Cryto! 3 May 2013
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08:25:45 <Matrix> fuck
08:25:46 <Matrix> joepie91:
08:25:49 <Matrix> bitcoin collapse
08:25:53 <Matrix> .bitcoin
08:25:54 <botpie91> 1 BTC = $86.23, 1 BTC = €66.00
08:29:27 <MK_FG> Guess all the people who grabbed it finally got tired of waiting for it to rise
08:30:21 <Matrix> no
08:30:31 <Matrix> the USA peeps sued mt.gox
08:30:33 <Matrix> or are sueing
08:30:41 <Matrix> because mt.gox broke the deal
08:30:47 <MK_FG> Oh, wow, linky!
08:30:51 <Matrix> http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
08:30:56 <MK_FG> Thanks
08:42:59 <MK_FG> Do you guys know why painting of this thing is pixelated - http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ap6gd.jpg ?
09:01:47 <IR601> cause peoples brains are now digital
09:08:47 <DrWhat> https://mtgox.com/pdf/20130424_ddos_statement_and_faq.pdf
09:10:26 <DrWhat> https://mtgox.com/pdf/20130503_coinlab_lawsuit.pdf
09:13:38 <DrWhat> imma start on novecoin
09:14:52 <IR601> is this how a WAF works? s
09:15:10 <IR601> webserver reverse proxy -> WAF -> application
09:21:32 <DrWhat> no
09:21:44 <DrWhat> waf works like so
09:22:06 <DrWhat> molicius client -> Waf validation -> error page
09:22:11 <ryan> u wot m8
09:22:28 <DrWhat> valid client -> Waf validation -> valid page
09:22:47 <ryan> DrWhat: you're dumb
09:23:24 <ryan> IR601: WAF is generally a webserver plugin that monitors requests, the request it deems malicious it flags/blocks/whatever
09:24:02 <ryan> it's generally just between the webserver and the php interpreter
09:24:28 <IR601> i see
09:24:52 <IR601> aw theres no mod security for lighttpd?
09:25:07 <ryan> Do you need one?
09:25:18 <ryan> If your code is even somewhat decent, wafs are going to do you more harm than good
09:26:25 <IR601> well i have a mobile endpoint for a 2fa auth server
09:26:47 <DrWhat> does have to be a mod for the HTTPd its self
09:26:49 <IR601> that is the only thing looking outside the rest of the auth is done over openvpn
09:26:53 <DrWhat> can be a PHP class
09:27:02 <DrWhat> or a 3rd party deamon
09:27:11 <DrWhat> Dont use javascript
09:27:26 <ryan> IR601: well then there's only a little amount of code for you to audit
09:28:07 <IR601> its not something i want to proactivly monitor
09:28:34 <ryan> But if one has think about firewalls that block non DoS traffic patterns, they seriously need to re-do their infrastructure
09:28:52 <IR601> yeah
09:29:09 <IR601> i dont know how vun it is anyway
09:29:13 <IR601> or if its even worth doing it
09:29:18 <ryan> Going further than this packet from this ip wont be able to go to that port because this ip isn't whitelisted, should be pointless
09:29:40 <ryan> If it's something obscure, mod_security probably won't do anything anyways
09:29:47 <IR601> lol yeah
09:29:53 <IR601> its a soap request
09:29:54 <DrWhat> best thing is to use a php class
09:30:21 <DrWhat> one that can detect molicious $_get's and $_posts
09:30:24 <ryan> No it's not, that'll cause excessive amounts of load and have fun reimplementing mod_security in php
09:30:26 <DrWhat> and log the infomation of the user
09:30:36 <DrWhat> then you decide what to do
09:30:40 <ryan> Define a malicious GET?
09:30:41 <ryan> Define a malicious POST?
09:30:41 <DrWhat> there nothing much you can do
09:30:47 <DrWhat> except ban them
09:32:08 <ryan> there's also the viable solution
09:32:10 <ryan> of doing nothing
09:32:33 <ryan> If you aren't doing something stupid, then that solution would be the best
09:34:44 <DrWhat> 02/05/2013 15:40:01 2436694073 System over temperature
09:34:48 <DrWhat> Shit bro
09:34:54 <DrWhat> My router is overheating
09:35:02 <DrWhat> and its keeps killing my connections
09:35:04 <DrWhat> :s
09:35:09 <DrWhat> Damn summer weather
09:35:36 <ryan> Put a fan on it?
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09:46:37 <DrWhat> joepie91 whats wrong with bitcoin talk
09:51:10 <IR601> hrm
09:51:16 <IR601> ive hidden it behind lighttpd
09:51:18 <IR601> that will do
09:52:57 <IR601> erry thing is 403
09:53:00 <IR601> :D
10:44:18 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:01] Accepted 04acf1cd Diff 54/31 GPU 0
10:44:19 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:01] Accepted 017128f5 Diff 177/31 GPU 0
10:44:19 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:01] Accepted 06efcf70 Diff 36/31 GPU 0
10:44:19 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:10] Accepted 05b16498 Diff 44/31 GPU 0
10:44:19 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:10] Accepted 0464757f Diff 58/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:13] Accepted 05abfbe5 Diff 45/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:13] Accepted 05392102 Diff 49/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:23] Accepted 007b39c0 Diff 531/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:26] Accepted 02c91aad Diff 91/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:28] Accepted 060f6deb Diff 42/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:33] Accepted 06fa37d3 Diff 36/31 GPU 0
10:44:20 <DrWhat> [2013-05-03 11:43:39] Accepted 053d9413 Diff 48/31 GPU 0
10:44:41 <DrWhat> yeah im send a valid hash every few seconds :D
10:44:54 <DrWhat> at 300khash/s
10:46:06 <DrWhat> i win
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14:18:49 <DrWhat> Time status : [Up time: 1w 6d 1h 13m 23s] × [mIRC up time: 3d 21h 41m 11s] × [On-line time: 3d 21h 40m 42s] × [Idle time: 3h 32m 43s] × [Local time: 15:18:39] × [Date: 03/05/2013]
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16:04:00 <AnonGhOsT> ?
16:10:56 <AnonGhOsT> does anyone knows how to exploit process hacker by injecting .exe into exixsting thread
16:11:00 <AnonGhOsT> ?
16:14:49 <MK_FG> Teh topic
16:14:49 <AnonGhOsT> somebody talk to me pls
16:16:03 <AnonGhOsT> am thinking of somethig using PROCESS HACKER ? is it posible that i inject .exe into an existing path on the system ?
16:18:46 <joepie91> AnonGhOsT: READ THE GODDAMN TOPIC THAT YOU WERE JUST TOLD TO READ
16:18:53 <joepie91> jesus christ
16:19:12 <joepie91> but noooooo, let's ignore the other guy talking
16:19:18 <joepie91> because they didn't give an answer that fit into the desired format
16:31:18 <AnonGhOsT> ok
16:31:47 <AnonGhOsT> which topic ?
16:31:50 <AnonGhOsT> tell me pls
16:35:44 <AnonGhOsT> talk pls
16:39:49 <AnonGhOsT> somebody talk
16:41:02 <ryan> hey
16:41:03 <ryan> AnonGhOsT:
16:41:06 <ryan> get a gun
16:41:09 <ryan> shoot yourself in the head
16:41:11 <ryan> thx
16:42:45 <joepie91> I am getting so tired of these idiots
16:43:30 <ryan> you could automatically gline people who have lots of upper- and lowercase letters in their names
16:43:41 <MK_FG> Hey!
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16:44:17 <MK_FG> Actually, I've no idea why I have it uppercased...
16:44:25 <ryan> yes but
16:44:27 <joepie91> well, what does mk_fg stand for? :P
16:44:30 <ryan> there's no lowercase letters
16:44:32 <ryan> in your name
16:44:41 <ryan> I were referring to mixing them
16:44:48 <ryan> like in AnonGhOsT
16:44:53 <MK_FG> mk is the initials and fg the acronym for my old nick
16:44:56 <ryan> also banning people with anon in their names would be a start
16:45:14 <MK_FG> One day I'll be just mk!
16:45:23 <MK_FG> ...maybe
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16:45:44 <MK_FG> Anyway, maybe topic is missing in some webchat interface or something?
16:45:52 <MK_FG> Or truncated
16:45:55 <ryan> I doubt it
16:45:56 <ryan> people are just retarded
16:46:08 <MK_FG> You're way too evil
16:46:10 <joepie91> MK_FG: the topic is there, don't worry about that
16:46:18 <joepie91> the problem isn't technical of nature
16:46:24 <joepie91> the problem is the attitude that these people have
16:46:29 <joepie91> barging in somewhere, making assumptions
16:46:36 <joepie91> not taking the time to look around what it actually is
16:46:46 <joepie91> not taking the time to await conversation to get an idea of the atmosphere
16:47:06 <joepie91> it's the virtual equivalent of walking up to a group of friends in a bar, and starting to talk really loud while you don't know them, haven't observed them, and haven't even made an effort to introduce yourself
16:47:06 <MK_FG> Yeah, kids these days...
16:47:17 <joepie91> basically barging in on their conversation (or silence)
16:47:24 <joepie91> it's very annoying, rude, and unnecessary
16:47:29 <joepie91> and especially on IRC it's very easy to avoid
16:47:43 <joepie91> because there's a damn topic telling you what you need to know, persistently visible at the top of the page
16:47:49 <joepie91> if you take the time to look at it
16:47:57 <ryan> What annoys me the most is
16:48:00 <ryan> people that join ircs
16:48:05 <ryan> and think there's always ongoing discussions
16:48:12 <joepie91> heh, yes
16:48:15 <ryan> and are like HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK GUYS STOP IGNORING ME
16:48:16 <ryan> ANYONE?
16:48:18 <ryan> PLEASE
16:48:19 <ryan> HELP ME
16:48:19 <joepie91> "why is noone talking? are these all bots?"
16:48:25 <joepie91> most common heard thing in #anonnews
16:48:38 <joepie91> and sure, there's probably a fair amount of logbots
16:48:40 <joepie91> but really
16:48:45 <ryan> oh yeah, also people who kick for idling.
16:48:47 <joepie91> no, that noone is talking doesn't mean that they're all bots
16:48:49 <ryan> but that's not really an issue here
16:48:49 <MK_FG> Hm, guess I haven't being exposed to these ircs, lurking on freenode and oftc
16:48:52 <joepie91> (why would they be there if noone talks?)
16:48:59 <joepie91> MK_FG: freenode isn't really IRC in more than one way
16:49:23 <joepie91> the general atmosphere and public is very different, and even their ircd supposedly strongly deviates from the IRC standard
16:49:56 <joepie91> ryan: I don't get the kick-the-idlers thing either
16:50:03 <joepie91> there's no point to it
16:50:03 <MK_FG> Yeah, maybe not *that* irc
16:50:17 <joepie91> they don't consume any noticeable amount of resources, and the risk of logging really isn't any higher than when people aren't idle
16:50:27 <joepie91> (a smart logger keeps talking)
16:50:57 <ryan> a smart logger would just switch to another proxy and rejoin
16:51:06 <ryan> I have a bot that does it on an irc I idle
16:51:16 <ryan> it's been there for what
16:51:18 <ryan> an year?
16:51:34 <ryan> hell, we even gave it ops because all it does it sit there sirently and look scary
16:51:51 <joepie91> ;p;
16:51:53 <joepie91> lol *
16:52:04 <MK_FG> "Scarecrow bot"
16:52:12 <ryan> no idea what's it supposed to do
16:52:31 <joepie91> logging of some sort, probably
16:52:34 <joepie91> either conversation, or users
16:52:48 <joepie91> or both
16:52:49 <ryan> Yeah
16:52:59 <ryan> It's probably just someone trolling though
16:52:59 * joepie91 throws shit at Chrome
16:53:02 <joepie91> heh
16:53:38 <joepie91> jesus christ Chrome, stop freezing every time I rightclick a selection
16:53:49 <ryan> Never experienced that
16:53:52 <ryan> recompile?
16:53:56 <MK_FG> Speaking of bots, is there any good use for err bot? https://github.com/gbin/err
16:54:01 <joepie91> it's from the official Google package
16:54:07 <ryan> reinstall
16:54:16 <joepie91> actually, I upgraded to beta
16:54:20 <joepie91> because the stable version did it randomly
16:54:26 <joepie91> at least beta only does it when rightclicking a selection
16:54:37 <MK_FG> Looks nice and developed, been wanting to check it out for a while, but no idea what's available in plugins' rep there...
16:54:47 <joepie91> seems like reinstalling doesn't do terribly much
16:54:50 <ryan> MK_FG: After realizing how much more you can do when your bot is masquerading as an IRC server, I wouldn't use that
16:55:16 <ryan> Seems like some issue in your end
16:55:18 <ryan> plugins?
16:55:38 <joepie91> disabled all extensions and plugins, still happened
16:55:43 <DrWhat> [5:45:34pm] (&MK_FG) Anyway, maybe topic is missing in some webchat interface or something?
16:55:51 <DrWhat> the topic shows as soon as you join the chennel
16:56:15 <joepie91> that, too
16:56:20 <joepie91> forgot about that actually
16:56:24 <DrWhat> :3
16:56:27 <DrWhat> again
16:56:30 <DrWhat> i come in usful :)
16:56:34 <MK_FG> Hmm, yeah, by "masquerading as an IRC server" you probably mean znc, gotta check what it learned to do these days too...
17:01:31 <joepie91> ryan, https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?can=5&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Iteration%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified&groupby=&sort=&id=236633
17:03:08 <ryan> interesting
17:03:26 <ryan> try compiling from source?
17:03:31 <ryan> it's opensuse after all
17:04:22 <joepie91> I'd... rather not compile from source :P
17:04:28 <joepie91> and I've generally had very good experiences with opensuse, actually
17:04:34 <joepie91> in terms of just-works-iness
17:04:38 <joepie91> (is that a word?)
17:14:41 <ryan> lol
17:17:12 <ElectRo`> "just works"
17:18:44 <ryan> appleish
17:19:10 <ElectRo`> revolustionary not evolutionary
17:20:04 <DrWhat> "working condition"
17:21:24 <ElectRo`> "how hackish can it get"
17:22:43 <MK_FG> "usability"?
17:26:39 <ryan> "It hasn't crashed yet"
17:26:44 <DrWhat> "stability"
17:36:11 <joepie91> "apostrophes"
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18:07:07 <monod> I'm becoming a freaking physiotherapist, guys
18:07:13 <monod> really cool
18:07:29 <monod> autodiagnosing my shoulder pains :D
18:10:39 <joepie91> ohai
18:10:59 <joepie91> monod; neck-supporting memory foam pillows are magic
18:11:30 <monod> wow, extra-long name :D sounds cool
18:11:45 <monod> "memory foam" :D
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18:22:44 <joepie91> monod: I'll find an image in a moment, 1 sec
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18:23:49 <monod> oh, right joepie91
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18:26:52 <joepie91> monod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vARYtZyGEo
18:27:02 <joepie91> I bought a new one two days ago or so
18:27:28 <joepie91> had been waiting for the Lidl to sell them again for 6 years or so (my previous one from the Lidl didn't survive a chimney fire)
18:27:38 <joepie91> used a less good one from a discount store in the meantime
18:27:41 <joepie91> but these things are magic
18:27:52 <joepie91> you lay down on them, and all your back pain and shoulder pain is just poof, gone
18:28:08 <joepie91> (and if you know where to look, they're fairly cheap - I got the one I have now for 10 euro)
18:28:30 <joepie91> and they're really really comfortable
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20:01:23 <monod> back again
20:01:24 <monod> was afk :D
20:01:31 <monod> nice one joepie!
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20:32:59 <Sabit> hihi joepie
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20:55:07 <zxcvbnm> do my big airplanes keep blowing up or something
20:55:12 <zxcvbnm> they've disappeared twice!
20:55:46 <zxcvbnm> and i spent like 2 million euro on those
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20:58:14 <zxcvbnm> bah i'm terrible at this game! I've learned a lot, need a re do now :P
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21:18:04 <joepie91> heh
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