Cryto! 15 May 2013

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15:06:28 <zxcvbnm> morning
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15:33:17 <zxcvbnm> joepie91: I stole your joke
15:33:21 <zxcvbnm> I don't know if it was your joke though
15:38:11 <joepie91> zxcvbnm:
15:38:13 <joepie91> also hai
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15:55:01 * zxcvbnm is reading now
15:55:17 * zxcvbnm stole the SQLrillex joke from you, not sure if it was yours to begin with
15:55:32 * zxcvbnm doesn't know what he's gonna do with it yet, maybe nothing, maybe something
15:57:03 <MK_FG> Stole as in "now you have it and joepie91 doesn't"?
15:57:05 <zxcvbnm> ??? I'll let the Developers reply to you, because I can't really be fucked answering a fucken little know it all like you. ZPanel Support Team???
15:57:20 <zxcvbnm> Hardly sounds like support... sounds like asshole
15:57:29 <zxcvbnm> MK_FG: That's right, he can never get it back w/o me.. :P
15:57:31 <joepie91> ah, the sqlrillex one wasn't mine
15:57:31 <joepie91> :P
15:57:34 <joepie91> I just copypasted it
15:57:38 <joepie91> also
15:57:41 <joepie91> zxcvbnm
15:57:44 <joepie91> I've noticed a trend
15:57:49 <joepie91> in the way the ZPanel team interacts
15:57:56 <joepie91> every single one of them has done the same:
15:58:05 <zxcvbnm> mk good then I stole someone else's joke.
15:58:17 <joepie91> 1. attack me personally, insinuate that I have no idea how code works, claim I don't know anything about security, claim websec knows more about it than me
15:58:31 <joepie91> even some derogatory terms and trying to write off what I say on personality
15:58:36 <joepie91> "know-it-all little shit" etc
15:58:39 <joepie91> 2. deny the vulnerability
15:58:43 <joepie91> 3. deny the vulnerability again
15:58:55 <joepie91> 4. explain how it's not actually a vulnerability, of course a blatantly incorrect excuse
15:59:03 <joepie91> 5. explain how it's a vulnerability, but noone will exploit it
15:59:09 <joepie91> 6. explain how they can't fix the vulnerability
15:59:11 <joepie91> rinse repeat
15:59:31 <joepie91> they literally told me that "this is how a PHP templater is _supposed_ to work!"
15:59:38 <zxcvbnm> Nailed it!
15:59:40 <joepie91> uh, no, it really isn't
15:59:42 <MK_FG> Logical 7 would be "sue you to death for disclosing irrelevant not-vulnerability-at-all"
15:59:44 <joepie91> anyway
15:59:47 <joepie91> I get this response from everyone
15:59:48 <joepie91> devs
15:59:50 <joepie91> "support" team
15:59:55 <joepie91> literally every single person
15:59:56 * zxcvbnm likes this
15:59:58 <joepie91> I've talked to like 4 people now
15:59:59 <joepie91> same thing
16:00:02 * zxcvbnm forwards this to the security team for a good read
16:00:08 <joepie91> I was recently contacted by someone that claims to have disclosed a vuln to zpanel in the past
16:00:12 <joepie91> and he described a similar experience
16:00:18 <joepie91> so, eh...
16:00:56 <MK_FG> What a nice team! I want to work there ;)
16:01:13 <zxcvbnm> So, they will be broken
16:01:54 <MK_FG> I can only imagine how they interact with each other (in the office space or remotely...)
16:02:21 <joepie91> technically they don't have an office
16:02:26 <joepie91> spare time open-source project
16:02:33 <MK_FG> Hard to imagine assholes forming anything resembling a "team"
16:02:35 <joepie91> (which they use as yet another excuse for vulns to be in their code)
16:02:50 <joepie91> because apparently if it's open-source and free, vulnerabilities don't matter!
16:02:57 <joepie91> and they can't be expected to fix them!
16:07:32 <joepie91> ... wow. just wow.
16:07:55 <joepie91> MK_FG, zxcvbnm,
16:09:36 <zxcvbnm> lol....
16:09:40 <zxcvbnm> Stop being a fuckwit ??
16:09:53 <MK_FG> Reddit/hn would be delighted to share the hate towards both parties of that shot ;)
16:09:56 <zxcvbnm> joepie, you mind if I share this ?
16:10:49 <MK_FG> But yeah, I wouldn't expect any sane folks to sink that low
16:11:03 <zxcvbnm> sucks when people are total douches
16:11:18 <MK_FG> Thanks for a neat counter-example to that expectation! ;)
16:11:21 * zxcvbnm awaits brain pwnage
16:17:04 <joepie91> zxcvbnm: by all means share
16:17:07 <joepie91> it's all public
16:17:53 <zxcvbnm> My co-worker: Most awesome!  The last time I was researching ZPanel issues it seemed that they were keeping a tight lid on things.
16:17:57 <zxcvbnm> Introducing password hashing in version 10 is lameness and speaks to their security proficiency.
16:19:23 <joepie91> lol
16:19:24 <joepie91> yes\
16:19:26 <joepie91> yes *
16:19:29 <joepie91> there's many many other issues
16:19:32 <joepie91> that were only recently fixed
16:19:39 <joepie91> CSRF protection and SQLi protection are both only very recently added
16:19:42 <joepie91> and only half-assed, too
16:19:51 <joepie91> *after* their PDO fixes, the password reset was still vuln
16:19:57 <joepie91> and at this very moment, the logout page is vuln to CSRF
16:23:04 * zxcvbnm go oonn
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16:50:34 <MK_FG> I'm feeling like an old "the world's gone mad" man these days
16:51:33 <MK_FG> AP privacy scandal, skype privacy scandal, siezes mtgox' moneys, ...
16:52:07 <MK_FG> Internets look like tv news these days
16:52:19 <MK_FG> Is it just me?
16:54:18 <MK_FG> Also that big saudi tapping thing
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16:56:26 <Krazee> yup, i agree
17:01:07 <zxcvbnm> I think the world has been mad for a long time, maybe our situational awareness just keeps going up due to interconnectivity
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17:09:11 <MK_FG> Net-sensations, fud, politics, propaganda at every corner!
17:09:20 <Xeross> the usual
17:10:23 <MK_FG> Yeah, guess my meds went overdue
17:16:09 <joepie91> ohai Xeross
17:16:12 <joepie91> long time no talk!
17:16:18 <Xeross> Eeyup
17:16:20 <joepie91> did you know: I now have a mousepad with your cryto blocks
17:16:24 <joepie91> and other stuffs
17:16:28 <Xeross> Cool
17:16:30 <joepie91> :P
17:16:37 <Xeross> I got a 200EUR raise
17:16:44 <Xeross> finally above 1k after tax a month
17:16:46 <joepie91> / mo?
17:16:48 <joepie91> heh
17:17:06 <Xeross> And new laptop
17:17:20 <Xeross> 16GB RAM, Intel i7 3630QM, 1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, NVidia GTX660M
17:17:42 <joepie91> not bad
17:19:29 <Xeross> 1200EUR
17:19:31 <Xeross> or so
17:21:21 <MK_FG> Congrats!
17:21:52 <Krazee> DAMN that's some nice laptop
17:22:11 <MK_FG> I'd hoard these $$$ and go job-free in a few months ;)
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18:40:52 <Xeross> MK_FG: Hoard?
18:41:31 <MK_FG> Yep, just put under teh matress
18:45:01 <Xeross> I only keep like 100EUR a month max
18:45:06 <Xeross> rest is rent, food, entertainment, etc.
18:46:46 <MK_FG> Heh, yeah, definitely not applicable with lifestyle like yours ;)
18:51:11 <joepie91> Xeross: where do you buy food?
18:51:22 <Power2All> Heya :)
18:51:31 <joepie91> also:
18:51:33 <joepie91> also, hai Power2All
18:51:36 <Xeross> joepie91: Albert Heijn, but most of the days free meals at my parent's place
18:51:40 <Power2All> Hows it going
18:51:42 <Xeross> Heya Power2All
18:51:46 <Power2All> Hoi Xeross
18:51:47 <joepie91> Xeross: you buy cheap stuff, or more expensive stuff?
18:52:07 <joepie91> as in
18:52:11 <Xeross> joepie91: euroshopper whenever possible (And not utter crap)
18:52:11 <joepie91> euroshopper or AH/A-brand
18:52:13 <Power2All> Found a funny Family Guy - Heared About The Bird remix xD
18:52:15 <joepie91> alright
18:52:21 <joepie91> euroshopper is actually really damn cheap
18:52:25 <joepie91> cheaper than Lidl and Aldi with a lot of things
18:52:28 <Power2All>
18:52:29 <Xeross> They have stoped selling Euroshopper
18:52:31 <joepie91> (but certainly of lower quality too)
18:52:35 <joepie91> Xeross: not really, just rebranding
18:52:41 <joepie91> according to themn
18:52:41 <Xeross> Yep
18:52:42 <joepie91> them *
18:52:43 <Xeross> AH Basic
18:52:46 <joepie91> yes
18:52:55 <joepie91> anyway, quality of euroshopper is lower but generally pretty good still
18:53:02 <joepie91> quality of Lidl is getting better and better
18:53:11 <Power2All> Heared about that horse meat stuff
18:53:12 <joepie91> recently got cruesli from the Lidl, the normal variant, not the premium variant
18:53:15 <joepie91> probably the best I've ever had
18:53:17 <Power2All> Maffia was involved with it xD
18:53:23 <joepie91> and if the normal one is that good
18:53:27 <joepie91> I wonder about the premium stuff...
18:53:28 <joepie91> Power2All: heh, yes
18:53:34 <joepie91> also, euroshopper was affecteed
18:53:38 <joepie91> affected *
18:53:46 <Xeross> Why would I care about horse meat
18:53:49 <Xeross> meat is meat
18:53:58 <Xeross> And only meat I ever ate from the euroshopper was turkey and chicken
18:53:59 <Power2All> Meh
18:54:01 <Power2All> Some people do
18:54:01 <Xeross> can't care much
18:54:13 <Xeross> As long as it's healthy horse and not dead for 4 months and decomposing horse
18:54:16 <Power2All> + you dont know what medication the horses got taken.
18:54:20 <Power2All> And sofar I heared, it was bad.
18:54:38 <Xeross> From a food safety standpoint it's bad and should be resolved
18:54:46 <Xeross> from a, me standpoint, no fucks given
18:55:02 <joepie91> Xeross: 99% of euroshopper meat is chicken anyway\
18:55:05 <joepie91> rookworst? chicken
18:55:08 <joepie91> knakworst? chicken
18:55:20 <joepie91> lasanga? hors
18:55:22 <joepie91> horse *
18:55:25 <Power2All> Nothing beats HEMA wursts :)
18:55:25 <joepie91> pretty much everything else? chicken
18:55:26 <joepie91> lol
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18:55:50 <Power2All> Oh joepie
18:55:56 <Power2All> I got a nice offer at a hosting provider.
18:56:05 <Power2All> 4 VPS's, all 4 cores, togheter 16 cores.
18:56:12 <Power2All> 2 NGINX and 2 PHP instances
18:56:18 <Power2All> and a seperate File serving
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18:56:21 <Power2All> for 28$
18:56:23 <Power2All> Per month
18:56:26 <Power2All> on 1 gbit
18:56:26 <Power2All> :P
18:56:29 <Power2All> so 4gbit
18:56:31 <Power2All> :D
18:56:36 <joepie91> huh
18:56:38 <Xeross> How do
18:56:51 <joepie91> that's quite nice
18:56:54 <Power2All> Yah
18:56:54 <joepie91> 4 shared or 4 dedicated cores?
18:56:54 <Xeross> I currently pay like 60-80 for 5 VPSs
18:56:54 <Power2All> dedicated
18:56:56 <joepie91> that's really nice then
18:56:57 <joepie91> KVM?
18:57:00 <Power2All> They running KVM software
18:57:01 <joepie91> neat
18:57:03 <Power2All> Yup :P
18:57:12 <Power2All> And the guy supports my radio.
18:57:18 <Power2All> I get free backup hosting when I get too many listeners
18:57:18 <Power2All> ;)
18:57:24 <joepie91> oh, that's very nice
18:57:27 <joepie91> :D
18:57:36 <Power2All> Yeah, I love it when hosters support my work.
18:57:45 <Power2All> Hope the Warp2One gets a lot of listeners.
18:57:49 <Power2All> Huge names gonna send in DJ sets.
18:58:08 <Power2All> A few from Qlimax too
18:58:14 <Power2All> And a person from Defqon too.
18:58:24 <Power2All> And some other big names in the non-commercial industry.
18:58:48 <Xeross> Nice
18:59:06 <Power2All> Yah.
18:59:11 <Power2All> I found a nice hardstyle kick too.
18:59:13 <Power2All> xD
18:59:25 <Power2All> Working on a remix of Gentleman from PSY and a Silent Hill remix.
19:00:47 <joepie91> PSY D:
19:00:56 <joepie91> PSY is evil!
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19:01:19 <Power2All> xD
19:01:20 <Power2All> Nah
19:01:24 <Power2All> Hij is lache xD
19:02:32 <Xeross> Gentleman remix, want er zijn al 9001 gangnam style remixes
19:02:43 <Xeross> En ja had volgens mij die Silent Hill al gehoord, had je die niet op Twitter gepost ofzo Power2All ?
19:02:48 <Power2All>
19:02:49 <Power2All> xD
19:02:52 <Power2All> Deze is wel lolz
19:02:56 <Power2All> Yah
19:03:01 <Power2All> heb een nieuwe gemaakt
19:03:03 <Power2All> met hardstyle kick
19:03:04 <Xeross> Kick mistte alleen punch
19:03:12 <Power2All> Yah klopt
19:03:14 <Power2All> Heb een nieuwe gemaakt
19:03:16 <Power2All> Nog niet geupload
19:03:59 <Xeross> Die DJ Vhart is bijna alleen een loopje onder het origineel gegooid lijkt het wel
19:04:36 <Power2All> Yah.
19:04:57 <Power2All> Achja, ik kloot iig ook alleen maar aan ;)
19:07:40 <Xeross> Power2All: dit heeft een maat van me gemaakt
19:07:57 <Xeross> Power2All: en een andere maat van me krijgt les van DJ Thera mbt productie
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19:09:33 <Power2All> hehe k
19:09:34 <Power2All>
19:09:39 <Power2All> Deze set heb ik ook pas geleden gemaakt.
19:09:57 <Power2All> Nice
19:09:58 <Power2All> speedcore
19:10:22 <Power2All> Dit is bij verre na Hardcore, dit komt in de buurt van de speedfreak
19:10:30 <Power2All> Klinkt goed btw.
19:10:48 <Power2All> Nederlandert die dit gemaakt heeft ?
19:11:02 <Power2All> Ah Nederlandert ;)
19:12:45 <Power2All> Goeie producer zover ik het hoor.
19:12:49 <Power2All> Lekker stampwerk ook.
19:13:08 <Xeross> Yep die Raw Oscillator is hollander, en heeft meerdere aliassen voor andere genres
19:13:27 <Xeross> en andere gast in kwestie maakt ook wel lekkere kicks enzo maar heeft al te lang niks op Soundcloud gedumpt:
19:13:44 <Power2All> mmmm
19:13:57 <Power2All> Kun je em eens vragen of ie zin heeft een setje van een uur op te nemen voor een online party ?
19:14:02 <Power2All> Lucky Lotus Festival 3 ?
19:14:20 <Matrix> jeez
19:14:27 <Matrix> Power2All, dayum
19:14:30 <Power2All> Hey Matrix ;)
19:14:39 <Matrix> holy shit
19:14:43 <Matrix> did the anonops boat sink?
19:14:43 <Xeross> Power2All: welke van de 2, en aangezien het beide meer producers dan DJs zijn
19:14:54 <Power2All> Matrix: Ik ben al heeeeel lang weg bij Anonops...
19:14:54 <Xeross> Matrix: wait that boat was still afloat after more leaks than he titanic?
19:15:06 <Power2All> Xeross: Hij kan toch wel mixen... zoveel werk is dat niet eens..
19:15:12 <Matrix> Power2All: i nich dautch gesprachen
19:15:14 <Matrix> ich*
19:15:16 <Xeross> Haha vast wel, maar welke van de 2
19:15:21 <Power2All> Matrix: Oh yah sowwy.
19:15:23 <Xeross> En hoe moet ie contact met je op nemen
19:15:30 <Power2All> I left AnonOps for a loooong time.
19:15:35 <Matrix> i know :3
19:15:35 <Power2All> Xeross:
19:15:42 <Power2All> Of op fagbook
19:15:48 <Power2All>
19:16:36 <Power2All> Im never going to AnonOps anymore, I did however ones pop up, but yah, it's runned by kids...
19:16:54 <Power2All> It's like kindergarten xD
19:17:49 <Xeross> Power2All: je kan het ook zelf vragen, genoeg contactinfo op Soundcloud
19:18:25 <Power2All> hehe k
19:18:25 <Power2All> ;)
19:19:00 <Matrix> well
19:19:17 <Matrix> i lost faith in anonops
19:19:20 <Matrix> then voxanon
19:19:21 <Matrix> thene evrything else
19:19:39 <Matrix> now i just lurk
19:19:41 <Matrix> doxxing kiddos
19:19:42 <Matrix> for lulz
19:19:44 <Power2All> VoxAnon got DDoS't to shit.
19:19:50 <Power2All> And my previous job too.
19:19:51 <Matrix> i know ^^
19:20:04 <Power2All> I still think it was the child fag at AnonOps.
19:20:09 <Power2All> But he claims he wasn't doing it.
19:20:19 * joepie91 reminds people of the channel topic, off-handedly
19:20:21 <Power2All> But whatever tbh.
19:20:38 <Power2All> Its no drama anymore joepie91
19:20:40 <Power2All> This is past shit
19:20:40 <Power2All> xD
19:20:52 <joepie91> I know, was more refering to the 'anon' part
19:20:55 <joepie91> things related to anon tend to escalate
19:20:57 <joepie91> for one reason or another
19:21:04 <joepie91> few remarks back and forth is fine
19:21:04 <Power2All> oh, AnonOps what I did there was not related to Anon stuff.
19:21:08 <Power2All> xD
19:21:12 <joepie91> but discussions about anon generally end up escalating
19:21:12 <joepie91> :p
19:21:17 <Power2All> Yah...
19:21:26 <joepie91> not quite sure why, but yeah
19:21:33 <Power2All> Kids
19:21:33 <Power2All> ;)
19:21:49 * Matrix awaits flame
19:21:54 <zxcvbnm> don't tak eit out on the Moooses
19:22:04 <zxcvbnm> Mooooooooos
19:22:10 <Matrix> nooossees
19:22:17 <Power2All> Dont talk shit about bacon pretty pls.
19:22:36 <Matrix> wiat
19:22:39 <Matrix> what?
19:22:41 <Matrix> You dont fucking make bacon off a moose
19:22:42 <Power2All> Nothing beats bacon
19:22:42 <Matrix> thats retarded
19:22:43 <Power2All> :)
19:22:44 <Matrix> that like....
19:22:46 <Matrix> thats*
19:22:51 <Power2All> Hey matrix..
19:22:53 <Power2All> Did you heared ?
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19:23:00 <Matrix> chopping off someones head saying "hey i chopped off this guys arm!"
19:23:02 <Power2All>
19:23:04 <Power2All> xD
19:23:44 <Power2All> Love that song xD
19:24:13 <Xeross> Power2All: S3RL - The Wilhelm Scream
19:24:14 <Xeross> :P
19:24:16 <Power2All> xD
19:24:26 <Xeross> And Press Play is also cool
19:24:46 <Power2All> S3rl - MTC
19:24:47 <Power2All> ;)
19:24:49 <Power2All>
19:25:01 <Power2All> Masturbate To Cartoons
19:25:02 <Power2All> xD
19:25:57 <Power2All> It's funny how Im maintaining a server for a big hentai fansub group xD
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19:35:21 <joepie91> hentai... fansub?
19:35:22 <joepie91> that exists?
19:38:51 <Xeross> Who else would sub it for the english folks
19:38:56 <Xeross> that's even a bitch for regular anime
19:39:24 <joepie91> fair point
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21:39:44 <iceTwy> hai
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22:01:52 <joepie91> ohai!
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22:04:33 <ElectRo`> server went boom :<
22:04:50 <ElectRo`> set and forget
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