 <iceTwy> but slash isn't recognized
21:04:01 <iceTwy> slash = dividesign for XBMC
21:04:15 <joepie91> lolwut
21:05:55 <iceTwy> yup
21:05:59 <iceTwy> hence why it didn't recognize slash
21:06:04 <iceTwy> and slash didn't toggle full screen
21:06:08 <iceTwy> but now, it does
21:18:54 <lady-3jane> nice desk joepie91 :)
21:27:05 <joepie91> yes
21:27:06 <joepie91> it's very nice
21:27:16 <joepie91> interestingly, it's an IKEA desk
21:27:33 <iceTwy> his desk is messy!
21:27:36 <iceTwy> :D
21:32:11 <joepie91> wow
21:32:22 <joepie91> de dutch prime minister is a moron
21:32:24 <joepie91> the *
21:32:43 <joepie91> his words: "this [government] is the best since WWII"
21:34:35 <iceTwy> what if it was
21:34:36 <iceTwy> huehuehue
21:34:46 <joepie91> read that sentence a few times
21:34:48 <joepie91> until it sinks in
21:35:06 <lady-3jane> I dunno what's wrong with it
21:35:21 <lady-3jane> but you should code instead of explaining it to me
21:35:46 <joepie91> he is basically implying that the government during WWII (!) was the only government in recent history that didn't top the current one
21:36:05 <joepie91> perhaps this is unclear if you're not familiar with Dutch WWII history
21:36:06 <joepie91> but eh...
21:36:08 <iceTwy> well it depends
21:36:14 <iceTwy> how was the Dutch --
21:36:16 <iceTwy> since WW2?
21:36:31 <iceTwy> but the WW2-Dutch gvt had probably kneeled to Germany
21:36:33 <iceTwy> ye
21:36:36 <joepie91> exactly
21:36:38 <iceTwy> he is a moron actually
21:36:39 <iceTwy> good point
21:37:14 <joepie91> plenty of deportation and such taking place here
21:37:25 <joepie91> so yeah, if you want to call that a 'good government'...
21:37:37 <iceTwy> *shrug*
21:37:49 <iceTwy> I'm afraid I've given up on politics
21:38:13 <iceTwy> if only our "representatives" understood that besides sitting in a Parliament
21:38:20 <iceTwy> they were supposed to represent people
21:38:22 <iceTwy> lots of people even
21:38:26 <iceTwy> and listen to them
21:38:32 <iceTwy> we probably wouldn't be where we are now
21:39:14 <joepie91> http://i.imgur.com/IgKiW.jpg < this is minecraft...
21:40:54 <iceTwy> minecraft?
21:40:57 <iceTwy> years I haven't played it
21:41:06 <lady-3jane> no joepie91, that's impressive is what it is
21:41:18 <lady-3jane> which reminds me to install mc
21:41:21 <iceTwy> holy cow
21:41:22 <iceTwy> nice
21:42:18 <joepie91> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asImTDkPWKA&feature=player_embedded
21:42:20 <iceTwy> good movies to watch someone?
21:44:40 <joepie91> Stealing Rembrandt
21:46:56 <IR601> flight
21:51:13 <anonO_o> heh, I asked that on voxanon a little bit ago.
21:52:01 <IR601> joepie91 wtf is up with your 1998 speakers?!?!
21:52:10 <IR601> i only just noticed lmao
22:07:31 <lady-3jane> lol
22:07:37 <lady-3jane> I've got 2002 speakers :D
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22:29:50 <joepie91> IR601: they're basically from 1998, yes
22:29:53 <joepie91> about 15 years old iirc
22:30:12 <joepie91> my new speakers are still in a box
22:30:18 <joepie91> need to find the right box from the stack
22:30:19 <joepie91> and, lazy
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23:19:08 <iceTwy> joepie91: you need someone to help you out then
23:19:08 <iceTwy> :D
23:22:09 <IR601> u have new speakers lol
23:22:21 <IR601> when were they brought 2004?
23:32:52 <joepie91> [sven ~/projects/cphp 01:31:34] acpi -t
23:32:52 <joepie91> Thermal 0: ok, 14.0 degrees C
23:32:54 <joepie91> k...
23:33:05 <joepie91> not sure if I should be happy or worried
23:33:13 <joepie91> about my CPU temp sensor functioning as a room temp sensor
23:33:16 <joepie91> also, why the fuck is the heating off
23:33:30 <joepie91> IR601: about 1,5 years ago
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23:45:23 <iceTwy> time to kill
23:45:24 <iceTwy> watdo?
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