Cryto! 31 March 2013

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16:46:52 <joepie91>
16:46:57 <joepie91> the irony, I don't even
16:54:33 <joepie91>
16:54:36 <joepie91> these guys are a joke
16:54:41 <joepie91> rofl
16:54:52 <joepie91> "It costs us money every day to run servers to perform the backups, for databases to store the website and file information, and for extremely redundant storage to keep your data safe. Our free users have grown at a very fast rate and at this point, the cost of providing this service for our free user base can no longer be subsidized by our paid users."
16:54:56 <joepie91> meaning that either:
16:55:16 lady-3jane (lady3jane@lady-3jane.users.cryto) has joined #crytocc
16:55:17 <joepie91> 1. you are not getting any new paid users, and your service isn't that much of a success as you'd like people to believe
16:55:23 <joepie91> 2. their business plan was a fucking mess from the start
16:55:31 <joepie91> considering free signups were closed quite a while ago
16:55:36 <joepie91> and these free users were grandfathered
16:55:38 <joepie91> ohai lady-3jane,
16:55:41 <joepie91> loggy, pointer?
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16:55:44 <joepie91> you'll find this interesting
16:59:31 <lady-3jane> haha
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17:05:36 <MK_FG> They certainly could've chosen a better day for such announcement than world's backup day
17:06:10 <lady-3jane> ah ha ha ha
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17:07:09 <MK_FG> \o/ \o/
17:09:26 <MK_FG> Hm, also looking at their interfaces, I'd think github or bitbucket private repos make them redundant
17:18:43 <joepie91> MK_FG:
17:20:22 <MK_FG> Heh, wow
17:21:46 <MK_FG> How these people still didn't trademark all permutations of english words is beyond me
17:22:47 <lady-3jane> here we go, let's try this
17:23:15 <lady-3jane> I dunno why, but chrome26 has become unusable. I can't figure out if it's because my disk is failing or if they made a change where chrome is now much more disk bound than it used to be
17:24:35 <lady-3jane> also jesus fucking christ is helvetica sexy
17:25:09 <MK_FG> jesus.. fucking.. christ?
17:25:21 <lady-3jane> you betcha
17:25:52 <lady-3jane> you being sarcastic or have you never heard that expression before?
17:26:24 <MK_FG> Certainly seen it
17:27:31 <lady-3jane> yeah okay
17:27:48 * lady-3jane runs chrome in incognito so that it works
17:28:35 <lady-3jane> The main thing I'm unhappy about in ubuntu is that it's written like a desktop OS. It expects to have disk access.
17:28:48 <lady-3jane> That's not the unix way, so much
17:29:25 <lady-3jane> everything but the gui will just chillax till it gets data, but the gui freezes or freaks out
17:29:25 <lady-3jane> e.e
17:30:44 <MK_FG> I blame poor (and/or late) interfaces for async-io in kernel
17:31:07 <lady-3jane> yeah that doesn't help
17:31:15 <lady-3jane> but none of the cli apps have any issue waiting
17:31:24 <lady-3jane> and even some of the gui apps are awesome with it
17:31:44 <lady-3jane> but unity and compiz and such? they just shit a brick if they can't hit the disk
17:31:52 <lady-3jane> I'm unsure as to why they NEED to hit the disk
17:31:55 <lady-3jane> that's what bothers me
17:32:49 <lady-3jane> I have an old slow possibly failing main disk and so touching the disk is bad
17:33:02 <lady-3jane> and I have everything cache as heavily as possible to avoid disk reads and writes
17:33:59 <lady-3jane> which, it turns out, seems to be an extremely good policy everywhere
17:34:37 <lady-3jane> I did that to my server too (turning on log write caching) and instantly we can shit files 10x faster
17:35:02 <MK_FG> Maybe try some usb distro? I've used slax in the far past and it worked nice with explicit snapshotting of data when you need to go off
17:35:08 <lady-3jane> probably faster than that, but it's on a 3mbit link so I saturate before I hit server problems
17:35:30 <lady-3jane> yeah slax was nice
17:36:45 <lady-3jane> I mean really I need to just get a new disk and try building a freebsd desktop from scratch
17:36:57 <lady-3jane> that's what I *should* do
17:37:13 <lady-3jane> but disks require money which I don't have
17:37:35 <MK_FG> Yeah, stupid money
17:40:14 <lady-3jane> Yeah mostly I just want someone to buy me a tb or 2tb drive
17:40:26 <lady-3jane> that would fix 90% of my current impasses
17:41:05 <lady-3jane> if 2tb, I'd dualboot linux and windows and not worry about it, but 1tb'd be freebsd+zfs <3<3
17:42:54 <MK_FG> Hm, that and the day actually reminds me that I wanted to setup dm-verity on my linuxes for a while
17:43:12 <MK_FG> zfs with it's checksums is indeed damn nice
17:43:37 <joepie91> lady-3jane: consider using The Great Suspender
17:43:41 <joepie91> chrome extension that auto-suspends unused tabs
17:43:45 <joepie91> works extremely well here
17:43:53 <joepie91> I've had zero slowdowns since installing it
17:43:54 <joepie91> :P
17:46:50 <lady-3jane> yes I was using it, I had to stop because it's buggy
17:47:45 <lady-3jane> I'd get into redirect loops trying to bring thepages out of suspend
17:47:57 <lady-3jane> it was dumb
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17:54:17 <joepie91> huh, I haven't had that issue
17:57:23 <lady-3jane> I know
17:57:25 <lady-3jane> most don't
17:57:39 <lady-3jane> I have a huge number of problems most people don't because I use things in really weird ways
17:58:21 <lady-3jane> I've always had problems loading pages in chrome, and I decided it was because the sequence of on-load triggers didn't get activated correctly if the page wasn't actually visible to the user
17:58:40 <lady-3jane> I'm not sure why that would matter, but It seems to
18:00:58 <lady-3jane> I really need to try freebsd as a desktop os
18:01:08 <lady-3jane> I'm willing to bet most of my problems would be alleviated
18:01:26 <lady-3jane> I like freebsd because nothing is automatic
18:01:31 <lady-3jane> and automatic is what causes problems for me
18:03:39 <MK_FG> You'll probably end up using same desktop env as some linux though
18:06:14 <MK_FG> Not as bloated as ubuntu might have out of the box, I guess
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18:17:04 <lady-3jane> oh for sure
18:18:12 <lady-3jane> probably some combination of i3 and e17
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18:21:46 <lady-3jane> joepie91:) ^
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19:13:57 <joepie91> ...
19:14:07 <joepie91> looks like something kasploded?
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19:14:52 <joepie91> yeah, guess what server didn't auto-relink
19:14:53 <joepie91> as usual
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19:40:40 <MK_FG> And I see it's a Glorious Chaos Day already
19:43:20 <MK_FG> Would be awesome if people would spread goofy april-1 stuff randomly over the year
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20:01:43 <joepie91> ohai iceTwy !
20:01:51 <iceTwy> ohai!
20:01:59 <iceTwy> long time I haven't spoken in this chan
20:01:59 <iceTwy> ;o
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22:53:45 <x> mama :3
22:55:21 <mama> x <3
22:55:23 <mama> :D
22:55:45 <x> hai <3
22:55:58 <mama> x I am working to gather ppl for #opbacon, i wish you join us
22:56:15 <x> okies :3
22:56:22 <mama> it is in
22:56:52 <x> dont mind me if I go afk unexpectedly, been on digikey all day lol
22:56:58 <x> :p
22:57:38 <mama> x we are only lurking for now, preparing the op and gathering ppl
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22:57:54 <x> okies
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23:10:12 <mama> sorry joepie91 :s
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