Cryto! 3 March 2013
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01:26:18 <Art> Hello joepie91
01:28:12 <Art> Joepie, if the IRC net splits and then nickserv is broken, how is this place suppose to be secure. Anyone can impersonate anyone. The result for IRC bots is even more scary since most bots are designed to take commands for a certain user.
01:50:58 <joepie91> <Art>Joepie, if the IRC net splits and then nickserv is broken, how is this place suppose to be secure. Anyone can impersonate anyone. The result for IRC bots is even more scary since most bots are designed to take commands for a certain user.
01:51:00 <joepie91> it isn't
01:51:05 <joepie91> IRC is insecure, period
01:51:35 <joepie91> and if your bot relies on a nickname to auth someone, it wasn't very secure to begin with either..
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02:30:29 <lady-3jane> damn man
02:30:36 <lady-3jane> way too much work is going into this tiny fucking bit of code
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02:45:58 <joepie91> lady-3jane: hm?
02:46:07 <lady-3jane> I'm just
02:46:10 <lady-3jane> ...
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02:46:33 <lady-3jane> I'm making a wholly separate extension onto my readable css for... I guess columns? sorta.
02:47:18 <lady-3jane> the content goes left and the freed space to the right is filled with a column (up to 4) of boxes
02:48:05 <lady-3jane> so I guess I'm making a portion of bootstrap from scratch? :D
02:48:43 <joepie91> that's what it sounds like
02:48:43 <joepie91> :P
02:49:40 <lady-3jane> yeah...
02:49:56 <lady-3jane> and it scales all the way up to the newest macbook pro with 2880 pixel wide screen
02:50:05 <lady-3jane> >_>
02:50:34 <lady-3jane> I need to double check ofc, but if they fullscreen the browser on that computer they *should* get 4 columns
02:51:03 <lady-3jane> I'm undershooting that pixel count a bit to account for things like the scrollbar and chrome
02:51:04 <lady-3jane> :>
02:52:27 <lady-3jane> but yeah
02:52:47 <lady-3jane> It also should work on everything from dumbphones up through that computer
02:52:59 <lady-3jane> I'm being a pain in the ass
02:53:00 <lady-3jane> :D
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03:56:44 <AnonyOps[mobile]> Ohai
06:01:06 <joepie91> https://crypton.io/
06:01:14 <joepie91> Crypton is a framework for building cryptographically secure cloud applications. Such applications offer meaningful privacy assurance to end users because the servers running the application cannot read the data created and stored by the application.
06:01:15 <joepie91> Using Crypton, developers can for the first time easily build feature rich multi user collaborative applications that offer total privacy and security "out of the box." Crypton transparently does all the hard parts of cryptography behind the scenes. This allows developers to focus on domain specific challenges.
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06:25:28 <MK_FG> It's about time for crypto renaissance!
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08:17:48 <lady-3jane> http://youtu.be/rG71yD8UUbE
08:28:56 <Divinite> wh1t3r4bb1t: HELLO
08:29:39 <Divinite> Is FTP down?
08:34:00 <joepie91> so
08:34:06 <joepie91> the chicagovps solusvm database is out in the wild
08:34:15 <joepie91> chicagovps has not issued an advisory
08:34:26 <joepie91> and questions as to when that will happen are conveniently avoided/ignored
08:34:40 <joepie91> in other news, servercrate/roberthost just had all their nodes wiped
08:34:45 <lady-3jane> "If we don't say anything, they can't know!"
08:34:54 <joepie91> and the owner (?) is unable to tell me whether they are using keypair auth now for the nodes
08:34:57 <joepie91> (they were using password auth before)
08:35:03 <joepie91> I've been trying to get an answer out of him for like 30 minutes now
08:35:09 <joepie91> and he keeps dancing around it saying he doesn't know
08:35:15 <joepie91> and saying "the sysadmin is working on it"
08:35:23 <joepie91> apparently not getting the idea to check up and try to figure out what's going on
08:35:26 <joepie91> despite it being his business
08:35:29 <joepie91> what the fuck is wrong with people
08:35:37 <lady-3jane> is the root password in the wild? I'll log in and fix it for him.
08:36:10 <joepie91> unsure
08:36:13 <lady-3jane> he'd need an auth key though I suppose
08:36:14 <lady-3jane> lol
08:36:23 <joepie91> but according to owner (?), they are "restoring backups first"
08:36:33 <joepie91> and "the sysadmin is working on it"
08:36:34 <lady-3jane> ugh
08:36:36 <lady-3jane> secure boxes first
08:36:37 <lady-3jane> always
08:36:39 <joepie91> exactly
08:36:41 <joepie91> let me give some more entertainment quotes
08:36:43 <joepie91> entertaining *
08:36:51 <lady-3jane> backups are irrelevant if they get hacked as soon as they come online
08:36:51 <Divinite> lolwhat
08:36:53 <lady-3jane> :|
08:37:04 <Divinite> What are you babbling about?
08:37:10 <Divinite> LOL
08:37:13 <lady-3jane> you can read
08:37:18 <Divinite> Sure can
08:37:23 <joepie91> <joepie91>RobertClarke: if you cannot explain right now in a few sentences the key measures you are taking to secure your shit
08:37:23 <joepie91> <joepie91>you have a problem that is MUCH bigger
08:37:23 <joepie91> <joepie91>than your servers getting owned
08:37:23 <joepie91> <joepie91>being that you have no idae what you're doing
08:37:23 <joepie91> <RobertClarke>This guy does security work for the government, I'm not worried about it.
08:37:25 <lady-3jane> good good
08:37:41 <lady-3jane> eheh
08:37:48 <lady-3jane> credibility: ZERO
08:38:05 <Divinite> Ok then.. I still have no idea what you are talking about.
08:38:10 <lady-3jane> my mom works for the govt! she can surf email, she must be a leet sysadmin though
08:38:17 <joepie91> <RobertClarke>joepie91, I have a feeling there's going to be no right answer to this question, you'll find some other way to bash me, thus I will not be communicating with you for the remainder of the night. Interpret this however you wish, but the real reason is that I don't want to deal with your shit tonight.
08:38:19 <Divinite> LOLOLOL
08:38:38 <joepie91> (meanwhile avoiding the exact same questions from everyone else in the channel)
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08:52:01 <joepie91> well damnit
08:52:05 <joepie91> didn't really give me time to respond
08:52:05 <joepie91> :(
09:00:56 <joepie91> okay, redonate cronjob set up
09:32:07 <joepie91> http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/announcing-redonate-recurring-contributions-done-right/
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15:51:33 <lady-3jane> joepie91_:) :D
15:52:09 <joepie91_> bla
15:52:10 <joepie91_> hai :P
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15:52:20 <joepie91_> ah, there is main pie
15:52:21 <lady-3jane> I have awakened! :D
15:52:25 <joepie91_> you have?
15:52:28 <lady-3jane> yes
15:52:28 <joepie91_> so has redonate
15:52:29 <joepie91_> :P
15:52:33 <joepie91_> and I am about to zzz
15:52:33 <joepie91_> but
15:52:40 <lady-3jane> and I compiled kernel 3.8+ last night while I slept
15:52:52 <joepie91_> http://joepie91.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/announcing-redonate-recurring-contributions-done-right/
15:52:54 <joepie91_> @ lady-3jane
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15:55:35 <lady-3jane> awh services be down
15:56:22 <joepie91> oops
15:56:23 <joepie91> sec
15:56:43 <joepie91> still lots of packetloss to hub
15:56:43 <joepie91> :/
15:56:49 <joepie91> I really think I have to move main hub
15:56:50 <lady-3jane> move hub?
15:56:55 <lady-3jane> haha
15:56:57 <joepie91> well yes, but I don't like doing so
15:57:18 <joepie91> it means getting another VPS, reconfiguring all leafs, etc etc etc
15:57:26 * lady-3jane nods
15:57:42 <lady-3jane> If I knew the status on our fancy server I'd offer it
15:57:58 <lady-3jane> buuut zach's moving right now and so I don't have access and thus can't give you a shell haha
15:58:21 <lady-3jane> or a vps I guess
15:58:28 <lady-3jane> since technically that's what we do
15:58:28 <lady-3jane> haha
15:59:27 <joepie91> :P
16:00:06 <lady-3jane> could probably spare like 256m or so, since none of our customers buy less than 4g
16:02:15 <joepie91> even 128M would be plenty
16:02:16 <joepie91> well
16:02:21 <joepie91> maybe I'd need 196 to compile
16:08:48 <lady-3jane> oh yeah, for the ircd ha
16:09:03 <lady-3jane> does it really use that much ram? hulking behemoth lol
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16:15:23 <joepie91> for compilin yes
16:15:24 <joepie91> :P
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19:33:19 <zest> anybody know why I can't iterate through Stack of Lists ??
19:39:46 <flyingpenis> probably wanna drop some code
19:39:54 <flyingpenis> pastebin that shit
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23:00:27 <zest> I've got this bitch ...
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